In post 391, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:also which games have you read of mine
because then you'd know that that's something I believe
In post 397, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:^ last time i criticized an rqs i felt was bad
(they flipped town but still, case can be right, flip wrong)
In post 398, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:final thoughts before lifetm
i'd like to know more about your rask read
cass, cassie?
avatar would be nice btw pretty sure you're not going to flake
not a he
~<3
In post 398, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:final thoughts before lifetm
i'd like to know more about your rask read
cass, cassie?
avatar would be nice btw pretty sure you're not going to flake
not a he
~<3
In post 185, mattblackguy wrote:So far I read both Rask, and Giga as town. To me it seems like Rask is trying to put some pressure on ThinkBig, and get more analysis from people, which seems like a town thing to do. I can't seem to put into words why I think Giga is town besides the fact that I think all of thier posts seem pro-town.(sorry for vagueness :/)
At first I didn't think anything of ThinkBig asking questions but him claiming at L-2 seemed very odd to me. Like (1) I don't think anyone had intent to lynch him especially when we have 13 days left in the day, still have plenty of discussion left, and 2 people still haven't posted. (2) A vanilla townie claim doesn't really have much weight to it, because wouldn't everyone claim vanilla townie on day 1? It's not like a power role would claim their actual role day 1 because they would know they would die that night, and all mafia would also claim vanilla townie.
I'm not sure what to think about Creature at the moment. It seems he's being vague with all his posts, and can't get a read on him.
Everyone else I'm pretty much null on.
(sorry if my reads/analysis sucks. I'm just typing what comes to mind, and would very much appreciate feedback on how I can improve)
In post 400, cassielle wrote:rask; explain that out of thin air l-1 crap pls? yeah sur eit was really l-2, but you didnt know that so wtf? explain yourself, what on earth was the point of it, why did you do it? why did you expect tb to be a good candidate for that kind of pressure even???
In post 442, cassielle wrote:noobscum imo:
will panic and flounder a bit. they dont have guidance until night-talk.
will lurk a lot.
are going to be self-analytical, watching their words, persona, actions, etc.
will tend toward posts with polished presentation, low content, high word count.
will flail with reads (massive back and forth).
In post 555, mattblackguy wrote:I don't put too much weight into activity because it can be easily fabricated (See Rask). I guess I would say my scumreads come mostly from the type of content I see people post, and tone. If I feel someone is putting their reads out there, and is genuine with what they say (meaning they 100% believe what they are saying) then I'm more likely to town read them. It's the main reason I have a townread on schadd.
And again I try not to post if my post isn't going to advance the game at all. I don't like fluff too much, and try to avoid it when possible, which is why my post count is so much lower than many others.
In post 494, Shade wrote:@gigabyteTroubadour I was suspecting gayreen as scum. That was the main reason I asked questions about your reads cause your read about gayreen felt really weird to me. I don't suspect him as scum with TB necessarily, not sure why you were expecting me to scum read them as a team. The way he kept his vote around as a threat and got confused after TB claim is actually scummy to me but first thing that came to my mind was the way he was asking for permissions to vote [like asking help from a more talented player] and I voted ThinkGig mainly to see what will you and GAYreenHamster do about it (and to actually remind ThinkBig to answer my question) which was disrupted with this wagon on me.
In post 272, Shade wrote:Second I didn't vote Thinkbig for his claim. I'm voting him because I want him to answer "why he claimed".
Fourth What about my vote was scummy?
In post 678, cassielle wrote:-GREY- MASTERPOST:
530: intro post. high in character but contentless. NAI.
534: FIRST post worth commenting on??? commenting on MBG's list at 239, not saying a word about those weird ass claims and such prior? arguably this is NAI leaning town but im suspicious af about there being nothing to comment on from 135 to 160-ish just for example. #535 still leaning on MBG but it is valid and in order here.
538: contentless expression of confusion at one of rask's lists. #539 is vaguely towny. leans on mbg for more info. can someone tell me what they think about the info hes pressing for here? is there even a point to asking that in that post? im uncertain, i tend to lean toward yoinking maximum info out of EVERYONE for exactly the reason of what i am doing rn. either way #541 drops it.
#544 is contentless expression of dislike toward SOMETHING to do with creature. what? who knows!
#547 is vaguely scummy imo -- expresses disgust with mbg pulling vote off player to be replaced who had prior contributed literally almost nothing. its giving the newcomer a fair chance to make their name lol, that is the correct motorcycle when lurkers replace out (obv diff players are a diff story)
#548 is defensive of GAYreen. the whole awareness of sheeping thing is consistent throughout matts ISO, even if he engages in it. its, as i said before, practically his playstyle to follow the town leader while loudly expressing said player could lead everyone right off a cliff. why is -Grey- defensive when they read #369?
#551 is fair, multiple others have stated the same at about the same point.
#552 seems to be a scumslip? town can easily see the paranoia that would lead to #431, no one else questioned it, even mbg seemed to take it in stride, treat it as fair.
#554 seems to also imply scumminess -- scum skim, town deep-reads. on a skim my list there is bad. the shallowest of deep-reads reveals i imply that is to be expected. context in thread also does.
#558 is an interesting readslist that i wanted to ask some questions on but got caught up in getting the noose on rask. by now my main concern (mbg's placement) is no longer a thing, but thats more my fault for getting a bit tunnelled looking for an out from the apparent kumbayaland gameplay than it is anything else.
#568 reads as completely unaware of the thread. rakkar DID NOT POST. even just clicking the activity overview will tell you exactly what changed there lol. this is a clear scumslip from where im standing.
#570 i can practically hear "target locked." thats a bit of hindsight but jfc
#571 dismisses a valid line of reasoning. in fact, a line of reasoning used by mbg and accepted by grey at that point as well! see #541
#578 is CONVINCING REASONING. the speed at which it came out of fuckin nowhere was not. i recall feeling this way when i first saw it, but i was (and to a slightly reduced degree, am!) so convinced of rask flipping red that i just sat on it (see my feelings on mbg as poss. scumteam member in #604)
#582 casts shade but doesnt claim towntell or scumtell, just "tell". mbg's noob, implies NOOBtell to me. #582 feels light anti-town to me -- either greys ignored everything up to this point while reading through or hes scumteam, otherwise hed realize hes probably seeing mbg's repeatedly stated inexperience with mafia lol
#586 is further contentless shade casting on mbg. while i agree its indicative of something, i did not and do not agree its enough to even FoS mbg rn, we need to focus on our bigger scumbags. its also an ULTRA-easy read, which is why i was dismissing peoples concerns with gayreen changing mind on the tb l-1 -- thats a copout read, it stands out, grabs attention and means nothing. scum can use it to pretend they have real opinions
#592 is stating the obvious in a dickish manner. arguably nai but im leaning scum with it combined with the rest.
#605 is fair. i agreed then, i agree now.
#609 feels like its pushing for an immediate lynch. its trying to corner rask into a "well thats scum claim" position. i even gave rask an out from that in 610 because W T F. i dont mind that sort of play but we have A FULL WEEK OF DAYTIME, you corner someone that way on the last day of day phase rofl you dont do that shit midway through, wtf??? scum af here
#629 dismisses at least three separate concerns with mbg as "nah its all cool" including 582-592! wtf? NAI but mbg and -grey- are going to be opposite factions p sure
#637 why did it take this long for this? why? rask claimed a full HOUR prior. W T F. and why the hell put pressure on tb again? what is the point here? what more is going to come of this? i make this point several times around here, saying "no more than l-2" and gbT and -Grey- are BOTH dismissive of my point here, but gbT is trying to allay concerns while -Grey- (#644) is sayingthat everything points to TB=scum anyway so who gives a fuck. S C U M
someone convince me im reading GAYreen+-Grey- wrong pls? Creature? anyone? im p sure you guys cant.
In post 729, -Grey- wrote:Wrong. Once you find scum, you lynch scum. Deadline is irrelevant. Putting off the Lynch simply because of the deadline only serves to give scum extra time to wiggle out of the noose.
In post 492, cassielle wrote:something to think about tho for my scumreads: me calling you out is a chance for you to get yourselves off the hook. i am not tunneling in on you, i am aggressively pursuing players who ping my scumdar heavily. this is a chance for you to convince me those were misfires, and i am not an unreasonable person. scum will find my questions difficult. town knows why they do things, they should not have much trouble with them. im hoping at least one of you is scum, gonna be honest, but itd be nice to sort out the at least one innocent from the pile early on so we can take this game by end of d2, so im sure hoping you guys understand i dont want you to fight me, i want you to convince me. things will go quicker like that, js.
In post 764, -Grey- wrote:That's twice now I've caught her missing information after accusing me of being scum for missing information.
In post 773, -Grey- wrote:In post 772, cassielle wrote:i did not intentionally misrepresent you. if i misrepresented you at all i dont want you to jump on me with both feet and just start beating tf out of me, i want you to point out specifics calmly.
- Accusing me of defending my predecessor
- "target locked" commentary about my 570
- accusing me of being Scum for skimming when you've done the same
- twisting my playstyle as being alignment indicative
In post 848, mattblackguy wrote:I was trying to look at the game from the perspective of others, and how others view me.
-Grey- wrote:In post 1024, cassielle wrote:p-edit: GAYreen was a weird case. my read is "probably town" but i examined that ISO front and back and theres weirdness that feels noob, but GAYreen wasnt a noob iirc
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What is he, then?
first post in topic from gayreenIn post 85, GAYreenHamster wrote:OK i'm here now, just got out of school, anyways, I came from PS! Mafia like gigabyteTroubadour did. So why is TB being lynched?
In post 1185, Raskolnikov wrote:okay now you're taking it too far
you know you only have like 2 votes on you right?
In post 1191, Creature wrote:tbh schadd_ flipping town would also help.