Including votes? I would PM you but this is kinda relevant to everyone.In post 2, drealmerz7 wrote:- be aware that once you submit an action, there is no taking it back
Not sure if that's the reason that there's been no RVS :3
Including votes? I would PM you but this is kinda relevant to everyone.In post 2, drealmerz7 wrote:- be aware that once you submit an action, there is no taking it back
Wow. You're going to shoot me just because I don't know how tags work?In post 67, Srceenplay wrote:He gets the first vig shot.In post 65, Venmar wrote:Found one BOYSIn post 41, mutantdevle wrote:What's with these heal and hurt tags? Do they mean anything?
I just won't give reads thenIn post 84, Almost50 wrote:Actually, If I was the Vig I'd shoot you first because you always have extra-terrible reads (by your own admission), so you're a liability.
I thought about just believing the opposite of my own reads but I don't think I'm THAT off. I've found my gut reads are usually more accurate but, obviously, I can never pursue them due to little substance. Tbh though I often feel like my reads are no more accurate than an RNG.In post 105, Almost50 wrote:OR.. you give your reads naturally and we use your readlist upside down!
If both cult leaders want to recruit our targets then one of them is going to fail to recruit meaning our numbers stay larger for longer. It also puts pressure on the cult leaders as they are in a WIFOM situation where the cult that recruits the earliest is the one that gains the extra member whilst the other does not. However, the earlier they recruit, the more chance they risk that the wagon will fail and a different target will be chosen.In post 114, Venmar wrote:I too would expect that the immunity vote would resolve first, since cults could then just exclusively recruit our targets without us knowing, nullifying our main tool of keeping people immune for the entire game.
Yes, it says in the 2nd post. I made the same mistake :PIn post 144, Inferno390 wrote:@MOD, can we change our vote?
It could rush them into recruiting someone who may not be the best idea to recruit.In post 149, Cerberus v666 wrote:3) Anything else?
I'm not specifically saying you are a cult leader, but it wouldn't surprise me if you were and I can see why others think that, and you defensiveness doesn't help. I understand being defensive, I can be quite defensive too at times, but you started heavily defending yourself from a single accusation against you and it feels like an overreaction. Combine this with how scummy you come across at times and I think you'd look to most as the most plausible clan leader. Of course, players are going to be scummy at times since, unless you are unrecruitable, you are not strictly 'town'. But your scumminess feels more anti-survivor than it does anti-town.In post 584, Inferno390 wrote:B) This is totally shading me as CL. I'm getting tired of this.
In post 317, Dunkerdoodles wrote:oh btw im unrecruitable so don't bother trying
In post 417, drealmerz7 wrote:I would like to inform all of you that only Virgins may be recruited, the number of you totaling 16
Is it just me or does this imply that Dunker lied to us? He claims he is unrecruitable yet the flavour suggests DunkerIn post 417, drealmerz7 wrote:Creature and Dunkerdoodles have recently been spotted sneaking out of the toolshed out back - hair and clothes all askew Perhaps they should erase the V?
Virgin count: 14
If that's true then I have no idea why he would target Creature of all people or why his ability would activate before the end of this Play/Pause cycle. Only Dunker could really answer this unless Creature actually knows something about it.In post 604, Cerberus v666 wrote:Looks to me like he had a triggered ability to make himself and somekne else immune
The WIFOM gambit isn't about winning anything. Doing this may well in most occasions achieve nothing, but the WIFOM works more in our favour as at least implements doubt. We don't lose anything from it, but there is a chance we can gain from it, not a high chance, but it's better than nothing. We're obviously not going to find any game breaking plans, I don't know why you'd be expecting that. I don't get why your attitude is that if it doesn't make a major difference then we shouldn't do it. Most of us will spend this game having no idea and no power to what's going on, but that doesn't mean we should just give up in trying anything. Any small amount of power we have we should hold onto to try and maximise my play.In post 613, Varsoon wrote:You answered your own query there, homeboy.In post 597, mutantdevle wrote:I don't get why people are complaining that the plan of running someone up high to lure the recruitment to them and then all unvoting so that our immunisation actually goes through on whoever we target next is such a bad idea. [Snip]
Overall, the whole process is WIFOM.
Who do you think wins the WIFOM gambit--2 players who can submit an action at literally any time or those two players mixed into the rest of us, who are openly discussing if we're gonna pull out or not?
It's pointless and, if the game, by design, requires us to use voting exploitation to win, then it's a fool's errand from the start.
I thought this would be obvious? Like the signup thread specifically states that not everyone will know if they are recruitable or not. There's also a 2nd standard role card that isn't titled virgin. But for those of us with role cards that specifically state we can be recruited by both cults, it's safe to assume we are not immune due to there supposedly being no mod lies.In post 614, Inferno390 wrote:"not virgin" =/= "immune,"
LYNCH ALL LIARS!!! Oh wait...In post 617, Dunkerdoodles wrote:also btw i wasn't unrecruitable before i just lied to see if people would believe me or not
My main question isn't about who did it or why they would choose those 2, my main question is why would such action resolve before the end of the cycle? It makes me wonder if the cycle has already happened and we just don't get told about it with votes carrying over but I doubt that's the case. I guess it could also be a sign that the cult leaders have already made their recruitments by suggesting the immunisation doesn't matter if it happens now or at the end of the cycle. The most obvious answer though is simply that whoever immunised them can activate their ability regardless of cycle state, in which case whoever that is should probably be using their ability as soon as possible each day to reduce who the cults can immunise.In post 620, Cerberus v666 wrote:Also, if dunk and creature did not perform their immunization, then it likely means a third party decided they were unlikely to be cult leaders or culted. Meh. I don't think it warrants any more consideration until someone claims what they did and explains it.
Well suck it up because you are 'town' now. If you are immune to recruitments then you are stuck as the survivor faction and hence must work with the rest of us if you want any chance of winning.In post 621, Dunkerdoodles wrote:i thought there was no town tho?
I don't recall anyone saying he was lying, so naturally I assumed that all (or how I meant it: most) people believed him. I don't get why you need to take my words so literally, especially when we live in a society where the word literally is rarely meant literally (or was that just me?).In post 700, JaydragonKing wrote:Just feels weird you wanted to say we all believed him that easily is all.
You can hug me and pet me but don't call me George. Thanks <3In post 808, Ms Columbo wrote:You have a mutant, cool!In post 760, Almost50 wrote:I think my mutant may make for a good wagon, maybe! That is unless there's strong opposition to him in particular.
Can we hug him and pet him and call him George?
How? Do you get told if you successfully blocked a recruitment? Because if not then I don't really see how your role is investigative. We don't know if the cult recruitments are successful. For all we know, one or even both of the recruitments already could have failed. That's the ideal situation for us anyway .In post 895, JaydragonKing wrote:My Roleblocking ability is more of an investigative kind.
Though more importantly, they'd be revealing they had been recruited, kek.In post 1000, Lifthrasil wrote:If someone would reply to your question about whether his powers would go away or not, they would reveal that they have powers...
Voting as fast as possible is a stupid strategy. The odds that enough of us are online in time to quick lynch before the cults have a chance to submit their recruitments is very slim and instead hurts any PRs who did not get on in time to submit their own actions.In post 1000, Lifthrasil wrote:Vote Inferno now and in the next play phase let's vote as quickly as possible to try to immunize enough people that the game becomes unwinnable for the cults.
I agree with this and I'd like to emphasise it. If anyone else has a PR that isn't human, assume you are immune to recruitments.In post 1083, JaydragonKing wrote:Well let's just go under the assumption that "If your based off a human, you can get fucked", where as someone like me, a music amplifier, and Cerberus, who's a goddamn elevator, can't get recruited.
Are we all fine with that logic?
To be honest, I don't think this meant virgin as in the role virgin. More that people have a status of virgin that not everyone is going to know. I think there might be some PRs that are recruitable. I do think that we should be assuming that the people we are told about losing their virginity are in fact henceforth immune to recruitments. However, I do not think we should be so quick to assume that they, therefore, town aligned as I don't think it's been officially stated anyway that cult members lose their virginity.In post 1078, Inferno390 wrote:Okay, I completely missed this. My bad.
I was assuming Creature was responsible for when this happens since both messages involved him. But your theory would definitely make sense.In post 1093, Cerberus v666 wrote:Oh, something I just thought of:
That update Drealmerz put out? He probably does it after all actions have been taken, so that way the information doesn't inform the actions taken. That's the only rational explanation for doing it partway through the day. He wants it to inform the immunization, but not action submissions. I'ts possible that it happens after x action is submitted as well, or x+y action set, etc.
In post 1060, Inferno390 wrote:There are so many things that we can assume right now, but I think that the one we need to avoid is:
JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NOT VIRGINS DOES NOT MEAN THEY CAN"T BE RECRUITED. Because if that's not true, Cult is basically screwed right now.
In post 1080, Inferno390 wrote:Well, in that case, CL is screwed because even if they hit every recruit from here on out, there are not enough virgins left to catchup with immunized unless one cult straight up dies.
Because I just realized: "groupie=cult?"
Wait.. what?
Too bad it's permanently N1 this game :3In post 1101, Almost50 wrote:Nope! I only taught you not to lynch a claimed PR on D1. That's all.In post 1094, mutantdevle wrote:you've taught me that you should definitely do that until there is hard evidence to suggest otherwise.
I specifically am unlikely to have any way of knowing. However, if she targets 3 people and claims that none of them was role blocked, but one of them was a PR, then they could expose her. Chickadee could also expose Jay if her kill still goes through. The other cult to (hypothetically) Jay could also find out she is lying if she claims to have blocked them but they weren't blocked and then the Cult Leader would just simply tell their cultists about Jay's lies and come up with a way to get multiple scum reads on her. It would be risky, but all it takes is one well-reasoned argument and any townie could jump on.In post 1105, Almost50 wrote:How are you going to find out? Jay only said his ability paralyzes their target(s) (i.e. he's a roleblocker). He added that his trigger goes off if he targtes a CL.In post 1094, mutantdevle wrote:I find Jay's claim especially believable since I really don't think she'd be making it up. She has made us aware that she'll be 'investigating' 3 people per day and if she ever gives us a false result then we could easily find out, or rather, if she is a lying cult player, the other cult could easily find out through their recruitments.
Furthermore, let's say the cult does find out he's lying. What next? Come out and shout: "Jay is lying because we are cult and we found him out"??
In post 1131, northsidegal wrote:By the way, if only one cult recruitment went off in the first phase, that presumably means that either both cults targeted the same player, one cult targeted someone who's immune, or someone's action stopped a cult recruitment.
Only the activity of this thread.In post 1196, Srceenplay wrote:Anyone die yet?