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@korts - I am not being deliberately obtuse. some would just say i am obtuse naturally.
@nancy - I don't have anything to add atm so I am confused as to why you are waiting for me.
@ human - there won't be any squabbling from meProudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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Well I don't consider it an rvs vote. I just never understand why people vote me for saying "sup", because this isn't the first time it's happened. Getting people to explain what their issue is I feel helps me better understand them. Right now I don't like percy's response and the old me would probably go into a death tunnel, but with limited posts and lack of cares right now I'm not going to dwell on it.In post 31, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Do you think Percy trying to add reason to his RVS a bit odd? Like as if he's trying hard not to make his vote scummy?
that isn't a good reason to give a town read imo. The best way to seem genuine, is to actually be genuine. You can totally be genuine as scumIn post 32, Ginngie wrote:
Town.In post 29, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Hi nancy. This vote is to add weight to the Robbinva-PersephoneSidekick conflict. Basically, I want them to squabble while I observe from a distance.
Sounds scummy as if instigating a fight, but townAF for honestyProudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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I didn't argue anything actually. I asked you a simple question.
You chose to use something game related to vote me, asking you to explain your vote is perfectly acceptable response.
you claim it was rvs, but according to my definition of rvs, it wasn't.
Also I don't really buy the whole "see if his reaction would be useful" because you have to have a familiarity with me to know how I would react as town and scum, and you don't.
my apologies for calling you he, I have issues with pronouns all the time. I will try not to make that mistake again.
There hasn't been enough from you to determine if you are scum or town yet, so I won't put you at L-1 but you are definitely on my radar. Let's see if your play improves.Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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coming from the guy who was just helping the wagon along...In post 47, Tchill13 wrote:Honestly I feel like the reason for the wagon building on them right now is pretty stupid.
why did you join it if you thought the reason for it was stupid?Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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I don't buy that really. Plus Perse has twice misrepresented what happened. In one post she says I argued with her which I didn't. She also said I was defensive which I wasn't.
I feel like you knew she was digging herself in a hole and you wanted to get off before the wagon got serious.
You and massive joined suspiciously and hopped off suspiciously as well. Ideally I'd love the scum team to be the 3 of you but I'm not that lucky.
That said I won't object to a lynch from the 3 of you.Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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Asking you a question is neither arguing or being defensive. So yes let's argue about that cause you clearly have no clue what it means.In post 112, PersephoneSidekick wrote:Behold, Robbnva arguing with me and being defensive. Shall we argue about the definitions of words some more?
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This is an example of somebody being defensive
Let's hang this scum please.In post 15, PersephoneSidekick wrote:Dude, it's RVS; why are you expecting me to make sense?Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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Why would scum reading him be dumb?In post 115, Ginngie wrote:who is dumb enough to scum read Korts?Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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That wasn't why you voted me.... Why did you change now? btw, my reason for my vote wasn't bad at all actually.In post 90, massive wrote:I was reminded that Robb's original reason for voting Persephone was pretty bad
I do find it highly suspicious that you are criticizing my reasons, when all of your votes this game have actually been for terrible reasons. I do not see this kind of play coming from town. I hate pre-flip associations, but i am feeling confident that you and PS are probably scum together.
your "I am all for an early wagon" was clearly garbage since you removed your vote 6 posts later and your follow up vote was a chainsaw vote. Now you vote somebody else because they are questioning you.
Also to answer your question about condescending being alignment indicative, YOU were the one who implied it was AI when you gave that for your reason for voting me, you know, before you backpedaled and changed your reasons later.
I'd strongly prefer a PS or a massive lynch today, hope others see just how scummy they actually are.Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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There is a HUGE difference between our questions...In post 131, PersephoneSidekick wrote:That's hilarious. You just said that "asking a question is not argueing or being defensive and that quoted me asking a question and quoted it as definition of defensive. Both of us were asking defensive questions. This is clear from context; there is no regular expression algorithm to prove it mechanically. This the last time I will engage with you on this. Other people will draw their own conclusions.
my question was trying to better understand what was going on in your mind, you voted and implied that me not voting was scummy and I wanted to know why.
your "Dude it's rvs, why are you expecting me to make sense"
1. the "dude it's rvs" alone is an defensive reaction, to me it reads like "Dude back off"
2. "why are you expecting me to make sense" isn't really a legitimate question and more of a rhetorical one, because you are expected to make sense when explaining your votes.
but here let me answer it for you.
I am expecting you to make sense because you were the first to person to use a "in game" reason to vote somebody, which implies to me that 1. it wasn't RVS and 2. you were suspicious of me for not RVS voting. When asked to explain your thought process, you should be able to explain it in a way that makes sense to me and others. You didn't and imo i don't think you have.Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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viewtopic.php?f=55&t=61784In post 135, PersephoneSidekick wrote:Because the amount he's insisting that my blatantly RVS vote was "game relevant" is really really weird to me.
Posts 12 and 22.
Sound familiar? Random is random. Using something somebody says in the game is specific.
Call me stubborn or hard headed but that's the true definition of rvs and has always been for the 10+ years I've played.Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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If you are town your play definitely is. Your votes have come with no good reasoning at all (condescending and not liking my reasons neither of which are reasons to vote someone ever let alone remotely AI), the one attempt to look town you balked and unvoted a meet 6 posts later.(hoping off before he has time to even feel the pressure and adequate respond to the people voting him) You try to discredit me by saying my reason for my vote on PS was bad or whatever but it really wasn't. He used a very game specific reason to vote me. I asked him to explain it and he backpedaled and brushed it off as "rvs".In post 138, massive wrote:And I hate when players feel like they can call other players "bad."
I assume you wanting me to vote you means he's probably the pr and you the goon. That makes sense. Play scummier to distract from the more powerful partner who's under more heat.
Nah. We can lynch PS firstProudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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You aren't reading the game closely. It's not just the vote. It's the reaction to me ask him about it. It's how he tried to play it off as rvs which somehow means he's absolved from answering the question. It's how he tried to take town credit for getting the game out of rvs. Its how he's falsely accusing me of things and somehow thinks my question is remotely close to his question. It's the lack of substance/scum hunting he's done.
Like I've said all this already. It's not just his vote...Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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@ps. You won't be the first to be mad at me, and certainly won't be the last.
@diamond. You clearly aren't reading my posts cause I've stated that I'm most suspicious of massive and tchill. I even think massive is trying to scum it up on purpose to protect ps.Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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Like it's a collection of things why I scum read Ps. Anyone who still says it's about rvs isn't reading the game.In post 144, Robbnva wrote:You aren't reading the game closely. It's not just the vote. It's the reaction to me ask him about it. It's how he tried to play it off as rvs which somehow means he's absolved from answering the question. It's how he tried to take town credit for getting the game out of rvs. Its how he's falsely accusing me of things and somehow thinks my question is remotely close to his question. It's the lack of substance/scum hunting he's done.
Like I've said all this already. It's not just his vote...
Now you can disagree with my reasons, but these are why ps is scum to me.Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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So why aren't you voting who you think is scum? What do you hope to accomplish by voting me for something you clearly know nothing about?In post 172, Assemblerotws wrote:
I'm fairly certain at least two of TChill, ginngie, monkey, and Kaboose are scum, because they all have different scummy habits I saw people pointing out while rereading. The trick is figuring out which is which.In post 171, Sunlit Diamond wrote:
Do you have any thoughts on the rest of the game so far?In post 164, Assemblerotws wrote:VOTE: Robb for blowing up RVS into a much more important matter than it deserves.Last edited by RadiantCowbells on Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:01 pm, edited 1 time in total.Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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I didn't lie thanks. I did however make a mistake. Earlier I was typing a post where I mentioned the town cred thing but during the middle of it my boss called me away and when I came back I lost my train of thought and never finished my post. The definition of rvs being different is yet another stupid reason to vote me. I don't care if people don't use the same definition as me, that is how I define it.In post 178, Assemblerotws wrote:Robb also sounds like scum because he lied in 144, saying that he'd already brought up half his arguments against Persephone when he had until that point never brought up the town cred Persephone claimed for taking the game out of RVS or the attempt to just play it off as RVS. He's also using a definition of RVS that literally nobody else on this site uses, and all his arguments until 100 or so centered wholly around RVS to try and justify a lynch. To be honest, until I looked at his join date right now, I legit thought this was his first game on this site and he was trying what could have worked on another site to get a townie lynched.
I'll add you to the potential scum list also cause you aren't really looking for scum or motives. You are voting me for non AI things when you have legitimate scum readsProudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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Oh and I don't like how you just nitpick one thing and say "oh he lied". My posts clearly point to me thinking he is scum for more that his rvs vote. His rvs vote isn't why I scum read him and never was. You are deliberately twisting the facts to justify a shitty vote.Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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You aren't scum hunting or trying to progress the game. You have a terrible voting history. You seem too nervous. You definitely seem to care what others think of you too much (like why ask this question? Either defend yourself from the people voting you or move on)In post 186, Tchill13 wrote:Alright... Why am I the best lynch? Give me some questions I can answer. Anybody. I'll do my best to answer sufficiently.
If I wasn't dead set on lynching ps, I'd be voting you alsoProudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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In post 184, Sunlit Diamond wrote:it is ironic that Robb first said he would not death tunnel on PS, and then totally did just that.
Yes my plan wasn't to death tunnel but when a player blatantly lies about me I can't help but want them dead.
The bragging about RC wasn't meant to be bragging, it's more of the point that people want to excuse people's early posts in rvs because it's rvs and it is possible to trip somebody up and catch them.
I can't remember who said it here but somebody described ps in a way that i completely agrees with. She wanted to look like she was participating in rvs by trying to come up with a reason. It looked awkward and unnatural to me. Then to balk at my question and basically say "dude it's rvs" she completely negates everything. It's not a reaction I really see coming from town. I could see a n00b scum reacting like that though.
Aside from that. Now she's just in full omgus mode. Voting me for voting her. I don't see her really attempting to scum hunt or sort other people. It's clear my suspicion of her is genuine so she can't (and nobody can) really think I'm scum here. She's done legitimately scummy things and needs rope imo.Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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so who are you scum reading and why? Your first 2 votes had no attempt at scum hunting and your last vote was to pressure someone who you felt wasn't posting enough. I feel like at this point you should have more substance if you are townProudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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well you aren't really playing like town right now so can't really blame anyone for scum reading you. Can you please post some content?In post 204, Aristophanes wrote:Like, I'm such an easy ML push right now!
Tchill loses whatever townread I didn't have for him.Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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In post 208, Aristophanes wrote:My play hasn't been scum me though
I agree about the next comment about tchill. He is definitely going after easy targets.Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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as I said earlier, I have been voted before for saying "sup" so for me that's par for the course. The fact that she didn't respond in an acceptable way made me suspicious of her. I was truly interested in seeing her react to the wagon on her but it dissolved way too quickly.
I will abandon my tunnel for now but I am not giving that slot a town read based on the replace out, so whoever comes in has to really impress me to change my read.
VOTE: massiveProudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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I voted you before you started playing. You were too late. Sorry scum. If you aren't scum, sorry you decided to play like shit for some reason.
I'm not bullying you and I wasn't bullying your predecessor. I scum read your predecessor for legitimate reasons. You come in and think you can troll your suspicion away. Sorry that shit doesn't work on me.
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I didn't lie. I gave you a chance. I unvoted your slot. Voted massive instead. You made 9 useless posts.
That was your chance and you blew it.
Not wasting any more posts arguing with my scum read.
bye Felicia.
P.s.@mod I'll basically be in the woods of WVA Friday & Saturday doing a Ragnar and Sunday probably in a coma so v/la this weekend
P.s.s - you've played like shit. Suck it trebekProudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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this post is hilarious.In post 287, Eddie Cane wrote:
unless you areIn post 15, PersephoneSidekick wrote:Dude, it's RVS; why are you expecting me to make sense?Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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Maybe I'm misreading some things but I've looked over ALL of tchill's games and he's only been mislynched once. The rest he was scum, killed, or survived.
If Eddie cane or even tchill wants to provide links to the msynches that happen "a lot" that would be swell. Otherwise that's yet another mistake Eddie has made.Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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No you didn't but he did. He said he's played with you under some alt.In post 309, Tchill13 wrote:I don't think I ever claimed I was mislynched "a lot"
Have you been mislynched a lot on here?Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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so what do you make of Eddie basically saying the exact opposite?In post 326, Tchill13 wrote:Robbvna you said you read all my games and I was only mislynched once. From my recollection that's correct.
He clearly made it seem that you are mislynchbait.Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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Assembler definitely included my definition of rvs in his reasons for scum reading me.In post 345, nancy wrote:@Robbnva I don't think Assembler is scumreading you for having a different definition of RVS; I could understand where you were coming from with your push on Persephone for the most part even if I didn't really agree with it; don't think that it's unreasonable to see that as you pushing for a lynch off pretty much nothing when your read on Persephone at that point seemed to be based on a misunderstanding of her content. Maybe you don't think that's the case but even if Persephone was justifying herself after the fact and behaving a little awkward overall I'm not sure why that means she should just be lynched; I agree that RVS reads are legitimate and Persephone was legitimately scummy but I don't think that your approach there has been particularly reasonable overall; I don't think that her OMGUS was scummy in any special way; I disagree that she hadn't been attempting to scumhunt or sort people - I think she was pretty clearly doing so? I'm a little worried you haven't really reevaluated on the replacement and I don't strongly get the sense that you really intended to in any meaningful way - 220 felt pretty genuine but you seem to have abanonded that take pretty summarily. Tchill isn't OMGUSing you - how does that affect your read there? Why are you scumreading massive?
I disagree with you regarding the whole PS thing, and tbh I don't really care what you consider reasonable. People tell me all the time I am not a reasonable person, but I can't really help what i find scummy and I found PS's play scummy and Eddie has continued to play scummy so I am fairly certain it is a scum flip coming. If i'm wrong, at least we cut some dead weight.
I don't think I ever said tchill was omgusing me.
post 120 is a good explanation on why I think massive is scum. Additionally, I don't really see town motivations in any of his posts.Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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once Eddie is lynched, you will be nextIn post 348, massive wrote:Robbnva: Some day you're going to have to vote me for more than a weekend or this shade you throw at me just isn't gonna stickProudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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my reason for voting PS wasn't rubbish, and it's why i am still pushing the issue. You disagree with that, fine but my reasons have actual substance. your didn't. don't try and compare my vote with your crappy votes, cause they are not similar at all.In post 349, massive wrote:It was absolute rubbish and more than one person has told you it was. But you have a consistency problem here; either both of us are scummy for voting for rubbish reasons, or neither of us are. You can't have your "this is AI for only one of us" and eat it too.
No, townies should not do garbage things to get the game moving.In post 349, massive wrote:Of course it was garbage. You do garbage things in RVS to get the game moving. Calling the vote on you "chainsaw" is a poor attempt to downplay any validity (since chainsaw is based on intent to defend Persephone and I don't think you could really paint that picture in detail) and you misrepresent the third, which wasn't because Kaboose was asking me questions but because he wasn't following up on them or being influenced by answers to those questions that were already in the thread when he asked them. He was asking questions just to appear to be asking questions and trying to legitimize his vote. You'll maybe notice he never came back to them, even after this was pointed out to him.
your vote on my was chainsaw
I don't think that was what korts was doing at all personally so agree to disagree yet again
I don't really think you can say that was what I was doing. I was treating my scum read like scum. I am not going to be nice and friendly with my scum read.In post 349, massive wrote:I will always happily vote for someone being a jackass or just plain unnecessarily mean. I don't want to play with those people. There needs to be consequences for them treating people like shitProudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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if you believe this, who is the scum pushing him?In post 354, Sunlit Diamond wrote:I am quite certain that TChill is a scum team's dream opportunity for a mislynch.
I am kind of starting to feel this way also but still not 100% ruling out that tchill isn't scumProudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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you said something once about it but I didn't take it seriously.In post 361, Ginngie wrote:Also I'm pretty sure I told everyone about me being IC day 3 or no?Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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How can you say I haven't tried to sort you? I did try to sort you actually. You posted useless garbage trolling posts and after so many I had enough and was reassured my read on your slot was right.
I don't need to interact with you to know your predecessor was scum and you replaced into a scum slot.
I already attempted to convince people. They have disagreed with me. Doesn't mean I give up. Im fine parking my vote on you til town finally sees what I see.
I don't care if you area leading wagon or not. You are my top scum read and you need death.
I won't ever flip red but you know that since you are the one who's red.
You have done nothing useful since replacing in except omgus me and you have the nerve to say I'm scum when I've provided the most reasons out of any vote in this game. Get hung or piss off. Cause you are scum or a scummy player. Your predecessor was scummy also.
Go ahead and try and lynch me. I don't give a shit. I'll flip town and maybe town will listen to me at that pointProudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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