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I highly doubt lufan is going to flip town at this point, I didn't like the way Wis was pushing the PT thing (as i mentioned to him, it could also be neighbors or masons), but I agreed because of the lurking, the reads and the beetlejuicing, this was cemented with him deciding to "just have fun" by self-voting and trolling until lynch instead of fighting off his lynch and/or scumhunting.
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In post 819, SXTLHGaiden wrote:i totes would have believed "Mayu, 1-shot give beads, they lower your darkness by 20%"
Wouldn't that be yuka?
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In post 826, Taly wrote:Also, in skimming the thread, I can already see a few Lufan slips... About his knowledge, being a noobie, and overall him sacrificing himself for a lynch... Which I'm not entirely understanding. If anything, I think a lufan PL soon my be beneficial for all of our darkness levels... And if Lufans PR is remotely truthful, then it may be likely a scum role.
What, i'm trying to understand what you're going with here, but i don't understand. Also what do you mean with the last part?
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In post 833, Taly wrote:>I also said that his PR claim, seemed to more likely be scum to me. It just didn't sound very realistic for town to be able to lower their darkness if they decided to lynch their own alignment person.
Huh, he never stated votes on him would lower people's darkening, he stated that targeting him would, i assumed that'd be night actions
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tbh i also got cold feet, but not due to anything lufan has posted. Due to 803 - it seems like Zelink knows lufan is flipping town and is setting up a discredit on me so that people dont listen to me and lynch him (I'm one of the very few people who think he is scum)
Regardless, with all those votes on lufan it would be stupid to lynch anyone else now because of the darkening mechanic, so it's him we're lynching.
Just don't fucking let zelink live tomorrow, especially if lufan is town.
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In post 840, Ankamius wrote:In post 825, White Narcissus wrote:Also i am kinda interested in what Ankamius thinks of lufan's claim.
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I think it's non-indicative. It can easily be a scum ability that is there to 'look' town or a scum fakeclaim that can be imitated by what they have.
So ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Do you remember sephibro's role in Higurashi.
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In post 842, lufan131 wrote:Nooo... How'd I get so voted by following instructions? lol....
What
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In post 848, Ankamius wrote:I do. How is it relevant, exactly?
Eh i've been comparing Higurashi roles with here since it has a similar mechanic, since his role was similar to lufan's (or at least his passive), I was wondering if you thought it'd be possible for him to have that kind of role here
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In post 851, Ankamius wrote:I'd be pretty disappointed in pieguy if there wasn'tsomekind of way for the players to alter darkness level by themselves, especially since it's more severe in this case with it passively going up.
Ah alright, thanks, that was part of the doubt i had
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In post 881, Mikazuki wrote:Hell yeah!!! I really must stop doubting really strong gut feelings about situations, looks like I'm actually right occasionally
One dead already? So scum do have the ability to increase darkness enough to kill in one night?
My theory of Sachiko allowing this to be possible is increasing more and more
I'd also like a flavor claim from Nachodra.
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In post 920, notscience wrote:It also fits the theme of the game
Not enough blood / multilation / ripped body parts
Also i should go to sleep instead of acting on my own, i really need to start talking with Wis wrt reads because there are some we are complete opposites on atm.
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One last thing tho You say:
In post 913, ZeL1nK2 wrote:It has to do with my lack of town read on Loki and my constant attempts at having a conversation with him to properly sort him.
In post 917, ZeL1nK2 wrote:You're still confusing exactly what was going on and why I might not have wanted to give Loki a roadmap.
If that is true then:
In post 913, ZeL1nK2 wrote:Loki probably already knows, which is why he didn't particularly care I was keeping my reads close to my chest. Or if he didn't yesterday, he should be able to tell what I've been doing from my first post today.
Doesn't that tell you that whatever result you're going to get isn't going to be what you want because he "probably" knows what you're doing?
Also the way you've been treating him doesnt sound like someone you don't know the alignment of, and even less someone you're scumreading...
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hai
Like Mika, lufan flipping scum has me much less confident on zelink being scum. I was convinced lufan was flipping town with Zelink having WK'd him that bad.
I disagree that Zelink's interactions with Nacho mean they are both scum or whatever. If Zelink truly wanted to wait for Nacho to tell him what to do, it wouldn't be so open and blatant - "I won't give reads until I talk with Loki". Sakura seems to not like Nacho much, but I still feel I've mostly seen town-Nacho this game.
The one I still think is scum is Shadowcat. Her Zymf push was terrible, her hop on lufan felt like bussing.
I also have no idea why scum killed Taly of all people.
@Mika, Ank is town. You were weird in expressing yourself talking about policy and stuff so you made him suspicious, that's all.
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What's terrible about her Zymf push is the fixation on the "leader" thing. I felt she wanted to push it as a scumslip type of thing without outright stating so. It striked me as a "I found a pushable thing" moment.
Nacho has mostly felt like town-Nacho and I liked his Gaiden and Shadowcat pushes.
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Also this
In post 298, Shadowcat wrote:I have mild scum reads on Zel, and Thor and Loki.
She never explained these reads or tried to further explore them, despite me asking her to.
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In post 963, Shadowcat wrote:Interactions D1 felt weird, awkward and forced. Like scum trying to hide a secret. Also asking notscience what his darkness level felt off too.
This is too shallow. Zelink does not hide the fact he's being cryptic for his own reasons, so scumreading him for that feels fake.
What's wrong about asking for darkness levels?
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url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6734219#p6734219]post 963[/url], Shadowcat wrote:They feel like their playing to their scum meta.
Waiting for elaboration on this. I want specific posts and why they indicate scum Nacho over town Nacho.
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In post 986, Mikazuki wrote:My definition is the one in the wiki
Wiki wrote:Most commonly, it describes the lynch of a playerwho is not found to be particularly scummy,
Ummm
In post 951, Mikazuki wrote:I agree with the newbie player thing, that was why I was so reluctant to say I was scum reading him despite being quite convinced that the PT thing was exactly what it looked like.
As for the reasoning being bad, the PT thing was enough to make me think that he was likely to flip scum. I mentioned before that he actually said that he was 'sent' there (which everyone ignored) which didn't make sense as a bad word choice, it was an outright slip.
Ummm
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In post 1001, Sakura Hana wrote:I don't even remember who Alina is, but i'm interested in this line of questioning, I suspect however that Mika's probably a shiny object since Wis has a townread there
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In post 986, Mikazuki wrote:My definition is the one in the wiki
No, it's not. The wiki definition (and the proper definition that I suppose Ank has in mind too) is a lynch of a player who plays badly and will be harmful to keep aroundregardless of alignment. In simpler terms, it's a "We don't like you, we don't care if you are scum, bye bye" lynch.
This was obviously not the case with lufan. Lufan was scummy and was caught in a situation that indicated scum. Absolutely nothing to do with policy.
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In post 989, Shadowcat wrote:He ignored the slip of whoever we lynched D1 and tried pushing us instead.
No, he didnt? He just didnt consider it a slip but he wasnt against lynching lufan - he was on the wagon. I can even see why he would want to lynch you - if the slip didn't exist, you are who I would be voting too.
How is this indicative of scum-Nacho?
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In post 1019, Shadowcat wrote:Trust me there's no way you'd get a wagon on me, nevermind a lynch on me.
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I hate it when people say things like this, specially when they are being suspected
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In post 1019, Shadowcat wrote:Trust me there's no way you'd get a wagon on me, nevermind a lynch on me.
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trust me, it's going to happen today
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In post 1025, Shadowcat wrote:Oh I learned it from Cabd~
So I take it you learned how to play scum then?
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In post 1027, Shadowcat wrote:Nope! I'm still really shitty as both alignments, but I been steering as a better scum player lately ^^
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Oh, i'm just saying, that's what cabd says when he's scum and being suspected!, but good to know that you're learning his scum tactics and becoming a better scum player then!
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In post 1029, SXTLHGaiden wrote:we should totes wagon someone
I vote we start here
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In post 1030, Shadowcat wrote:when you clearly know you are wrong
give me a reason to think im wrong then
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In post 1037, Shadowcat wrote:No she's the levelheaded one of the two of you.
Really now, me = level headed?
Either you forgot all about me or you're making shit up at this point.
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I want to see you as town, but i can't, your hydra partner got asked a gazillion times to explain her scumreads on Nachodra and Zelink and never did, You only explain those now but it's based on the way Nacho behaved wrt lufan, which happened way after your hydra partner expressed a scumread on Nachodra.
In post 989, Shadowcat wrote:His pushes. He ignored the slip of whoever we lynched D1 and tried pushing us instead.
The slip was the weakest argument imo, i also had a scumread on your slot at the time (And still do), so why shouldn't nacho have had one?
In post 817, Shadowcat wrote:In post 765, lufan131 wrote:OK. I'm Mayu, and if you target me, you lose 20% darkness. That's all the role is.
Everyone that targets you? That seems too over-powered to be true.
Vote: lufan
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And your vote on lufan only seems related to your hydra partner not liking the claim.
If any busing was happening it's more likely to be from you.
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In post 1041, Shadowcat wrote:But praytell what push other than Nacho and Zel have been bad? You just think they are bad because you disagree with them.
Zymf, like I've said. Mind you, when I talk about you I mean you AND Huntress. My scumread on you is mostly based on Huntress's actions.
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In post 1043, Shadowcat wrote:step the fuck back wisdom
reset, get out of your tunnel and relook at it again
look at what, Mala? Have you done something town I should be looking at? That's what I'm asking you and I am getting no response.
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In post 1046, Shadowcat wrote:I disagreed with that in our PT b/c I went to the same conclusion as Zmf about that role being more groupscum than SK-y like feel.
Good for you.. doesn't change the fact the way Huntress pushed it looked like scum trying to push something
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In post 1088, Thor and Loki wrote:Actually, Ank/Skold/Gaiden is a pretty scummy collection of players!
ank is town, the other two maybe
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