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I'm getting mixed signals hereIn post 10, Isis wrote:HEAL: Dannflor
so he can make judgment day decisions and carry us.
HURT: Dannflor
for not teaching me how the setup works last time he modded it so now I think I can do that
this seems like an innocent non-demonic person
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yeah I read the entirety of the games I modIn post 76, Isis wrote:Wait someone gets that reference right
I'm not the only player from the last run of the setup, right?
Um
Dannflor you read unbolded gameplay?-
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do you expect Green Crayons to know what Isis is usually like? is agreeing with Hayasaka's theory scummy? Voting Isis purely for font reasons seems ever so mildly towny to me too even if I disagree and think bullying Isis should be illegal
I'm unsure which part of his entrance exactly you find scummy-
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I am honestly not sure what I see it as now but I wanted to see what would happen if I voted there
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oh and I was going to respond to this but forgotIn post 115, Cthylla wrote:Green Crayons has played with Isis before !
the "happy with my vote" bit i didn't like
don't know why but maybe cuz it feels like he's putting unreasonable confidence in something which doesn't warrant it?
Is unreasonable confidence for something that doesn't warrant it scummy?
I think Green Crayons had an awkward/uncharismatic entrance (sorry green crayons I'm sure you are very charismatic outside of this particular instance) which might make for bad vibes but I think I'm not seeing the part that is scummy-
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my gut wanted to town read this post because it seemed pure and is a nice reaction to being asked if they would be a good heaven candidateIn post 166, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:Yes, for sure, once I am elimed I tend to stray to other games.
I do like to read but engagement for me is helped by having an active role and being forced to participate.
Actually so far in terms of reads I tr you and norwee.
So VOTE: unvote
But other reads will have to wait on a reread when I wake up.
Good night.
but my head says that there was a reason walter started all the heaven talk in the first place?-
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like on its own the post is mostly NAIIn post 198, Green Crayons wrote:
Can you explain this?In post 172, Dannflor wrote:I don't dislike his entrance on isolation but I dislike its placement on page 6 of the game
I didn't like it because it came after certain slots had already developed reads and there was content to comment on
word opts to ignore most of this in favor of a milque-toast mechanics entrance-
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I'm still reading, but why me here?
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I'm skimming so I may have missed some of the reasoning why, but I'm unsure how I got above Hayasaka here while having made 0 posts in between.
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I just haven't been here! Like I understand that argument day 1 but I was literally without service for two nights. It's not towny it just means I went campingIn post 695, Cthylla wrote:Because you're not trying to look towny and get yourself heavened. It doesn't look like you have an agenda.
I think Isis might be town actually because she's having too much fun this game.-
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Isis/Hayasaka are still my top two town reads after finishing reading D1
I lean towards heavening Isis. I am closer to 100% confidence on Hayasaka than I am on Isis so heavening Isis is slightly better fmpov. I'm also more suspicious of slots that are like "I don't really wanna go to heaven but I guess I will ladada" than Isis who is just like "yeah I wanna go to heaven."
clidd seems vaguely towny maybe? I need to read more of D2 but I think it's better for judgement day if we're sending townies we think want to go and solve from heaven.-
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I assume this is a scum read on Cthulu? You were town reading me before enough to be voting for me, does your scum read saying this about me completely diminish the reasons you had for town reading me?In post 699, Green Crayons wrote:Cool, so either clidd of Dann is scum and I don't think it's possible to work out the WIFOM of it until a flip.
UNVOTE: Dann
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btw yes walls can be a good scum tactic in that a lot of people like to look at walls and lazily assign them as town because *effort* = town or somethingIn post 716, Green Crayons wrote:As for Isis, I think walls upon walls is a good scum tactic but recognize that posting style isn't a sure-fire scum tell.
but I think timing and motivation count a lot here
specifically Isis coming back in after she had already been posting a lot and the thread had died down early D1 to do a catch up post on things she hadn't responded to leans towny timing and motivation to me. It wasn't an organized reads list or like "hey everyone here is everything I've learned now, I am town and have good make sense progression," it just seemed to be Isis having more thoughts about the game and wanting to get them out there-
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It makes me less paranoid about you being scum yes actuallyIn post 724, Hayasaka wrote:If it makes you feel better you are in the middle of my list right now. I changed my mind after reviewing my read.-
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Was there anything in particular you wanted to see from my slot? Specific reads or anythingIn post 626, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:need to see more from Dannflor before voting.-
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Do you think it's most likely they are T/SIn post 733, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Mixed, i like the way they are detailing their mindset. But some of their reads i don't really understand, like saying it's scummy that i sniped his alt for example. Or his Isis read.In post 723, Dannflor wrote:Norwee, do you have a read on Cthulu
Also that hammer on Word seemed a bit iffy.
Tbh i've been considering if it's best to heaven GC, and if they're town we hell Hectic tommorow.-
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I'm town
I have this small fear there is a team like Isis/Norwee/Walter
and Cythylla vs. GC is actually town versus town
Like a lot of the posts or fallacies they are making that people are calling scummy or problematic aren't necessarily scummy, they're just flawed arguments
and I feel like the game is slightly pushing a narrative of one of those two or both being scum? but that could be a misread-
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I don't necessarily think heavening scum at this point is the end of the worldIn post 760, Green Crayons wrote:the surface level slight doesn't have legs. I think you're scum. I think scum would WIFOM a teammate into their heaven pool. Because I can't figure out who that'd be between clidd and Dann, the safe play is to not have either of them go to heaven. There are other good heaven candidates.
I think the last run of this setup started with a D1 town hell and a D2 scum heaven and town ended up winning
But it needs to be a slot that probably isn't getting helled otherwise
This is why I favor Isis but maybe more people scum read her than I realize?-
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it's starting slightly late and I have a mafia addictionIn post 762, Isis wrote:
Are you up to date? Was you DND game super short? Did you nat20?In post 756, Dannflor wrote:should I be more paranoid about Hayasaka than I am? I feel very unparanoid about that slot but I can't point to a specific thing to be like "that's why I'm so confident"-
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Haya, I think is town but I am not sure I want to heaven her as much because I'm *so* confident. But my reasons aren't exactly airtight so I'll revisit that later today. Norwegian, I don't have much of a read on that bothers me. I suppose I liked Isis' post about himIn post 769, Green Crayons wrote:
That's fair.In post 763, Dannflor wrote:
I don't necessarily think heavening scum at this point is the end of the worldIn post 760, Green Crayons wrote:the surface level slight doesn't have legs. I think you're scum. I think scum would WIFOM a teammate into their heaven pool. Because I can't figure out who that'd be between clidd and Dann, the safe play is to not have either of them go to heaven. There are other good heaven candidates.
I think the last run of this setup started with a D1 town hell and a D2 scum heaven and town ended up winning
But it needs to be a slot that probably isn't getting helled otherwise
This is why I favor Isis but maybe more people scum read her than I realize?
What do you think about Haya or Norwegian?-
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I think it's +EV if I am not heavened.In post 770, Green Crayons wrote:Also, are you happy with being heavened?
I believe my skillset lies in being obv-town and avoiding getting mis-elimed
My individual read accuracy isn't amazing and I think I produce the best results when I have people to bounce off of.
I dunno I don't think it would be the worst thing but I'd rather heaven other people first and I think I'm more useful here?-
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Can you expand on this thought? Or why you feel this way about Clidd?In post 773, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:I also feel that scum may want to push clidd out thread if he is town.-
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lol I don't know if I'm just attaching to really weird things this game but I want to call this a very town post/reactionIn post 792, clidd wrote:In post 748, Hayasaka wrote:Isis, Dannflor are you 2 town? We can play like the dance game again and be an unstoppable force. That was a fun game.-
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...I was reading and this post exactly coincided with me questioning my town read on youIn post 485, Isis wrote:Dannflor when you get back to the thread here is a little wall for you about the strategy for this day phase and how some of the incentives it produces dovetail with your playstyle
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yeah this is what keeps giving me the heebie jeebiesIn post 822, Hayasaka wrote:My other thing on why I am unsure if I can vote Isis is it's basically what everyone's secondary option is.
I also don't think it's the end of the world if we heaven Isis!scum
but maybe she is not the town read I need to check right now-
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