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What do you mean about Murphy sounding dangerous? Dangerous how?In post 86, SethYazura wrote:My first post wasn't forced, it's not an attempt on humor either, I made it sound strange on purpose.
If we don't lynch Murph now, we are just going to lynch him later because of how dangerous he sounds.
How about we lynch him now and start from there.
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The people that stand out for me so far are Seth for being deliberately strange. He's my top scum pick so far. Also, wgeurts, alpaca and redcoyote. I'll see if I can go back and be more specific. Everyone else is null so far.In post 102, Simoyd wrote:@Hoppic: I would love to hear your opinions on everyone so far. What do you think?-
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Haha answered you already!In post 106, Simoyd wrote:@Hoppic: why do you read redcoyote as scum?-
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When I said "also..." I meant also stand out. Although now I read my comment back I see I got it wrong because it sounds like also scum.In post 106, Simoyd wrote:@Hoppic: why do you read redcoyote as scum?-
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I can't really understand what she (?) is saying. A few players in this game are like that for me: raskolnokiv, you a bit and Murphy. Maybe others. I can understand individual words and sentences but overall I don't get it.In post 110, Simoyd wrote:@Hoppic: Raskolnikov has posted a lot. Does he not stand out a bit too? What do you think?-
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Thanks okay, what do you mean by saying that I've "stepped in it"? Stepped in what?In post 113, Murph wrote:I think you may have stepped in it, Hop.
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Who do you mean and why do you think they're town?In post 125, SethYazura wrote:From what I've observed so far only the ppl who has made the analysis of scum so far are town.
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This is awkward phrasing. He would think the same thing as town, if he was town... rather than that he did think the same.In post 203, RedCoyote wrote: This strikes me as a town mindset. I guess because I think I would wonder the same thing as town.
Seems like a scum slip to me.
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Buddying, rushing the lynch on day one... yeah. He's by far my strongest scum read.In post 212, RedCoyote wrote:I read both you and Ras as very town at this point, far more than any of the other players in this game. I'm grouping us together with the hopes that we can work as a bloc, more or less, in lynching someone today.-
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Simoyd asked me what I thought about Raskolnikov, and what I thought was that s/he posted a lot but that it didn't make much sense to me. I wouldn't have bothered saying that, except that he asked me directly. I put about you and Simoyd as well to show that it wasn't something outstanding or unusual about Raskolnikov but rather that it's about me and how I'm reading the game right now. i.e. that it's not making much sense yet. As I get to know how people are a bit more, maybe it will fit together better. It may seem disingenuous, but I don't see what else I can do except answer the question.In post 129, Murph wrote:In post 124, Hoppic wrote:
Thanks okay, what do you mean by saying that I've "stepped in it"? Stepped in what?In post 113, Murph wrote:I think you may have stepped in it, Hop.
I'll be than happy to explain any post of mine that you don't understand.
@ Hop
This whole post comes across as disingenuous.In post 111, Hoppic wrote:
I can't really understand what she (?) is saying. A few players in this game are like that for me: raskolnokiv, you a bit and Murphy. Maybe others. I can understand individual words and sentences but overall I don't get it.In post 110, Simoyd wrote:@Hoppic: Raskolnikov has posted a lot. Does he not stand out a bit too? What do you think?
Therefore, in this instance, "stepping in it" refers to you making a statement that reads as contrived in an effort to seem as though you are stating something useful. ( you just stepped into a pile of dung )
Both Sim and I said we'd explain any post that you didn't understand. Yet you have not posted, quoted nor bumped any posts for clarification.
I haven't gone back and reread the game yet so I haven't quoted particular parts. Also, there may not be any reason to. Some things become clear anyway after time. I couldn't figure out what yoghurts was at first, but then I realized.-
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okay, a few people are complaining that I said I didn't understand a lot of what raskolnikov said, so I'm going to pick an early post to show you what I mean.
I don't get this. First, it's about being reserved with town reads, and then in the next paragraph that they're confident with their townreads, and then that they don't discuss them, and then they go on to discuss them. Then, it's that this will help understand the approach. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to understand even.In post 72, Raskolnikov wrote:I don't really feel like this game is worth much analysis yet, but to help get it rolling I'll force myself to over-analyse!
I'll also explain something minor that influences my reads (and other peoples I think, even if they don't say it): potential to fake.
Basically, if I think someone is more capable of faking towniness I will be more reserved with that read.
An example being, if we had an IC like nachomamma who I've seen really good at scumplay I would never feel comfortable putting them beyond mild town, even if they "seem" really towny.
This can be from experience, but also from "feel"; if someone sounds really sophisticated and analytical they can feel really scary regardless of experience.
Usually I feel really confident with most of my newbie townreads and don't even discuss them much for it, and hopefully this will help you understand my approach here.
This mostly is clear, but some things are hard to understand, such as, murphy definitely thinking and being a tiny bit scary... also, about not having to stretch things at the end, and how it's supposed to be weak and tentative. Where does that idea come from?In post 72, Raskolnikov wrote:Extremely tentative reads
Simoyd - newbie-townish
Murph - very much into the game, definitely thinking. A tiny bit scary tbh, especially from how confident he sounds.
yogurts - Solid posts, agree in general with his reads. I thought his initial questioning of kala was to help start the game, however at this point he seems to actually suspect him. Asking good questions to all three of murph,sim,kala though I'd almost expect him to vote kala for his suspicion after asking why murph didn't vote. Moderate town, adjusted from his extensive experience.
KaladinStormblessed - feels a bit guarded. First post is actually okay, the rest are answering questions/explaining himself. Pretty null; can't townread him so far from what he's done, but this can go either way more-so than the others posted.
Redcoyote - Throws a lot of shade on yogurts which I don't agree with. I don't understand their reasoning for their vote on murph (how was that overly defensive?).
Not enough information {Hoppic, SethYazura, peoplewhohaven'tposted}
VOTE: Redcoyote
If he voted someone for minor things/posts while admitting they were minors, I wouldn't mind. But I feel like he's exaggerating how bad certain posts are to provide backing for his vote. But it's not necessary to be confident in your vote this early in the game, it actually is supposed to be weak and tentative; you don't have to stretch things...
So, there's a lot of small things like this, and there are in most posts, so that's what I was talking about.-
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Nothing Seth has said has made any sense to me and he seems really anti-town. I think he's probably scum, but redcoyote is a stronger read right now.In post 230, Simoyd wrote:@Hoppic: Do you believe Seth's "slayer's gambit" explanation? What is your read on him?
No, the slayer gambit explanation makes no sense. If you were doing that, why would you say so? Everyone's voting this early in the game, and the votes are not too serious so it doesn't make sense for timing either.-
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I don't get this. First, it's about being reserved with town reads, and then in the next paragraph that they're confident with their townreads, and then that they don't discuss them, and then they go on to discuss them. Then, it's that this will help understand the approach. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to understand even.In post 231, Hoppic wrote:okay, a few people are complaining that I said I didn't understand a lot of what raskolnikov said, so I'm going to pick an early post to show you what I mean.
In post 72, Raskolnikov wrote:I don't really feel like this game is worth much analysis yet, but to help get it rolling I'll force myself to over-analyse!
I'll also explain something minor that influences my reads (and other peoples I think, even if they don't say it): potential to fake.
Basically, if I think someone is more capable of faking towniness I will be more reserved with that read.
An example being, if we had an IC like nachomamma who I've seen really good at scumplay I would never feel comfortable putting them beyond mild town, even if they "seem" really towny.
This can be from experience, but also from "feel"; if someone sounds really sophisticated and analytical they can feel really scary regardless of experience.
Usually I feel really confident with most of my newbie townreads and don't even discuss them much for it, and hopefully this will help you understand my approach here.
Wait! i get it! newbie town reads, I thought you meant townreads in a newbie game. but now I see you mean townreads of noobs. okay. you're more confident reading new people than you are reading experienced people. Got it.-
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What do you think about what I said in post 227? Is it a scum slip?In post 230, Simoyd wrote:@Hoppic: Do you believe Seth's "slayer's gambit" explanation? What is your read on him?-
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You said,In post 263, RedCoyote wrote:
In what universe is this a scum slip? I was explaining why I considered that post to be town sounding.In post 227, Hoppic wrote:This is awkward phrasing. He would think the same thing as town, if he was town... rather than that he did think the same.
Seems like a scum slip to me."This strikes me as a town mindset. I guess because I think I would wonder the same thing as town."
Youthinkyou would wonder the same thing as town? It sounds as if you are just guessing what you would think if you were town, which means you're not town.
I don't think so?In post 263, RedCoyote wrote:Had I not included that comment, I suspect you would've attacked me for being "too vague" and "not backing up my reasons", yeah?
I know that WIFOM stands for wine in front of me, but what are you referring to here?
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What I said. At the time he only had one post and it didn't have any questions, it was just assessment, and it was something i noticed. Since then, he's posted more, and he seems less strange. I didn't mean actual questions in a grammatical sense, but rather a questionning stance. It wasn't a big deal, but I felt that it would help town to say something rather than nothing so that people could get a sense of where I'm coming from.In post 308, Simoyd wrote:So I have some concerns about you, hoppic:
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Why do you think it is wierd that alpaca has no questions? It seems that you only have two posts so far with questions about other people (125 and 232). 124 and 306 are defensive clarification questions, so not the same thing. 231 appears to be rhetorical as there was no follow up? I'm not trying to say you should ask more questions. I'm wondering what makes you think Alpaca's post is wierd?In post 105, Hoppic wrote:Alpacalpaca's only made one post so far, so it's hard to get a read just from that but it seemed strange to me that the post would be all about assessment and have no questions. Also, idk. It's easier to read people when you know what they're like a bit.
Well sure. I didn't have any strong reads at the beginning. I'm not sure why you would see that as a problem.In post 308, Simoyd wrote:Lurking / Not taking a stance / Feeling out the crowd
In posts 104, 107, 108, 109 - you really seem to be goin back and forth on your opinions. 109 explained this as a typo, but the wording in 107 "actually" demonstrates that the view posted here is different than 104. This series of posts gives me bad vibes.
I don't know what you're talking about here in relation to trains? I wasn't on any train at the beginning. You asked me directly what I thought about RAskolnicov and i said I didn't understand what they were saying and then when you and Murphy objected to that I tried to be more specific. I wasn't reading Raskolnikov as scum, and I didn't vote for them.In post 308, Simoyd wrote:Additionally:
I think murph and I were very clear. It really seems like you were lurking and scared to take a stance at this point. What is the town motivation here to not understand when asked to provide an opinion? I'd say it could be newbishness but later (227) you demonstrate that you can make a pretty solid deep read, so I'm a bit curious about this inconsistentcy. More evidence of lurking and fear of taking a stance is shown here:In post 111, Hoppic wrote:
I can't really understand what she (?) is saying. A few players in this game are like that for me: raskolnokiv, you a bit and Murphy. Maybe others. I can understand individual words and sentences but overall I don't get it.In post 110, Simoyd wrote:@Hoppic: Raskolnikov has posted a lot. Does he not stand out a bit too? What do you think?
that's post number 229! I feel like that's pretty far in. I don't think it's valuable for town to be posting opinons and analysis without having read up at that point. Sounds like it's really just more fear to take a stance, and trying to feel out what opinion will draw the least attention. How do you think this helps town?In post 229, Hoppic wrote:I haven't gone back and reread the game yet so I haven't quoted particular parts.
Lets face it. The murph trane was crap at the start, and was still crap at the time your post here. This seems like parroting to me. Basically your analysis was that you agreed with a shitty trane and then you posed a rhetorical question (which I also mentioned above). The focus here wasn't that you didn't understand what raskolnikov said, but more that you demonstrated you didn't value understanding what raskolnikov said. Your response to parrot his opionions and post the rhetorical question still doesn't really take any kind of stance. What is your read on Rasko?In post 231, Hoppic wrote:This mostly is clear, but some things are hard to understand, such as, murphy definitely thinking and being a tiny bit scary...
I wasn't seeking validation before jumping in. My vote is on redcoyote, but I wasn't to draw people's attention to that comment because it seemed like a scum slip to me. Either other people think so too and we can vote for him, or there's an explanation that I am missing.In post 231, Hoppic wrote:Although I agree with your read, this again seems like you're feeling out the crowd and seeking validation before really jumping on it. I don't think I'm an authority in this game, and if you have a problem with something RC said, then why do I need to agree with you? Is there a reason other than more pressure on RC? There was no question from you in 227. Why didn't you just clearly outline the issue up front to him to potentially get his response instead?
I just picked a post at random so I could show you what I meant by not understanding. It wasn't just that post - it was all through the thread so far. Probably - I can't remember what was in the second part of the post - it was more straight forward, or maybe I felt that the first part was enough to show what I meant.In post 231, Hoppic wrote:One last thing: In post 231 you analyse the first part of Rasko's post 72. Then you have some revelation in post 233 about it. What made you chose this part (not the second half of 72) to analyze? How is this valuable to town?
What RVS vote? I was just asking Seth what he meant because I didn't know what he meant about Murphy sounding dangerous.In post 231, Hoppic wrote:The seth trane
You jump on the seth trane, but only after rasko, murph, alpaca, and yogurts. So it's a pretty safe bet this won't draw attention at this point right? You also agree with his RVS seeming forced in post 103. I don't think your RVS vote is any more or less forced, as you provided two distinct reasons for your RVS vote. What exactly do you think is forced in his post? What words or topics sound forced? What really bothers me is:In post 101, Hoppic wrote:
What do you mean about Murphy sounding dangerous? Dangerous how?In post 86, SethYazura wrote:My first post wasn't forced, it's not an attempt on humor either, I made it sound strange on purpose.
If we don't lynch Murph now, we are just going to lynch him later because of how dangerous he sounds.
How about we lynch him now and start from there.
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i just wanted more explanation of why people giving analysis of scum means they're town, and also I wasn't sure who he meant because everyone's given analysis of some kind already. The second question was about him deliberately seeming scummy, which is anti-town, and I was wondering why he was okay doing that.In post 231, Hoppic wrote:
The first question is ambiguous. I'm getting vibes here that you're asking how to be a better town. Only scum is concerned with pretending to be town. The second question though is way off. If the answer is yes, then what? If the answer is no, then what? How does this help town? Why did you ask this? It sounds like "does it bother you that you're town, your strategy is crap, and you will be lynched instead of me?"In post 127, Hoppic wrote:
Who do you mean and why do you think they're town?In post 125, SethYazura wrote:From what I've observed so far only the ppl who has made the analysis of scum so far are town.
Does it bother you that a lot of people see you as scummy?
Seth seems illogical and scummy, definitely. I'm okay to vote for him, but I've had experiences in the past of voting for people because they seem illogical and anti-town, and they flip town so I'm not certain. But yeah, seth and redcoyote are my top scumreads atm.In post 231, Hoppic wrote:Your very next post after 127 is 227. During this time the seth trane derailed and exploded into the "slayer's gambit" junk. And your first post is to step away from seth in fear, which continues in post 228 (Note that I'm not sure I would agree with what seth says in 244. I think the whole thing is WIFOM. Scum could do either; be scared, or wagon on). But when I ask about it you gave me this:
So if you don't believe the slayer gambit, then how do you explain seth being less of a read than RC? Why would a townie act like scum, and say he's doing the slayer's gambit and not be doing the slayer's gambit? How is that a worse read than what you have on RC?In post 232, Hoppic wrote:Nothing Seth has said has made any sense to me and he seems really anti-town. I think he's probably scum, but redcoyote is a stronger read right now.
No, the slayer gambit explanation makes no sense. If you were doing that, why would you say so? Everyone's voting this early in the game, and the votes are not too serious so it doesn't make sense for timing either.-
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So did you wonder the same thing? Or not?In post 203, RedCoyote wrote:
This strikes me as a town mindset. I guess because I think I would wonder the same thing as town.In post 117, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:Just wondering why would you vote someone without intent to lynch, I mean you have said that you think that he is the most scummy out of everyone and than you voted him because he doesn't have a vote yet but you don't have any intent to lynch him? Shouldn't voting for people be reserved for actually wanting to lynch them. Like its open to change the vote later but why vote without intent.-
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I don't like the way he cut out his own original words when he quoted me. I think a townie would be more likely to keep all the words in and do his best to explain them. Later he gave an explanation of why he used the phrasing, I THINK I WOULD wonder the same thing as town. But here, in his first attempt, he doesn't explain it at all.In post 263, RedCoyote wrote: ---
In what universe is this a scum slip? I was explaining why I considered that post to be town sounding. Had I not included that comment, I suspect you would've attacked me for being "too vague" and "not backing up my reasons", yeah?In post 227, Hoppic wrote:This is awkward phrasing. He would think the same thing as town, if he was town... rather than that he did think the same.
Seems like a scum slip to me.
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You've made some quite early assumptions about who you think is town. How are your assumptions different?In post 334, RedCoyote wrote:wgeurts has been on this website longer than you and ought to know better than to make such early assumptions. You may not be as aware of this.
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Yes, that would be good if you could explain why you don't like this list. Thanks.In post 386, wgeurts wrote:{wgeurts}
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I need not say anything about this post, if you don't see how it's dreadful then you're blind. If you insist I can guide you through it if you truly are so unfortunate.
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So far, you've explained why Seth's actions don't make sense to you. The thing is, they don't make sense as scum OR as town. So why do you think he's scum?-
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How can one player coast to lylo? This makes no sense. One vote isn't enough to do that and the game will change after the first flip whatever it is.In post 389, Simoyd wrote:In post 357, SethYazura wrote:What will you gain if I flip town?In post 351, Simoyd wrote:Can you imagine seth being around still hurting town on day two?
yupIn post 387, wgeurts wrote:I'm willing to policy lynch Seth due to that readslist alone, someone playing like that is going to coast to lylo and lose us the game.
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I don't. I'm leaning scum on him but I'm not sure.In post 406, Simoyd wrote:he still has almost a week to drop the ego if he chooses... If he's scum then he can't really choose to do that, because the motivations aren't ego.
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So why did you say, "i think I would wonder the same thing" if you knew you were wondering the same thing?In post 422, RedCoyote wrote:
Of course. I wouldn't have said it otherwise.In post 340, Hoppic wrote:So did you wonder the same thing? Or not?-
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Because I'm talking to other people, not myself. See, that's the difference between you and me. I don't speak like other people should believe/think the same way I do, which I find overbearingly manipulative and scummy. Perhaps you don't have a problem with it (clearly you don't since you're criticizing me for not dictating my thoughts as though I think they should be mandatory thoughts).In post 432, RedCoyote wrote:In post 429, Hoppic wrote:
So why did you say, "i think I would wonder the same thing" if you knew you were wondering the same thing?In post 422, RedCoyote wrote:
Of course. I wouldn't have said it otherwise.In post 340, Hoppic wrote:So did you wonder the same thing? Or not?
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Yes, and raskolnikov needs to come back and vote. But for me, nah, I just want to lynch redcoyote, or seth as a second choice.In post 479, Simoyd wrote:Is anyone else bothered by Kaladin lurking? Like closer to the start it was like, whatever. But now I'm really worried about it.
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yay let's be friends! None of this is personal. It's just mafia.In post 488, SethYazura wrote::\ we can be friends you know
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Yes, and raskolnikov needs to come back and vote. But for me, nah, I just want to lynch redcoyote, or seth as a second choice.In post 479, Simoyd wrote:Is anyone else bothered by Kaladin lurking? Like closer to the start it was like, whatever. But now I'm really worried about it.
What's your view on redcoyote?
If you're town and he knows you're going to flip town, then it makes sense to not be on the wagon. town cred. See, it seems really scummy to me that you didn't think of that.In post 488, SethYazura wrote::I'm not the one being asked here, but I have to tell you the reason RedCoyote isn't scum,
RedCoyote isn't scum because he didn't push to lynch me when he has the perfect opporrtunity to do so without drawing suspicion on himself, same if in the situation that I am scum and he's my scum partner, he can just bus me and get away with it.
Why are you even considering the possibility of you being scum? It just makes it seem so conclusive that you and redcoyote are both scum. The only part that makes me nervous is that it's too obvious.-
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No, I'm ready to wrap up the day. Let's not drag it out. We could vote for seth or redcoyote. Can you explain why you prefer seth?In post 490, Simoyd wrote:I just don't understand how people see town there...-
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Yes, please do explain.In post 645, wgeurts wrote:Also quoting over half the player-list and saying there's likely one scum in there is a bit silly, as that's basic probability theory which I can show you if you insist. Also I literally stated I think both scum are on separate wagons as I stated I think KS and Hoppic are scum, Hoppic is the worst of the twoand the one I'm more confident in seeing flip read.as I'll explain-
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Why do you have a strong town read on those two?In post 656, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:Ok so briefly looking back I am starting to think that Kal is most likely scum here since, as we looked at before he has not posted a lot throughout the game which is ok I suppose for certain reasons but he says that he isn't posting a lot because he doesn't want to be seen as scum by mimicking what other people think since he has basically the same opinions as everyone else. He than says that he will try and post more before others post his same thoughts. However, aside from when directly asked he never really comes out and says anything, and it's not like he is gone when everyone is posting since in post 187 when Rask mentions he is in prod range he basically instantly responds. Multiple people has suggested that he post more and he has yet to do so, and aside from 2 posts all of his posts have been max like 2 sentences. In one of his more recent posts 521 he says that his thoughts haven't changed except slightly more of a scum read on Hoppic though he still thinks that he is town. I am seeing a lurking scum attempting to lay low and coast making an occasional post to dodge prods.
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I think that that other scum was for sure on the Seth wagon and the people on that wew (Simoyd, wgeurts, AlpacaAlpaca, Rask, Hoppic)
Counting out Sim RIP and myself, that means we have Wgeurts, Rask, and Hoppicand so I am seeing Hoppic as scum buddies with Kal, but I am much more focused on Kal right now so thats where my vote goes.and I am strong town reading both Wgeurts and Rask-
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^here you seem to be saying that both wgeurts and rask are experienced enough to fake town effectively. Has your opinion changed?In post 166, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:Ok so I see why you are saying and it makes sense for most players in this game however both wgeurts and Raskolnikov are experienced and may have planned on posting a many detailed posts to get people to think exactly what you are thinking now. If they were both newbies I could accept your logic but both have experience.-
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There's two possibilities: that redcoyote is scum or that he's town.In post 657, RedCoyote wrote:
tl;dr = There should be one scum on and one scum off the Seth wagon. If you accept this, we should lynch either Murph or KS today.
Suppose he's town. There were two wagons yesterday - on Seth and redcoyote, and if both were town that would be great for scum. I think they would much prefer to lynch redcoyote over Seth because of his experience, and so they would be unlikely to be voting for Seth if both are town.
There was me, Murphy, Kaladin and Raskolnikov on redcoyote. So strong FOS on those three IF he's town. But then Raskolnikov switched to Seth, so i guess he would be null. So it makes sense that RC wants to vote for Kaladin and Murphy right now.-
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On the other hand, suppose that redcoyote is scum. In that case, it's very likely that the other scum hopped on the Seth wagon, especially after redcoyote was at L1. Nobody did hop on then, so if he is scum, then the other scum was very likely already there which means that scum would be wgeurts or alpacaalpaca.
That's assuming that scum behave in ways I would expect them to, which is a big assumption.
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That's not helpful to town, though. You seem to be just cruising in the background and not scum hunting, which makes you seem scummy. If you're town, the more you post the more obvious that will be.In post 658, KaladinStormblessed wrote: I'm naturally more of a lurker, and see little point in making a post that reiterates the same things I or others already said, and day one, there wasn't much I saw that others hadn't already observed. I'm not going to waste time BSing a wall of text of reasons when they're very similar to ones already stated.
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You mean do the opposite? Lol. Yeah I already thought of that.
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HiiiiIn post 689, RadiantCowbells wrote:Join me, and together, we can rule this galaxy as father and son.
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Yeah yeah I'm all for that. It's just that my head is empty. I feel really unwell. But I'm okay saying random stuff like this. Will it help though?In post 697, Murph wrote:Without conversation and open discussion we do not afford ourselves the opportunity to scrutinize.
I'm skeptical of those who tend to avoid direct conversation and only contribute minimally. Town folk should be marching about with pitchforks and torches not hiding in the shadows of mommy's skirts.-
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Murphy for example could be scum. That pitchfork speech would be easy for scum to make. That beverage shtick. Scum could do that. He comes out strongly. Could be deliberate. Idk. How to tell? I've really got no idea.In post 697, Murph wrote:Without conversation and open discussion we do not afford ourselves the opportunity to scrutinize.
I'm skeptical of those who tend to avoid direct conversation and only contribute minimally. Town folk should be marching about with pitchforks and torches not hiding in the shadows of mommy's skirts.-
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Lol. But of course it's forced. I'm for ing myself to participate even though I've got nothing to say. I said that. I don't want to get bumped again.In post 700, Murph wrote:In post 695, Hoppic wrote:Oy. I said something else but it didn't post ..
I was worried that everyone would be suspicious because I expressed weakness like that other time when I said I didn't understand. But no. I'm like that. My life is one long whine of inadequacy.
There's a place for some non-game related posts, however with that said, if that is the only contribution it looks forced as in just trying to participate without actually doing so.
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I have a friend who always says, Oh no, I can hear the Should in that.In post 701, Murph wrote:By this time everyone should have had time to evaluate all of D1 and if necessary reassess previous D1 notions and now should be ready to contribute.-
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