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Morning everyone, That Black wagon...
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second game back after a lay off from the game. Last game I think during that earlier period was 2018, and I didn't play as Afrayed Knott then I was Smudger.In post 27, Cometbright wrote: That being said I think I'm passing out pretty early tonight - cats kept waking me up cause I made the foolish mistake of giving them treats before bed and man did I come to regret that.
Looking forward to the last half of us entering the game - please let us know your levels of experience when you arrive! Direct experience with Mafiascum or other Forum Mafias, indirect experience via other deception games etc. all is helpful to know and gives a framework to work withYou're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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Because it stuck out. Seemed strange.In post 59, Aneninen wrote: Catching-up.
Cometbright.
Irrelevant fluff about past games. Generally "trying to be nice" style. Trying to pocket Black.
Lean scum
Black.
Similar to Comet. Popping in, not voting in RVS, then OMGUS-ing me. Not as "trying to be nice" as Comet.
Lean scum- or bad town.
Python.
Forking shirt, I remember this type of player. Vote-hopping, contradicting themselves (e.g., #31 and #32, sorry, I forgot how to link a post), voting then obv-towning Gimli etc...
Lean town- Years ago, these players gotlynchedeliminated early and usually flipped town.
Dragon.
What the actual fork was that #25? Voting Black and pointing out that it was E-2? Besides that, nothing special.
Null- if Black flips scum, Dragon can be scum, too, but it's too early to speculate.
Timmer.
A newer player with a lot of questions. If he had a scumbuddy, he'd have been given answers in their chat. Therefore,
Town
Kittiesecret.
Another newer player, she could go either way.
Null
Gimli.In post 42, Gimli wrote: ARE YOU MASONSSpoiler:
Why are you interested in whether there are Masons in the game?
Also, leaning town on Black because of her interaction with Comet, but no reaction on Comet. Asking Dragon to talk about Python then withdrawing it. Somehow, everything from him looks scummy.
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AfraydKnott.
Why were you reacted so to the Black wagon? Why weren't you reacting on anything else?
Lean Scum
I don’t care if you lean scum on me. I play scummy all the time even when town. Which you’d be surprise to hear that I am. So lean away.
Oh and what’s scummy about not liking a vote? Please explain? In full so I can understand your reasoning, if there is any.
How did you get so many reads so early on?
For me it’s far too early to actually get a read on anyone.
FYI everyone - My TZ is GMT plus 4, so I’m playing when the majority of you are asleep, or about to wake up. As far as I can tell anyway..You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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Seemed opportunistic to me. When I read it
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VOTE: TimmerRC
I’m not defensive at all. But I don’t like you right now.You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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Everyone does. That’s why I got lim’d early my first game back. I don’t mess around I am direct blunt and to the point. And can often be read as scummy. But that is because I’m ex Mil and have a different outlook on life. So just believe In m town and I love treading on egg shells.You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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You mean you don’t care? Why include the rest of us in that ‘we’? Of course it all depends on which ‘we’ you are referring to…. Is that a reasonable assumption?You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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That’s in response to Python at 99You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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I just clocked who VIP is... duh. I've been reading posts trying to figure out what the hell VIP stands for. I love pigeons... generally lightly roasted over a camp fire....You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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You might want to reread me. Where do I say you are town? I say I am. I have no clue what you are. Other than weak votingIn post 112, Aneninen wrote:
How horrible that town-locking will be if one of them is scum... (Even more horrible if both!)In post 70, DragonEater70 wrote:
That's not fair, you know I have a weakness for people townlocking me. Now IIn post 65, Gimli wrote: I didn't want to townlock DE but life is shorthaveto townlock you back. How dare you!
In post 73, Black wrote: fwiw I decided to pocket Comet when I signed up to the game. This feels like a good thought progression thoughHow horrible that town-locking will be if one of them is scum... (Even more horrible if both!)
Why was that Black wagon strange? Who was opportunistic there?In post 77, Afrayed Knott wrote: I don’t care if you lean scum on me. I play scummy all the time even when town. Which you’d be surprise to hear that I am. So lean away.
Oh and what’s scummy about not liking a vote? Please explain? In full so I can understand your reasoning, if there is any.
Why should I lean away if you appear to be scummy?
But, most importantly... "Which you'd be surprise to hear that I am"... so you actually KNOW that I'm town???
There were reasons for my reads. When there isn't a lot to catch-up, I try to read everything and draw some conclusions. I'm not saying that I'm right, most players seem to think that I'm mostly wrong now, but even early reads generate reactions. Which tell me much more about the players than fluffing around.In post 77, Afrayed Knott wrote: How did you get so many reads so early on?
For me it’s far too early to actually get a read on anyone.
I saw games when those RVS wagons helped the scum rolefish... (Even on Page1!!!)In post 79, Black wrote: I didn't really get that vibe. I don't think anyone is ever in danger of getting faded in RVS
That VIP is new for me. I used to be things like "Anenninin", even "Adenine" (by RadiantCowbells), or, obviously "That pigeon guy".In post 80, TimmerRC wrote: Ok, my coffee hasn't kicked in yet and it took way too long to figure out that VIP is Aneninen.
I don't know the site meta either.
However, the most important question: why aren't you voting?
How's it possible that you have no Em-pool? (Lim-pool? What's it call nowadays?) With this, you told the same thing as someone else'd told, but... literally 2 pages before!In post 84, Cometbright wrote:
Agree with this, no one in this group is in my limpool for today.In post 34, usesPython wrote: We're not getting any of that neutral "this is scum" energy from anyone posting here
No but on a completely different topic does anyone want to attend my bricklaying seminar?In post 42, Gimli wrote: ARE YOU MASONS
Also, what sort of answer was that for that mason question?
A perfect example for posting something without posting anything.In post 86, Kittiesecret wrote: Oof a lot of early morning players in here. Y'all have been busy reading bees this morning.
(makes note to set aside time in the morning routine for reading)
overall lots of good points, mental notes are being made... withholding judgement until I have a better feel for the game.
*always watching*
Now, that's an opportunistic vote.In post 88, Kittiesecret wrote: I dunno we will have to wait and see seems everyone is leaning town on Gimli, but is that what he wants us to think?
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Besides, why do you care what Gimli wants from us to think?
Why do I need to have a vote? I thought it was my prerogative to use my vote when and where I feel best to place it.
My first vote was reactionary and to be frank part of my RVS as all of you had had mostly a real day length to get going on this. My second vote as I felt Tmmer was being rather incorrect on their read. I then removed my vote when the wagon stared to role.
I don’t accept your explaination on your read list. It’s rather weak. Especially when if you really dont have an idea why post it. Why not wait until you have a better read on the game. For one right now everyone is reading me as scummy wrong, of course notwithstanding my own submission on my play style. But heck if it gives you something to beat your chest about go for it.
Possibly try not br be so selective in the reads of those you vote for. You might have noticed my post about being scummy regardless of my alignment.You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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Thats based on your obvious lean to me being scum, nothing to do with what I know about you. this is straw clutching 101In post 126, Aneninen wrote: This.
"I play scummy all the time even when town. Which you’d be surprise to hear that I am. So lean away."
It may be only me, but it sounds as if you knew my alignment.You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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wow, keep digging, No, Timmer placed a vote on me, again nothing to do with you. Again read before you jump in with both feet. And why do I NEED to have a vote in place. Any chance you want to answer that question as I have asked you before.In post 126, Aneninen wrote: Wait-oh. You voted Timmer because of being incorrect? You consider my reads incorrect, aren't you? And you're not voting either for me or for Timmer? Actually, you're not voting at all. Besides, if thinking that having incorrect reads were scummy, about 3 players would be voting for me right now.
What you're saying doesn't add up.You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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then say why, because you don't. yes reactions to a list could be indicative, either way. they are not just one sided.In post 126, Aneninen wrote: I do have idea why I'm posting it. For example, reactions to a list can be indicativeYou're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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by reading, you obviously are skimming and not really reading.In post 126, Aneninen wrote: How exactly should I have noticed that?
BTW we have played together before in my last incarnation on this siteYou're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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I did during my rant with the BirdIn post 125, DragonEater70 wrote: Knott:
I know I already OMGUSed, but do you care to explain the vote on me? I thought it was RVS earlier but now it looks more like a serious vote so I'd like to have it explained.
(I know I'm kinda late because you switched to TImmer, but I haven't read the last 2 pages yet so you'll have to excuse my slowness)You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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oh I love pressure.. I also like playing this way....In post 129, usesPython wrote: Knott seems like the type of player that doesn't handle pressure well and just ends up in a feedback loop of looking scummier and scummier regardless of their actual alignmentYou're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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you have, when I was SmudgerIn post 142, Aneninen wrote: Have you got experience with Knott? Or is it a kind of Miss Marple tell?You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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I have explained this. My vote on TimmerRC was mostly reactionary to the comment on meIn post 151, Black wrote: Why did you unvote here?You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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In post 175, TimmerRC wrote: Afrayed's self-aware chatter being a minor exceptionIn post 89, TimmerRC wrote: Afrayed and Gimli seemed oddly defensive in tone in replying to people's thoughts against themIn post 89, TimmerRC wrote: both Afrayed and Gimli seemed oddly defensive in tone in replying to people's thoughts against them considering it is all fluffy early game stuff.
You seem very absorbed in this campaign, and its pretty repetitive. Of course the worst thing I could possibly do is defend Gimli, but I'm not, as I have no idea about him, other than in the last game I played with him, which is ongoing so I can't really go there at the moment. Then of course if I say anything to refute your comments you could turn that around and say, "see defensive". But its strange that only after 4 posts you feel I am being defensive. Maybe ask yourself why that might be, maybe it might be based on what I have said previously. Anyway, don't want to hang around trying to divert this attention away from me and towards others, as I can see what it is doing now. I am just playing into scums hands. and it doesn't help town at all. So that's where I am now.In post 173, TimmerRC wrote: Afrayed in 117 he is just very absorbed about how he is being perceived in this game and working hard to define himself for us/to suggest that we see him as he wants us to see him, which I don't love
For what it is worth I'm not comfortable with Kittie right now, or you to be honest, and Comet.
And VIP I think is town. even with my attacks on him. also in my town drawer are Black and Dragon. The rest I am still trying to decide. Yeah Yeah Yeah I know "its indicative" for scum to not have a great read list... but hey I'm notYou're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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But reading Python is a little strange for me, like who is actually talking and how does this "we" work. Am I right is now understanding that there is more than one person on the other end of that keyboard?You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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VOTE: usesPython
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I cant link to it as the account is closed. at least I cant access it.In post 195, Aneninen wrote: I've read all the other things you wrote, but right now, this is the most important.You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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having carried out a search - we have played in quiet a few games together
Open 627 and Open 724
Project ELO
The Road to Rome
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Back, will read later. Have a busy day at workYou're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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Right, just finished reading, and its a lot to take in. I will get to individual posts where I have a comment shortly.
In my post 190 I stated to Timmer that
In post 190, Afrayed Knott wrote: I'm not comfortable with Kittie right now, or you to be honest, and Comet
I also stated
In post 190, Afrayed Knott wrote: And VIP I think is town. even with my attacks on him. also in my town drawer are Black and Dragon
Based on what I am reading now my thoughts haven’t changed much, with one exception. I like DE’s post at 251, 257 and 356. I continued to feel a town vibe on VIP until I read 210. He states in that post, no actually drips with self gratification
In post 210, Aneninen wrote: Nightkilling everyone else who was scumread by the townies and whined about it until I won (as scum),when I so blatantly overdid the "look how town I am"
Made me rethink tbf, my thought was, ok do we trust him?
I read the whole fake hammer section of the weekend posts and how the attention turn to Gimli after his reaction. My thought immediately on reading his post was that was false and maybe a little too over reactive.
So for me the initial feel towards Timmer, Kittie and Comet remains in place, and I am not fully convinced by my town read on VIP. The feeling towards Timmer and Kittie is more to do with their scant content, but Commet is not floating my boat. I just don’t get a good vibe from the posts.
Gimli was really null until that reaction to the faked Hammer but not sure on that at all.
I still like Black and Dragon as Town, and now that I have read back I feel Python is adding more to the game.
I know Python you asked me here
In post 201, usesPython wrote:I just double-checked our posts, I disagree. Can you go more into this?
And my initial response would have been “ I will read through what's gone on over the weekend and if it needs me to, I will get back to you on this. I will also reread your ISO to see why I thought that.” But I have done that and yeah, I was not correct.
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Ok, but this is only my second game back, and like you after a 5 year break or so, So I can’t see my style changing that much, Still trying to find a rhythm.In post 203, Aneninen wrote:
Checked.In post 198, Afrayed Knott wrote: having carried out a search - we have played in quiet a few games together
Open 627 and Open 724
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viewtopic.php?t=65184&hilit=smudger+Aneninen&start=25 This is the scum day chat - you are scum and NK me
In Mexican Standoff, your posting style was entirely different. But you replaced out.
In the Newbie, it was somewhat similar to this game, but you were more interrogative and less defensive. However, in that game I was scum so it may be only in my mind.
Most importantly, your gameplay may have changed a lot since then.
That doesn't convince me that you're town, but okay, let's assume for a short while that I'm wrong about you.
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VOTE: KittieSecret
See my reasons in 193
So do you find that your style has changed after your break?You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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that about describes 90% of those unfortunates who pull the scum card.In post 219, Aneninen wrote: "Ugh, I drew scum. What to do now? Maybe I could have a nice style and try hard to look town and I could get away with that."
Yes, if work is slowIn post 229, DragonEater70 wrote: Do you mainly play in the morning? Because I would assume that if you play in the evening I (UTC+2) and Comet (UTC+1 IIRC) would also be awake, at leastYou're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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Whoever scum are. My point is, I'm too busy yelling at people and defending myself, which makes me scummy in peoples mind, or that is how I see it. So at this moment in time I thought, stop being a prick as scum will just coast on you and your lim'd D1. that was my thought.In post 230, DragonEater70 wrote: Who is the scum into whose hands are you playing? I didn't fully understand thisYou're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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In post 267, Cometbright wrote: Limpool-wise... right now I've got Timmer, Kittie and Knott. I can potentially be okay with a VIP vote? My hesitation is because his playstyle seems to be based on 2014 days and rather than it being scummy it might just be... how forum mafia was played back then.
What did I do to fall off your list… between these two posts. I haven’t posted in all until now. Or are you completing someone else’s list?In post 305, Cometbright wrote: Python, Black, Dragon, Gimli makes 4.You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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In post 267, Cometbright wrote: Limpool-wise... right now I've got Timmer, Kittie and Knott. I can potentially be okay with a VIP vote? My hesitation is because his playstyle seems to be based on 2014 days and rather than it being scummy it might just be... how forum mafia was played back then.
What did I do to fall off your list… between these two posts. I haven’t posted in all until now. Or are you completing someone else’s list?In post 305, Cometbright wrote: Python, Black, Dragon, Gimli makes 4.You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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The more I read the more the only clear choice for me is one of Kittie, Timmer or Comet. Where to place my vote becomes an issue for me and it seemed to be an issue for VIP for sometime also. I'm still in two minds on this. he does talk a good talk, like a few others here. in fact Comet Dragon and VIP seem to very good at long posts extolling how the game should be played or how scum or town does this or that. I have read them and find some of the posts very interesting. In Dragons posts I noted the following comment to myself "lots of content and some questions but I don't see them pushing anyone or being helpful". And then I still get a good vibe. VIP has been doing the same thing but he has changed in his content as the game has progressed, he seems to be under pressure, why? Not sure. But then is he trying to swing us in his towniness or is it all a bluff and part of his self proclaimed brilliance at faking town when scum. So based on that:
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To answer you yes. To point one above, but I didn’t complete my thought process. I should have gone on to say that there is no one pushing those three atm and so I will wait to see where that goes. Therefore I remain focused on you.In post 398, Aneninen wrote: *"Am I representing you right if I interpret your..."
Sorry, I was paying attention to something else meanwhile
Now in point 2 you say I am miss- quoting you. Well no. I read all you had to say and take up the other points you have included as examples of your play. But it was that one line that stuck.You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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Ok got it, so I’m still on your list?In post 399, Cometbright wrote:
...? What? When did you fall of my list?In post 392, Afrayed Knott wrote: What did I do to fall off your list… between these two posts. I haven’t posted in all until now. Or are you completing someone else’s list?
Python, Black, Dragon and Gimli were the people who voted for Anen/VIP during the fake hammer.You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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That’s because I don’t complete my thought process in that post. I have now aboveIn post 401, Cometbright wrote:
I'm confused about how you start a post with this and end it with voting outside it.In post 395, Afrayed Knott wrote: The more I read the more the only clear choice for me is one of Kittie, Timmer or Comet.You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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Python is more town right now based on my re-readIn post 417, DragonEater70 wrote: (there used to be a post here saying I kinda want to vote Knott but then I saw Python complaining)
K let's vibe!
I think Comet and Python are townie.
Do you agree Mr. Knott?
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In post 407, Afrayed Knott wrote:In post 398, Aneninen wrote: *"Am I representing you right if I interpret your..."
Sorry, I was paying attention to something else meanwhileTo answer you yes. To point one above, but I didn’t complete my thought process. I should have gone on to say that there is no one pushing those three atm and so I will wait to see where that goes. Therefore I remain focused on you.
Now in point 2 you say I am miss- quoting you. Well no. I read all you had to say and take up the other points you have included as examples of your play. But it was that one line that stuck.
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is it? or is it opportunistic? So no I dont think that's wrong at allIn post 425, DragonEater70 wrote:
Wrong!In post 423, Afrayed Knott wrote: Comet no
Comet's vote on you is townvibe.
Try again.You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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No I feel that about you, at the posts I have listed above 251, 257 and 356. lots of content but its all pretty much IMO as I have stated - blah blahIn post 408, DragonEater70 wrote:
Okay this post makes me completely rescind my townread on Knott.In post 395, Afrayed Knott wrote: The more I read the more the only clear choice for me is one of Kittie, Timmer or Comet. Where to place my vote becomes an issue for me and it seemed to be an issue for VIP for sometime also. I'm still in two minds on this. he does talk a good talk, like a few others here. in fact Comet Dragon and VIP seem to very good at long posts extolling how the game should be played or how scum or town does this or that. I have read them and find some of the posts very interesting. In Dragons posts I noted the following comment to myself "lots of content and some questions but I don't see them pushing anyone or being helpful". And then I still get a good vibe. VIP has been doing the same thing but he has changed in his content as the game has progressed, he seems to be under pressure, why? Not sure. But then is he trying to swing us in his towniness or is it all a bluff and part of his self proclaimed brilliance at faking town when scum. So based on that:
VOTE: VIP
What the actual duck.
Knott when did I do "lots of content and some questions but not pushing anyone or being helpful"? Or are you saying I said that about you? Because I didn't
Also I didn't get how your thought process went from kittie/Timmer/Comet to VIP.You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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because of my stupidity at not finishing my train of thought and fully explaining why my vote went on VIP and not her or the other two. I feel she has picked up on that, well she has picked up on the comments made by others about it.In post 429, DragonEater70 wrote: Why do you think it's opportunistic?
Well by VIP, as her vote comes in after his question, actually her comment on it then the vote comes after you yourself raise a question on it, so opportunistic to sway the vote. IMO. and she would seem to be defensive of VIP, her town read?You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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Yes I started reading and making notes long before I posted those posts, I looked through all the the posts during the weekend period and copied out the quotes to Word then added my thoughts to them , I then posted them into the thread. Why?In post 432, Cometbright wrote:
Not wrong but also maths/statistics is the strongest tool I have at this point in the game so I'm willing to use it. That and the fact it felt like the VIP vote was added on at the end as like a 'okay I had this post already written out but I see now that the current leading wagon is VIP and VIP isn't me or my scum partner so I'm totally happy to try and push this wagon to end day 1 with a misexecute so I'm just going to tack on a VIP vote at the end of it'. It seems even more likely when you note the timestamps (#388-#393) cause it shows a lot of it has been written up before and then posted all at once so the idea of then tacking on something at the end of it seems to make sense to me?In post 424, DragonEater70 wrote: Also I disagree on the E-1 thing cause the scum could be inactive or afraid to vote, or just hiding in the shadows
because I find it easier to read and respond as I go, but then that I have found is problematic in that you may be responding and posting as you go but the conversation has moved on, or the point is moot, and so I spent over an hour this evening doing just that
Your use of the time stamps to convince yourself that you argument is true is rather weak and frankly incorrect.You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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I made a mistake in not finishing my train of thought, I think your vote was opportunistic yes, I found you scummy before your voteIn post 441, Cometbright wrote:
So you agree that you made a mistake/error but think I'm scummy for voting you because of it?In post 438, Afrayed Knott wrote: because of my stupidity at not finishing my train of thought and fully explaining why my vote went on VIP and not her or the other two. I feel she has picked up on that, well she has picked up on the comments made by others about it.You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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there is no way I can prove or disprove this, but it is a genuine statement on my part. If you feel its not then why don' t we use your timestamp comparison------ all my pre prepared posts hit the thread at the 55 to 58 minute to the hour point in time. My vote post occurred at the 11 minute past the hour mark, so some 13 minutes...In post 433, Cometbright wrote:
I appreciate this but there's always going to be a bit of suspicion of 'was this actually intended to be there from the start or is this an addition written later after people have raised issues with it?'In post 426, Afrayed Knott wrote: In response to the confusion I have caused in people's minds, this is what is missing from my post prior to voting, I've bolded it for clarityYou're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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Yes, and I am not sure, what reason do I have to trust you?In post 446, Cometbright wrote:
So you think I was capitalising on a mistake you made by voting you over it? Would it have been more townie in your eyes for me to ignore/not mention the mistake?In post 444, Afrayed Knott wrote: I made a mistake in not finishing my train of thought, I think your vote was opportunistic yes, I found you scummy before your voteYou're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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anyway, I am retiring for the night as it in almost 11pm hereYou're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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Now I have had to sleep on it and understand that it was late evening for me during my last posts here. So maybe a hard day at work preparing knowledge checks and then the late night was not a good combination to try to think clearly.
So having read what has transpired here since my last post I do acknowledge and accept why Dragon and Comet have picked up on on my reactions and more pointedly my posts and deemed them scummy. But there is a flip side to the argument as I see it, when you consider it was my side of the argument. I'm not discounting the theory presented around why town Comet would react the way in which she did, but then how would scum Comet react? I'm not sure, as I have very little to go on her. What is her play style like as both town and scum? And having never played her before how could I be held up for not trusting her. Although yes the reasoning is sound, for example in the light of day (literally) most would pick it up, I would too, but regardless of alignment. So why wouldn't a player with experience not pick it up regardless of which camp they sit in?
There is one other thing here that erks me greatly, I have had a scum vibe from Comet for a while and her presence on my list has nothing whatsoever to do with her vote on me. Which I am still of the opinion that if you look at the timings of 1. her picking up on my screw up and 2. Her actual vote, it seems opportunistic as Dragon comes into the chat in between these two actions with his "what the duck" reaction to my vote post. But then you would have to line that up with where her alignment is, and regardless of the fact that a town Comet might pick it up, I firmly believe a scum Comet would too.You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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This I just don't get, why would you lim someone as they are a hard read, you are a hard read to me, as are most as I am fairly new to the game, even if you count my last forage into it. To me the only reason I can possibly come up with as to why you would say this is I might be close to the truth with regards to your alignment. I ask anyone, in particular those new to in the game, to tell me they aren't truly struggling to read the more experienced here?In post 465, Cometbright wrote: I dunno, maybe I'm being too harsh/laser-focused here? It's not like we have anything really that strong to go off so this combined with the statistics I mentioned in #419 and the fact that Knott is going to be a hard read this game makes me comfortable with a vote on him.
Open to people picking apart my case here though - would appreciate others inputs whether it's criticism or agreement.You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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POE? might explain why I get lim'd D1 a lot, which is demoralising and frustrating.You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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Is it ok to point at current games to help people get a read on me?You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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Found it, POE, Now I understand.You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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thought not, that's why I removed the link to it from my Signature before I got into this gameIn post 475, usesPython wrote: Do not reference ongoing gamesYou're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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is Tim a true read or because LHF?You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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about sums up my feeling, lol that's sheeping right? I've just scummed all over myself again haven't I?In post 481, usesPython wrote: I legitimately think Tim has a pretty good chance of flipping red when you take into account both their play and the gamestate. Lot's of headnod without townvibes being in the background type posting in a game where no one has any real scumreads and people keep walling explains a lot about how we got hereYou're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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but that is the part that sticks with me. its not a misquote. And I believe I have said that I recognise the rest of the post, so no I disagree, Your words are such that it says to me we cannot trust you. Do you deny that you have said that you played scum and yet won because you were blatantly over doing the look how town I am? you're words not mine.In post 488, Aneninen wrote: which you commented like this (before your quote):You're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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I wouldn't say you were a terrible player, but then what would I know. I'm not exactly up there with the top scum hunters , but yes that is scummy of you, only because you have something in your crop about me.In post 488, Aneninen wrote: I know most of you think I'm a terrible player, but this is blatantly scummy for meYou're Scummy! I'm Afrayed Knott..
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