Some pretty cool mechanics for this game compared to last.
I can also confirmed myself as town but I need players to target me tonight to do so.
Oh on top of that I'm in a
I'm sure doubters with be a plenty.
HI grapes.In post 22, grapes wrote:Oh that makes his post go from zero sense to understandable gibberish.
Hi Farside.
In post 24, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:I am in a masonry with SirCakezso idk how reliable your claim is o.o
~Bee
I hadn't received anything yet.In post 27, grapes wrote:Also farside I'm not sure what you're talking about?
I was confirming my pre-in in the signup thread.
You must be a scum.In post 72, Reasonably Rational wrote:In post 21, farside22 wrote:vote: grapes
Some pretty cool mechanics for this game compared to last.
I can also confirmed myself as town but I need players to target me tonight to do so.
Oh on top of that I'm in amasonry with firebringer
I'm sure doubters with be a plenty.I'M IN A MASONRY WITH...umm...whoever rolled Lapis Lazuli, cuz she's cool and wrecked Jaspar like four times or something.In post 24, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:I am in a masonry with SirCakezso idk how reliable your claim is o.o
~Bee
Okay, not really.
In all seriousness, the double mason claims are possible I guess, but, well...let's just say it's incredibly implausible that anyone would ever claim that in the functional pre-game.
I will ally with Obi-Wan Kenobi, A50, SirCakez, or shiro with no conditions.
I will ally with mastin2, Firebringer, Yume, TWIE or randomidget if they promise to actively participate in our alliance and TALK WITH ME about the game.
-Cerb
pedit: oh yes. Flavor claiming is basically really really really dumb.
They call it midway park.
For the record I'm not Mason with fire.In post 21, farside22 wrote:vote: grapes
Some pretty cool mechanics for this game compared to last.
I can also confirmed myself as town but I need players to target me tonight to do so.
Oh on top of that I'm in amasonry with firebringer
I'm sure doubters with be a plenty.
I have reasons.In post 43, SirCakez wrote:Why would you claim that farside
Facepalm
P-edit: no we can't lynch yet silly Bee
In post 214, Almost50 wrote:I submitted an ally-request with FB's name in it before I even read anything. I guess I can resubmit with a different name now. The problem is -although I've played with most of you before- there are only a handful of people whom I could actually have a decent read on in early game. I mean, FB is about the ONLY one I'm CONFIDENT I can read on D1. I like to think DGB too.. hell, that's not even a handful!
Suffice it to say, if you think you need an ally; I'm open to the idea. Just don't expect me to confide in you so easily. Oh, and DO NOT CLAIM YOUR ROLE OR FLAVOUR TO ME in the PT if we are allies. If anything bad should happen to you, I don't want to be a suspect in the dead thread too!
I will.In post 220, Yume wrote:Someone ally with me....?
I don't know many who believe it.In post 221, Firebringer wrote:I mean, what if they think they themselves are lynch bait/unlikely NK?In post 217, farside22 wrote:Anyone thinking they will be alive end game is never town.
I mean, my track record kind of shows I am more likely at endgame than to be NK.
I like sir cakes post and memento. It was a good catch.In post 222, Not Chara wrote:217
why is SirCakez in your town pile, and why is grapes maybe town?
edit: Yume, plenty of players haven't posted since you've asked. there's no need to rush, i'm sure you'll find a partner.
Fixed.In post 224, farside22 wrote:Sorry bad auto correct at the end.
I liked sir cakez post against mcmenno
More serious.In post 225, Reasonably Rational wrote:Farside just said she'd ally with you Yume.In post 217, farside22 wrote:Town read on Chara
I have reasons.In post 43, SirCakez wrote:Why would you claim that farside
Facepalm
P-edit: no we can't lynch yet silly Bee
Sorry not explaining what they are.
You want to ally with me we can talk there.
I believe Sir Cakez and obi claim.
Kraska makes me feel like gross. I don't like the post 76 reach out.
Hard to explain why.
Vote: kraska
Anyone thinking they will be alive end game is never town.
Mmmm grapes maybe town.
Sir Cakez goes into town pile.
MeMenno goes into scum pile.
Ahhhh Fb you know I love you, we can be in game Mason if you want.
I'd ally with yume, skybird or Fox I like the girl power.
FB: That's how Drixx works. He's not an asshole until someone else is an asshole, and then once they are, he's an unbearable asshole.
Yume: Please don't waste something on FB for THAT reason at least. If you think he's scum, sure, but otherwise...don't do it yo.
Farside: you mentioned earlier that I was scum for not including you in my list of people to ally with. Was that a legitimate read, or a joke? If legitimate, please elaborate.
-Cerb
Great!In post 228, Yume wrote:Yes, though disagree that only scum can survive to endgame. There are ways to achieve that without being scum (ex. unrestricted bulletproof etc)In post 223, farside22 wrote:I will.In post 220, Yume wrote:Someone ally with me....?
You up for my craaaazzzzyyyy ways?
I don't know many who believe it.In post 221, Firebringer wrote:I mean, what if they think they themselves are lynch bait/unlikely NK?In post 217, farside22 wrote:Anyone thinking they will be alive end game is never town.
I mean, my track record kind of shows I am more likely at endgame than to be NK.
I don't think I ever will. Unless I'm completely off on my reads or scum is dumb. I die early then that.
I like sir cakes post and memento. It was a good catch.In post 222, Not Chara wrote:217
why is SirCakez in your town pile, and why is grapes maybe town?
edit: Yume, plenty of players haven't posted since you've asked. there's no need to rush, i'm sure you'll find a partner.
I have trust issues with grape.
If time turns me down, sure.In post 272, Foxbird wrote:Whoops.In post 245, Firebringer wrote:Get your mind out of the gutter, I meant for you to bite people. Like an attack dog. You are a fox after all...In post 243, Foxbird wrote:I mean... that'd be rather kinky. This is a show for our innocent youth, after all.
Nah I don't generally bite people. Or peck. I am very harmless.
Farside, do you still wanna ally? <3 I overlooked your post.
Sweet!In post 302, Yume wrote:Too late, farside and I are allied and next day I am planning alliance with RR.In post 300, Skybird wrote:I'm up for this if you are still willing.In post 193, Yume wrote:I would be okay with that engagementIn post 191, Skybird wrote:So who would like to ally with me?
Me too.In post 317, mastin2 wrote:If it makes you feel better: no longer scumreading you, and farside's one of my strongest townreads now.In post 237, Firebringer wrote:I think RR is scum btw.
Is this serious?In post 381, grapes wrote:Klingon is scum.
Obiwan is scum.
RR might be scum.
Chara could be scum.
And there's 8 people who need to get vig'd already.
I already know whom I'm voting for.In post 514, kraskaesque wrote:also randomidget and grapes are only echoing farfar's sr because it's too easy
By the isn't not kraska but one of the 2 mentioned in the quote.In post 544, farside22 wrote:I already know whom I'm voting for.In post 514, kraskaesque wrote:also randomidget and grapes are only echoing farfar's sr because it's too easy
The question is how much pressure will I apply to it.
I'm scum reading random and I have a gut scum read on rr.In post 578, Skybird wrote:Farside, to me this is part of the problem with Day 0 as it were. Some people won't participate since the game technically hasn't started. Others shit post and don't do much. Not sure there is much we can do about it right now.
Want to talk about things in the thread so far? You are feeling pretty town to me.
I love the auto correct on my phone.In post 595, farside22 wrote:Not sure what your smoking with a few players on your scum list Mastin, but you need to puff, puff pass that cracks pipe.
Wait the masons claim was fake!!???!!In post 599, SirCakez wrote:lol asking your scum buddy for an alliance?In post 444, McMenno wrote:your lossIn post 441, SirCakez wrote: You're in my scum pool so no
@kraskaesque how would you feel about an allianceThis has already been pointed out by multiple people but this is painfully scummy. Titus is never this floppy as town.In post 456, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:@Cerby, I feel so lost during this phase knowing scum cannot push anyone. That gives me direction. You two seem bold and leaders. If you could vote, where would you want my vote to be and why? Note:Farside, Mastina, grapes and Klingon don't really seem like good options to me. Whenever I think someone is scummy, they go be all townie and I am all like I dunno.
And Beeboy has barely posted since gamestart which is very worrisome.You should actually explain this.In post 477, kraskaesque wrote:mcmenno's prob town ^_^
(i'll get back to u about allying when lycan comes on)Ok I sent in the request. It will be worth it.In post 515, Almost50 wrote:Sure, why not! It's a BIG gamble on my part, I know (bc .. you know .. in the majority of games we were of opposite alignments), but a very good player IMHO and if you're town here then we rock!!In post 355, SirCakez wrote:I'm still open for allying, I wanted to ally with Mastin but that's out the window now.
Almost bby want to ally?
I'll submit the request right now
Time for some early reads!
Town pool = Fire, Not Chara, mastin, grapes, farside
Scum pool = Mcmenno, kraskaesque, obi
Special slot who gets their own corner because I can't read them = reasonably rational
Anyone else hasn't made an impression on me
Pretty sure she thinks your scum together.In post 605, SirCakez wrote:Wait mastin if you thought the Mason claims were legit why did you have both Obi and I in the scumread section of your list earlier?
In post 631, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:And I didn't buy that as the context. Nor did RR (at least one of the heads) evidently.In post 630, Not Chara wrote:i... now don't understand this.In post 625, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:This is still Ewwww. The focus was more on the fact they referred to McMenno as lone scum, and there's no reason to believe that any town player should be looking for solo scum.In post 622, Not Chara wrote:...i don't agree with it either. but Rational didn't have a problem with a reasoning, they seemed to not understand what kraska was even saying, and was viewing it as a slip.
'lone scum' refers to a hypothetical scum player who isn't in a hydra... what does that have to do with hunting?
This is a stretch and a half.In post 632, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:This is the context. Searching for an SK is outright scummy and suggests Kraska isn't town because he thinks McMenno could be an SK. Hence why lone scum had to be explained.In post 546, kraskaesque wrote:because lone scum is unlikely to approach a town hydra for an allyIn post 543, CooLDoG wrote:y?In post 477, kraskaesque wrote:mcmenno's prob town ^_^
(i'll get back to u about allying when lycan comes on)
Null.In post 673, Skybird wrote:I have RR as null right now. I have a hard time reading them much of the time.In post 587, farside22 wrote:I'm scum reading random and I have a gut scum read on rr.In post 578, Skybird wrote:Farside, to me this is part of the problem with Day 0 as it were. Some people won't participate since the game technically hasn't started. Others shit post and don't do much. Not sure there is much we can do about it right now.
Want to talk about things in the thread so far? You are feeling pretty town to me.
I will get a list together once everyone post.
Kraska reminds me of badass mafia all over again as far as playstyle goes.
My concern is the arguments going on will just have the lurking scum type keep lurking while people fight.
KC sounds really town right now. I have a town read on Mastin too.
Cool Dog is pinging my scumdar. What do you think about him?
I haven't looked into her scum games yet but I have it on my to do list.In post 676, Skybird wrote:Farside, I think people are ignoring her right now.
I hope she won't be antagonistic this game (or at least not much). If she is town, I don't want to see us mislynch her. But her playstyle makes it difficult for me to sort her and for others to put up with her.
Okay.In post 753, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:Well he's promised content, but that's secondary. It's not his reaction I am looking for. I obviously will not answer more directly than this. I will explain why once I get the reaction I was seeking.In post 752, farside22 wrote:Obi: why do you think voting will pressure creature to do something?
Why is he the one your pushing the most?
Holy misrep batman.In post 754, SnarkySnowman wrote:I'll go bullet points.
21 early mason claim. whyyyyyyy (and yes 24 is just as scummy, joke or not -__-)
206 "oh wait being a mason is a joke"
217 "I believe obi / cakez claim".........................................................................
217 **Cakez note
602 farside is fake af
tl;dr "obi is scum for doing more or less same shit as me"
+a few other reasons but this is fine for now.
and that Cakez note. Farside do you still townread Cakez?
Vote farside guys
Explain why?In post 756, McMenno wrote:I like snarky for town for now
this reads fake.In post 775, Creature wrote:Btw, Reasonably and Not Chara are probtown, but am afraid of Firebringer and Obi-Wan Kenobi.
this question just seems dumb.In post 840, Reasonably Rational wrote:So is this purely you insulting mastin and Yume, or does this mean you firmly disagree with mastins scumread on NC?In post 839, Firebringer wrote:In post 831, mastin2 wrote:Really not a bad assumption.In post 695, Firebringer wrote:Does alliance in that context mean that Skybird can talk to the player who has role card of Steven Universe?
I am guessing that makes Skybird "Connie".
As for the event triggering the -2 stress: an extension of me being a miller I suppose is that my event power instead of raising stress lowers it by two. That was my trigger. (I know, Varsoon said that in general, town events will raise stress and scum events will lower stress. But mine didn't. Dealwithit.) It was a pro-town power, I assure you, best used early rather than later especially given that I'm going to die early this game regardless.
VOTE: Not Chara.The blind leading the blinder.In post 833, Yume wrote:Okay, now I've taken care of that neighborhood stuff. I am ready to sheep.
VOTE: Not Chara
-Cerb
In post 883, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:Now, I have the reaction I was looking for.
NC had the two players who were possibly scum wagoned together. NC if scum, most likely is scum with RR or Creature due to the rule of 3. (Namely if a scumfuck gives a reads list where there's multiple scum, more likely than not there's a buddy). By having Creature and RR as the options, I could see if NC would bus or not. By approaching this from that angle, NC clearly didn't believe in their scumread allegedly on Creature or RR.
NC has had irregular interactions with RR that have been documented by other people. Yet, she suddenly it's not wanting to rope them.
NC's reactions have been like this all game.
VOTE: NC
explain the snarky read to me.
what?In post 891, Almost50 wrote:Oh, and in case it isn't clear: NC already voiced their suspicion of me, so OMGUS readily exist on my part. As for opportunism, I have never voiced my suspicion of them either, so my jump on their wagon is unwarranted it seems.
Come one, people.. put some pressure on me.
In post 899, Firebringer wrote:Like if someone told me "I need textbook example of TvT" I would direct them to this
read it, color me unimpressed.In post 912, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:@ Fire
ObiWan
Firebringer
Yume
Mastin
Farside22
Skybird (Weak)
Almost50
Mcmenno
KTS
grapes
Cakey (weak)
Random (weak)
This is mine. Beeboy thinks Snowman is town though soo...
Scum don't fake Innocent Child.
@Farside, Read on to your question.
I'd lynch sera too.In post 942, Seraphim wrote:I have a lot of trouble with large themes, not necessarily because of the larger player size but because a lot of players tend to take it as an excuse to shitpost and troll and what have you rather than playing the actual game. This pisses me off which also tends to tilt my scumdar and read players as scum who are probably just town shitting around. It also increases my apathy levels and makes it more difficult for me to get firm reads. I know I can't be the only player like this; farside mentioned it earlier in the thread. Cool it on the shit posts; post well or not at all. There's already going to be a lot of noise in this thread. Firebringer, in particular, needs to tone it the fuck down.
Probably should do some real content too. But what content do I have?
Hmmmmm.
Well.
Creature is my strongest non-Mastin/Yume townread (i.e. based purely on play).
KTS is town.
I mostly just have a list of players I am peeved at but I think TheWayItEnds stands out as good scumread material.
Vote: TheWayItEnds
wait i'm confused was this a mod joke or is this something that kill was talking about being an IC? if so why is OWK someone you can trust?In post 689, Varsoon wrote:
"Are you okay?"
-Steven"Areyouokay? You're the one that's been through everything. The least I could do is just listen."
-Connie,Full Disclosure
VOTECOUNT 1.0
Not Voting (25):Obi-Wan Kenobi, Klingoncelt, SirCakez, Foxbird, Xkfyu, Skybird, Almost50, Shiro, DrippingGoofball, Farside22, Yume, CooLDoG, Reasonably Rational, grapes, mastin2, Not Chara, Kraskaeaque, killthestory, McMenno, Firebringer, Seraphim, SnarkySnowman, Creature, randomidget, TheWayItEnds
With 25 Alive, it takes 13 to Lynch.: (expired on 2016-09-21 15:10:00)
Deadline
The Current Stress is -1:
KEEP BEACH CITY WEIRD:
I'd agree more with the creature scum read then Chara. I think your making a lot out of nothing in regards to NC.In post 951, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:@Farside, I don't particularly care if you're impressed.
I didn't like Snarky's attack on you or him defending Chara. Beeboy thinks they are town though.
NC and Creature are likely partners at this point. I'll find the scum and don't care if you're impressed.
I'd lynch Sera in a pinch.
grey with hints of blue and green in it.
the reason is crappy and just looks like trying to make a big move for really bad reason.In post 959, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:His read on you feels like something that would be really odd for scum to try and coast on since there is a variety of other pushes he could have done that would be a lot easier.In post 946, farside22 wrote:explain the snarky read to me.
~Bee
I'd vote for either. Which ever wagon goes, I go.In post 962, Not Chara wrote:farside: i understand why you went from OWK to Snarky, but why have you voted Sera now?
do you still think OWK is mafia?
pedit: okay. mastin seems to be a popular townread, is it the Yume read you want looked at? or both?
Bee: what are the easier pushes a hypothetical scum Snarky would be more likely to go after?
Pretty much for this reason alone.In post 960, Firebringer wrote:Bee, I hate how you and Titus are forming reads right now.
Yes and your reads and big puffing chest of let me make fake fucking reads doesn't fool me in the least.In post 965, SnarkySnowman wrote:Hey farside! Does your town read on Cakez still stand?
In post 979, SnarkySnowman wrote:Actually farside, I'm trying to change the perception of me "not doing things" in mafia games :/
Directed at me but sure let's just believe that comment was in general.In post 982, SnarkySnowman wrote:That's a general note to everyone. And I never said I believed farside was scum 100%, but I definitely want to wagon / pressure her.
Weak town reads for weak reason.In post 981, Not Chara wrote:oh, and those saying they would vote Sera, or are voting him: why is he scummy?
Why not xfy or random.In post 994, Seraphim wrote:Why not, farside?
If you vote snarky I will do everything in my power to make that lynch happen.In post 995, mastin2 wrote:Howdy, folks.
Remember when I made that there reads list of mine?
Yeah, well, it's in need of some updatin', so here ya go.
Yume
farside22
TheWayItEnds
Firebringer
grapes
Creature
Killthestory
randomidget
kraskaesque
Cooldog
Foxbird
Shiro
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Skybird
McMenno
Almost50
DrippingGoofball
Seraphim
Klingoncelt
SnarkySnowman
Xkfyu
Reasonably Rational
SirCakez
Not Chara
Of course, you might be wonderin: what's with the bottom four names? Yeah, well, that right there is yer scumteam.
Now, I'm quite aware: given the size of this game, you should expect five, right?
Yeah. I'm missing one. But that's where y'all come in! I'm accepting applications. You'll need some good references to get in, though.
I figure, reasons would probably be useful here, so I'll let you in on a little secret: I have this superweapon which worked on the scum names I have so far, a "tell", if you will.
Unfortunately, if I were to reveal what it is right now, any chance of finding the fifth would be lost, so I suppose for the time, you'll just have to do without.
What's wrong with including pregame stuff?In post 1005, Seraphim wrote:Actually you are totally right about Xkfyu. randommidget has yet to post during D1 and TWIE's posts are pretty shit in general.
Unvote
Vote: Xkfyu
Titus if this is you, no offense but after our last game together my trust in your ability to read players is non existent.In post 1023, Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:*glares* my associations are as good as the assumptions given.In post 1022, DrippingGoofball wrote:And the worse, the townier LOLIn post 968, Creature wrote:Titus making crappy associations is probably town!Titus
1) It's a general note, but directed at you at the time.In post 1031, SnarkySnowman wrote:In post 992, farside22 wrote:m afraid of Firebringer and Obi-Wan Kenobi.In post 979, SnarkySnowman wrote:Actually farside, I'm trying to change the perception of me "not doing things" in mafia games :/Directed at me but sure let's just believe that comment was in general.In post 982, SnarkySnowman wrote:That's a general note to everyone. And I never said I believed farside was scum 100%, but I definitely want to wagon / pressure her.
Your reads are fake.
So far your reasons are basically cherry picking a few things and making fake accusations that was never stated.
Reads that lack actually reading the game and figuring things out is still scummy.In post 1049, Skybird wrote:Farside, let me be devil's advocate for a second. Snarky did indicate he was trying to be less of a lurk sack. Is it possible he's trying too hard?
p-edit: I don't agree Snarky is "so town" for the record.
OR scum are using those reads for themselves.In post 1064, grapes wrote:Or...
Or.
Maybe when more than one person sees something. Might mean there's something there.
Maybe I should say I'm scum and help me bus my scum buddy snarky.In post 1067, Firebringer wrote:Those evil scum buttsIn post 1065, farside22 wrote:OR scum are using those reads for themselves.
So why do you think SirCakez is blantenly scum?
So gut.In post 1072, grapes wrote:I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.In post 1066, Almost50 wrote:Maybe, but that's not how it seems to be. Try asking the 4th of 5th person to place X in the town pile and/or Y in the scum pile and see if you have a convincing argument.
I think it's just one of those things where people don't notice your stances until you put them all in one place. Which is to be expected in a game this large.
I also don't know what your scumreads are. Work on that.
Nothing he's said has felt genuine and a lot of his thoughts are surface level.farside22 wrote:So why do you think SirCakez is blantenly scum?
Even very early game I thought his tone felt off and his stances are hard to follow. Like his menno read is for fishing and he's stayed far too sticky and confident there considering mcmenno has done some town things.
Obi-wan vote was pretty bad. It's either scum fanning the flames of a tvt or cakes sawing for chara.
There's a cookie in it.In post 1071, Firebringer wrote:I might be more willing to follow you if you didIn post 1068, farside22 wrote:Maybe I should say I'm scum and help me bus my scum buddy snarky.In post 1067, Firebringer wrote:Those evil scum buttsIn post 1065, farside22 wrote:OR scum are using those reads for themselves.
So why do you think SirCakez is blantenly scum?
RR is null.In post 1078, grapes wrote:No. It's more than gut for sure.In post 1073, farside22 wrote:So gut.
Why is snarky town then? His reads are surface level reads that are senseless.
If you say too scummy to be scum I'm going to vote you.
You were in the last SU if I remember correctly. What makes rr different from that game?
Snarky is town because gut and I don't think he makes a push on you as scum. Like his vibe too.
He's also like the only person in the entire game who had the balls to call me scum.
Well that's like year old meta, so. Hard to say because I don't really remember.
Why do you think RR's town?
Why don't you ask snarky why he finds you scum?
I want to lynch snarky.In post 1096, Creature wrote:I want to lynch Cakez
Sure is cupcake.In post 1099, grapes wrote:Is it scummy to care more about certain people's opinions?In post 1094, farside22 wrote:Why don't you ask snarky why he finds you scum?
So yeah ill put you as praising for BS reasons and weak reason's for scum reads.In post 1083, grapes wrote:Meh.
I feel like most of the townreads on me that weren't people who would probably know how to read me weren't very justified. I thought snarky's line "grapes is like nullscum at best" felt genuine cuz that's where I'd expect a town-him to be at going by whatever odd shit I posted so far.
This is very untrue.kraskaesque is still scum because the only thought process readily in their iso is that thing about mcmenno which a lot of people have already said is pretty black and white.
like that's it as far as depth of thought goes with regards to scumhunting. which is strange because they have given a readslist (with all townreads ftr, which is already yuck)