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Dear God you guys posted a lot. Okay, I'm back from the busiest few days of the year for the Best Buy employee and I just have a few things I wanted to post that probably has already been covered in the huge amount of posts within the past 48 hours before I go back to a less stressful shift.
First off: the three wagons that just jumped and disappeared, who started the three wagons, who were on all three, and why did everyone switch from one or the other? I'm thinking scum probably had something to do with the wagons, trying to see which mislynch they could stick.-
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Best Buy has been kicking my ass. One of the things I'm uneasy about and I posted this before my V/LA is Flubbernugget wagon hopping right before I left. It gave me a vibe of "I'm not gonna win this lynch with Amy so I'm just going to hop on the next vanity wagon". And what was his reasoning? Oh, I suck at mafia so I'm just going to sheep someone. And now that another vanity wagon started and I posted something about his wagon hopping, he's openly supporting the Siv wagon, but not actually wanting to be on it.
So my top scum read now gets my vote.
Vote: Flubbernugget-
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In post 472, Flubbernugget wrote:But why should I think you're seeing it from a town perspective.
I don't care if you see it coming from a town perspective or not. It's called scumhunting. I saw something that didn't sit right with me as a town thing for you to do and I'm calling you on it. Hence, you are my top scum read. I tend not to worry too much if someone I feel is scum agrees with me or thinks me suspecting them is coming from a town perspective.
Think about this, if you saw me jumping from wagon to wagon and saying I'm just abandoning this wagon on going to another under the guise, "I suck, I'm sheeping this guy", what would YOU be doing?
Oh and if calling something out like that which could be a scummy act on your part is something that isn't coming from a town perspective, then we really need to rethink how this game is played.-
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Unvote: Flubbernugget
I'll swing by Day 2 to see what's going on with Flubbernugget but something just caught my eye that I think needs to be addressed right now. We had a weak wagon get started on Alchemist once the Siv wagon stalled. Ane did a nice breakdown showing us that Mathdino was on all three of the major wagons before hand. Now he's part of the second biggest wagon on right now. I'm just getting a vibe that he's trying to mislynch whoever he can.
I'll give him one post to answer these questions in a manner that makes me feel better about him before officially moving my vote onto him. Because I'm fair and stuff.
1) What was your reasoning for voting for then removing your votes on all three of them?
2) Who were your top two or three scumreads during the time of each wagon, including the wagoned player?
3) Who are you scumreading right now (including your voted read, Alchemist)? You sidestepped when you were asked before. You mentioned scenarios making people go either way before, I'll accept an explanation of that if it still applies.-
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In post 601, Mathdino wrote:1. Amy I believe I gave sufficient reasons for voting for. Her wagon developed too quickly in quick succession. wgeurts was a meta tell and I wanted to see where voting him would take me. Took me to L-2, jumped off to regroup and look at the wagon behaviour. By 3rd, do you mean Flubber? Siveure? Flubber I voted for RVS weirdness, jumped off to vote Amy. Siveure I'm off because I think Alchemist is a better idea and I realised I was only sticking to Siveure's wagon because he prematurely claimed VT and thus isn't really a loss if he gets lynched. Alchemist is higher risk. But more reward, since Siv's been acting pretty townish since the wagon developed.
2. Uh, don't know? I can retroactively guess.
Amy: Probably Amy and Flubber.
wgeurts: Amy, Flubber, wgeurts.
Siveure: I don't even remember, this was when I started getting into groupy mode.
Read my ISO if you want to know. I'm too lazy to do so now.
3. Scumteam if Siveure's scum is probably him (which rules out dave and Alchemist and sorta Aneninen and sorta Flubber, yay), and probably people in {Venrob, Ankamius, Amy, Adrien, the Romitelli slot}. Dunno, don't have flip. I could go into more detail of that hypothetical if you want. If Siv's town, which I'm coming around to, Alchemist and Aneninen rocket to the top of my scumreads, not sure on whether they're scum together, will have to check that. Otherwise, would look at {Flubber, Amy, Ankamius}.
I don't like the top scumreads question when I've already shown you I have a slightly more nuanced view of the game. It's fine if someone's inactive or isn't giving any reads but honestly, again, read my posts.
Mostly responding to number 3: I think I got the gist of your scenario and understand what your point of view. What I'm wondering is you have this all planned out for Siv's flip, but you might not know what his flip will be now that the wagon on him is starting to disappear. What lynch do you think you can learn from other than his if we aren't lynching him? Because if I'm understanding how you're playing this game based on your last post, you are wanting to lynch you can connect the dots with. You're no longer voting the person you laid out your scenarios for so what now?-
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In post 688, farside22 wrote:In post 670, TheAdrienC wrote:So that's five on Anen and four on Siv, right? Because I think we're close to deadline and we need to decide on a lynch soon.
Do you have a scum read on either one?
A weak one on Siv. That was more of a "I don't want a no lynch" post.Last edited by insanity018 on Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:24 am, edited 1 time in total.-
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In post 1231, Mathdino wrote:Flubber and Alchemist need to switch votes
Idk whats goin on there
I trust adrien to make a decision regardless
I think i use regardless more than a valley girl uses like
Like, regardless, totally consider...
It might be awhile before I make one. Basically it's between Ollie and Victor, right?-
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In post 1130, Mathdino wrote:ollie the fact that your predecessor claimed my role
and i'm not a VT
pretty much seals the deal
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Farside wants reads. I'll give reads. I'm going to be doing all these from memory so I might forget someone or something.
Mathdino: He's been the most town player in this game so far. Looking back, I think I do see Alchemist clearing him.Town
Anen: He's been fairly towny, asking the right questions, voting in an understandable manner, etc.Probaby Town
Droog: He hasn't done anything that really makes me feel like he's town. But I've been scum with him before where we manipulated the living shit out of the town together. I don't see this is scum droog.Null-lean town
Farside: Obsessed with me like she's a school girl and I'm (insert handsome actor). Though I haven't played the best game, so I can understand that, she's tunneling a bit and not ready to adjust her reads, but I've heard about town farside being stubborn as hell. Scum do tend to be a bit more opportunistic, and she has not been.Null-leaning town
GC: I don't want to trust him. I dunno, just some vibe I'm getting from him, but I don't have any real solid evidence saying he's scum. My gut hates him, but my brain has no issues.Null-lean scum
Flubbernugget: He was my first scum read in this game and I'm still not reading him very well. Go through my ISO and I pretty much broke down why I wasn't a fan of Flubber. I'm sticking by my guns. I told you I was keeping my eye on you, Flub. Also, that quick hammer after I posted intent and was waiting for information before actually hammering didn't rub me very well.Weak scum read
Formerfish: Nothing really stands out to me either way with the fish. I sometimes forget (s)he's alive. I did get on to fish for not contributing so I'm not giving fish a free pass though.Null
wguerts: I know a handful of people are scumreading him but I never really saw the reason myself of why people were going after him. Not to say I wouldn't hammer if he was at L-1, but I'm just not reading him as strongly.Null
Ollie: The entire time I did my catch-up focusing on Vic and Ollie, the entire time I was thinking to myself "Damn, both of these are scummy." I was going to hammer Victor but Flubber beat me to it, but I would have done it if it was Ollie too. I don't remember thinking Ank was town either.Fairly sure is scum-
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In post 1472, Flubbernugget wrote:Well I said my reads haven't changed today but I just realized that after alchemist's flip dino makes no sense as scum from my pov, so I'm down a scum read and idk what to do
So tell me about this wagon you're on. How do you feel about it?-
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In post 457, TheAdrienC wrote:Best Buy has been kicking my ass. One of the things I'm uneasy about and I posted this before my V/LA is Flubbernugget wagon hopping right before I left. It gave me a vibe of "I'm not gonna win this lynch with Amy so I'm just going to hop on the next vanity wagon". And what was his reasoning? Oh, I suck at mafia so I'm just going to sheep someone. And now that another vanity wagon started and I posted something about his wagon hopping, he's openly supporting the Siv wagon, but not actually wanting to be on it.
So my top scum read now gets my vote.
Vote: Flubbernugget
I touched that earlier with this.
In post 252, TheAdrienC wrote:I haven't caught up yet, but Nugget hopping from one wagon to another is something that makes me uncomfortable.
In post 1367, TheAdrienC wrote:Flubbernugget: He was my first scum read in this game and I'm still not reading him very well. Go through my ISO and I pretty much broke down why I wasn't a fan of Flubber. I'm sticking by my guns. I told you I was keeping my eye on you, Flub. Also, that quick hammer after I posted intent and was waiting for information before actually hammering didn't rub me very well.Weak scum read
Then you have him saying he didn't like the last lynch despite the fact he was the hammer. I'm currently asking him what he thinks about the Ollie wagon, which is important for my case.-
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In post 1510, Ollie wrote:In post 1508, farside22 wrote:Someone should ask ollie why he thinks adrien/flubber are scum together.
you know since I when I ask I get shit responses.
I think you'd be the better person to ask tbh given that makes you confirmed scum in my eyes. Most scum teams need someone on the inside driving things while the Adrien & Flubberdubber types lurk in the shadows.
YOU, Adrien/Flubbernugget & Formerside.
Adrien & Flubbernugget, you don't deserve to win no matter what side you're on. Minimal contribution/hiding.
Oh yes, because we are TOTALLY on the same side after Mathdino has broken it down multiple times how we're not on the same side.
And as for that last bit, dude, that's a really freaking low blow. You want to talk about minimal contribution, at least I gave a list of all my reads. At least I gave an actual case on someone and pursued it. The reason I even unvoted you was to make sure this day phase lasted longer so that you won't be getting lynched without us getting a full day's worth of conversation and content to make sure that we can actually find out who the mafia is. So why don't you tell me what you have done that's actually contributing to the cause, Ollie, instead of just saying "Derpa derp, you're not helping"?-
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In post 1521, Ollie wrote:In post 1518, TheAdrienC wrote:In post 1510, Ollie wrote:In post 1508, farside22 wrote:Someone should ask ollie why he thinks adrien/flubber are scum together.
you know since I when I ask I get shit responses.
I think you'd be the better person to ask tbh given that makes you confirmed scum in my eyes. Most scum teams need someone on the inside driving things while the Adrien & Flubberdubber types lurk in the shadows.
YOU, Adrien/Flubbernugget & Formerside.
Adrien & Flubbernugget, you don't deserve to win no matter what side you're on. Minimal contribution/hiding.
Oh yes, because we are TOTALLY on the same side after Mathdino has broken it down multiple times how we're not on the same side.
And as for that last bit, dude, that's a really freaking low blow. You want to talk about minimal contribution, at least I gave a list of all my reads. At least I gave an actual case on someone and pursued it. The reason I even unvoted you was to make sure this day phase lasted longer so that you won't be getting lynched without us getting a full day's worth of conversation and content to make sure that we can actually find out who the mafia is. So why don't you tell me what you have done that's actually contributing to the cause, Ollie, instead of just saying "Derpa derp, you're not helping"?
Derpa derp is actually quite a fun nickname for you, I'll stick with that, thanks Derpa derp. You gave a list once then lurked the rest of the time. That's like getting a BJ off your girlfriend once a year, just not good enough is it. Well done for unvoting me, do you want a medal? I guess you have to look like you actually care. What you've pursued is a vote not on me so no one can say you've lynched a townie like you showed intent to do last time. Considering I've been on the back foot the whole time I've done more than you Mr shadow lurker. You're an absolute passenger just like flubberdubber.
I work at Best Buy and was swamped with work for the holidays during that timeframe, hence the v/la. I wasn't lurking, I was inactive. There is a difference. And I asked you to tell me your contributions, not talk more about me. You're the one at L-2. Not me.-
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In post 1530, farside22 wrote:I read anem post: view is he's town and I see paraniod and thinking things that are a bit crazy in my view, but I enjoyed the ride.
I don't even see any ration reason from Ollie.
Seriously his scum reads are mostly just yelling at people and calling them scum.
That's the extent of his scum reads.
Some is copy/paste of things said by others.
We've disagreed a lot this game, farside, but finally we see eye to eye. Ollie has one more post to impress me or I'm putting my vote back on him.-
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