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Hello all!
@data vla on fridays/saturdays
(And sporadically till the end of the holiday weekend as well)
VOTE: redcardinalShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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*i meant to write i like 20 >.>ShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Plz see next postShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Did you not read the next post?ShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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I actually didnt notice the IC post until now.In post 31, Val89 wrote:
Not the vote - the post. It is an attempt at a fake dumb tell. Are you trying to get a read on the author of post 6 from the RVS posting here?In post 22, skitter30 wrote:@val why is the vote a scumclaim ?
I say it's fake rather than genuine, as KT seems to suggest, because of KTs vote/unvote. Scoliosis trying to draw 3 reads (and two scum ones at that) from the RVS shit posting that went on before post 20 screams 'try harding', but if you a seriously try harding, do you serious think KT moving their vote around is something less AI than two "Hi <vote>" posts, and not bother looking into that?
We know KT was shit posting because Toto is IC, but Scoliosis is trying to dumb tell they didn't notice and need to give a read on post 6 - its internally inconsistent.
I agree that all of scoliosis' conclusions are based on very little, but I think the fact that they *tried* to create content at this stage is very townie - it moves the game out of RVS, and I find that very +town
I don't think the conclusions are meant to be very *firm* or like taken as fact, but rather trying to move the game along by throwing out *some* sort of statement and seeing what happens
That being said, i like this post from you
VOTE: hertaShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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What do you think of my vote on you?In post 39, Herta wrote:Nah there's no sane reason to over-analyze this unless you're tryharding yourself.ShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Scoliosis is obviously town and i'm starting to scumread youIn post 45, KittyTacky wrote:My Scoliosis townread is kinda eroding ngl. The last 2 posts just seem to be looking to be made to start an early push (it's 2 pages in) on pretty flimsy reasoning.ShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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I didn't see itIn post 51, innocentvillager wrote:How did you guys miss the IC post it was right there
And hello! Been a whileShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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I dont get, or like, the church wagon
I think we should be wagoning herta or kittytackyShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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If you make a statement like 'by meta i don't think kitty's scum', i would expect you to be able to elaborate a bit more on itIn post 71, Herta wrote:That's all I got
Why did you say that you don't think he's scum?ShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Oh dear >.> i'm sorry to hear thatIn post 75, innocentvillager wrote:
Hello how’s your foot? Mines still fuckedIn post 66, skitter30 wrote:
I didn't see itIn post 51, innocentvillager wrote:How did you guys miss the IC post it was right there
And hello! Been a while
mine was p painful to walk on for a few months but has been all healed for a while nowShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Yes, i think that's very townieIn post 78, innocentvillager wrote:Trying to create content in RVS counts as obviously town? Man I gotta try that next time
+ you can tell he's thinking abt the game and trying to understand how other people are trying to solve it (or not)
Do you think he's scummy or just don't particularly believe he's townie ?ShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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@herta i was going to ask the exact question but i continued reading and saw toto did and didnt see a point in asking it twice
But when you didnt really explain when toto asked you (71) i decided to ask 74
Usually when someone says something like 'i don't think x is scum by meya' i expect them to (be able to) follow up that statement with a sentence or two of an explanation explaining their reasoning and how they got to that conclusion
You've made the claim, the onus is on you to back it up, not on me to start reading old kitty games
I don't have any particular reason to disbelieve that statement, but i don't have any reason to believe it either, and i want to know why you made it
And i asked cuz i was curious if you had any thoughts on itShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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IndeedIn post 84, innocentvillager wrote:Can't tell if I'm just confbiased because I want to believe I've made any remote progress in my reads though. I feel like regardless of your alignment Scoliosis is +town here though.
They're one of the only townreads i've got so farShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Ig i'm not sure how you can tell he's displaying these traits at this pointIn post 93, Herta wrote:Every game I've played with kitty that he's been reasonably engaged and stick-to-his-guns as in going deep on a hunch and apparent genuine curiosity he's been town.
Why weren't you willing to answer this question before?ShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Usually people have some sort of response when they get voted, and you didn'tIn post 95, Herta wrote:
When you can.In post 85, Herta wrote:Why did you ask me what I thought of you voting me? I haven't seen a follow-up to that yet and it seemed kinda important to you at the time?
Was trying to see how you'd react as wellShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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In post 98, KittyTacky wrote:
I just felt like on a re-read his arguments felt like bad faith pushes.In post 81, skitter30 wrote:
Yes, i think that's very townieIn post 78, innocentvillager wrote:Trying to create content in RVS counts as obviously town? Man I gotta try that next time
+ you can tell he's thinking abt the game and trying to understand how other people are trying to solve it (or not)
Do you think he's scummy or just don't particularly believe he's townie ?
What makes them badfaith?In post 99, KittyTacky wrote:Fairly easy to fake this "towntell" as scum imo.
And a few people indicated that they hadn't seen the ic post, including myself. Are all of them scummy? If not, why is scoliosis?ShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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In post 103, geraintm wrote:
Naughty point. Didn't like your stream of postsIn post 67, skitter30 wrote:I dont get, or like, the church wagon
I think we should be wagoning herta or kittytackyWould love to hear more abt both of these
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'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Idk why people think church is scummyIn post 111, Freedom wrote:
Can you expand on this?In post 67, skitter30 wrote:I dont get, or like, the church wagon
I think we should be wagoning herta or kittytacky
I think herta is scummy
I don't like kittytacky's scoliosis push - i don't get how he lost the initial townread so fast, especially since it partially seems based on scoliosis 'not ressponding to kittytacky's question' when he hasnt posted at all since 20, it's not like scoliosis is avoiding kittytacky in particular
Like ig i'm kinda confused how kittytacky can start off liking 20 and then move to disliking it when other people find it scummy without scoliosis posting anything in betweenShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Heya unwnd, been a minuteIn post 114, unwnd wrote:Also hello skitter/dann/IVShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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I ... am not even sure how to approach this fully as i don't think they're similar at allIn post 128, unwnd wrote:Could you give a contrast between Herta/Church? I think their posting style is actually similar
Herta - i felt a lot of fluffiness/wishy-washyness/agreeing-to-agree in early posts like 33, 34, 35, bandwagon-y church vote, statements that they didn't seen willing (or able) to back up (like the kitty townread off of meta), and the whole 'i don't want to answer these questions' thing
Church - thought 40 was fine, don't love that they've mostly interacted with their wagon thus far and want to see what their content looks like when they come back
Pedit oh dear i hope you find it >.>
Can you explain 137 again plz? Why did you not want to answer the question because you were in a 1v1, and how does him being ic change that?ShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Seems kinda self-centered, i.e. only focusing on the things in the game that are abt them, and nothing else (i.e. like scumhunting)In post 145, innocentvillager wrote:Re: Church I don’t feel the interacting with people on wagon part is scummy. If I’m being attacked my instinct is to fight back and interact with the people who are interacting with me. Why is it scummy?
It doesnt make them scum, but is worth calling outShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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In post 148, unwnd wrote:I don't think her gripes were tone-related at all?
1. They didnt post again at all tho, why are u treating that like they were ignoring you?In post 149, KittyTacky wrote:
1. The val push is unexplained and they ignored my question completely, imo they made it up.In post 124, skitter30 wrote:In post 98, KittyTacky wrote:
I just felt like on a re-read his arguments felt like bad faith pushes.In post 81, skitter30 wrote:
Yes, i think that's very townieIn post 78, innocentvillager wrote:Trying to create content in RVS counts as obviously town? Man I gotta try that next time
+ you can tell he's thinking abt the game and trying to understand how other people are trying to solve it (or not)
Do you think he's scummy or just don't particularly believe he's townie ?
What makes them badfaith?In post 99, KittyTacky wrote:Fairly easy to fake this "towntell" as scum imo.
And a few people indicated that they hadn't seen the ic post, including myself. Are all of them scummy? If not, why is scoliosis?
2. Scoliosis clearly at least tried to look like they paid attention-- if they were actually tryharding as town they'd have noticed the post.
2. I feel like it was easy to miss and you're applying an arbitraty standard fo scoliosis that you aren't applying to other playersShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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I think it's kinda weird to come to a totally different conclusion abt the same post at that point in the game when the pkayer in question hadnt posted anything at all in betweenIn post 150, KittyTacky wrote:It's early. The game is easy to re-evaluate. I re-read things and come to new conclusions about posts. Also being frozen is a thing.ShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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This ia an interesting take, what am i missingIn post 161, Dannflor wrote:I think Herta is town
Also not sure abt unwnd, i thought him questioning me abt church/herta was a little weird but otherwise i'm a resounding null on him rnShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Oh hi ydra!In post 168, Church wrote:the crux of my read on my meow meow is that 116 is an insanely funny post like unwnd is managing the mafia leaderboards
You feel a lot less stilted than the church version tbhShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Oh hey this is what i was trying to doIn post 180, unwnd wrote:The game seemed in stasis so I thought with a strong leading impression it would motivate others to converseShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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I thought the aggro was a very odd escalation given the question i had asked
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'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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What does this mean in the context of this game?In post 211, unwnd wrote:Feel hesitant on liking skitter in the same way Id have hesitance on Ydra
Skitter is especially good at aligning herself with best interests but secretly playing for the other team
I feel my read in that regard will be decided by flipsShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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I like ydra and dann
Still good with my herta vote but if i'm going wildly wrong somewhere someone plz enlighten meShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Not meant to be shade, more - i don't see why we're wagoning the slot, this is the one thing i don't like but that isn't enuf to call them scummy imo if that makes senseIn post 222, innocentvillager wrote:I think it’s fine if you’re actually getting wagoned
The way you phrased it made it seemed like you were throwing shade in a scummy way not a “townies should act better” wayShowHiatus once more.
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'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Fair enufIn post 224, unwnd wrote:Your posts (to me) don't really seem telling as they're just pretty standard? You do things I'd expect, but I've seen games like that one where you really just fooled the fucking pants off everyone like your plant hydra
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'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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I don't think i'm readable at this pointShowHiatus once more.
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'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
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I can think he's town without supporting his wagonIn post 233, Val89 wrote:This has been objectively wrong on each occasion you've said it previously; and it remains wrong; but just to be clear - you are claiming you posted these in the belief that Scoliosis hasn't posted anyone of consequence since #20; and the "obviously town" read you gave yesterday was based entirely on post 20, and you didn't see that was the source of the church wagon you said you disliked?
What's 'objectively wrong' ?ShowHiatus once more.
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I ... don't know what i was thinking, i read all of those posts but for some reason thought 41 42 happened right after 20 and before 24
I think i had iso'd both and somehow conflated post numbers, but that's my bad
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'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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I liked 20, 41, 42, and they were very good posts for that stage of the game.In post 245, Val89 wrote:I thought you hadn't seen it; and your "obviously town" read was even more overblown then I originally thought it was, and you were handing those reads out without even paying attention to even a limited ISO; or you had seen it and were pushing on KT in bad faith. I don't know what I am supposed to make of your answer that you did see it but have made some sort of error as to the order it was posted.
I understand in general how a desire to generate content can be townie, but I am struggling to see how #20 can result from a genuine thought process. Scoliosis tells me they hope to answer those questions today (although I would have preferred them just be answered rather than told they will) and I'll see if I can get there; but if you think I am missing some obvious and want to posit why #17 and/or #19 could (at least initially) draw a scumread that doesn't equally apply to #7 or #12; or why (assuming your hypothesis about the IC being easy to miss is correct) there is anything different about the lack of vote in #6 with #8 or #18, I am listening.
Scoliosis is the only one who can tell us in the end, but I would feel a lot better about you if you could convince me at least some thought has gone into that content rather than declaring someone "obviously town" on the basis they posted something without stopping to see if that something makes sense.
20- i liked that they were trying to find scum so early, and were not content to let the game remain in RVS (i give a *lot* of townpoints for that). They could have very easily continued with rvs, but their posts belies a motivation to try to start finding scum. The post is approaching the game from the pov that random voting based on a jokey-y vibe without trying to assess prior more 'content'-y posts are scummy. He's voted someone who made a rvs vote based on Wales, and called out another post that he felt suffered from the same problem (testarossa's sneeze post), and explained why he was not applying the same standard to a third (toto's). This isnt the epitome of scumminess, but he felt it was *scummy enough* to vote for at that point
I don't know why he didnt mention my 7 or kittytacky's slew of posts, or 13, but i see why 17 and 19 are grouped together. The post is written from a coherent, fairly nuanced, pov given the fact that we were literally on post 20, and was trying to move the game along. It's a town post. I don't think neglecting to mention 7 or 13 means he's being arbitrary, i'm assuming there's some reason he had for considering them to be in a different category
In 41/42, he found a more serious sr that he chose to pursue and push instead
20 is a great post for that stage of the game, which i said back in 36. Do i give it the same weight now? No. But for post 20, it was quite good
And i had a brainfart wrt whether or not they had seen/responded to kitty's question (i thought kitty's question was later for some reason), that's different than 'not even paying attention' or 'acting on bad faith', and doesn't have much to do with the basis of my scoliosis read at all (should it affect my kitty read? sure, and i addressed that already)ShowHiatus once more.
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'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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And what does me being unreadable have anything to do with scoliosis's readability, we're very different players. Why should i be applying the same metric to both?In post 246, Val89 wrote:I mean, the very fact you consider yourself to be unreadable at this point but considered Scoliosis to be not only readable, but obviously of one alignment is enough to give me serious pause about the genuineness of that read.
Double that when you ask me to believe you were actually trying to sort Kitty but failed to catch your own error.ShowHiatus once more.
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'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Val is your argument for scoliosis-scum that 20 contains fake reads in an attempt to seem try-hard-y, and that it's fake for failing to look at other parts of the game that you consider more AI, and for not applying thr same standard to every rvs post?ShowHiatus once more.
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'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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*to every earlier rvs post?ShowHiatus once more.
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'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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But i don't think that these are in conflict at all thoIn post 263, Val89 wrote:It's as if post 20 is authored by two separate personas - the townie careful scum hunter wanting to move the game out of RVS; analysing the early posting carefully, latching on to a tiny scum ping and getting it out there to move the game forwards (and if that ended there, I would agree with you) and must have had a reason for categorising 17 and 19 differently from 7 or 13 that's so stuble and nuanced even you can't grasp it; but then there is also the second persona that derps over the IC, both the initial announcement and failing to notice the significance of KTs unvote/revote. There were other examples of people posting and not voting - both before and after Toto (Flippy, and geraintm)
I think you're expecting too much out of a post20 post, and i think it's quite reasonable (and good) for ehat we had at the time
Like you're attributing a scummy motivation to something that i think boils down to - he missed the ic post, and found 17/19 more noteworthy to comment on than 7/13
Like you're expectations for what he *should* have been doing at that post are unreasonable imoShowHiatus once more.
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'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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I also don't think it's immediately obvious at all what kitty was getting at with that vote/unvote, i only got it after rereading the opening series of posts like 4 timesIn post 263, Val89 wrote:I don't think I'm made a secret of what my problem with it is. Fake-reads, or more likely a fake-dumbtell with respect to Toto. We STILL don't have an answer as to if they did or did not realise Toto was IC at the point of posting #20. You say that it's easily missed, because you missed it, but I don't buy someone making a try-hardy post misses that, particularly when that slew of KT posts that were ignored specifically drew attention to Toto as IC. Maybe I can see someone not engaging enough to see the IC announcement also skimming through the early KT posts and not seeing the significance of that - but I don't see the same person being responsible for a "coherent, fairly nuanced" post belying a motivation to try and start finding scum also makes that mistake. You are correct in that I am applying a different standard to Sco, but I think there is more than enough justification for doing so.ShowHiatus once more.
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'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Fwiw it is indeed nai, my first post in basically every game is along those lines, i mention the vla thing right away each gameIn post 280, Scoliosis wrote:The @data explanation in skitter's post isn't something I've seen scum post before on page 1. My feeling now with the benefit of hindsight is that skitter's choice to include it was nai and that without the @data part of their post, they posted exactly what I was looking for in 20. However, I don't regret overlooking that the first time, because I was trying to push the posts only which I've actually seen coming from scum. I do regret missing that toto is an ic, because I have actually seen scum vote the ic before as a joke on page 1.ShowHiatus once more.
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'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Also i think 280 backs up my impression of 20ShowHiatus once more.
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'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Does ur scumread of me basically boil down to thinking i'm svs with kitty?In post 285, Scoliosis wrote:I don't believe that any of the posts between skitter or KittyTacky are genuine from either side. I feel like skitter seems to be throwing reads around at random unless they are talking about KittyTacky, and with KittyTacky I feel like they are very precise about pointing out what exactly is wrong with his posts, yet there is a lack of meaningful aggression towards him.
Am i still scum in a town-kitty world?ShowHiatus once more.
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'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Oh this has become a vibes game i see
Heya pookyShowHiatus once more.
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'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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In post 433, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:this is where my reads are after full reread:
town:
ydra, iv, herta, freedom, unwnd, skitter, toto
neutral:
val, gera, kt
scum:
scol, dann
i'm willing to kill scol or dann today what do you think
VOTE: dannflor
Bad takesIn post 441, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:look at him instead of engaging with my readlist and telling me what he agrees with or doesn't agree with he's there just sitting on the floor rocking back and forth hugging his knees mumbling gibberishShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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>.>In post 446, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:hi skitts <3 no paranoia pls i towb this time
Uh most of your takes, and especially both of your scumreadsIn post 447, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:ok what do u disagree withShowHiatus once more.
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'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Also UNVOTE:ShowHiatus once more.
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'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Not being here in realtime is not a scumtell ...In post 455, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:0 real time sorting/engagement to sort
lots of declarative statements dressed up to look fancier than they actually are
low desire to really be in the thread and talk out reads with the people he is "townreading"ShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Unless you have reason to believe he is purposefully stunting his realtime inthread interactions, that's an availability-indicative thing, not an ai-indicative thingShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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That's not the sort of player he is, above post case in pointIn post 466, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
this game started a week ago do you see him trying to have a conversation with anyone at any point about anythingIn post 463, skitter30 wrote:
Not being here in realtime is not a scumtell ...In post 455, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:0 real time sorting/engagement to sort
lots of declarative statements dressed up to look fancier than they actually are
low desire to really be in the thread and talk out reads with the people he is "townreading"ShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Unwnd's scol vote is a little ickyShowHiatus once more.
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'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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I think scol ia townIn post 433, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:this is where my reads are after full reread:
town:
ydra, iv, herta, freedom, unwnd, skitter, toto
neutral:
val, gera, kt
scum:
scol, dann
i'm willing to kill scol or dann today what do you think
VOTE: dannflor
Dann is null and it's wild that you're voting him
Why are you townreading all of:me, herta, freedom, and unwndShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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There is literally nothing in my iso that indicates that i have any desire or inclination to vote you, like half of my iso is indicating the exact oppositeIn post 468, Scoliosis wrote:The fact that you aren't voting pooky and are leaving your vote at nl makes me suspicious you are preparing for a read flip if you see my wagon becomes popular. I'm expecting scum skitter to continue to hedge their reads for a while so they have the option of pretending to flip their read on me if it becomes clear that scum need my wagon to go through today.ShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Ok, scoliosis are you an alt or gimmick player? Are you new? Do you have experience playing forum mafia?ShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Fwiw i'm reading them as experienced in mafia but new to ms and is used to a different site meta (and/or possibly an irl player new to forum mafia)ShowHiatus once more.
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'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Ok that is very different than what i was thinkingShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Ok can you at least comfirm or deny this theory?In post 483, skitter30 wrote:Fwiw i'm reading them as experienced in mafia but new to ms and is used to a different site meta (and/or possibly an irl player new to forum mafia)ShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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Man playing without meta the one time was really really nice >.>ShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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I actually disliked that interaction the other way
Either way i still don't think scoliosis is scum hereShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx-
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