Heroes Wanted! (Game Over)

[Gamma Emerald]

i didn’t sub in till right before d3, i bolded the question asked it in my 4456 which went in-depth about creature. i asked this because i had seen you mod a game where human sequencer replaced out as scum.

Well I skipped part of day 3 (which I regret now tbh), so I missed the question. As for that other game that wasn't really informing my read. But now that you bring it up, I think a replace is NAI for human as they're kinda flaky anyway

[Gamma Emerald]

human sequencer appears from a quick meta dive to be overall a bit more cautious laying his vote down to begin the game as town than as scum, and didn’t seem to take that degree of caution in this game. can you investigate my 4456 and tell me if you can derive any original insight from that quick meta dive? or if there’s anything you would take seriously.

I have to take some time to digest your post but after a quick look-over it seems pretty good. btw I was actually scumreading you a bit until you responded, now that you have responded and I've read 4456 I think you're town

[Gamma Emerald]

FA already cleared that up but the irony of you reiterating FA’s math question - like what are the odds? XDD

I...don't like the tone of this

Why? What don’t you get about math/Math?

But I guess I’ll just have to spell it out for you I suppose. *sigh*

The subject involved a

math

question.

The poster I’m referencing is called

MATH

blade.

I did not understand you were making a pun
Be aware I'm Aspergian and this is on a forum, so my lack of humor detection is amplified

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma - Urgh, the jumps onto me have been bad, and I really haven't seen him contribute anything, but saying that me pointing out that I shouldn't be lynched pre-leader sorting is scummy is pretty lol

Excuse me, how are my jumps on you "bad"? I've been scumreading you pretty consistently, am I not supposed to vote my

fucking

scumreads? And I think I've contributed plenty, just because I've been less active this game day doesn't mean my previous activity is chopped liver. And saying you shouldn't be lynched pre-leader sorting

isn't

scummy, it's the timing of it that felt scummy.

[Gamma Emerald]

Why do you say that is bad?

Because that means that even if you get a power (like BP) tonight, you cant use a power tonight coz you already used precog.

I feel like if they do that then they give other slots a chance to do other things
idk why but this logic from Sakura has me worried

[Gamma Emerald]

Speaking of today's abilities im really mad about the inclusion of something like petrification.
But that's something to talk with the mod post-game.

Have we determined if that gives a flip

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually Shiro's not confirmed not having that ability, Shiro's confirmed not using Power Negate last night coz she used Spiritual Mediumship.
But I think Shiro's most likely town anyway so no worries there.

What if we lock Shiro into using that power every night? That way she can't use anything like Power Negate. Any objections/concerns?

[Gamma Emerald]

i don’t know you, mathblade. and eww at you thinking i have a partner because of that, like that’s pretty far out there.

i just took a quick dive at my tablet history, but couldn’t confirm that that was indeed the scum game i took a quick glance at. i took a glance at several of your town games as well, so i thought that might be one.

I don't think that concluding possible partners is such a stretch, I have reasoning from another game but it's a long story so if asked I'll probably just link it rather than tell it

[Gamma Emerald]

Now i want some milk myself.

so do i! xD

thanks math

I generally save my milk for cereal as I don't have much money for groceries
I drink water instead

[Gamma Emerald]

As long as we’re on this topic, I’m somewhat lactose intolerant, so while I’m okay with ice cream and cheese, I only drink chocolate almond milk.

I was/am casein intolerant, but I guess I built up an immunity? I had a horrible night one time several years ago where I ate several cheese sticks and then threw them back up
@Math okay, I'll link the post that contains the thing I'm refering to

[Gamma Emerald]

i nightkilled you; i’m human i forget things.

*headtilt*
how do you forget that

[Gamma Emerald]

i nightkilled you; i’m human i forget things.

*headtilt*
how do you forget that

the game went by really quick; night phases were instantaneous so we locked in a target before the day phase was over

But you said YOU killed him. That particular phrasing is what has me up in arms here.

[Gamma Emerald]

Subject: In Memory

Pretty much I suspect Kling and Lycanfire for knowing too much from Rach Marie.

-- Math

Subject: In Memory

agent, i do believe that you are slipping. do remember that pants are an important item in the workplace.

Lycanfire needs rope badly. I have never played with them so this pants comment makes no sense.

-- Math

This is why Math suspecting partners in not a stretch, stun
The tl;dr is Lycanfire used pants, which is Math's special term for role, where "dropping your pants" is role claiming, after having read back I actually see that in that game the suspicion given wasn't very smart, but it's still somewhat understandable. It's similar here. He probably believes someone from that game referred you to it.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma - Urgh, the jumps onto me have been bad, and I really haven't seen him contribute anything, but saying that me pointing out that I shouldn't be lynched pre-leader sorting is scummy is pretty lol

Excuse me, how are my jumps on you "bad"? I've been scumreading you pretty consistently, am I not supposed to vote my

fucking

scumreads? And I think I've contributed plenty, just because I've been less active this game day doesn't mean my previous activity is chopped liver.

And saying you shouldn't be lynched pre-leader sorting

isn't

scummy, it's the timing of it that felt scummy.

Hahahahaha, so saying it isn't scummy, but saying it at L-3 or L-2 or whatever it was IS? You're probably right, the townie thing to do would be to wait until after I was lynched and point it out in twilight...

STILL NOT WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY
I'm saying that you said it following a general sentiment of that idea, so it felt like you were hiding behind that as a pseudo-defense

[Gamma Emerald]

It looks really random with no common thread and you aren’t following up on what you’re given.

I don't know about this as a reason to scumread someone given people sling that one at me a lot even though I do it quite a bit as town

[Gamma Emerald]

uses vca to uphold weak scumread/earlier vote of sando, albeit still with very little support. doesn’t explain *why this is a possible bus —> which would be pivotal towards upholding such a stance.

I wanna know why Titus seems to be saying that me voting Titus is a possible bus...

LMAO super fail xD
I didnt even realize that.

pointout where titus says that pls

[Gamma Emerald]

guys, i think i’ve found scum!

Ok, I am never lynching Sando D1. His avatar is too precious.

Sando - Weak town
BBmolla - Null, weak lean scum
NicoRobin - Lean scum
randomidget - Who? Null problem
Kokichi Oma - Same
Nancy Drew 39 - Town with reservations
hebichan - Town lean
zMuffinMan - Town by wagons, weak town by play
Human Sequencer - Town
Katsuki - Weak town
Sakura Hana - Biggest TR
Toranaga - Conflicted should get a read but I need him to do something other than fight me
Frozen Angel - Townish but maybe captured dunno
123456789 - Eat rope
Shiro - Scum, No cookies
Gamma Emerald - Who
Ankamius brassherald - Town annoying but town
Nosferatu Chickadee - Town
Cerberus v666 - Conflicted by play, leader vote says townish maybe
Myloninja13 - Who
the worst - Needs more
Titus - That Asshole talks behind my back
Drixx - I wanna work on Worm

literally all the mentions that titus made before her first vote of sando on the second page of her iso.

thought he was weak town; what went down in between with her reasoning to justify her later vote for him last day phase?

OK I don't like this post, reeks of scum gotcha reasoning

[Gamma Emerald]

Mainly I have a strong feeling Titus is scum I can’t shake Stun scum I want to believe Sando is town and having a hard time seeing it and worst is better than that argument

I just don’t have confidence that those are a team together

My thinking is if two of those are scum it's Sando+stun

[Gamma Emerald]

Since when does Ank make “knee jerk” votes to anything? Have you ever played with her before?

You know damn well why FA hasn’t voted. She wanted to establish leader picks before a hammer. You trying to link her to Titus, when anyone claiming to have read this thread knows exactly why she hasn’t voted is just ugh.

I’m starting to wonder if Math wasn’t wrong afterall and if this really is a bus?

Yeah this actually makes Titus+stun a bit more viable because it could be stun believes he can chain several mislynches from Titus' death

[Gamma Emerald]

Can we slow down the rate of posting for the hyperactives so I can get reads on less active slots?

for postgame you're my new best friend for asking this. ;(

What concerns me is why Stun is trying to get a maj before FA has even submitted her list. Is he trying to make it easier for scum to pull another fast one on us, like they did on D2?

look. you’re throwing out these concerns, but you’re not actively taking stances, which is sketchy

if you are town, you can play so much better than this...

There is a stance there. It's calked your play is scummy.

Oh yeah that's pretty bad on stun's part
I still think his questioning was towny but his logic/pushes aren't up to that level

[Gamma Emerald]

If you guys don't want to then I want a really good reason in your next post.

I don't see anything Katsuki has done that is actually scummy yet

[Gamma Emerald]

Creature - Where he go
Drixx - Gone, possibly waiting to hammer me
Frozen Angel - Near locktown
Gamma Emerald - Gone
hebichan - Someone I suspected, gone
Katsuki - Gone, possibly scum
Kokichi Oma - Lean lurker town, was lurking early drew attention to it, but he's still lurkinb
MathBlade - Shares an alignment with Sando
Nancy Drew 39 - Probably town
Nosferatu - Who?
Sakura Hana - Town by VCA
Sando - Most likely scum by VCA
Shiro - Cookues are awesome
stungun0404 - Sorting based on our interactions currently.
the worst - Coasting regardless of his alignment
Titus - ?
Toogeloo - Need to see scumhunting to see if he is wking
Toranaga - Gone
zMuffinMan - VCA clears but gone

oh btw wtf do these mean, why am I "gone"?

[Gamma Emerald]

The reason I am not really feeling this is that I have seen town titus lynched for not "delivering"on her vca

It's a BoP fallacy. On the one hand, it was scummy for me to assume that I was elected bc I was correct. Yet on the other hand, I am supposed to totally solve the game where town has to do nothing and too many lurkers and spammers.

Honestly if you expect Titus to be doing VCA with one scum flip you kinda have your head in your ass
I have been thinking this for a while but it needs to be said at this point

[Gamma Emerald]

Call me whatever, I don't mind :p

"I'm just a sweet transvestite from Transsexual, Transylvania!"

Oh god that reference makes me wanna facedesk
ND39, Mathblade, and probably a few others know why

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh so you do talk now huh?

>Wagons Katsuki
>Katsuki feels the need to respond to a wagon that is perceived as a misunderstanding
>"oh Katsuki responded, must be scum"
I don't like this logic one bit

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel like the song are SOMEWHAT topical so while they're obfuscating it shows she's aty least appraised of the situation, idk if scum take that extra time
plus beyond that post I do recall some other points where she's participated
and how do you conclude I was just defending Katsuki when it came after several other posts, that's extremely hard to do and makes me think you're lying about that

[Gamma Emerald]

wtf? apparently there's a delayed amnesiac cop or something in the game? i just got a result from the mod saying creature is scum

weird

Hi
just say it rather than being dumb

[Gamma Emerald]

hmm that's really weird

just received another PM from the mod saying he's holding a batch of muffins hostage and the only way to release them is to get creature lynched today

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Weird, I just got a PM telling me those muffins were stale and way past their expiration date.

Master Mischief was right about the muffins?
I only realized after writing that how topical it is

[Gamma Emerald]

who did titus pick in her team?

ive

been paying attention so of course i know the answer already... ... ... but im testing whether any of

you

been paying attention... ... ...

I know she picked me, Math, FA I think? And she’s claiming Ank. I don’t remember if there was a 5th or not?

Oh yeah, Shiro. So 4/5 accounted for and the 5th, conveniently dead.

Claimed Ank, Nancy, Shiro, Math, FA and

Drixx

. When challenged D3 said that tried to submit too many so removed Drixx.

OH?
Titus mind explaining why you removed Drixx out of those? IN fact explain why those were your picks to begin with. Individual reasons please.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Titus

Yeah it does let’s start here.

Then I think we do Shiro + 1 person FA picks as potential leader choices.

Lynch Titus. This stops the whole Shiro picks Titus problem and then assuming Titus is scum Cerb was likely killed because he townread Titus and people generally listen to Cerb when dead. I think she was trying to purchase credibility with that shot.

I think this is sensible, but I still scumread Sando and I don't see a universe where both are scum

[Gamma Emerald]

You mean the constant diversions and vanishing when he's the topic of conversation but hyperposting making the thread unreadable when I am?

Wat? Vanishing? When?!

Beetlejuice.

Point to any diversions or vanishing...have fun with that scum.

yawn
this doesn't make sando look any better

[Gamma Emerald]

It’s not up to YOU, it’s up to SHIRO.

If shiro doesn't listen to that, what do you think will happen following that?

[Gamma Emerald]

ya Titus is scum

I keep feeling paranoid about all the hate thrown her way but there are some things I think are valid and if wrong it eliminate a distraction anyway so
VOTE: Titus

[Gamma Emerald]

does anyone feel like Sando and Titus are the same alignment?

...very much not?

[Gamma Emerald]

mod just pm’d me and informed me TITUS IS SCUM. and that lynching her gets us down to 3 scum. she’ll be forwarding it to everyone here shortly

Hey
This is fucking distracting and if everyone doesn't stop this I will start policying over it, starting with muffins as he's the primary offender rn

[Gamma Emerald]

I am pleased to announce that zMuffinman has engaged me in a warm welcoming manner which did not feel manipulative and now I'm ready to kick scum butt.

That wasn't engaging that was banter wtf

[Gamma Emerald]

what if we use the vig ability thing on lurkers and sort some slots today instead?

that doesn't give flips?

[Gamma Emerald]

cupcake's more likely town than scum. that's all

creature is more likely scum than town. human sequencer has some awkward interactions with numbers. don't like the way creature's been sitting on sando. didn't really like the way he was sitting on mylo. dont like the rest of his reads

OK I think this read is pretty good
now if you would have outed it TO BEGIN WITH rather than being obnoxious with faking mod communication I might have a better opinion of you

[Gamma Emerald]

how much will take to skim 10 to 15 pages every 48 hours?

we're at 90 pages in this day phase just over 8 RL days so it's hardly so it's closer to 11 pages every 24 hours but that's not the point. the point is that those pages are the same fucking people talking about shit no one else actually cares about

Asdfghjkl;' new fav

You can also say that the worst and shiro are spamming. yeah

settle down sweetheart

honestly anyone active in the game for real is spamming with the rate of content there has been

[Gamma Emerald]

@any lurkers I want any reads you have, you don't need to contribute beyond that but I at least want to know you've read some of the recent stuff

[Gamma Emerald]

sweetheart?
I have no idea what that was meant to be. not sweetheart. sorry!

okay this post makes me not like you as a person
why did you feel the need to redact that? It feels rather rude

[Gamma Emerald]

sweetheart is kinda condescending

with a tinge of sexism/misogyny

just a touch

I guess this is fair
still feels a mite rude
PEdit: probably math

[Gamma Emerald]

imo Katsuki is not the optimal lynch for today

[Gamma Emerald]

oddly focused for an unfocused slot

huh?

[Gamma Emerald]

omg 15 pages again

[Gamma Emerald]

btw, can you produce a reads list gamma?

I'd rather not produce a list, would rather just state my reads atm

[Gamma Emerald]

Ok, I am back from taking my husband to the doctor. Anything important I missed in 15 pages?

Welp, ninjaed by Gamma. Nice to finally see you again. What are your reads?

Finally? I'm actively daily, piss off about me "not being active" if that's what you're implying. Nice fucking shade.
As for my reads Sando is my strongest scumread but I'm compromising on you because it will probably do more for the game if you flip town imo. stun is also kinda floating around in my scumpool. Katsuki I have as leantown, along with muffins kinda. Sakura is kinda town, tbh I am curious why she was posited as a leader pick over someone else (not thinking of anyone specific fyi) but I won't raise an official objection. Mathblade is town, I'm still pretty sure Nos is town, and that's like all I can think of off the top of my head.
PEdit: Shiro you should really be spirit mediuming Ank over anyone else.

[Gamma Emerald]

regarding hard townread of sakura,

Also would be nice if we didnt scramble so close to EoD. When my internet went down i almost had a heart attack.

1). this reads super genuine to me, and not like scum faking it. she seems to be following through with this too, which is even townier, given her recent change to the titus lynchwagon.

scum are ok with us scrambling very close to EoD, because a). a no-lynch can happen and b). they can keep a distraction like myloninja in the game longer.

2). sakura’s urgency in us not believing the cop claim at the start of day phase when it was bullshit, and instead taking a solid stance that we should not believe it and clearly distracting away from that distraction is super town-motivated

the fact that she’s consistently distracting away from potential distractions just looks so town to me, and not LAMIST-Y/trying to be town. i can remember more instances off memory, but i’d have to deep dive on her to prove it.

You know what this is good enough to alleviate my concerns

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, it's very dangerous to have scum in leader position. I mean look at that Petrification power, could allow scum to just petrify 4 players for a surprise lylo.

...Are you calling FA scum? Because Petrification isn't available tomorrow from what Math posted

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't mechanics talk nearly as much as scum. Open 730.

Open 730.

Open

my dude

Zzzzzz, your desperation to take everything I say out of context is noted.

@Sando I think your read on me will calibrate. Check my last finished scumgame it's a quick read. I'm capable of emulating the qualities you look for in me as scum pretty well

Here I've been saying Duckling is nowhere near his towngame and he's told me to look at his latest scumgame, for reference, it's

Open 733

.

Everything I read from you was going on about mechanics and crap and I know that's a strength of yours but it is never alignment indicative.

Here he claims that mechanic spec is not AI.

It's only then that I respond with my previous scumgame.

So you think it's stupid to look at other types of games for meta, but you'll pick up me for responding in kind to duckling doing it (with no prompting) whilst ignoring him.

Just...so bad. If you're so insistent on a scumread, at least read the damn thread.

*thinking*

[Gamma Emerald]

You agree on my SRs but think I'll flip town and that's better?

I think that you're scummy as well and if you do flip town it helps solve the game/removes a distraction

[Gamma Emerald]

yeah Nos isn't rocking my world here. I guess we lynch him d4?

+1

tbh if we get a nos scumflip I'll be looking at tw for nos picking on sando over him

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually I will be able to talk to him at night but that's it. It's not like I can transfer thoughts during the night though.

You can log his thoughts though right? You don't lose access to the PT?

[Gamma Emerald]

Titus is highly likely scum but, I wanna be a superhero. I'm quirkless. All Might save me

[Gamma Emerald]

lol @ Shiro "trusting" the ultimate liar.

Do you think I'm scum

XD I think she meant Titus. Lol.

No. I understand Sakura's joke because I'm actually appraised of the fandom she is referenceing

[Gamma Emerald]

you were the first to townread me gamma, i clearly remember, so tell me what has changed regarding your feeling on my slot since that townread?

Me feeling your opinions on Titus/Sando could be manipulative/scum agenda-driven

[Gamma Emerald]

regarding hard townread of sakura,

Also would be nice if we didnt scramble so close to EoD. When my internet went down i almost had a heart attack.

1). this reads super genuine to me, and not like scum faking it. she seems to be following through with this too, which is even townier, given her recent change to the titus lynchwagon.

scum are ok with us scrambling very close to EoD, because a). a no-lynch can happen and b). they can keep a distraction like myloninja in the game longer.

2). sakura’s urgency in us not believing the cop claim at the start of day phase when it was bullshit, and instead taking a solid stance that we should not believe it and clearly distracting away from that distraction is super town-motivated

the fact that she’s consistently distracting away from potential distractions just looks so town to me, and not LAMIST-Y/trying to be town. i can remember more instances off memory, but i’d have to deep dive on her to prove it.

You know what this is good enough to alleviate my concerns

wait. of what slot? me or sakura or both?

sakura

[Gamma Emerald]

you were the first to townread me gamma, i clearly remember, so tell me what has changed regarding your feeling on my slot since that townread?

btw any other reads you would like to address?

[Gamma Emerald]

{Frozen Angel, MathBlade, Drixx*}
{stungun0404, Nancy Drew 39, Toranaga*}
{zMuffinMan, Gamma Emerald, hebichan, Sando}
{Creature**, the worst}
{Katsuki, Nosferatu, Kokichi Oma, Shiro, Toogeloo}
{Titus}

ur list is almost upside down smh

I don't see any reason you should be saying this about certain people and it makes me worried this is just shade

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah I highly doubt all scum forgot to vote. they have a fucking chat for reminding themselves. I'm gonna think its more probable that they lied about it or are in the ones that voted the same person who was killed/ or were voting random people/not coordinated so one of them could be molla who was voting you.

It's just wine and really hard to get anything out of it

are we seriously debating whether scum forgot to vote
If scum are in that list it's likely because they lied about it

[Gamma Emerald]

{Frozen Angel, MathBlade, Drixx*}
{stungun0404, Nancy Drew 39, Toranaga*}
{zMuffinMan, Gamma Emerald, hebichan, Sando}
{Creature**, the worst}
{Katsuki, Nosferatu, Kokichi Oma, Shiro, Toogeloo}
{Titus}

ur list is almost upside down smh

I don't see any reason you should be saying this about certain people and it makes me worried this is just shade

the fuck does this post mean

It means I don't like your post

[Gamma Emerald]

Hi
Forgot to vote

VOTE: Creature

kinda vibing FA/Theta never scum with Titus here

I think Titus should also spew Sando town?? but that feels kinda funny

Titus also spews Creature town, fuck off with that vote
I also have stuff logged that I thought was interesting from the stuff I read after thread lock, but not much, and at least one comment is moot

[Gamma Emerald]

Shiro was baiting the mislynch to avoid getting killed I think.

VOTE: the worst

Add "the worst doesn't forget to vote for leader N1" to previous case.

Titus got elected by scum and then they "missed deadline" to hide the vote, seems fairly obvious.

So um why am I not in the running for scum among those who forgot to cast an n1 vote? I don't think anyone has named me for suspicion because of being in this category, and I'm kinda disturbed by how everyone is just overlooking my presence. Do people just not think I exist this game?
And btw I personally would like at least one of (Creature/Sando) as leader picks tonight

[Gamma Emerald]

Also Shiro flip = scum didn't want an Anka mediumship? Talk to me someone

This...actually hit a very important vein in the discussion. I think it's very likely Ank was not given a power n2 and the kill was to cover-up the fact. Any objections?

[Gamma Emerald]

Creature's probably scum tho.
His meta points to Creature scum, and me saying that Titus was busing Creature and she invoking her meta leads me to think that was her intention.

Yeah no
regardless of Titus meta that day end does not happen the way it did with both of them as scum. There was way too much circlejerking, so that means scum weren't piling on their own imo
PEdit: I don't intend to vote you just because you defended scum wtf
I'll evaluate your play itself and make a judgement
but you playing the WiFoMy "oh lynch me now" card doesn't help your case tbh

[Gamma Emerald]

scum kinda helped with the shiro lynch

tbh after the titus flip I was thinking shiro was probably town but a necessary lynch

scum saved the day by killing her

also lolshiro

idrk why
By my own thinking Shiro mediuming Ank = a break in scum's plan, as it would reveal the have a power they weren't supposed to have, so that explains the kill imo

[Gamma Emerald]

I got no results on drixx which... yeah he was never on anyone's PR list

I just thought it was alright to check it cause maybe drixx is scum due to association with titus

drixx used impenetrable skin last night apparently, since I got a one shot use of it.

Hm? I recall drixx being on the n2 list.

[Gamma Emerald]

*Super Strength: Any actions you take this Night Phase cannot be blocked or manipulated.

This is actually saying "any actions" so its a strongman for scum itself if a scum gets this they won't need power negation in first place

@Math we can't be sure titus gave power to town so the misterious scum who was in place of ank the night they killed ank could do it too

But would a super strength on the kill target counter the scum kill super strength

[Gamma Emerald]

The Blade that can cut through any shield.
The Shield that can withstand any weapon.

My friend, you are a person of class

[Gamma Emerald]

p sure shiros an antideathmiller

Ahahaha you fucking dimwit this game isn't bastard, go sit in the corner and stfu and let the adults talk

[Gamma Emerald]

I can only imagine the amount of BS flying around if Shiro were alive and had been negated...I imagine scum would see the same potential, so if scum had it I'd say it was Titus that had that power.

Titus cannot have Power Negate unless Math is scum, both confirmed to each other to have precog

Scum have daychat, Titus could have given powers to another person who picked up precog and was feeding info through scumchat.

This just isn’t a thing lol.

I can confirm I have precog if this is really a paranoia people have especially since I can’t be killed tonight if we lynch (which we should). Titus pretty much knew what power I would take if put up so she used me to try to “townfirm” her and flipped her shit when I didn’t I only confirmed she used the ability. She said she would be “townfirmed” by Ank which again made no sense. Her plans were about making her look good.

The way Titus shaded me means I think I can figure out which gambit she was running or she tried to slander me hard because I generally have a bias towards scumreading her.

Ok this post makes me reconsider my theory on the Shiro kill
but why then, if my theory is wrong?

[Gamma Emerald]

kind of a non presence

weird for gamma

should ISO and see what's up with that at some point

Well keep in mind I'm struggling to keep up with the mile a minute pace
but I don't think non-presence is a fair descriptor

[Gamma Emerald]

FA and titus interactions on d1 makes FA a villager 99% of the time imo

oh btw on this, recall titus did fucking wacko shade spec about FA being wolf-selected and herself being town-selected
this make FA always town imo

[Gamma Emerald]

decent take tho ya Sando and Creature are both in hindsight potential Titus cw's

I don't wanna be wrong on Muffin's slot but also there's a decent chance it is scum

speaking of stuff wrt to muffins (odd tangent but w/e) isn't toog bbmolla's replacer?

[Gamma Emerald]

what do we think of toogeloo? I have no idea what the thread consensus on them is and maybe we should go back to bbmolla's d2 outing that he actually picked titus as leader as something maybe resolvable tbh

oh this confirms my suspicions
So that adds to my desire to kill toog off, cos if he flips scum that kinda clears muffins and cupcake slots imo

[Gamma Emerald]

And titus called me hostile in her last read looking at it now, lmao. Does she think a scum partner is hostile? I even questioned her on why she felt i was hostile

meh my whole POV on you was if you were scum you're manipulating the gamestate in some way so I'm gonna try to jog my memory of what I expected from you on titus scumflip today and if it lines up I'm gonna want you dead

[Gamma Emerald]

What do you think about Gamma Emerald this game?

Advocated policy lynches on what point on posters posting a lot, and yet had a high concentration of relatively low content posts, which makes me want to take another look at him. He was in ank's possibly scum pool --> she had even laid a vote down on him

So yeah i want to reinvestigate there

omfg
1) why would I feel pressured by Ank's one vote. Ank was the only person I saw that suspected me here. Even if there were more, not enough to be a threat. So why are you theorizing based on that?
2) I was watching a youtube video and the dude I was watching referenced Borat just as I prepared to start writing the actual body of this. So great avatar pick, you have just caused the perfect irony

[Gamma Emerald]

Creature (0):

Hey mathblade can you use your votecounter to fetch a vote history of today? I want to log all the people who voted Creature today because that's probably a good place to look for scum

[Gamma Emerald]

If I really wanted to get my hands dirty on a gun-to-head gut read, I'd say Frozen Angel is likely scum. Day 3 I don't actually recall a lot of driving force from her, but I wasn't paying a ton of attention either. I know she didn't vote until near the end of the day, and the posts I remember just felt like she was trying be engaging without heavily defending or attacking any particular player.

Yeah reading this, it'sa just shade and needs brutal murder
VOTE: Toogeloo

[Gamma Emerald]

And titus called me hostile in her last read looking at it now, lmao. Does she think a scum partner is hostile? I even questioned her on why she felt i was hostile

meh my whole POV on you was if you were scum you're manipulating the gamestate in some way so I'm gonna try to jog my memory of what I expected from you on titus scumflip today and if it lines up I'm gonna want you dead

I'm at a pool rn, but just saw this

I replaced into a slot that i had high confidence in was town, so if you want to try and discredit me being town you would have to discredit the reasons i felt this town which i'd gladly explain later

your stance change on me did not seem natural last day phase btw

Yeah buzz off about "not being natural" there was a point where you can CLEARLY see me taking a more critical eye towards you. There's two posts where it happens, if you wanna try and locate them go ahead, maybe I'll cut you some slack

[Gamma Emerald]

Tried to throw bullshit accusations at FA
He says FA didn't vote to the end of the day is suspicious. NO IT'S NOT, it's because she wanted to work out her team!
Also I've got George Carlin on my brain and I'm trying to evoke his speech in my posts (specifically the older ranty George Carlin) but I'm also trying to avoid any personal attacks, which kinda conflicts with the George Carlin vibe

[Gamma Emerald]

It's

L-3

rn i believe guys so let us be cautious

Toog slot is very likely scum but let us spin the length of this day phase to our advantage

question: will i look townier if a toog scum flip happens given i chose this slot easily from the two options bc i thought it was way townier?

Errr you had the ability to choose? That's not the way things are supposed to be dooone

[Gamma Emerald]

We also need to decide if I am doing precog or not or if I am using petrification. Regardless I need to pick up BP tonight it’s mainly I wanna settle that.

I'd prefer precog unless you can find a way to make petrification pro-town

[Gamma Emerald]

It's

L-3

rn i believe guys so let us be cautious

Toog slot is very likely scum but let us spin the length of this day phase to our advantage

question: will i look townier if a toog scum flip happens given i chose this slot easily from the two options bc i thought it was way townier?

Errr you had the ability to choose? That's not the way things are supposed to be dooone

I think it's fair if a player researches both available roles and finds out "ooh i want this one" and claims that one that they can take that role

Lets them control their own fate, and own it if their instincts were wrong

There's actually a definite rule against that
would you like me to quote it

[Gamma Emerald]

who should be elected as leader?

I have one shot BP thing so maybe not me?

I already said I want one of Creature/sando
I'll let math decide which and who the other is (or he can pick both of those)

[Gamma Emerald]

who should be elected as leader?

I have one shot BP thing so maybe not me?

I already said I want one of Creature/sando
I'll let math decide which and who the other is (or he can pick both of those)

I kinda wanna make an impenetrable shield of town. I dunno how I would feel about introducing new people.

What do you mean?

[Gamma Emerald]

also fun fact: im so colorblind i cant even tell skittles apart

i just shove them apart and hope i get green apple

Dude green apple skittles are disgusting
I preferred skittles when they had lime, now my go to fruity snack is starbursts

[Gamma Emerald]

Let's not hammer toog until tomorrow. He said he'd be able to pop in then, and i want to see his defense to mathblade

I wanna see his defense to me, cos I don't think he has anything good he can pull out

[Gamma Emerald]

If someone says cause they were also a wagon when Titus was a wagon, I lose hope in this game

They were also a wagon when Titus was a wagon

[Gamma Emerald]

Also given your play here it would not surprise me at all to see you genuinely forget to vote.

This interests me (and also makes me feel mildly insulted but w/e). Explain?

[Gamma Emerald]

I find it odd that I triggered FA so easily.
I also find it humorous that stun has got me at 100% scum locked.

I will be flipping town. Hold on to your butts.

Vote: Toogeloo

haha you didn't even hammer you scumfuck

[Gamma Emerald]

So I am thinking Sakura Nancy FA Drixx and myself for powers.

It’s pretty much the core block and if you need SS take SS if you need BP take BP.

+ Stungun404

That completes the power list

Then I am thinking Sakura or Drixx for leader.

alright now we just need to divide votes

[Gamma Emerald]

Why has this game suddenly gone quiet?

probably because we're not circlejerking over titus anymore

[Gamma Emerald]

Also given your play here it would not surprise me at all to see you genuinely forget to vote.

This interests me (and also makes me feel mildly insulted but w/e). Explain?

You're posting rarely but in big bursts. Looking at your posting it's basically all in bursts, there's little back and forth throughout the day. You're not engaging in a direct manner, you're catching up and posting all in a burst, then off you go for another day. Not that that's a bad thing, but I can see you missing a day and bam, there goes your voting deadline.

Compare that to duckling (or me) and we'll engage over a longer period. Sure we're about to go to bed (me and duckling are in basically the same timezone) and won't post for 8-10 hours, but once up we'll respond to things said to us within a pretty short period.

In my view, the people who check-in and spampost their days content are more apt to miss a big event if something comes up for them causing them to miss a day, than those who tend to follow the thread in real-time.

I mean I do miss days but that's not why. I forgot because I didn't get anything to remind me to other than the one post at the day end. As for why I'm posting like this it's because I post at a library where I only get 3 hours free of computer time (1 dollar for 45 extra minutes)

[Gamma Emerald]

Sounds like a bunch of japanese vampires (japanese because of the thing where they use r where l would be)

[Gamma Emerald]

Sounds like a bunch of japanese vampires (japanese because of the thing where they use r where l would be)

I'm counting this as an in
also soulreading Gamma doesn't know which instrument TI play yet

Could I be a vocalist?

[Gamma Emerald]

edit: forgot gamma emerald

sakura voters: toranaga (?), nancy drew 39 (?), sando (?), drixx (?), stungun, frozen angel (?), nosferatu (?), gamma emerald (?)

drixx voters: math, sakura, tw (?), katsuki (?), kokichi (?), the worst (?), hebichan (?), theta alpine (?)

I'm fine on sakura

[Gamma Emerald]

Colored Fruit Vendor
Petrification
Reflexive Power Mimicry (in other words you get hit with a power you get it)
Power Echo
Self Detonation (available during the day)
Tracker

reactions:
what even?
Oh no
okay
okay
that seems powerful
okay

[Gamma Emerald]

fair enough i guess, lol :p

pending on a confscum titus flip, possibly toogeloo enters the pool

haha, foresight!

this is exactly the thing I would expect if you were scum setting up for the long game off of Titus' lynch

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm not defeatist, I'm lazy and know it's detrimental to town, and I know half the game suspected me after the Titus thing anyways, so I offered myself up willingly.

stun sees what he wants to see and paints the picture to match. I figure I might as well let him feel good about his reading for now, and then call me terrible tomorrow after my flip. Don't care. I stand by the fact that the game was moving way to fast for any sane player to have an interest in keeping up, and getting me out now is a favor for both me and the town.

the fact you fail to address my suspicion of your FA read tell me you can't think of anything to cover your ass there

[Gamma Emerald]

I kinda don't think Toog is scum though. Like I get why ppl think he could be and maybe the

aTe

is just getting to me. If he's town its fairly commendable that he's willing to get lynched to erase the WIFOM.

yeah no outside of the AtE lynch me bs he's plenty scummy as well.

[Gamma Emerald]

huh kinda sounds like cheetory's paint mechanic, alright
but how can it be used, since the color specification make me curious about possible proof-based uses (basically how to use proving they got it as something AI)

[Gamma Emerald]

shiro's read were so blatantly false. he confscummed me, and suggested fa as a partner. i think he was trying to survive, and thus threw things out that scum might want to keep alive.

and he townread titus--which we all know was bs.

I don't like this post just on principle, it's so nasty and rude

[Gamma Emerald]

back to reviewing the answers to my questions last day phase, which i admittedly got sidetracked from. i plan to be one of scum’s worst nightmares so long as i am alive, so i need to focus on this

gamma emerald is in my possibly scumpool: his answer yesterday on my question can be seen in 5084, wherein he states human sequencer (the predecessor of creature) was kinda scummy but not enough for him to scumread, and that gamma did not remember creature being in the game so that was instant scumpoints out of the gate, and asked me where i had previously asked this or if i had during d2 — but i was not in the game on d2, lol.

reads my long post on creature’s slot later and concludes human sequencer replace-out is nai as they are kinda flaky.

gamma emerald takes a stance thinking creature is scummy, even though he primarily focuses on the titus slot yesterday, who was scum - so that might be something to note as a plausible distancing attempt if anywhere there was one.

but overall, i like that he took a definite stance rather than beating around the bush with his answer here.


——————————-
apart from that, gamma emerald votes kokichi for leader d1 “to see what he would do with the power”, lol. idk if that is town or scum tbh, because there isn’t a protown reason and this could be genuine, but it sure is interesting.

296 from gamma emerald is super strange, given that numbers flipped scum.

309 is kinda awkward too in response to titus.

In post 271, Cerberus v666 wrote:
I'm pretty sure purely random out of 5/22 is almost guaranteed to wind up with a scum. Purely random with a smaller number of people selected *might* be optimal, but really, I think that's a silly line to take.

huh?

why is gamma questioning cerb here? seems to be going with titus’s suggestion of randomization of pr’s, which is slightly concerning.

hmm, i need to take a serious look at gamma here guys!

OK so you says I'm leanscum but you start off with something you...like from me? Weird but I'll leave it.
Seriously? Are you trying to read into my leader vote? I actually have a whole backstory to that so if you care *that* much I can share it.
296 isn't awkward? I thought Cerb might have some sort of opinion on numbers based on what he was saying.
309 you have no context for. Starting in Open 680.1 Titus took this weird "day 1 sucks" stance when I'd never seen it from her as either alignment. Now I know why.
310 Uhhhh me and Cerb discussed beyond that point, and you missing that is a bad sign. I was confused by Cerb's numbers.
Also I might be a bit tonedeaf here but the last line feels forced

[Gamma Emerald]

as of 406 though i’m not real fond of your serious focus on questioning why people are townrading players rather than scumhunting/townhunting in particular yourself.

for as much as gamma wants to policy lynch posters posting a lot in this thread, he sure does have a lot of contentless individual posts himself, which is quite hypocrital.

why is stating a post restriction scum-motivated, as you derived in your 475?

i’m seeing a lot of trying to look town in gamma’s posting, but it’s not exactly content i can say is town. and there is quite a few strange associations with flipped scum :-/

do you have any thoughts on titus, 123456789, human sequencer or gamma emerald?

Why this set of people?

lol 2 of these have flipped scum.
what if they are all scum? including zmuffinman? all alive members are absolutely in my poe pool. the fact that zmuffinman asked about 2 scum there is kinda strange, i guess. but maybe he doesn’t do that with his partners, idk?

otherwise why is gamma asking about this pool? seeing 2 flipped scum in there is kinda strange for gamma’s sake; also looks like gamma was in ank’s questionably scum pool — which already was right with titus.

there is a lot of hypocritical material in gamma’s iso, lol. why have we been townreading him?

406 isn't my fucking post...???
And where did I want to policy lynch someone who "posted a lot"? The only policy I recall advocating was policying people faking guilties that were downright impossible.
As for the post restriction, now I KNOW you're ignoring answers I've posted in thread. I clearly specified that it was excusing lack of content. I was wrong about it being scum indicative (based on meta), but I was right about my theory of intent.
I asked about Zmuffin's grouping because it seemed randomly generated and I wanted to know what tied those together.
And because Ank was right about Titus you think I'm scum because I was in his pool? Uhhh what. Even if he was right I wouldn't give a shit because he wasn't getting anything done with the read.
PEdit: wait I thought my scumday was tomorrow?

[Gamma Emerald]

1-9 -- why the different style of read list?

Pls no reviving jokes after death mafia

quote="In post 1639, the worst"]VOTE: 123456789 if I wasn't already

sheeps main lynch wagon on scum player

ooo someone else isn't liking zMuffle

VOTE: zMuffin

sheeps sando

VOTE: Sando

my brain feels like its full of nails



pedit: too much information

if you feel like your brain is full of nails in trying to comprehend a player being scum, then why vote and thus encourage their wagon to pick up steam?

VOTE: stungun0404

no attached reason, but immediately follows mathblade

i mean these votes/progressions are just... strange. they come off as very scummy; i’d like to see more original insight from tw on some players being scummy/towny.[/quote]
You need to learn to townhunt, every time I see you sort someone they come up scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

Kind of reminds me of Titus bus on Varsoon when she was dying.

did you just case yourself

[Gamma Emerald]

I understand the suspicion on both kokichi (who did dick the whole game) and gamma

gamma is being quite the nonpresence, it's weird

I'm still lynching bbmolla for association with titus

Again
CAN'T REALLY BE PRESENT FOR A GAME THAT GOES A MILE A MINUTE RN

[Gamma Emerald]

i never explicitly said i scumleaned on you

really because that's the conclusion you seem to be reaching
also please address the fact you missed my explanation for finding Katsuki's post restriction scummy

[Gamma Emerald]

You need to learn to townhunt, every time I see you sort someone they come up scum.

what? i have been townhunting like hella

check out my stance on sando yesterday, my stance on fa, my stance on mathblade, my stance on toranaga, my stance on sakura hana, my stance on drixx and my stance on nancydrew and the evolution of all of them.

sakura, sando, and fa in particular i have made strong cases for being town. they are all in my iso, unless you want me to dig them up

Yeah but they're obvtown and you didn't need to sort them like you're doing rn

[Gamma Emerald]

in fact, the majority thought he was probably scum...

Fair

[Gamma Emerald]

i never explicitly said i scumleaned on you

really because that's the conclusion you seem to be reaching
also please address the fact you missed my explanation for finding Katsuki's post restriction scummy

i had to go hard-digging to find this lol.

but "because it excuses a lack of readable content" is that right? i think to an extent that can be applicable, however it may also be a ploy town could make to avoid being a nk option if they both a). have good reads and b). people know they have good reads. this would be plausible given that katsuki kept her vote on titus all of d3, but then again it is kinda strange in context that that happened, and she ended up first on the wagon. what made katsuki so dead certain titus was scum?

You know what that's a good counterpoint, because I know Ellibereth will try her (his? never sure) best to avoid doing anything early in order to get to the phases where they can figure things out

[Gamma Emerald]

So what's the consensus scumpool rn?

why do you care?

[Gamma Emerald]

Town block says (this is an example it may need tweaking )
Sando you blow up on Worst
Nos you blow up on Kokichi
Creature you blow up on Hebichan
Tor you blow up on Theta
Stun you blow up on <fuck I forget who is left in the pool>

if kokichi cannot obtain powers

i will take up the mantle to put him out of his misery

Why did you edit me out of the list
While I'd rather remain in the game, it just seems weird, I don't recall you explicitly townreading me

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE:
Cos we still need to work things out

[Gamma Emerald]

Town block says (this is an example it may need tweaking )
Sando you blow up on Worst
Nos you blow up on Kokichi
Creature you blow up on Hebichan
Tor you blow up on Theta
Stun you blow up on Gamma

if kokichi cannot obtain powers

i will take up the mantle to put him out of his misery

Why did you edit me out of the list
While I'd rather remain in the game, it just seems weird, I don't recall you explicitly townreading me

You weren’t taken out I forgot you existed and fixed it in a later post

No that was to Nos

[Gamma Emerald]

zmuffinman’s slot had a very early wagon push by a handful of sketchy players on d1 running contrary to titus AND numbers wagon. it is unlikely theta’s slot is scum, but possible

Zmuffin is a better player than to post that dumb meta argument. It’s a BoP read and Theta has lurksacked.

muffin a good player lol. Also kinda think he's town if Drixx is scum, idk.

Can someone please tell me if im overthinking it? Cerb had a 75% town read on Titus and a 99% town read on Drixx, but idk if this means that there's a connection between scum!Titus and Drixx or im just getting paranoid.

y would town Shiro that has a slight misread on Titus connect Drixx and Titus?

I was kinda hoping you'd justify your vote on me

[Gamma Emerald]

wanted to see if you got all OMGUSy like you do as town.

But like, you just voted me, you didn't put any weight behind it. I normally get OMGUSy when there's a reason present I find bad, like in RFB rematch where I got OMGUSy with you because your suggestion to me felt surreptitious (And yes I AM ceding that it was OMGUS that game).

[Gamma Emerald]

So what's the consensus scumpool rn?

why do you care?

because I didn't feel like just parking on Toogeloo.

okay
cos you generally opt for consensus reads as scum and that had me a bit worried

[Gamma Emerald]

hrmmmm...I swore we were in another game where you were town and YOU SWORE UP AND DOWN that your RFB was not an OMGUS. So it feels a little strange to me that you are admiting to OMGUSy play here.

Civ 5 UPick yeah
I thought about it and realized that yeah it pretty much was OMGUS. And what wrong with OMGUSy reads? I think it's totally normal to read people based off their interactions with you.

[Gamma Emerald]

hrmmmm...I swore we were in another game where you were town and YOU SWORE UP AND DOWN that your RFB was not an OMGUS. So it feels a little strange to me that you are admiting to OMGUSy play here.

Civ 5 UPick yeah
I thought about it and realized that yeah it pretty much was OMGUS. And what wrong with OMGUSy reads? I think it's totally normal to read people based off their interactions with you.

There's nothing really wrong with it. The majority of our attackers are going to be town though so that's why things like Slayers gambit are pretty much fucking fail. Who is scum and why.

Toog because he tried to shade FA who is pretty much locktown over something that there was a clear in-thread reason for.
Beyond that I have very little concrete suspicions but given that town is coming out ahead I really don't care. I do find stun a little shifty at times however.

[Gamma Emerald]

@tw, @gamma where are all of your town stances right now?

because for as much as you guys are complaining about my town stances, i have taken 9 as of this day phase and last that apply right now:
locktown: fa
near locktown: sando, sakura hana, mathblade
heavy duty town: toranaga
heavy townlean: drixx, nancydrew39
likely town: nosferatu, theta alpine —> both of these derived from a quick vca lookover.

so if you think i’m not taking enough stances, then help me out here sorting the other players!

Not sure rn and don't care to configure it rn, remind me tomorrow
but I don't really have a problem with the townblock

[Gamma Emerald]

@tw, @gamma where are all of your town stances right now?

because for as much as you guys are complaining about my town stances, i have taken 9 as of this day phase and last that apply right now:
locktown: fa
near locktown: sando, sakura hana, mathblade
heavy duty town: toranaga
heavy townlean: drixx, nancydrew39
likely town: nosferatu, theta alpine —> both of these derived from a quick vca lookover.

so if you think i’m not taking enough stances, then help me out here sorting the other players!

Okay this is my thinking on which slot I feel are solidly town
townblock: Drixx, Frozen Angel, MathBlade, Sakura Hana, Nancy Drew 39 (I forgot the sixth person)
townreads: Creature, Toranaga, Sando
townreads conditional on Toog scumflip: Theta Alpine, Nero Cain
thank you for bringing this up again stun

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeh, top five besides Toogeloo

oh is this a thing now

[Gamma Emerald]

FA, check #205 by titus. I find the flat out assumption that scum coordinated their votes to you strange. also her entire ISO is just these mechanical talking points that aren't solid towny thoughts.

Hi. I don't think we've met. I'm the queen of votes and mechanics. I detest d1 because there is little of either. D1 is people trying to puff up themselves.

Oh we finally get the reasoning for this
thank fuck

gamma, was this sarcasm?

no
I explained this to stun but tl;dr I didn't understand why Titus had been taking a day 1 sucks stance for a while and I was glad to have an explanation
What I'm curious about is why does everyone care about this one post? What alignment indicative information do you hope to get out of it?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'll act as a second flavour mod since someone used a post restriction power on me that forces me to have to post a youtube vid in each post. It's rather obnoxious so I'll probably just make empty flavour posts.

VOTE: Katsuki
This is both impossible/a lie and a scum-motivated post

how was this a scum motivated post?

I won't even bother explaining this one, it comes later in my ISO

[Gamma Emerald]

“Rule of the 3”?

I guess I suck at translating Titus-speak.

that's not titus speak in the slightest, WHAT
It's an MU(?) thing where in a group of three posted by a wolf there's likely another wolf in there somewhere

[Gamma Emerald]

gamma can also probably die

Given the only things you thought to bring to me were rather lame questions, I think you shouldn't put too much faith in this read
PEdit: OKay that explanation should be pretty clear, I'll fetch it since you're too lazy to find it
as for my current read, LOOK UP. For a more detailed answer, I'm leaning town on Katsuki already from yesterday where it was a wagon endorsed by Titus iirc but a Toog scumflip seals the deal because I don't feel like BBmolla and Katsuki's slots could be buddies

[Gamma Emerald]

FA led the counter-wagon to Mylo, Gamma and Nos were pretty happy about that.

WHAT THE FUCK
This is a misrep-and-a-half, I was definitely bitching and moaning about not getting a Sando lynch.
I swear everyone is just BSing a scumread on me at this point
Now I'm not so confident in this "bomb the suspicious people" plan, because it gives me FakeGod dance game chills. Specifically, the point of "bombing takes away info that can be gained by wagoning" seems to carry over.

[Gamma Emerald]

but you never said anything about titus before making this post, and titus doesn't explain to any depth what "reasoning" she had for any of "this" as far as d1 goes. it feels pretty random from you to comment on this, and if many people are caring about that post of yours, it's because it's a wolfy post.

I don't think you get it
>Titus in several past games goes "I Hate d1"
> I go "WTF she wasn't like this when I first played with her, what prompted this"
> Titus explains here
> I go "well there's that"
IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND
I can understand why people think it's wolfy from it being my first comment towards Titus, but I'd at least like people to understand the thought process behind the post.

[Gamma Emerald]

gamma can also probably die

Given the only things you thought to bring to me were rather lame questions, I think you shouldn't put too much faith in this read
PEdit: OKay that explanation should be pretty clear, I'll fetch it since you're too lazy to find it
as for my current read, LOOK UP. For a more detailed answer, I'm leaning town on Katsuki already from yesterday where it was a wagon endorsed by Titus iirc but a Toog scumflip seals the deal because I don't feel like BBmolla and Katsuki's slots could be buddies

it was not endorsed by titus, no

titus voted there for lack of alternatives but she was "scumreading" sando and creature, not katsuki

read better? LOOK UP?

Okay so despite acknowledging she voted there, which somewhat supports my theory and at least makes it understandable even if wrong, you still think me drawing that conclusion is wolfy? This strikes me as you just construing everything I post as wolfy, and I'm done townreading you because of it.

[Gamma Emerald]

I will renominate kokichi for leader tomorrow.

I want Cerb! *arm wrestles hebi*

I will renom Kokichi unless I deem it inappropriate

I'll act as a second flavour mod since someone used a post restriction power on me that forces me to have to post a youtube vid in each post. It's rather obnoxious so I'll probably just make empty flavour posts.

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95% sure you are lying as everyone started vanilla, and I find it doubtful has a post restriction pre-game ability. Besides, if they did, why would the use it on you if all people?

Why would anyone make something like this up?

Because it excuses a lack of readable content?

Okay so it might not be that easy to find because it wasn't in direct response to someone responding to my post but here's my post telling why I thought Katsuki's faked post restriction was scum-motivated

[Gamma Emerald]

you NEVER said "wtf she wasn't like this" or anything like that in the thread. that post where you go "finally we got an explanation" is your first mention of titus unless I missed something in your ISO.

BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME SHE'D SAID IT. IT WAS THE FIRST TIME SHE'D GIVEN AN ACTUAL REASONING FOR IT DEAR CHRIST HOW DENSE ARE YOU

[Gamma Emerald]

yeah that's stretchy reasoning wrt katsuki, gamma

not sure those are genuine thoughts you had on katsuki

looks bad

scumread me at will

pedit: you were looking for titus to say "d1 sucks" as an explanation for her awful posting wrt stuff that isn't explained away by the fact that she thinks d1 sucks.

THAT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE WRT TITIS D1 SUCKS STUFF

[Gamma Emerald]

are you doing work in the game or just coming here to defend yourself?

what do you think of nancy?

I'd like to comment on other things but when everyone in the game seems to just toss me into the scumpile I get a little upset
As for Nancy, outside of being in the townblock I don't find her too exceptional. I'm with math in that she's probably the first of the townblock that would be going if there's scum there.

[Gamma Emerald]

and what is nancy doing to deserve being on the townblock anyway? have you read her ISO?

Did you not see that I said "nothing exceptional"? I don't know myself what she's done. I'm just following because I don't think objecting will get anything done at this point of the game and if it gets to the point where scum has to be in the townblock, unless something goes horribly wrong, it is covered. And no I have not read her ISO.

[Gamma Emerald]

and what is nancy doing to deserve being on the townblock anyway? have you read her ISO?

Did you not see that I said "nothing exceptional"? I don't know myself what she's done. I'm just following because I don't think objecting will get anything done at this point of the game and if it gets to the point where scum has to be in the townblock, unless something goes horribly wrong, it is covered. And no I have not read her ISO.

I don't see any reason to townblock nancy and don't know why people are still doing it

toogeloo's recent post was bad, too. he doesn't wanna play the game so let's just string him up. but regardless of what it flips, we kill creature tomorrow and don't listen to anything math has to say, yes?

you need better town captain than math. @FA I don't see you efforting. game needs you.

Why do we string up Creature regardless of Toog's alignment and what Math says?
And Math isn't really the game captain I think? He's just spearheading because he's today's leader.

[Gamma Emerald]

yeah that's stretchy reasoning wrt katsuki, gamma

not sure those are genuine thoughts you had on katsuki

looks bad

scumread me at will

pedit: you were looking for titus to say "d1 sucks" as an explanation for her awful posting wrt stuff that isn't explained away by the fact that she thinks d1 sucks.

THAT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE WRT TITIS D1 SUCKS STUFF

Why are you so shocked that Toranga would post something like this? I think Math could possibly be right.

I mean after you quoted it it made more sense but Tor was making such an awful conclusion it was hurting my brain

[Gamma Emerald]

are you doing work in the game or just coming here to defend yourself?

what do you think of nancy?

I'd like to comment on other things but when everyone in the game seems to just toss me into the scumpile I get a little upset
As for Nancy, outside of being in the townblock I don't find her too exceptional. I'm with math in that she's probably the first of the townblock that would be going if there's scum there.

Since when is Math an expert on me? This is only our second game together. I do know how much Math hates mislynches based on Labrynh.

That's not what I meant but w/e

[Gamma Emerald]

Who is UFO?

Toranaga

[Gamma Emerald]

I also don't wolfread mathblade but you have to not know mathblade if you don't think they'd flat out hardcore bus titus as soon as they subbed in

if anyone is interested, read mastina's mod is mafia to just how hard mathblade can hard push titus as w/w

yeah no mathblade doesn't autobus Titus just cos, I was in giFpick where both of them were scum and they were very amicable, and there is a very clear rule-of-thumb that honestly I kinda forgot until I thought of that game, which is Math/titus of opposite alignments will get into a fight.

[Gamma Emerald]

@tw, @gamma where are all of your town stances right now?

because for as much as you guys are complaining about my town stances, i have taken 9 as of this day phase and last that apply right now:
locktown: fa
near locktown: sando, sakura hana, mathblade
heavy duty town: toranaga
heavy townlean: drixx, nancydrew39
likely town: nosferatu, theta alpine —> both of these derived from a quick vca lookover.

so if you think i’m not taking enough stances, then help me out here sorting the other players!

Okay this is my thinking on which slot I feel are solidly town
townblock: Drixx, Frozen Angel, MathBlade, Sakura Hana, Nancy Drew 39 (I forgot the sixth person)
townreads: Creature, Toranaga, Sando
townreads conditional on Toog scumflip: Theta Alpine, Nero Cain
thank you for bringing this up again stun

no problem, but


@ i forgot the sixth person, can’t you just decipher that from the player list?

I used to playerlist to make my list.

explain townread of creature. you were scumreading both hs and creature when i asked you about the slot yesterday. what has changed there?

Neither read was a hard scumread, and the way the end of Day 3 happened, no way is Creature scum with Titus.

how is either of theta alpine or nero cain town-spewed with toog scumflip?

You weren't around when I commented on this, but BBmolla started going after katsuki and muffins when I felt those two were starting to contribute, so I felt like that was an opportunistic scum push. As such Toog scum makes Theta and Nero town imo since those are the ones who replaced into those slots.

i don’t understand how you are gathering some of these reads; the progressions seem slightly strange—and the same thing seems to be the basis of why you are not townreading me right now. not necessarily scummy, just strange with a hint of hypocrisy.

Idrk why I should townread you? You're being active which is nice, but I also feel like some of your behavior could be scummy. As such I don't have a comfortable townread on you, which is what I listed in that line.

and what made you personally townread drixx? or nancydrew?

You are aware that says townblock right? That means regardless of my read I'm townbinning them because the general consensus, which I actually trust right now, townreads them.

[Gamma Emerald]

My only worry is that scum somehow manages to kill me by either of those 3 things and we get a scum leader again.

I think if scum has a factional means of overriding all superpowers, then it would make this game unfairly scumsided.

Before we found out about SS, I did wonder about a factional strongman but it would seem unlikely.

I don’t know what would happen if two players used SS on each other, probably their rival actions would fail? I should ask the mod about that but that would be my guess.

the first few posts should address this, I went and read them while bored and saw a lot of questions were answered there

[Gamma Emerald]

are we fine lynching now

[Gamma Emerald]

it lowkey bothers me that you will not reexplain things and expect people to take their time to dig through a 300+ post iso to find your explanation when you could simply state it again yourself, or refer to the post yourself.

Well it highkey bothers me that people consistently ask the same damn questions I've already answered

[Gamma Emerald]

So I tried to read what was posted since last time but it's all mechanics being worked out and I don't wanna have to read 10 pages of that

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh boy this has me a little topsy-turvy because those are the exact slots I thought BBmolla was shady for pushing
I'm thinking it's gonna be bye-bye previous theory, because it looks like distancing
so yeah tl;dr, if toog flips scum I'm gonna be looking at Nero and Theta rather than away from them

[Gamma Emerald]

I am going to bed now Drixx. If you see any issue with this or have any other questions please speak up about it.

I think the safe spot is 4 bombs but can check my notes later.

Colored Fruit Vendor
Petrification
Reflexive Power Mimicry (in other words you get hit with a power you get it)
Power Echo
Self Detonation (available during the day)
Tracker

Still at work people

upon reflection, idk if those bombs would be more useful then say tracker abilities which tons of town players could all together claim and thus try to trace who performs the nk. like, that could be a fucking brilliant plan given our current PoE pool. all town goes for the tracker ability and traces players they find suss.

like, we could plan on tracking a variety of players (maybe even outright plan in the thread six different players), come back, and if those we tracked DO NOT account for the nk or somebody is killed within the pool, then we know that pool of players does not conclusively encompass all scum within—or else scum killed a player that tracked them. there is thus a scum member beyond that group of players we track.

this plan is especially effective if there are only 2 scum remaining after day.

this is a decent plan but I think it's a bit clumsy unless we have 1 scum remaining
but I'd probably be for it anyway

[Gamma Emerald]

the only caveat of that plan is that we’d have to choose town players that are not utilizing the bulletproof vest, right?

yes

[Gamma Emerald]

actually what if the trackers are scum? I just thought of a countermeasure: circle tracking. though again this could also be hashed out tomorrow

[Gamma Emerald]

what is the plan today

[Gamma Emerald]

what is the plan today

Here:

For the bombing plan.

[Creature, Hebi], [Theta, Gamma], [Nosferatu, TW] [Kokichi]

The pairs one of them will get bomb and kill the other, the solo is who we lynch today.
I paired Creature and Hebi coz Creature SRs Hebi so if either is town, they have lots of incentive to bomb the other.

Now.
Here's a plan.
Nero and FA run for leadership, Nero goes for tracker or self watcher while Drixx protects Nero since Nero cant protect himself, Tora either checks Drixx again or checks Nero and then that will give us a ton of info on what scum may have if a power negate lands somewhere along those lines.

Meanwhile the bombing squad knows what to do.

Quoting both of these to leave them in a single post.

And the last power madam?

I had already planned on FA so we were thinking similarly there.

Now it’s all in one post

alright

[Gamma Emerald]

475 is and apparently his only push up to this point???

I'll have you know around the start of the game I had a system going where I kept my questions logged and pushed for answers to them

[Gamma Emerald]

If he's played with Katsuki before I'm not sure why he spent most of d1 pushing him for low content.

i guess i could be like confbiased at this point but it seems scummy that he's like pushing sando over titus d3? that was his main push for a while and like he still clearly remembers it but he seems to have decided that he'll be pushing sando instead?

I hadn't played with katsuki either
I just figured it was really strange they'd never played together since I figured there should have been some overlap
as for pushing sando over titus I thought only one was scum, and I had a stronger scumread on sando for d2 and most of d3.

[Gamma Emerald]

also I see we're not bombing, so what's the plan now?

[Gamma Emerald]

475 is and apparently his only push up to this point???

I'll have you know around the start of the game I had a system going where I kept my questions logged and pushed for answers to them

ok so can you show me like what you did with the answers to those questions? it's definitely possible I missed something but?

That I don't really recall putting much effort into but w/e

[Gamma Emerald]

Nero: Tora
Tora: Nero, Ausuka

So we're doing this again.

I guess I'll vote for nero?

[Gamma Emerald]

that ultimately only benefits scum

I don't really think it does though.

My job isn't to be the most obvious townie who ever towned and get myself night killed straightaway

it

kinda

should. Like if scum aren't killing you it means you're not a threat to the scum team. Besides maybe questionable optimal PR play, town should always try to be a threat to scum. Of course, there are some town that are like "Well I'm going to be useless all game and then be townie late game."

BP negates one "strength" of kills. Add strongman and it's a +2 kill so it needs BP plus another protection.

This is bullshit.

This is exactly the wording the mod gives. If the mod is describing the powers in this game as "levels" or "layers", then I'm not gonna argue. Take out the word "strongman" and put in some other word that just makes the kill into a Kill+1 and stop being a pedant.

Actually that's a mechanic in ToS so maybe I'll look that up and give what ToS says about it

[Gamma Emerald]

What about lynching Hebi? or Gamma?

could do hebi.

Gamma idk, he felt town.

you were ok with me dieing before, huh?

[Gamma Emerald]

so should I just vote kokichi since he's never going to participate?

[Gamma Emerald]

what is kokichi at

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, someone needs to ask if the "vig shot" ends the day. If it does then there's no point in doing it.

Wait there's a vig ability tomorrow?

[Gamma Emerald]

uh what

[Gamma Emerald]

Echoing Drixx > Drixx.

does that work?

[Gamma Emerald]

WHY ARE WE DISCUSSING VIG ABILITIES

[Gamma Emerald]

WHAT I MEAN IS WHERE WAS IT STATED THOSE EXISTED

[Gamma Emerald]

ok then, but is self-detonation one-shot? If not then we have a VERY dangerous combo

[Gamma Emerald]

w/e
I think tor is prolly town

[Gamma Emerald]

so uhh what are we trying to do here?

[Gamma Emerald]

so uhh what are we trying to do here?

How caught up are you?

I pretty much gave up trying to read everything start of day 4

[Gamma Emerald]

ok then, but is self-detonation one-shot? If not then we have a VERY dangerous combo

No, only in the case of mimicry or evhoe. Mimicry lasts a bit longer if I understand correctly.

Yeah I know it's multi-use now
that's something we should definitely use imo

[Gamma Emerald]

This is also the most pages I've ever seen lol

750 is the max. We're nowhere close.

[Gamma Emerald]

Y E S

scum needs to BUS THE FUCK OUT of their team mates to win this ridiculously townsided setup

well great now that i think about it

VOTE: mathblade

anyone who wants to should read mod is mafia
math did the same thing in that game to titus [titus was previously in a hydra in that slot]

math also used a mechanical advantage in that game [posting votecounts] in order to become an asset to town

this feels gross

[Gamma Emerald]

also why did hebi become a wagon

[Gamma Emerald]

Kokichi, Sando, Gamma, Nosferatu, Creature, Theta Alpine, TW

5th is going to be one of these btw.
So im mostly interested if all of them understand the plan.

Nope
what;s the plan

[Gamma Emerald]

Kokichi, Sando, Gamma, Nosferatu, Creature, Theta Alpine, TW

All of you give me your reads.

I don't think much has changed since I gave my reads on Stungun's request, probably just Tor becoming firmly town and theta/nero not being as town

[Gamma Emerald]

@Everyone:

Have you all read and understood the plan? If you end up being the 5th you know what to do right?

I mean the team is obvious so im not sure why im not mentioning it anyway, but current team is Ausuka, Nero, Tora, Nancy, The 5th

Can you quote the plan to me? If so then yes I will understand the plan.

Kokichi, Sando, Gamma, Nosferatu, Creature, Theta Alpine, TW

5th is going to be one of these btw.
So im mostly interested if all of them understand the plan.

Nope
what;s the plan

The 5th/6th needs to pick Power Echo, then echo Drixx onto UFO/Toranga.

so whoever in that list is selected needs to take that action? okay.

[Gamma Emerald]

MathBlade

has been elected Day 6 and Night 6 Leader.

how did this even happen?

[Gamma Emerald]

Nero: Ausuka, Sakura, Tora, Nancy
Ausuka: Nero, Creature, Drixx, Gamma, hebichan, Kokichi, Math, Nosferatu, Sando, Theta, TW. (Just remove whoever gets lynched)

sakura petrified so her vote didn't count

but unless there's 4 wolves, nero should have got this

I said I was voting Nero?

[Gamma Emerald]

we lynch scum or we lose right fucking now btw. wanna win? find scum that isn't mathblade.

how does this work?

[Gamma Emerald]

oh

we lost

who had healing touch again
and you are aware town being in a bind does not auto equal a loss?

[Gamma Emerald]

they will nuke the game dude

it's like...

look, if it's 4 wolves we lost pretty much

they just have a festival of scummy stuff to pick from tonight. there are many ways town is getting nuked

Um the game is confirmed 18:5 you carping nutcase

[Gamma Emerald]

the others will just power echo mathblade onto town

whoever is a wolf will kill someone tonight. that's how bad this is. we don't lynch wolf, it's pretty over

Hm, I see

[Gamma Emerald]

You are aware that no lynching deprives leader of death immunity right? That's an option.

[Gamma Emerald]

OH KILL HIM NOW OK I LIKE IT

Yeah if I'm right then Math fucked up and put us into Mylo, so he's killable NOW.

no? 10 alive, 3 scum alive, not mylo

[Gamma Emerald]

for someone who supposedly lied about precog he got exactly half of the powers correct
scum may have the ability to reroll half of the powers list

if that's the case, that's nearly bastard

[Gamma Emerald]

well you don't know that and I'm not exploding nancy, who is the only person left that can heal sakura, because of what you think.

So nancy either heals sakura or gets nuked?

[Gamma Emerald]

if you really think math is scum then why no vote on him

BECAUSE IT DOESN'T WORK

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Mathblade
but the bold typo has nice dramatic effect.

Unfortunately, we can’t lynch him until tomorrow.

really
because that would mean we are not in mylo or lylo

What are you suggesting?

[Gamma Emerald]

it's actually 9 town alive and 3 scum alive but continue

oops, me can'ty count

[Gamma Emerald]

you don't understand how math being leader incriminates you? that's rather incredible.

I think scum stuffed the ballot box to screw me over :/ I just started reading on my lunch break...and I am just ...fuck :/

It’s kind of a brilliant plan.

Use a scum factional to fuck with my precog and then another to make me leader.

Then town mislynches the only healer and scum coast forcing me to have to vig scum tonight.

Like damn.

This is where I'm at tbh
Like the initial plan had me on Tor, but I voted Nero. So it's practically impossible for math to be scum right?

[Gamma Emerald]

ausuka or whoever it was actually
point is MY VOTE CHANGES THINGS

[Gamma Emerald]

Math would not have won a tie.

wait how are ties resolved again?
Also, probably going to skip to the last page from this because I see that people are getting the ramifications of my vote

[Gamma Emerald]

Drixx/Nero obvious leaders tonight.

Drixx/Nero/Sando/Creature/Kokichi for powers? We need to leash Math imo still.

With 1 scum alive I think they can still petrify+kill potentially?

Drixx voters - Sando, Nero, Math, Creature, Gamma
Nero voters - Drixx, Kokichi, the worst, Nos

Drixx and Nero should both take goo and use it I think, no-one else does anything.

I agree to powers list

I plan on SS suicide bombing whoever of Tor/Gamma isn’t lynched since that should be gg
I plan to vote Drixx

Can I go to bed now?

Excuse me, why are you considering bombing me?

[Gamma Emerald]

That said, don't remove your vote, I need two more people other than Math to check in.

So it's pretty obvious scum have petrify on both of them, right? Which nights were petrify available again, that should help solve this

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh never mind, MC is targeted in the preceeding night phase, and we got petrified echo'd.

We good. Sorry for the scare.

Math is 100% confirmed scum through petrification though, he's the only person alive with it. The 2nd petrification would be the hidden person Titus put up using Echo.

or that
either way, if we lynch scum today we will probably be in 3p lylo tomorrow

[Gamma Emerald]

For reference, petrification was only available nights 3 and 5, when the leaders were both town so we can assume they aren't lying about who they submitted:

N3 Leader+Picks - (FA) Mathblade Sakura Shiro drixx nancy
N5 Leader+Picks - (Sakura), Nero, FA, Tora, Kokichi, Drixx

All of N3 except Mathblade are dead/petrified
All of N5 are dead/petrified

FA slot is town, so doesn't that confirm Mathblade as scum? (unless scum are being ballsy here petrifying their own)
tbh this actually reminds me of what happened at the end of SU2 (I didn't play but I watched the events towards the end)

[Gamma Emerald]

Good luck last villain.

I have a LOT to say post game to people but I feel saying anything now hurts my last buddy.

Alright then
so now it's strategy time?

[Gamma Emerald]

A nightcore fan I see
First Lindsey Stirling now this, your music tastes kinda align with mine

[Gamma Emerald]

So either someone I cleared based on being a counter to Titus is scum
or it's tw