Power Brokers: Game of Thrones - Game Over

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Did somebody say PB?

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pink ball u replaced into a confirmed town slot. how does it feel?

FL is NEVER confirmed town slot, nice try bamboozling me

Do you claim the kmd assassination?

Haven't recieved FL's actions yet so I guess not? I haven't read the mechanics in depth yet

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Justice for Shireen

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YOU HAVE NO POWER HERE

THAT'S NOT YOUR LINE

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Shit I forgot about this.

Who are we treasoning to get to the throne.

I'm the dragon by the way. You know, THE dragon.

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Auro that was MY pagetop

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You got it

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Ok now that I see that the pace of this game is not fast I know I'll be able to understand the mechanics and be part of it, I was checking if I would have the time and I think I will. Haven't read anything before my replacement

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I'll read the setup, but if someone (Auro ahem) wants to give me a summary of the mechanics it would be nice

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@Porkens is that everything I have to know??

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Porkens

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Thanks Auro but that's strats, I read the first point and immediately didn't understand what you are talking about. Is Porkens' repost everything I should know? If that's so, I'll start with that and then read yours

Also yes you're the strategist if you're not Little Finger in this game I demand a refund

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Oh also I need to know if everyone has watched the show 'cause I'll be making references all over the place and don't want to spoil it for anyone

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Ok I'll try to keep it spoiler free then

Everyone dies tho

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{Elena, Pink Floof, Arya, BBMolla, Ygritte}
Can you guys come out and play, please?

I will do it tonight, mark my woof! I'm at work right now

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I can leave you with this for the mean time, since I don't need mechanics to get some reads:

Auro's frustration towards LQ's vote comes from town more often than scum. Scum knows they have to be cool at that kind of misreps and Auro's frustration seemed legit and not an overreaction as I would expect scum to do. Rubicon's participation in that 1v1 is scummy, either with LQ being scum and fabricating some kind of distancing, or with LQ being town and trying to defuse the 1v1 before it was obvious both Auro and LQ are town, and pocketing both ends at the same time.

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To be more clear, I'll use flavor:

Auro is Ned Stark, LQ is either Robby Baratheon the coolest king or Joffrey the real og, and Rubicon is Cersei.

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Omg I wasn't even thinking what I was writing and it came out perfectly. Great use of flavor if I say so myself

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Without reading the rest of the game I'm inclined to the former because the scumread on Auro seems nitpicking but there seems to be a lot more behind it so I'll come back to that at night. Also Auro is calling LQ town so I have to see what he's seeing

p-edit sorry this was @Rubicon I wrote it and never hit send

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Except Auro never demonstrated that he was actually "upset". Instead he showed apathy and tried to discredit me instead of showing frustration.

This posts:

Oh god that is a super dumb misrep of what I was saying. I'm not going to engage further about that - try harder at parsing.

Go read my ISO to find out my TRs.

Quick, brilliant detective work. You caught me in a blatant contradiction saying I'm lazy and I'm active in the same post. It was absolutely a correct admission as well, since my 336 post ISO has NO reads at all, showing how my play is lazy mech spec.

Porkens has also smartly concluded that my plan is an authoritarian power grab where I and my kabal of scum players have a lot of powers -- including the power of not killing any guests residing in my castle, or my scum Spy mates not assassinating anyone -- and are thus maneuvering towards an easy scum sweep!

I have no hopes of winning this

Absolutely - I only wish I had amazing reasoning and communicative skills like you.

No. Why do you not want to read my ISO and find out? Are you lazy?

This was it. Green color. Context set by previous posts.
That was a lazy skim.

I'm not poking holes in your case, I'm absolutely rubbishing it. It's a garbage case.

You said nothing much AI has been happening this game, you're also saying if I'm town I must have some damning case on FB.

Think about it, long and hard.

Are all coming from a frustrated Auro. You have to meassure frustration differently for every player. I've never seen Auro post like this before, because he's a sweet summer child

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As I said, I haven't looked at that better part of your case, so I can't comment on that

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Sorry who's in that PT?

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I'll absolutely will I can't live without you

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Also LQ that's a lot of angle shooting

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This will have to wait until friday sadly, I'm loaded.

I want to woo my beloved Ygritte

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You're absolutely welcome dear votato

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Auro, LQ, Porkens all town

Ygritte town of course

FB towntelled, I suggest unvoting pretty please

Arya is weird but I like her

VOTE: Rubicon

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pisskop replaced Elena right? pisskop unvote FB

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Also since there's a role called PB, I kindly request to call me "the dragon"

Thank you in advance

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Ok I'll rephrase: FB towntold specifically to me because of shared meta

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As summarized as possible:

I have told FB I have a towntell on him that if he doesn't do it during an ammount of time I estimate, then he's probably scum. That towntell is having fun. FB has fun as scum too, but with less freedom, so it feels awkward at times. As I said, FB knows that's the way I read him, so him going with the fun block with me inside, it's a direct message to me, telling me he's town, that I should trust him. Given the context of this game, where I'm not involved and lurking, he wouldn't lose his time trying to get townread by me when I'm not a deciding factor; scum FB would focus on other players rather than me, 'cause I don't have the wim to defend him. Instead, town!FB do this in an attempt to read me, not to defend himself: FB is scumhunting even at L-1. That's town. FB talking about my town meta, where I freak out when I'm wagoned, is proof that what he's doing right now is not survivalism, but rather creating new content that will help us to get a better read of the game even if he's lynched.

As I said, this is a towntell specifically to me, but if you throw the context he's involved right now, I think the way he's playing at L-1 should be enough to reconsider a vote on him.

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You didn't lynch last day??

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UNVOTE:

Good girl

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Madness

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When did the thread lock? Was this thread or the brokers thread?

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Oh god gobble is here

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Choo choo hop on the FUN train everyone!

HYPE

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He's still at L-2 and now you're at L-3. If you don't get to be the most viable lynch I'll hammer Fire in case we're getting a no lynch

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Awwww yeaaaah competing wagons that's what I'm talking about! Thanks pisskop

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By "remaining" you mean you have someone already pinned?

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BEING FUN

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You can't accuse of it being sketch without explaining why. You're just asking me to give my thoughts on a plate to try to get your wagon disbanded.

Go for it, I haven't read that much so I'm up to changing my mind.

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Your vote is from your initial reaction to my interaction with Auro and LQ before you started catching up

Fixing it and you got it. So there is reasoning behind it, but it's not good enough because I haven't caught up. Good summary

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Really? Sorry haven't seen your responses, I'll look into them. I haven't caught up, I said I would do it on friday 'cause I'm loaded with work. I'm working right now (11 pm yay) and I've skimmed through new posts

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And you want FB's lynch? A girl has no vote

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Catching up in 3 hours aprox

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That's L-2 in my counts, I'll UNVOTE: Rubicon so I can catch up before the hammer

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Ok time to read this bitch

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I put this together for myself and thought others might find it helpful. Let me know if I made a mistake anywhere.

Current Player Locations

Auro Castle Auro's Army		BBMolla Castle BBMolla's Army		Firebringer Castle Firebringer's Army
Capital City Arya Stark | Auro | BBmolla | Elena Fisher | Firebringer | Flavor Leaf | Kmd LicketyQuickety | Nero Cain | Porkens | Rubicon | Shireen Baratheon | votato | Ygritte Auro's Second | BBmolla's Second | Elena Fisher's Second | Firebringer's Second Flavor Leaf's Second | Nero Cain's Second | Porkens's Second Rubicon's Second | Shireen Baratheon's Second
Flavor Leaf Castle Flavor Leaf's Army			Shireen Baratheon Castle Shireen Baratheon's Army

Ability Chart

Each phase (day), you can use 1 ability from each row under your role. If you have a third-in-command, they can perform an additional action on your behalf.

	Nobles	Court Officials	Power Brokers
Players	Firebringer Flavor Leaf BBmolla Auro Shireen Baratheon	votato Arya Stark LicketyQuickety Ygritte Kmd4390	Rubicon Nero Cain Elena Fisher Porkens
Travel Abilities (travel to castle / capital city)	Travel Without Household Guard Travel With Household Guard	None	Travel Without Household Guard
Player Abilities	Kill Hostage / Violate Guest Right Release Hostage Recruit New Household Guard Call the Banners Move the Army Lay Siege to Castle	Investigate Death Investigate Plots Investigate Escape Routes Disband House Guard Arrest Second In Command Release Second In Command	None
Second-In-Command Abilities	House Arrest	None	Plan Assassination Infiltrate Intelligence Network Take Hostage Distract Court Official
Special Abilities (must be earned)	Recruit Ally Secret Alliance Escape Route (passive)	Recruit Ally Secret Alliance Escape Route (passive)	Recruit Ally Secret Alliance Escape Route (passive)

Burst (Instant) | Fast (One Phase Later) | Slow (Two Phases Later)

Italic

– Hidden Action | Not Italic – Public Action | Some public actions are revealed the following day.

I thought it was Porkens who did this chart.

I don't think scum!Rubi makes this chart and shares it with the town without trying to get explicit towncred; what I mean with this is that he hasn't brought the fact that he did this to the conversation now that he's getting lynched.

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@ABR

is there a random distribution of scum across the three groups? or is it non-random (i.e. you determined how many scum will be in each group whether it be 1-1-1 or whatever)?

Good question, not so sure if it comes from town or scum trying to say "I don't know how the scumteam is composed"

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It was hugely protown

I agree. There's still time to change the wagon. I still think FB is not the alternative but let me keep reading. I don't like votato and Ygritte's early game

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I was gonna ask if asking the mod in thread about scum distribution is something votato would do to look like town not knowing but if that's a Radiantcowbell alt, that answers that for me.

And the dead guy thought the same

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Don’t even consider wasting lunches on court officials

Because of Auro's plan? I don't know yet how it works but wouldn't it give a false positive if scum feels like doing that?

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Well, whenever I tried to take legitimate stances, I was ridiculed for them. So I don't do that anymore. I am only in this because it's GOT.

Oh god...

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Yeah I understand the mechanics now but I won't be useful on that matter. FL not doing anything doesn't help either.

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Pink Ball, do you expect me to be townreading you by this point?

Give me 20 minutes and you should

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Like I could go on and on explaining in a big fat post why I'm obvtown by the fact that, if I replaced into a scum slot in a GoT flavored game, I would be all over the place, but let me get some reads and then you can judge me because of them

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I'll give some advice to the scum team.

Shireen Baratheon is exactly the kind of person you'd want to night kill! She's unpredictable and by leaving her alive you leave her vote to ~random chance unless you specifically manipulate her, which town can see through. "Reasonable" players can be manipulated on logical grounds, but wildcards like her will always be risky. And since I townread her, I won't be lynching her anytime soon.

You're welcome!

This is awful

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Thankfully this isn't a game I care too terribly for compared to others so feel free to keep your vote on. I'm going back to pokemon!

This is town

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Shireen is scum

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Auro I don't know where did your townread on here come for at the begining of the game. Ygritte is into character not giving any content at all, but Shireen takes the bait and instead of playing the game decides to interact with Ygritte.

If Shireen is who I think she is, I want to check her activity to see how sure I am about this

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Ohohohohoooooo she even quotes Anime uPick. And she hasn't posted in more than 5 days (well to be fair that's NAI for her).

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Yes I realized that's why I talked about her activity

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Auro, Shireen said that lynching her was better than a no lynch, yet she went for the "I'm not voting myself, I'm not giving scum an easy kill"; while I agree with no self voting, saying it out loud after saying no lynch was worse than a lynch on her is pretty much trying to look good rather than taking a stance. She has no stances, she has nothing on her because she knows that she slips when she tries to get a stance; last time I saw her take a stance was copy pasting a wrong!town!mastina stance and pushing it to the limit instead of having her own stances.

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Arya has 30 posts

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I reaffirm my townread on FB, first 20 pages checks out with what I've said before about him.
Rubicon stances are good, I jumped too fast into him because of defusing a discussion that now I see it clearly has gone for too long and he has been nothing but helpful for what I see.
Porkens, Auro and Elena town.
votato and Shireen scum (checks out with kmd being the nightkill too).

Rest are null until I keep reading but looking at the activity of everyone I see it will be hard, in one hand Arya, Ygritte and BB with not enough content, and Nero and LQ with too much.

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Shireen's emotive response == towntell

You didn't read Anime uPick. You didn't experience that shitfest. Read it and tell me if you keep thinking this. I won't read my worst mafia experience again.

VOTE: Shireen Baratheon

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As a matter of fact, I can fake it and fake it well. Read Tatsuya's Anime King Sized Upick for proof.

She even told you this. This post is pretty much saying "I can do that as scum", like she seemed offended that you were townreading her for the wrong reasons.

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FB who are you voting and why is not Shireen

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You didn't read Anime uPick. You didn't experience that shitfest. Read it and tell me if you keep thinking this. I won't read my worst mafia experience again

If you wanna help out I'd like to see specific posts of the kind of AtE she displayed as scum there, especially reactions to getting lynched

Otherwise I'll read it myself later

Got reviews for an academic conference I was submitting my work to, I'll have to devote quite some time crafting rebuttals

the dragon: "I won't read my worst mafia experience again"
Auro: "If you wanna help out I'd like to see specific posts of the kind of AtE she displayed as scum there"

Come on dude. You're calling it a towntell, I disagree. She always does that, everytime goes with the same "I want to get better" bullshit and calling out everyone for lynching her.

If I can't convince you on this tell me so I can move on on something better. It's 5 in the morning and I'm doing this only because I'm commited to it, but don't ask me to do what I'm explicitly saying I won't do. That game was long ago and I still remember some posts from Joan directed at me like it was yesterday.

If you don't have time to look it for yourself before deadline, then compromise with me with votato.

p-edit: that's not drama that's a shitfest with a lot of bullying

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Subject: Anime U-Pick: King Size [SEASON FINALE...?]

I was hoping I could outplay all of you and prove that I can be a good player, but that wasn't to be this time.

Subject: Anime U-Pick: King Size [SEASON FINALE...?]

I was hoping I could outplay all of you and prove that I can be a good player, but that wasn't to be this time.

Ohh scum flip then?

Cool.

Why would I do this and risk a possible ban if I weren't?

Her reactions on being lynched in that Anime game.
C'mon now

No Auro. Read the 600 ish posts and we can speak later. In fact, read Channel 1 too and we can speak later about this. You can't compare straight up "being lynched" just out of two posts.

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Stupid Pink Ball opened Pandora's box and I really don't want to do this

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Also, out of respect (I didn't know Shireen was Joan before joining):

I'll respect your wishes, Joan. I won't join games you've inned before me. Feel free to join a game I inned before you, since I have no personal problems with you

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I disagree. If you want to compromise with another slot let's talk about that. If not, well there's only 4 and a half hours to get a lynch so I guess my read on them doesn't really matter right now 'cause we would get another no lynch.

I have to sleep. Auro if you had to lynch a town Noble or a town PB, which one would you lynch

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Ok so we got more time to get Shireen lynched instead of Rubicon. Anyone in?

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Oh god Auro I'll lynch you today, for real. Did you read Channel 1 of Anime uPick? Please tell me you didn't

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No no I'm not talking about my confidence, I'm talking that I read that shit yesterday at 5 am and that kind of BoP is the shit that Joan made me go through. mastina was town and Joan was scum

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By the way, you do realize that if she flips town, you two + N x M will eat rope in a rapid succession? Is your scumread on her so strong and so definite that you're prepared to face any and all consequences that will happen if she flips town?

If your answer to the above is 'yes', then I will sheep you to hell and back. Otherwise, I am not gonna waste a good scumhunter just because.

Good to know. If she flips town, I will make sure all three of you will be lynched. Remember that you accepted that.

Okay, so you will eat rope if she flips town, got it.

All right, how about this. I'll sheep you without question, if you

1) Agree to die if mastina flips town, no ifs, ands or buts and no excuses to get out of this
2) Follow the above to the letter, without any deviations from it

If you're so sure she will flip scum, then get ready to die for it.

Yes you use BoP differently because you're a sweetheart, but that doesn't mean you're reminding me of that shitfest. That's why I asked you if you read Channel 1, because if you were doing that on purpose, I would kindly invite you to my castle and get you killed a la Walder Frey

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And by the way one thing I agreed with Joan in that game is that mastina is a good player that you have to be really sure you want to lynch because she's reliable. Shireen is not a good, reliable player. You offering a BoP on her is atrocious and gets me even more paranoid about you, 'cause I think you're town, but you defending her since early D1 makes me believe you've been trying to carry her weight. This whole thing is important 'cause if she flips scum, you're basically confscum, and my read on you, or anyone's read on you in that matter, is way more important than Shireen being alive or not.

Why is she not vigged yet? You couldn't vig her?

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I know you wouldn't, but I went to sleep and I didn't know if you decided to read the game or do your work

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Is there any way to force Shireen go to my castle?

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I'll go to Shireen's castle then. Auro if you're town and wrong on this I'll fight you in real life

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Who is scum if Shireen is not. Outside of Fire/Rubi.

I'm willing to go on votato, Arya, Ygritte and gobble, in that order

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I'm more concerned on my read on you than your read on me. Activity overview backs me up on that; you're more relevant than me

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It's the same thing I commented about FB's meta towards being awkward when he's scum, like he's not having fun because he will have to have an agenda instead of being free

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Rubi you said you asked me some questions and I ignored them, could you point them to me?

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@Rubi oh ok I remember that post but it wasn't a question that's were my confusion came.

I read that post of yours and you made me reevaluate and make me put special attention on FB. I have not concluded if you or me are right; he could be pocketing me, yes, but I think that his attitude towards his own wagon, and his attitude towards this game checks out as town for me. Same with Elena: her attitude towards this game in particular comes off as her town game rather than her scum game.

I need flips at this point. No lynch on D1 is getting into our heads

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PB-if you think Shireen is scum how do you feel about rubi and ygritte not voting there yesterday and helping to lead us to a no lynch??

If Shireen is scum, I don't think she tries to follow Ygritte's gimmick. Rubi yeah sure, but I think Rubi is town for more compelling reasons than a no vote on a no lynch. I mean who else didn't vote Shireen?

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Ok

VOTE: Firebringer

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I'm really trying FB. If it is between you and Rubi it has to be you

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I'd rather lynch votato but I don't see enough motivation towards that

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I'm really trying FB. If it is between you and Rubi it has to be you

go fuck off.

You want to pick me, between the person flat out ignoring me. Who won't engage with scumreads people. Who is being an annoying piece of shit.

Yet you vote me.

Bravo!

This is underserved

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Tell what do I have to do then, FB. I'm townreading both you and Rubi.

It is undeserved.

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UNVOTE: Firebringer

See you on next week, I can't deal with this.

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Yeah sure sorry.

your slot, vota, shireen, molla/gobb, fire.

Who are the scum here?

I mean who else didn't vote Shireen?

I guess the reason that I'm the most up in arms over Rubi is b/c he was online relatively close to DL and I think it was pretty clear that shireen was going to be the days lynch and him not moving there seemed ???

I'm tunneling ygritte. Conf bias is a hellva drug.

shireen you could maybe argue that she's scum that didn't self hammer.

molla goes v/la before deadline so he doesn't have to play?

The list of people you're providing is the people who didn't vote Shireen at EoD? I'd go with votato and Shireen with the third scum bussing

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UNVOTE: Firebringer

See you on next week, I can't deal with this.

Dont' be a little baby. Vote me if you think i am scum.

I don't think you're scum. Telling me to go fuck myself and then telling me to not be a baby for being affected by it when I'm clearly trying to do my best is undeserved. Back off.

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but PB, if you think that both Rubi and FB are town shouldn't you at least be trying to get a lynch elsewhere?

THIS

IF UR TRYING "UR BEST" THEN U WOULDNT BE LYNCHING TOWNREADS!?!?!?!? OR PUSHING THE DICHOTOMY OF "WELL ITS U OR RUBI"

Read the fucking game idiot. I'm saying we should lynch Shireen and if not Shireen, then votato, but no one else is following. That includes you.

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Oh now you're voting Shireen. Good

VOTE: Shireen Baratheon

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Finally

VOTE: votato

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Wait what

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Wait how do you know who was vigged?

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prob b/c I'm not stupid

I was talking to Auro who said that it was a scummy vig

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Oh the other one who died was LQ ok

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Oh the other one who died was LQ ok

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Not being able to Coup on D4 is very bad for town

PB what's your point again?

Sorry what's couping and what's my point on what

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Auro what do you want me to do

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But what's the coup

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What was I thinking? Trying to get a fucking lynch on scum instead of town at 5.30 in the morning. Yeah, not very rational, but at least I was trying.

I'm tired of being shitted on in this game

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Sorry if this has been already answered: how do I coup, do I have to post something or PM the mod with an action?

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So first I call the banners and then move the army to the capital? Are those public actions?

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Done

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Sorry if this has been already answered: how do I coup, do I have to post something or PM the mod with an action?

Dave and fire have already moved their banners so we don't need you.

Auro told me to do it, if you don't need me why did he tell me that

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Then don't talk about it if it's not game related

VOTE: votato

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(vote is unralated with what I said, I just wanted to vote you)

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Oh, right

VOTE: Shireen Baratheon

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Give me two good reasons you not vote turkey

1. I moved to his castle and he hasn't killed me when I'm not a universal townread
2. gobble's lack of content makes him a shot in the dark instead of a good lynch, like Shireen's slot.

If you want to vote gobble to put pressure on him and make him obvtown, you're just relying on Auro's metaread on him which I hardly disagree with.

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I haven't seen scum!him with no content either. He repped in a game heavy on mechanics and I believe he was sick for a while. But more on the former, I'm having empathy 'cause I really want to play good ol' mafia and leave the mechanics to the rest of you, and maybe the dude feels flabbergasted by mech talk like I did when I repped in

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To be completely honest with you, when I realized that Shireen was Yume, I really wanted the slot to die and started looking for reasons to scumread her. However, I did think it was a good elimination (heh) because of Yume's erratic nature, making herself a liability for town in both cases (she being town or scum is indistinctly bad), and also because the other alternatives were Fire and Rubi who I think they're both town.

I shouldn't be voting dave now, but I don't have a strong read on the other Nobles right now, other than I have this gut feeling that Auro is fucking with me

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Much less content != no content in a game he repped in. You're losing the point. Also he hasn't tried to put out content at all, so how can we judge if it looks forced and fake?

You weren't scumreading gobble when you voted him Auro, you clearly weren't.

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You're again missing the point. I'm not saying his ISO is good. I'm not even saying his ISO is mediocre at best. I'm saying that you're pushing a player with no ISO whatsoever; you're saying that that's a scumtrait of gobble, I'm saying it's a player who repped in recently and was sick recently too.

Should I post dave's ISO and judge him? That wouldn't be fair, would it?

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I don't think your opinion on what's fair or not is what should decide who I should be voting.

Because, as you can see, I'm not asking you to stop voting gobble or pushing him if you think time's up for him. What I'm doing here is answering the question "why are you not voting gobble", so I don't know what you're trying to accomplish by defending your stance. I'm not asking you to justify your vote, did you feel like I was asking that?

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And that's exactly why I feel you're fucking with me. Feels like you've only attacked my stances since I got stances in this game which to me looks like you're shutting me down. "I'm waiting for your takes Pink Ball!! " doesn't add up with how you've approached me. You aren't working with me, you're just antagonizing me when I'm not even talking to you.

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3.06 in the morning and got to work tomorrow at 8.30. If you want to solve this game with me, let's talk. If you wanna solve it by yourself, I'll continue ignoring you and eventually doubting your intentions.

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That's a good plan

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UNVOTE: davesaz

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What's the COs' opinion on this I would like to know

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@SS you'll have to replace votato too

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You don't have to think I'm a great player or anything but I tend to think I always play pretty well regardless of whether I'm right or wrong. Scum hunting is difficult and isn't exactly aided by the fact that today's meta is basically WIFOM-"Am I scum or am I bad town?" That's how I think a lot of players play.

In SIR: COVID you said something like "Nero if you are town you need to take a long look at your game," Why? I was on point for a large part of the game and one of the better town players. I mean yes, I should have pushed Gobble harder/earlier and Auro so it's not like my game was perfect or anything and I know that and I'm well aware of any shortcomings but telling one of the better town players to "look at their game" is somewhat insulting and just

Here you whined about me getting released over and then said you think I'm so stupid and such a bad player that I'd fall for auro's manipulations.

Not really sure why you are being such a little shit to me other than the fact that I've scum read you in the past and here I

accidentally

typed your name instead of PB and your response was basically "no u"-so you just can't handle being called scum.

Grow up.

really don't like this.

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I like it, feels honest

I was quoting what he said about one of my posts.

You're boring this game Auro what's going on dude

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What came first, the chicken or the egg

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And that's exactly why I feel you're fucking with me. Feels like you've only attacked my stances since I got stances in this game which to me looks like you're shutting me down. "I'm waiting for your takes Pink Ball!! " doesn't add up with how you've approached me. You aren't working with me, you're just antagonizing me when I'm not even talking to you.

really don't like this.

You said literally what I quoted

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You know I like you Nero

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E-1*

If I join a lurker's wagon it will be to hammer

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Or R-1 'cause we're roasting the turkey

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Wow you are one of the founders, I'm feeling starstruck :$

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It's a cool idea but do you think it's viable for current times?

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Nothing, Jon Snow

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Ok I've come to the conclusion that advancing this game without knowing the alignments of the dead is too frustrating 'cause we could totally on the money or fucking us over and we need that info

What do we have to do to get said info and why we haven't done it yet

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What's the point of jailkeeping them if we're gonna coup? Scum will shoot other way no?

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Oh I thought the coup was tomorrow

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At least we're having fun while we wait for the replacements

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Sorry to be clear, who replaced who?

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SS it wasn't a dig on you you're doing fine my dude thank you for taking this game

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Shit I'm in prod range too sorry this was a busy weekend

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By the way wanted to add that my whole point about Firebringer being town is now out of the way since he recently lost as scum in another game and practically did the same thing he was doing here towards me, so yeah

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By the way wanted to add that my whole point about Firebringer being town is now out of the way since he recently lost as scum in another game and practically did the same thing he was doing here towards me, so yeah

link?

viewtopic.php?f=51&t=83235
He brings up that if I'm town and pushed, I'll obvtown, just like in this game. I don't think that's accurate and I think it's a scapegoat read just to have an excuse for voting me.

ummmm...wouldn't that logic dictate that he's scum?

Yes, that's what I was implying, that I probably fucked up and ended up defending FB thinking that he was town in both games when in reality he was scum in both games, and now we lynched gobbles instead of FB and that's bad

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Nero, you keep calling me scum based on nothing and it's just demotivating

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I did not kill Firebringer but I wish that I had. Watching that vicious bastard die gave me more relief than a thousand lying whores

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And Joffrey was the king of Westeros

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Do I have to send any other action to make the coup happen?

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Same

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I appreciate the attempt of making a cool setup based on a great book/series, I love GoT, and the setup trying to replicate what GoT feels like is really really cool. But yeah, it's too complicated.

That being said, getting back to the game: Auro and Nero are town, they'll win this. Change my mind.

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What do ppl think of pork? im kind of thinking we should just lynch everyone thats not a pb.

I'm PB

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What

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Oh I think I get what you're saying

Aight Imma head out once more 'cause everytime I post you push me out. Have fun Auro

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Why would dave and their partner kill Ari via nightkill instead of killing him during the day?

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Wait how long are this days??

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And ever baby

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What movie was that? Damn

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Oh forever and ever babe, Click. Nice movie

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I don't care, you should've voted me like three days ago

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Huh?

He's been throwing shade towards my slot since I repped in, I was expecting this to come sooner or later. Either Auro is scum and has aligned lynches all through and through (and protected his partner shireen/dave TWICE) or Auro is town, is wrong and scum is winning. In both cases I don't have the wim or better reads to win the game

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VOTE: davesaz

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Damn, I saved shireen/dave twice, I was in his castle and he tried to kill me when he was already hammered. Oh well I guess he was scum eh guys?

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Damn, I saved shireen/dave twice, I was in his castle and he tried to kill me when he was already hammered. Oh well I guess he was scum eh guys?

Both of us were in his castle, he tried to kill ME actually, not you, no? Why would he try to kill just one of us

I wasn't in his castle

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Oh no I get it. I was shading your 3283 post

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I didn't save shireen/dave twice, you did. I'm pretty sure you played your dumb card there to avoid what's pretty obvious at this point

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Maxwell hasn't *really* been present, also he's a CO with investigation powers in a state with a guaranteed scum flip (which will be pretty useful if found) so why hasn't he been killed?
Assuming Dave's scum: PB was at Dave's castle, yet Dave only tries to kill me when he's hammered?
PB also knows where you were, if you weren't at PB's castle.

Also, I'm an IC now too!

I wasn't at Dave's castle

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I think you're overthinking the "dave was scum so PB knew were Porkens was by PoE". I didn't know where anyone was because no one has been on my castle the entire game. That should clear me.

The simplest explanation is that both remaining COs are scum

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I didn't know where anyone was because no one has been on my castle the entire game.

In that if Porkens isn't at the Capital, and isn't at your castle, he must be at someone's castle who's alive... and I'm the only remaining option.

But dave's. How could I know Porkens was at your castle and not the capital? We know that during the day

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though I guess Auro not killing in the castle could mean he's town unless he's like scum with Tipsy or something and if he kills me and Pork but not tipsy its basicly a scumclaim.

Yeh that's my only chance at Auro being scum and Auro calling himself IC doesn't help

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Maybe that's why they focused on Porkens last night! If there's a no lynch today like other 2 days of this game, they kill your second and then execute both of you

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Perfect

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Ok, only option is with dave and Ygritte, which is still a good chance since you saved shireen/dave twice and you called Ygritte conftown 'cause nightkill

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Tipsy should prob be the days lynch b/c vota was a massive lurker and didn't even try to help solve. I thought his making a PT with me was an odd choice of action. And when Tipsy was given his week 3 action back he made a PT with Auro. (Although if they are just scum together they already have a PT and Tipsy is just lying)

If it's between Tipsy and maxwell I'd rather go with maxwell

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You didn't know if all of your guests would stay and killing maxwell was killing a potential mislynch, also confirming that gobble is town which is another clue we don't know right now

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Porkens, we just need to find one town within {Nero, Maxwell, Tipsy, Pink Ball}.

We could lynch maxwell today, force Nero and Tipsy to stay on your castle (if one of them moves is basically a scumclaim) and then you kill both Tipsy and Nero. Porkens moves so neither you or me knows where he is, you can't nightkill me and I can't nightkill you. We assure Porkens, you and me being alive

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I mean, I guess I can sort of get behind the "Auro isn't scum b/c he could just murder Pork and I but I don't really understand why you painted ygritte as green when she hasn't been investigated and what made you stop voting Tipsy. Like you really aren't playing with your team and it irks me.

Stop focusing on irrelevant things and help sort the rest

You didn't know if all of your guests would stay and killing maxwell was killing a potential mislynch, also confirming that gobble is town which is another clue we don't know right now

I know Tipsy definitely stays, as he's jailkept. Nero and Porkens have been at my castle forever, they've never moved. Also, I could instead kill you (since you were in the Capital).
Why would I try to assassinate someone I could daykill in LyLo anyway?

I'm with my second, you can't kill me. Porkens and Nero never moving doesn't mean a catious scum would risk one of them moving for the instant win

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Also, yesterday we were at 7, and assuming I'm with Dave that's 2:5. I could've day killed the three people at my castle to bring it to 2:2, which is a win, no?

Ok yes, this is enough for me

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Auro you being town change things. Do you really think that dave is scum?

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Wait we can abuse the mechanics

We no kill today, maxwell and me travel to your castle, you kill everyone

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Wait we can abuse the mechanics

We no kill today, maxwell and me travel to your castle, you kill everyone

This is the mech foolproof plan

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We are 6, worst case scenario we are at MyLo. No lynching is safe, scum can't do two nightkills. You're conftown, from everyone else's point of view there's no one in my castle

p-edit there isn't a way for protecting you?? Were's your second in command? And can't maxwell be kidnapped?

pp-edit look now you have a second in command!!!!

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Ugh fuck mechanics

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1. Castlemurder tipsy
2. Everyone moves to auro’s castle
3. Execute maxwell

This fails if the team is {Nero, Pink Ball}. Also, I'm 100% dying to the factional NK this day, so can't do the Week 7 nuke.

But Porkens can do it

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I culd see a Tipsy/Pink since Pink was the one that wanted max lynched today over Tipsy.

And dave would be the third partner?

There's not a world where dave and me are scum together for how I pushed Shireen

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Auro I perform your actions now I don’t have my old powers anymore

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Ah, sure

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I don’t think I get to keep them if he dies, but I also think I’d soak up the NK

Ohhhhh that way, the assassinate hits my NPC, which is you? Hmm. Nice. So yeah we can execute Maxwell, have PB move to my castle and NUKE
Gimme some time I'll think about this, be back in a few hours

Yeh this is what I was saying

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Noble Actions:
-House arrest (Must have household guard. Roleblock a player without a household guard (or if they are busy arresting) from using Player Actions (fast) (public)

Pink Ball: don't use this yet, but I think if you House Arrest Nero he can't fast move from my castle, correct?

Also, yeah if PB's scum he's forced to scumclaim by not moving to my castle tomorrow too

Do I have a household guard? I don't know about that

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Oh yeah I meant to ask, just to be sure:

@mod, if multiple daykills are done in a castle, are they resolved all at the same time?

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I think if we eat tipsy and maxwells we win.

I agree, but Auro is worried that the scumteam could be Nero and me and we would win the game in that case.

Maybe the best alternative that leaves us in the best position with no chances of losing is no killing today; if Nero leaves, scumclaim. If I don't go to Auro's castle, scumclaim. Tomorrow Auro kills everyone in his castle but you, and then execute maxwell.

Auro can't die, I think you can travel and be safe? To avoid the nightkill I mean

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Maybe the best alternative that leaves us in the best position with no chances of losing is no killing today; if Nero leaves, scumclaim. If I don't go to Auro's castle, scumclaim. Tomorrow Auro kills everyone in his castle but you, and then execute maxwell.

Auro can't die, I think you can travel and be safe? To avoid the nightkill I mean

But if scum kill Porkens, I can't nuke, right? Maxwell's still gonna be outside and 1:1 will lose the game.

That's why I'm asking if there's a way of avoiding Porkens' nightkill

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VOTE: maxwell

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Wait

UNVOTE: maxwell

I haven't travelled yet

It's a fast action right??

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Is it a public mechanic or do I have to PM SS?

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Nah SS reseted the votecount but left your vote in there, it doesn't count

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What up

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Nero and you. Auro, maxwell and me in the capital