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I don't think the mod would bait scum into claiming miller like that?In post 79, Ouroboros wrote:I also have a very good grasp of the way GIF's mind works and him putting 1 scum with miller fakeclaim countering 1 town miller makes so, so much sense-
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I think they're all townIn post 349, ManWithNoName wrote:I don't think anyone has expressed that all of {TChill, Davesaz, and Wilky} are town.-
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In post 353, Ouroboros wrote:Fucking dunnstral
Like I don't think tchill or davesaz fake claim here with that stuff, and then I don't think wilky comes in and counter claims millerIn post 354, ManWithNoName wrote:
I stand corrected, then, and respectfully disagree.In post 351, Dunnstral wrote:
I think they're all townIn post 349, ManWithNoName wrote:I don't think anyone has expressed that all of {TChill, Davesaz, and Wilky} are town.-
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@Tchill can you hide behind millers? Or people that investigate as scum? Maybe pm the mod for clarificationIn post 108, Tchill13 wrote:OK I've thought pretty hard and long about this.
I don't see how my role could be a positive for town.
I'm hard claiming hider that can hide behind scum.
I'm hoping it's understandable why I would hard claim this day 1.-
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I called you out for your bad vote, for oneIn post 399, hebichan wrote:What are you contributing though?-
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Scum players don't play up scumhunting on day 1? I disagree., I don't think the explanation for your read is a good one.In post 430, hebichan wrote:I'm not scum reading manwithnoname that hard right now, he seems to be scumhunting, which I don't think many scum players try to play up this early day one.
In post 431, Wraith wrote:He uses some rather absurd leaps in logic in two separate cases to paint a narrative picture about these two players, deliberately ignoring Occam's Razor in favor of stirring up WIFOM.
What is more likely? That TChill is running a Jester gambit? Or that TChill is fakeclaiming? TChill's was by far the least believable claim so far, and the most awkward (considering Kaede is mod-confirmed). By bringing up some a longshot possiblity, Vent is indirectly mounting a soft defense of TChill.
Absurd leaps in logic aren't more likely to come from scum than town. If anything it's the opposite. While you may be correct, I don't think you make a good point here. Town is allowed to soft defend people too, by the way.-
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The votes by Ankamius and Hebichan:In post 440, Ouroboros wrote:
What's sketchy about it, dunn?In post 398, Dunnstral wrote:This wagon movement on Ventriloquist is kind of sketchy.
Ankamius voting for Ventriloquist while 'still catching up' - supposedly sheeping you:
Followed by Hebichan basically lashing back against Ventriloquist saying that T-chill is worth considering (Which isn't scummy itself, and is a sentiment other people have been sharing), on top of what looks like pretty icky timing to join the wagonIn post 391, Ankamius wrote:UNVOTE: verylazy
VOTE: Ventriloquist
I'm still catching up, but I'm far enough to have a strong enough townread on Ouroboros that I'm comfortable sheeping them for right now.
In post 395, hebichan wrote:VOTE: Ventriloquist
Yeah, don't really like how hes shading t-chill as "worth considering there either.-
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Maybe you should place a serious vote thenIn post 459, Ramcius wrote:
Huh? What vote changing you talk about? Open my ISO and tell me what vote changing i've done? I voted Maria in RvS, i voted Wilky, then selfvoted as a joke, that's about it. I just feel like you try get easy lynch and don't like my wagon dissolvingIn post 434, Ventriloquist wrote:My only other scum reads so far were on Ramacius & MWNN, as both were very fickle and kept changing their votes without offering any good reason for doing so. This to me suggests an uneasyness when under pressure in the former case and a desire to please the supposedly protown mascot, Ouroboros in the latter.-
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Yeah because they're fake, doesn't mean he's scum thoughIn post 815, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Dunno if it's just me but some of RC's read trajectories feel unnatural.-
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That's not something scum says about their partnersIn post 1069, Wraith wrote:Ank's insistence that town should not lynch Vent because "D1 scumlynches are bad" is insanely suspicious.-
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Davesaz: Miller (claimed first)In post 1276, Kokichi Oma wrote:Does someone have a post of claims to make things a little easier for me
Wilky: Miller (claimed second)
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This is at least a little disingenuousIn post 1371, Impossibear wrote:In post 1370, Dunnstral wrote:You guys might have a better shot at engaging people if you didn't post hundreds of posts when everyone else has like 20-
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In post 1381, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:You're a fucking bully and I don't want to FUCKING TALK TO YOU. LEAVE ME ALONE.
Look, I can grab stuff out of context too.In post 1375, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:How about, let's claim IC before there's any reason to!!!!!!!!!!!
YEAH! THAT'S A GREAT IDEA!! WOO!-
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FYI I don't know what you're talking about here/never heard of thisIn post 1437, Ouroboros wrote:I don't think Tchill is scum. Since people are spewing NRG secrets anyway, there was a long debate over what a hider actually is and we came to the conclusion that the hider itself is hiding behind and dying if target dies. Weak is separate. This discussion that we were having in the NRG ended up leaking to FG's D&D discord where GIF is a member and he even threw some comments in shortly before this game went to queue. Him being town with that hider role actually makes a ton of sense as a result and that's the main reason that I've been averse to his lynch for most of the game.
I also think that the specific manner of the claim is tonally highly indicative of town even if I'm not willing to call him confirmed town.-
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There's no pressure from you because rc won't let you off the chain to vote whoever you want. Bite me - oh wait, you can't
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I get that you're not interested in this game - what if I told you I thought you were town? Do you have any reads?In post 1429, MariaR wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAIn post 1383, Dunnstral wrote:In post 1381, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:You're a fucking bully and I don't want to FUCKING TALK TO YOU. LEAVE ME ALONE.
Look, I can grab stuff out of context too.In post 1375, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:How about, let's claim IC before there's any reason to!!!!!!!!!!!
YEAH! THAT'S A GREAT IDEA!! WOO!-
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I don't have an opinion on Hebi, I don't remember anything they've posted. Ank is leaning town for meIn post 1416, Ouroboros wrote:While you're at it, can you update me on your perception/read of Ank and the Hebi slot?
Your last mention of either of them - albeit I did skim your ISO - was in 445 and was related to how they sheeped onto the Vent wagon and how you felt that that was suspicious.
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This claim is stinkyIn post 1870, wilky wrote:Claiming Miller Slow Cop-
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Leading a lynch on scum isn't NAIIn post 1973, Kokichi Oma wrote:
What? I mean busing or not. That's a bad reason to townread him. RC if he were scum would know regardless hes going to be scumread so he'd do whichever would help him long game, not just for day 1. So I think that makes it NAIIn post 1968, Dunnstral wrote:RC is town; he wouldn't bus if people are just going to suspect him after the fact anyway-
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:eyeroll:In post 2003, Kokichi Oma wrote:Kaede, PJM, Ank all townreads, all thinking the same as me so it makes me feel better about PJM.-
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That's what happens when you don't read the game 2 posts after your last oneIn post 2066, OnTheMark wrote:That awkward feeling.
@hebichan like I like you as a person but uhm this is awkward as fuck.-
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I don't get it, doesn't roleblocker imply you would have stoppe him from making the kill? You're not a doctorIn post 2204, OnTheMark wrote:So apparently I blocked davesaz so they are innocent-
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What's there to explain? If he has no action he has no action and something outside of his control happenedIn post 2327, OnTheMark wrote:doesn’t care to explain it, and furthermore understands he should be lynched.-
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You jumped from post 2311 to post 2191 in your reading?In post 2336, Kokichi Oma wrote:
Okay, I missed thisIn post 2191, hebichan wrote:So, I have something so say here that could change everything. Since I've been gone a few days please uh... let me apologize for not bringing this up pages ago..
I roleblocked davesv.
If we're claiming that the only nightkill was a vig shot off impossibear, then I'm pretty sure I blocked the kill.
VOTE: dave slot-
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Bad angleshooting: If Dave was scum the mod wouldn't have forgotten to tell youIn post 2339, OnTheMark wrote:Mod forgot to tell me hebi blocked Davesaz and like we’re missing a kill.