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Post #166 (isolation #21) » Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:28 am
Postby May »
Pp didn't vote me because I am in the masonry and eating his Doritos on the couch but I'm using such a large tv tray and them vacuuming the couch afterwards even though there's no crumbs and it just seems so respectful even though he even asked to go halfsies on the Doritos and I said "I wouldn't eat them"
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Post #174 (isolation #25) » Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:35 am
Postby May »
In post 14, gob wrote:
davesaz and yesiree also less likely to be w/w than fire and brian
But actually not… because Fire would ssy something everytime regardless of alignment. So nevermind.
All those people who voted without saying shit r on the same tier. I think May’s vote is the worst though, because i can see Fire and Dave noth making naked votes (no explanations) as town.
This is good analysis. I think last time I naked voted I was mafia.
Maybe this game since claiming scum annoys with people I will just case myself all game but then insist I'm town
I'm a firm believer that memes improve town EV, just like a water stone improves a city Eevee, and unlike the way a thunder stone ruins one
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Post #182 (isolation #28) » Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:49 am
Postby May »
In post 180, davesaz wrote:
So much spam, from former listmods even
I'm not against fun on principle, but the scrolling to get to real stuff...
I like understand your preference for different styles of play and I'll be generous about the choice to be sarcastic about it. I think the former listmods bit is pretty weird though. Don't understand the premise but if there's a sustainable premise in there can't I just be retroactively double fired for play style or whatever lol
In post 17, davesaz wrote:
I think reading too much into the draft would be a mistake. You have to go pretty deep into my history, given it's been ages since I played this (modded it a lot), but it will be clear I've always had this position.
It is of the opinion that this is a very defensive post that doesn't seem to have a prediction for how on guard it is. Yes, can you explain to it why you felt the need to bring up and defend yourself from an attack that hasn't even been levied?
Further, it thinks that the major element of this game is draft speculation and reading into player mentality for the choices that are made. Why shut that down?
Bc empirically towns lose games where they eschew organic gameplay for mechanical decision tree math whether or not on paper they should
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Post #186 (isolation #31) » Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:57 am
Postby May »
In post 62, June wrote:
also i think that like every single iteration that i've played of this setup or almost all of them there's been at least one person who goes "noooo the draft means nothing ignore it" but then we used the draft to solve the game or made it easier at some point so there's that
It can be simultaneously true that you will gain a material benefit for doing it, but that the benefit won't outweigh the less measurable effects on the day play. It's like skipping small econ micros in StarCraft because if you're not doing an attentive harass on their 2nd base having a 120% output single base game ain't gonna matter
In post 197, May wrote:
I've never like made a spreadsheet I just played mafia for 16 years and have anecdata
Organic isn't the right word but I couldn't figure out the right word. "The other stuff" is what I meant
Yes O-Ring is a 3 mana enchantment
Your experiences do not qualify as evidence that a methodology is bad, only that it doesn't suit your style. Just as its experiences do not qualify as evidence that Dave's curmudgeoning is explicitly scum, despite it being a familiar feeling to it. It understands that there are cultural differences and playstyle gaps. It has already assuaged two different concerns that it would base itself solely on mechanics, when infact it is clearly doing more than that. But information is information, and if it can use draft info to help corner scum, it's going to do that.
There was like a bunch of other ppl in those games
In post 197, May wrote:
I've never like made a spreadsheet I just played mafia for 16 years and have anecdata
Organic isn't the right word but I couldn't figure out the right word. "The other stuff" is what I meant
Yes O-Ring is a 3 mana enchantment
Your experiences do not qualify as evidence that a methodology is bad, only that it doesn't suit your style. Just as its experiences do not qualify as evidence that Dave's curmudgeoning is explicitly scum, despite it being a familiar feeling to it. It understands that there are cultural differences and playstyle gaps. It has already assuaged two different concerns that it would base itself solely on mechanics, when infact it is clearly doing more than that. But information is information, and if it can use draft info to help corner scum, it's going to do that.
You don't have to brag about being obv town O-Ring c'mon
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Post #215 (isolation #44) » Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:57 pm
Postby May »
In post 62, June wrote:
also i think that like every single iteration that i've played of this setup or almost all of them there's been at least one person who goes "noooo the draft means nothing ignore it" but then we used the draft to solve the game or made it easier at some point so there's that
I didn't like this post cause it's written from the perspective of previous games where you were town instead of this game where you are town[?]
It has interesting thoughts about that number. It felt it was strange to submit a number that would be guaranteed to be unique but had no chance of being lowest, as if the intended effect was to land squarely in the middle. It wonders why anyone would want that?
do u actually think ur going to get someones alignment from what numbers they picked. Or from all the history of this setup u looked at has anyone found scum from the draft numbers.
I personally don't care that much its a quasi funny intro to talk about the game but other than that its background noise to me.
It thinks it is a waste to leave information on the table when that information can assist us. That said, it doesn't think that the information itself is a useful tool for deciding our direction.
It is of the opinion that using that information as a Blade to delve into how others respond and play around it, like a sword dance, is valuable.
You don't watch the sword, you watch the footwork the sword forces to see the true intent of your opposition.
(It knows that is probably a corny metaphor but it quite likes it.)
This post kind of undermines any positive image for being the setup spec super jewelry of this particular run of the mech heavy setup so that's towny
It has interesting thoughts about that number. It felt it was strange to submit a number that would be guaranteed to be unique but had no chance of being lowest, as if the intended effect was to land squarely in the middle. It wonders why anyone would want that?
do u actually think ur going to get someones alignment from what numbers they picked. Or from all the history of this setup u looked at has anyone found scum from the draft numbers.
I personally don't care that much its a quasi funny intro to talk about the game but other than that its background noise to me.
It thinks it is a waste to leave information on the table when that information can assist us. That said, it doesn't think that the information itself is a useful tool for deciding our direction.
It is of the opinion that using that information as a Blade to delve into how others respond and play around it, like a sword dance, is valuable.
You don't watch the sword, you watch the footwork the sword forces to see the true intent of your opposition.
(It knows that is probably a corny metaphor but it quite likes it.)
This post kind of undermines any positive image for being the setup spec super jewelry of this particular run of the mech heavy setup so that's towny
It knows you are drunk and about to board a plane but could you take a moment to restate this so it can attempt to parse? It is truly lost on what this means.
The post isn't very lamisty
I'm about to deboard a plane and am not drunk it's miserable
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Post #345 (isolation #54) » Wed Feb 28, 2024 5:15 pm
Postby May »
In post 238, Oblivion wrote:
Can it say that while it intellectually understands that all this masonry talk is kind of town block building from the foundation of what appears to be prior friendships for the sake of building something, emotionally this just feels like an in-group deciding who is and isn't town based on said friendships and gaining voting block control to dictate how things go, and it really doesn't know how to remotely interact with it. It feels massively uncomfortable, and it makes it sort of not want to interact with anyone who participates.
In short, it sucks that the depth of about four different players content in this game is wholy this thing, and that this thing is more or less just an exclusion method. It hates it, quite a bit.
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Post #347 (isolation #55) » Wed Feb 28, 2024 5:22 pm
Postby May »
In post 300, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
If you somehow had a reliable method to appear town in even over 50% of your games, you would probably have some mastery over some part of human psychology and should probably be doing better things besides / in addition to playing Mafia.
This really boils down to "Mafia would be fundamentally flawed if there were a general method to fool people into believing that you are town."
Don't worry, I play competitive pokemon when I'm not playing this beautifully flawed game
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Post #359 (isolation #59) » Wed Feb 28, 2024 5:39 pm
Postby May »
In post 319, June wrote:
i actually dont think in general 'this' is how i would play as a wolf anymore it's not really fun to do nothing and then die for it
