Open 688: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)

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Will read super late tonight. Watching movies with friends someone want to catch me up?

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@mod is a deadline extension possible considering replacements?

TBH, I don't see anyone making use of the time they had, but I'll consider adding another 72 hours if you promise to get the game moving.

P.S. I'm not being a dick. It's just that more time could potentially mean more replacements required.

VC 2.13

Sesq

(4): MuttonChopMagic, Titus, Vedith, NotTheRealPaul,

Gamma Emerald

(1): jjh927,

Agent Sparkles

(1): Gamma Emerald,

Titus

(1): Navy,

Vedith

(1): alban,

NotTheRealPaul

(1): Sesq,

MuttonChopMagic

(1): Agent Sparkles,

Not Voting

(2): Hellfire Missile, NJAC,
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

*Added 72 hours to deadline.

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-06-21 18:00:00)[/area]

I would love an additional 24 personally but I leave it up to mod Almighty

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A bit confused on the yellow though. If you added 72 already please disregard.

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@Mod

My vote should be on Gamma, not myself

I know. Ahem. That was a test.. to see if anyone actually does check the VC.

I skim them I has sads

VCs are the bread and butter.

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Guaranteed scum in doc claimers, so I'm not voting you today.

Bad news for you, Hellfire looks like scum and we're lynching Sesq.

?? Why is this "bad news"?

Sounds like you claim Trump.

It is only "bad news" if they are Town as I am.

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Based on the timer I believe our mod is merciful and giving

Praise be.

Reasons for your reads?

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Reading now

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VC 1.01

aronagrundy (5)

: Gamma Emerald, LunaeCinere, NotTheRealPaul, aronagrundy, Sesq,

Creature (1)

: CommKnight,

CommKnight (1)

: Hellfire Missile,

Sesq (1)

: Pyra,

Not Voting

(5): Creature, TheYankeeReaper, Cooperative Sheep, alban, ShadedMelee,

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-06-02 18:30:00)

Gamma V/LA till Tuesday 23rd

Also, remember to read the setup wiki if you hadn't already.

L-2 this fast is weird. I know quick hammers happen (Star Wars) but that means likely at least one scum in this 5.

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Creature
Sesq
Gamma Emerald
LunaeCinere
NotTheRealPaul
CommKnight

I want to lynch whoever replaced Creature. Creature pushed Gamma then switched to a townread of Gamma without an obvious reason.

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Yeah, ShadedMelee and Cooperative Sheep are great wagons so far.

Look at that OMGUS daaaaaaamn.

Seriously I still wish you were here. I scumread you correctly in the newbie game and you got me mislynched when I was being all IC like. You are scumming it up. Prepare to be lynched.

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Best logic aqard goes to Sesq. I mean look at that argument. He really convinced me that hf and al were scum.

I know. Sesq convinced me too /sarcasm

Guess I have to stop pushing Creature /sarcasm

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Up to page 225 and Sesq needs rope. No reason to suspect my slot and is just vote hopping as if he stays too long he will burn up and die.

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Finally! A pagetop!

VC 1.06

Hellfire Missile (3)

:

Sesq, CommKnight,

Gamma Emerald,

Sesq (3)

: Pyra, NotTheRealPaul, Hellfire Missile,

Creature (2)

: ShadedMelee, NJAC,

Cooperative Sheep (1)

: Creature,

NJAC (1)

: aronagrundy,

aronagrundy (1)

: Cooperative Sheep,

alban (1)

: LunaeCinere,

Not Voting

(1): alban,

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-06-02 18:30:00)

i swear to fucking god if i get lynched because Comm was joking and Sesq was being a piece of shit
im gonna be fucking salty
(I see why GE voted me)

Part of me is paranoid that he's signaling to his scumteam to not bus here

This is not the case with CommKnight flipped doctor what do you think now?

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If I am scum buddying you, then you're likely scum with me.

Sesq are you and Creature buddies?

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Had a rough nights sleep. Napping for a few more hours.
Then errands then game then back to this.

Will post as I can later.

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Guaranteed scum in doc claimers, so I'm not voting you today.

Bad news for you, Hellfire looks like scum and we're lynching Sesq.

I am fine with lynching Sesq. And you usually don't read on replace in. So why do you have the opinions you do?

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I'm completely caught up now.

Townreads: Mutton, Titus, Gamma, Vedith
Townleans: Sparkles
Nulls: NotTheRealPaul
Scumleans: Alban, Hellfire/Math, NJAC
Scumreads: Sheep/Navy, Sesq

Explain to me how you aren't bussing Sesq for cred.

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Correct I want to read up before Day ends. This way I can get reactions from people and use that to help form reads. Why are you so anxious to end the day? People know who they want to lynch let me read and poke. Is there a reason you don't want me to?

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My reads:
Town: No one
Town Lean: No one
Null: No one
Scum Lean: EVERYONE

Sorry to those who are actually giving it their effort. You know who you are, so THANKS.

Your reads suck.

<3 you Almost50

VOTE: Almost50

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Correct I want to read up before Day ends. This way I can get reactions from people and use that to help form reads. Why are you so anxious to end the day? People know who they want to lynch let me read and poke. Is there a reason you don't want me to?

I haven't even been in the game since the start and even I'm sick to death of today.
There's more players not trying than there are trying. So you can understand why we want a lynch to occur.

I'm not even saying that everyone has to just vote and lynch Sesq, but people are failing to give reason to by Sesq isn't scum.
If people strongly believed otherwise, they should be trying to convince us, not just parking their vote else where and pissing off.

This. Bahhh.

I think jjh Vedith and I have mindmelded. We shall now be referred to as the Logical Fantasy Group.

....This scares me.

However Sesq scum makes even more sense.

Jjh does not get into a "townblock" with Titus. She tries blocks as either alignment. Vedith sounding Townie is scary I am not used to this.

Mainly I scumread Sesq but hate the wagon however in the interests of fun and I won't be able to finish my read through til tonight/late subday night.

VOTE: Sesq

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Sure, but I'd like to talk to at least a good portion of those people, and it seems Math would too.


Oh, and Math, I replaced into Creature's slot and I fully understand your concerns.

Jjh does not get into a "townblock" with Titus. She tries blocks as either alignment. Vedith sounding Townie is scary I am not used to this.

Why don't I townblock with titus?

You're shaping up to be a great target for me to cop.

Because this is a progression that makes sense /sarcasm

You understand my concerns yet you threaten to cop me when I act ON those concerns.

*shakes head*

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Sesq and jjh conf scum.

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What concerns are you acting on here? Me and Titus TR each other. Are you worried we'll powertown and find the scum?

No I am concerned it will be Thing Mafia all over again. I don't trust you. So I know Titus builds blocks so I am trying to help Titus build one that makes sense. I only have a small amount of time each day for Mafia last thing I want is a game that goes down the crapper because Titus makes a bad town block.

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Maybe I can get into your thought process here? You think sesq is scum because that's what everyone else is saying, and then you think I must be scum because you think I've been wobbling around the subject of me voting sesq.

Simple I scumread you for reasons I already mentioned. I didn't scumread Sesq because everyone else is. That isn't how I roll as any alignment. The latter statement is pretty damning but not the only reason.

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Well that's a fun statement. Does it have grounds or is it floating

...Why didn't you say no? Can't be true. You're actually not I haven't used my Cop yet but let's lynch jjh tomorrow since he tried to ask me if it was a guilty.

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Creature
Sesq
Gamma Emerald
LunaeCinere
NotTheRealPaul
CommKnight

I want to lynch whoever replaced Creature. Creature pushed Gamma then switched to a townread of Gamma without an obvious reason.

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Yeah, ShadedMelee and Cooperative Sheep are great wagons so far.

Look at that OMGUS daaaaaaamn.

Seriously I still wish you were here. I scumread you correctly in the newbie game and you got me mislynched when I was being all IC like. You are scumming it up. Prepare to be lynched.

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Up to page 225 and Sesq needs rope. No reason to suspect my slot and is just vote hopping as if he stays too long he will burn up and die.

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I'm tired good night.

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I have never misread Creature soooo yeah this is happening.

#dealWithIt
#yourOMGUSSucks

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What concerns are you acting on here? Me and Titus TR each other. Are you worried we'll powertown and find the scum?

No I am concerned it will be Thing Mafia all over again. I don't trust you. So I know Titus builds blocks so I am trying to help Titus build one that makes sense. I only have a small amount of time each day for Mafia last thing I want is a game that goes down the crapper because Titus makes a bad town block.

But you've been implying you don't trust me?

I have done no such thing. I have implied I don't like your playstyle.
I also am worried because you did an amazing gambit with RC that you literally spent 20 minutes telling me. XD

So mainly I want to say my opinion clearly so you see it.

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I have never misread Creature soooo yeah this is happening.

#dealWithIt
#yourOMGUSSucks

How many games do you have with Creature

Enough where I quit counting.

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I am not done sorting- just sesq is more of a priority for being sorted. If she's actually not around then we can do shit.


Vedith and Titus are town. The massclaim was a good thing imo.

I wholeheatedly disagree but Titus and I have different ideas on how to play this setup.

Titus wants to mass claim to give scum less places to hide which is good if she is Town.
If she is scum then it gives her a much easier time.

I in general don't support mass claim in the setup because it exposes Town PRs early and makes things a weird clusterfuck. Titus supporting it is NAI.

Vedith I want to see what he does with it.

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Tbh I'd say support for the massclaim is NAI regardless of who it comes from because I can also see merit in not doing it. But I think this is my preference.


Also if I am to believe you have literally never read Creature wrong and have innumerable games with him then am I to assume you are scumclaiming by reading him wrong?

No. You're scumclaiming by not asking how I soulread Creature so damn well.

You're leading all the questions with me having to assume you're Town which you aren't.

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viewtopic.php?f=11&t=71661
RVS is actually one of the most illuminating parts of the game.

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VC 2.16

Sesq

(5): MuttonChopMagic, Titus, Vedith, NotTheRealPaul, Mathblade,

Agent Sparkles

(1): Gamma Emerald,

Titus

(1): Navy,

Vedith

(1): alban,

NotTheRealPaul

(1): Sesq,

MuttonChopMagic

(1): Agent Sparkles,

Not Voting

(2): NJAC, jjh927,
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
*Agent Sparkles V/LA

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-06-21 18:00:00)

Two days left people.
Let's converge and make this happen.

I gotta go to work but the amount of people saying no without pushing their own wagon is crap.

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And this is why I hate replacements. Math has replaced into a slot I suspected.

That is why I like replacing in.
In the newbie game I cited people thought my predecessor scumslipped. The newbies learned you have to evaluate both together.

Similar thinking is NAI. What matters is the person doing the thinking and if it is AI for them.

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A lot of people (me too sometimes) tend to scumread those who disagree and townread those who agree.

Gotta look between the reads.

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Time for a survey

Do you like mutton chop?
On a scale from one to one hundred, how cute are you?
Can you dance?
The pain threshold of most humans, including myself, is thirteen. Can you top it?
One of the lesser known facts about ants is that they can detect a fire. Do you believe this?
Right now, I obsess over Paddy, who I think is incredibly cute. Do you agree with mia?

Yes and no answers only. Any other type of answer will be dismissed and discarded.

Error: Food or player
Error requires a non yes or no answer
Error all people can dance matter of skill level
Error number without definition is subjective
Error need source
Error who is Paddy?

Error not all questions could resolve and user answering thinks this is question set is spam.

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Error Navy please resolve the prior errors.

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haha this guy just put a townie to l-1

VOTE: navy

its omgus but i dont care, you deserve it

Lol this sounds like scum who has given up.

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Greaaaaaat we have someone who pretends to post content and someone who I need to give lots of hugs to.

Because I love them <3

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Since many players have been replaced, the replacements should read the whole game. At from the time that Titus and Vedith got into the game.
My suspicion is that at least one of them is a mafia coz they have been active and they have the experience, and yet they are alive. It makes me suspicious of them. If I were a mafia, I would kill them. The very fact that they are alive makes me doubt them.

I think you are wrong on Titus and she needs lots of hugs <3 <3 <3

Like give her all the hugs.

VOTE: Mutton

Because I have auto hug protocols enabled.

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Furthermore scum don't kill based on replacements they either kill someone they can't lynch or someone who is a threat. Replacement status or not be damned.

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Titus knows why. I will wait a little longer to see how people react.

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All aboard the Titus hug train.

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Boo bad MS you made my gif unreadable

https://media2.giphy.com/media/1GJRIgTY4sS6k/200w.gif

There you'll just have to click on the link people.

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I have to go but I expect Titus to be drowning in my hugs than I have seen votes this game. Won't be on til super late tonight or early tomorrow.

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I'll vote Titus or Math.
Last time they weren't at each other's necks they were both Scum.

Math is not subtle in what they are doing.

Well the person I am talking with hates subtlety <3

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I wanna mind meld with Titus but I have a few people I would lynch and I want her opinions on things.

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Titus I has sads

Come be my thread mason.

VOTE: NJAC

For not posting reads or content and just a massive V/LA.

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Pedit lol

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Titus, do you think there's something fishy in the way Vedith is turning against you? You are coming across as non-committal right now.

Really, I'm very committed to my plan. Lynch within doctors since PoE.

Okay talk with me about all the doctors besides yourself Titus. What's your reads on them?

Pedit okay

VOTE: Mutton

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Titus, do you think there's something fishy in the way Vedith is turning against you? You are coming across as non-committal right now.

Really, I'm very committed to my plan. Lynch within doctors since PoE.

Okay talk with me about all the doctors besides yourself Titus. What's your reads on them?

Pedit okay

VOTE: Mutton

The n1 docs are unlikely to be scum based on how they claimed. That leaves Mutton. The sudden shift to want to lynch away from docs when you practically harding up in this place also suggests a 1 doc 2 cop claim setup.

If Mutton failed to claim change, game became PoE.

Brain hurts I think it is 2 doc 1 cop Titus. I find the doc claims suspicious because then someone can go "Oh our kill did or didn't go through" guess that I know who I can pretend to doc now.

Claiming cop is actually a lot riskier play for scum to make imho.

Plus the distribution of 5/5 would make a lot more sense that way.

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However I do agree Mutton is scum for other reasons soooo let's eat!

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TLDR itlepip's reads are shit Titus and I are obvTown

Mutton needs rope

I am going to bed.

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Claiming cop is actually a lot riskier play for scum to make imho.

Explain that one to me.

TLDR itlepip's reads are shit Titus and I are obvScum

FTFY

Because claiming results would bring attention onto a slot. Claiming cop means eventually if the game lasts to day 6 everyone who claimed cop should have a read. So they have to fabricate a result and that fabrication gets hard. If their target didn't die then why didn't they announce/crumb it the following day? If they did die then why cop someone so obviously Town.

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Creature
Sesq n3 doc
Hellfire Missile cop
Agent Sparkles n1 doc
NJAC cop
Gamma Emerald cop
Titus doc
Cooperative Sheep n1 doc
alban n1 doc
Vedith cop
NotTheRealPaul cop
MuttonChopMagic cop
CommKnight dead doc

So yes it's 6 and 6
So Creature is very likely determining the route of today.

Either Mutton is scum or Titus is wrong on the N1 doc theory or both. I am leaning both.

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Meaning Mutton scum and one of the N1 docs is.

Clarification by way of post.

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I think its more likely N1 docs has a scum in it than mutton.

Going back to the claim switch, scum!mutton has no reason to do it in such a way. It draws way to much attention to himself and not the good kind.

This,

Titus the read list was made hours after most of the catchup, and on thinking people moved a bunch. I really think that the switch is nearly outside of Mutton's range as scum.

Also Mathblade Titus could just be scum.

Titus is scum if you scumread Almost50. I don't scumread Almost50.

I think Titus is onto something here and too many people are shading her and me to all be Town.

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Math also got a new job btw.

Speaking of which I just got home from it. Why are you bringing up my new job?

--Math

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math disappearing after hard softing something thst had no reason to be softed is odd. it's a bit of a bother.
also... I find it unlikely Titus would he her check. this is just wifom, but like, didn't she town read Titus + woldnt you wanna save your check for someone you needed help reading aka not your brother?

Titus is my sister. And I have a hard time reading her. If she was scum I would have taken her out because she can sibglehandedly take out games and either was/damn near close to getting a scummy for this exact setup. She was a fear check because I KNOW the mod has it right.

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Math also got a new job btw.

Speaking of which I just got home from it. Why are you bringing up my new job?

--Math

Last page vanishing.

Lol I post in the AM and after work and if a slow day lunch.

That is it.

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And the TLDR of the last few pages is people think it is Navy + Me + Titus.

Navy is pretty inactive and could be scum even though Titus is town. Not buying that theory. I think I know who Navy's main is and that is coloring my reads slightly but I think Navy is Town because Navy is <redacted> and inactive. So Navy is only a townread whereas Titus is town gold.

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okay well math start with this
do you hard claim an inno on Titus or are you just taking the piss

Oh I hard claimed.

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math disappearing after hard softing something thst had no reason to be softed is odd. it's a bit of a bother.
also... I find it unlikely Titus would he her check. this is just wifom, but like, didn't she town read Titus + woldnt you wanna save your check for someone you needed help reading aka not your brother?

Hey, I'm a woman.

Second, you haven't seen Math and I tunnel each other.

I have seen you tunnel math correctly.
I have not seen math tunnel you directly.
I have also not seen scum!Titus in a long ass time and I've never lost to scum!math (on my account that doesn't rhyme)

And I have seen a random number generator take 10 times before it rolls a 1 on a d6.

Your point?

And you still won't whatever your main is because I am Town.

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First you two being siblings is adorable, good luck with the new job!

Second Math who is the fake doctor?

I think there are actually two fake doctors not just one. Why are you phrasing it as a guaranteed one. I think one is certainly Mutton and Sparkles being another is a theory I was floating around in my head along with a few others.

I think there are two fake doctors one fake cop.

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math disappearing after hard softing something thst had no reason to be softed is odd. it's a bit of a bother.
also... I find it unlikely Titus would he her check. this is just wifom, but like, didn't she town read Titus + woldnt you wanna save your check for someone you needed help reading aka not your brother?

Hey, I'm a woman.

Second, you haven't seen Math and I tunnel each other.

I have seen you tunnel math correctly.
I have not seen math tunnel you directly.
I have also not seen scum!Titus in a long ass time and I've never lost to scum!math (on my account that doesn't rhyme)

And I have seen a random number generator take 10 times before it rolls a 1 on a d6.

Your point?

And you still won't whatever your main is because I am Town.

my point is that Titus said I haven't seen you and her tunnel each other?
which is wrong... which i answered... so why the bother?

Because I hate inaccurate statements being floated out there and then being found and used to substantiate a read. A hard denial of bullshit prevents that rather than leave it up to context.

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Creature
Sesq n3 doc
Hellfire Missile cop
Agent Sparkles n1 doc
NJAC cop
Gamma Emerald cop
Titus doc
Cooperative Sheep n1 doc
alban n1 doc
Vedith cop
NotTheRealPaul cop
MuttonChopMagic cop
CommKnight dead doc

So yes it's 6 and 6
So Creature is very likely determining the route of today.

Now all the docs are Sparkles Sheep Titus CommKnight alban Creature Sesq so far

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And Mutton whoops.

Pedit to avoid having to actually give a result. Fake claiming doc is easier than cop.

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Sparkles Sheep Titus CommKnight alban Sesq and Mutton


Comm Knight and Sesq are dead so they can't be scum.
Titus can't be scum.

So Sparkles, alban, Mutton Navy only possible scum docs and of those I think Mutton and Alban or Mutton and Sparkles. That to me is much more likely than the cops scenario.

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VOTE: math
okay, so I guess I need to start here
if math flips town I (or sparkles/navy if I'm scum) will doc Titus tonight and tomorrow depending on what night we are therefore protecting the clear
at min there's one town there and I doubt scum will risk the 50/50 and creating mylo (or an extra lynch altogether if there's only one scum doc) to save Titus
so, in the world where math is town we get to probably enter lylo with a conf town which is safer than hepatitis
and, I don't see a world where I'm comfortable taking math + inno to lylo rn
plus even if they're town of course scum will try to push them and then
we'd be in a hard spot at that point but
math just accredited Titus in this setup so a conftown Titus in lylo is cool as fucc
I think it's far more likely math is just scum here
for the 4th time her and Titus have given no real reason at all to scumread me dears
Titus could still be town in that world
but math needs rope, they're scummy as ferr

Nope. Not happening. You don't get to lynch shop all day then come back to me to try to get a mislynch.

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VOTE: titus

2 things can happen here, alas
if math hardclaims an inno my lynchpool today is {sparkles, math}
if math flips town I can just doc Titus
and if math flips scum Titus is no longer clearitis
if people believe the claim, sparkles can be roped
also, and I can't stress this enough, tomorrow lylo if a mislynch folks
so if you want to accept maths inno as town you need to me completely solid in that
because tomorrow there's no room for pussyfooting around inoo n shat

though, and this is an important fact
if Titus flips scum navy is no longer a town sack
it still weirds me out that Titus didn't read navy
I haven't seen them as scum together so that world maybe?
otherwise though yea this is town
navy is more useful as scum when around

math disappearing after hard softing something thst had no reason to be softed is odd. it's a bit of a bother.
also... I find it unlikely Titus would he her check. this is just wifom, but like, didn't she town read Titus + woldnt you wanna save your check for someone you needed help reading aka not your brother?

okay well math start with this
do you hard claim an inno on Titus or are you just taking the piss

UNVOTE:

VOTE: math
okay, so I guess I need to start here
if math flips town I (or sparkles/navy if I'm scum) will doc Titus tonight and tomorrow depending on what night we are therefore protecting the clear
at min there's one town there and I doubt scum will risk the 50/50 and creating mylo (or an extra lynch altogether if there's only one scum doc) to save Titus
so, in the world where math is town we get to probably enter lylo with a conf town which is safer than hepatitis
and, I don't see a world where I'm comfortable taking math + inno to lylo rn
plus even if they're town of course scum will try to push them and then
we'd be in a hard spot at that point but
math just accredited Titus in this setup so a conftown Titus in lylo is cool as fucc
I think it's far more likely math is just scum here
for the 4th time her and Titus have given no real reason at all to scumread me dears
Titus could still be town in that world
but math needs rope, they're scummy as ferr

Tried to float myself Navy Titus and now back to me with a little Sparkles thrown in for good measure.

The better question is when haven't you?

And yes your stupid play isn't helping.

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I never said id lynch navy
I said Titus, and if you're claiming an inno of course you get lynched first baby
so the only two lynches I've proposed are{you/Titus, sparkles}
is that "shopping for lynches"? #omgus you're a worse player than I thought I suppose

#IwasFirst
#YourOMGUSIsShowing

Never gonna get scum to say they're scum so I am going to cook dinner instead of arguing with you.

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I never said id lynch navy
I said Titus, and if you're claiming an inno of course you get lynched first baby
so the only two lynches I've proposed are{you/Titus, sparkles}
is that "shopping for lynches"? #omgus you're a worse player than I thought I suppose

#IwasFirst
#YourOMGUSIsShowing

Never gonna get scum to say they're scum so I am going to cook dinner instead of arguing with you.

so your reply to my complete counterargument is a meme and a bye?
in the future id like scum!math to at least try

Your argument isn't an argument and scumMath has a damn good record. Makes me wish I was scum but alas I am Town.

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I crumbed it a lot. read my posts around that time if you're interested (Titus is not)
and why would all 3 scum claim cop in the first place? that situation makes no sense
and and, if they did, there's no real reason to switch because town wouldn't think all 3 scum would claim cop in the first place because there's no way to repent
it's an awful line of argument that we looked at yesterday
we need to flop math for red, hooray.

Scum can has crumbs too.
I can has done it.

[MathBlade]

Why me = fry me

I can start cooking.

I am trying this new thing where I don't drown out the thread in so many words it creates apathy.

So far it shows people are reading my posts.

Bolding and underlining doesn't change reality.

I found scum while reading overnight. Conf Town agrees. Simple as that.

[MathBlade]

Don't defer to me Math. It's creepy.

I am not deferring to you. I agree with you. Huge difference.

[MathBlade]

let's look at this one last time
->you are voting me for poe (rhyme)
->math votes that because you're an inno
->math firmly believes there's 2 doc scum
->this means your entire reason for voting me would be wrong to math (fun)
->math still votes me, to humor a conftown, despite the conftowns premise being wrong
->despite maths own beliefs directly disproving your reason for voting me, and wrecking the full argument (poe), math still votes along
is this the world you expect me to believe?
sorry if I find something this ridiculous hard to conceive

Yup. People can agree on scum for differing reasons but I think Math is just humoring me.

That is incorrect I genuinely think Mutton is scum independent of you.

[MathBlade]

VC 1.15

CommKnight (7)

: Agent Sparkles, Cooperative Sheep, NotTheRealPaul, Sesq, MuttonChopMagic, Hellfire Missile, LunaeCinere,

Cooperative Sheep (3)

: CommKnight, Creature, aronagrundy,

Sesq (1)

: Gamma Emerald,

Creature (1)

: NJAC,

Hellfire Missile (1)

: alban,

Not Voting

(0):
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-06-02 18:30:00)

The VCA for ShadedMelee/MuttonChopMagic on day one is absolutely atrocious.

[MathBlade]

VC 2.18

Sesq

(7): MuttonChopMagic, Titus, Vedith, NotTheRealPaul, Mathblade, Navy, alban,

Agent Sparkles

(1): Gamma Emerald,

Navy

(1): Sesq,

MuttonChopMagic

(1): Agent Sparkles,

Not Voting

(2): NJAC, jjh927,
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
*Agent Sparkles V/LA

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-06-21 18:00:00)

Then compare it to day two...Look at his voting pattern. It screams scummy as fuck. Titus pretty please do your awesome VCA.

[MathBlade]

Like Mutton scum is just...obvious. Like 2+2 is 4. A human requires a heart and a brain. Math has four letters in it. These are all truths.

[MathBlade]

I don't see anything in those two posts requiring Mutton to be scum. Sparkles looks worse there.

I'm not quoting Almost's entire ISO. Sparkles looks not good or bad there but Mutton has either been on conf town or someone I townread (navy) or me the entire fucking game.

[MathBlade]

I don't see anything in those two posts requiring Mutton to be scum. Sparkles looks worse there.

I'm not quoting Almost's entire ISO. Sparkles looks not good or bad there but Mutton has either been on conf town or someone I townread (navy) or me the entire fucking game.

That's usually indicative of townbeard, not scum.

The ghost of Mastina would disagree with you. (See Mastina's VCA guide)

Do your epic full blown VCA please.

[MathBlade]

Vedith-Titus squabble appears fake. I think they are a team.

Mutton Alban and a cop tbd maybe njac and that is why we can't get a scum lynch.

[MathBlade]

Prod dodge as literally no one is posting.

[MathBlade]

kill yourself

...How about you not do things against TOS and not be a butthole?

Can we lynch Mutton please?

[MathBlade]

So because I won't be a mislynch I should not exist in the world?

Wow.

Just...wow.

Will check this game later tonight but my care for this game took a dive faster than a stalled out plane.

[MathBlade]

Titus why are you letting scum mislynch me?

I have an innocent on you. Like I don't get it? Like we don't have any scum lynches this would throw the game into the toilet just so everyone would confirm you. Then you'd have to insta break the game.

[MathBlade]

Kelvin, who do you think is the scum doctor? Let's lynch them.

How could I possibly have an opinion on this? I replaced into a 75 page game three hours ago and made it clear that I had no intention of read it.

On top of that, I don't do reads. I don't trust my reads. Right now, every fiber of my being is telling me to lynch MathBlade, Vedith, and you if Math flips scum. But I've intereacted with nobody, so it's assuredly a paranoid and biased viewpoint.

Luckily, we're in a setup where we can apply some semblance of actual strategy, so my inability to formulate good reads is less of a hindrance. So let's do something strategic instead. As I've said multiple times, suggest a better strategy and I'll consider it. Right now, lynching Docs isn't a sound strategy and lynching Cops with no results is suboptimal. So I want to lynch MathBlade and either confirm you as town or determine that you are a worthwhile Cop target.

And this is a horrible strategy.

You are lynching Town to confirm more Town when the NKs will do it for you.

Instead you should be on who you think scum is.

Then again I don't blame you. You have a scum spot so it is easy to go with the grain.

[MathBlade]

Furthermore you all are assuming after mislynching me there is a doctor that can act that night.

It is random according to the wiki. There is no world in lynching an outed cop is the proper play. None.

[MathBlade]

Titus why are you letting scum mislynch me?

I have an innocent on you. Like I don't get it? Like we don't have any scum lynches this would throw the game into the toilet just so everyone would confirm you. Then you'd have to insta break the game.

1. Who is scum?

2. How are two votes on you tantamount to scum "mislynching" you? That seems like some really manipulative shit.

3. How would it throw the game in the toilet? We've still got Cops on the board, so we can get info in later days.

4. Unless you die or another Cop clears you, your data is fucking useless to us. And then we'd have to clear that Cop and so on.

5. Apparently this game is in a rough state anyway. So I'd argue the game is already in the toilet. If that's the case, let's start operating strategically.

1) You Alban and NJAC
2) I did a skim count and I think I am at L-1
3) Because if my math is right it would by LyLO and we have zero guarantee there is a doctor who can act tonight. So it is quite possible I would have outed for nothing.
4) No you have to make a judgment call on whether you trust me and then based on that judgment call one way or the other you learn things. (Hint: I am Town)
5) The game is in a rough state because of Mutton just screaming I am scum and throwing a fit when he didn't get his way rather than explaining things.

[MathBlade]

Scum have to kill me or Titus period. Titus and I will wreck this game for scum otherwise.

They can't kill Titus because likely doc. So scum have to go for me or pretty much just gg no re.

Let's not do scum's job for them.

[MathBlade]

You'd have every reason to mislynch me because confirmed Town going into LyLO isn't something scum want.

[MathBlade]

VC 2.18

Sesq

(7): MuttonChopMagic, Titus, Vedith, NotTheRealPaul, Mathblade, Navy, alban,

Agent Sparkles

(1): Gamma Emerald,

Navy

(1): Sesq,

MuttonChopMagic

(1): Agent Sparkles,

Not Voting

(2): NJAC, jjh927,
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
*Agent Sparkles V/LA

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-06-21 18:00:00)

@Alban
I still think Mutton is scum but I would look at the tail end at Navy or you.

Reason being that people have an easier time just plopping on the end and both you and Navy are pretty well invisible.

[MathBlade]

@Kelvin

So much wrong so little time to address it.

Like first we already have mass claimed.

Second Mafia is all about making judgment calls.

Third as scum I can easily snowball you I did it in the other game with you. Only reason I got caught was I fucked up the last NK due to starting my job.

Like this conversation isn't heated at all. I am just playing.

[MathBlade]

You'd have every reason to mislynch me because confirmed Town going into LyLO isn't something scum want.

You're not confirmed town and never will be. It would take three Cops to claim an Innocent on you for you to be confirmed. Or a Cop to claim an innocent on you and then die.

I'll humor your town claim for a second though. Pretend I'm town for a second and let's have a civilized talk about why lynching you would be a bad idea and what some better alternatives would be and why.

There's logically confirmed and practically obvtown. If someone cops someone else and says inno, it screams lynch me before anyone else.

No..It doesn't.

Like wtf?

[MathBlade]

V/LA til Monday

I will still be posting but VERY sparingly.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Agent Sparkles

Alban, let's do this.

Honestly, at this point, I'll settle for a Titus lynch. I don't like that it won't confirm MathBlade's alignment if she flips town, but I'm almost willing to make that bet , if people are just going to be obstinate about MathBlade for no good reason. It's certainly a worse play than lynching Math, but it's better than any other possible wagon in this setup.

Yeah you've just shredded why I thought your slot was town. You can't seriously push Math as a strategic lynch and then turn around and want to lynch the person Math says is town. That's just garbage. I can't get why any rational player would do this and it reeks of you just wanting to push anywhere BUT the n1 doctors.

Titus join me on Kelvin.
Honestly I think today's lynch is gonna be really hard simply because of inactive lurkers.

6 to lynch and a whole lotta lurkers. Work with me Titus. I can compromise to Sparkles later if it takes off.

Will write more when time allows

[MathBlade]

Blatant dodging and too many words to read.

[MathBlade]

Blatant dodging and too many words to read.

I'd appreciate if you weren't just purposefully vague.

If I had time to read everything I would be more clear. You can appreciate what you want but...I am walking or the door now.

[MathBlade]

Just got home. Will read this in the AM.

[MathBlade]

I'll deal with this in the morning. But please for the love of God do something other than tunnel on Math. It makes me want to never ever lynch them.

The problem is, your staunch defense of Math makes me feel like I'm on the right track, because it feels like you are dead set on shutting down any conversation on a Math lynch for what appears to me to be no good reason. Which also increases my feelings that you are scum. And which is why, if you are town, I need you to understand this is why I fucking hate reads and don't trust my own or anyone else's. Hell, even if I'm right and you are both scum, that doesn't fucking help me. For all I know, I'm right for the wrong reasons, meaning that my ability to form reads is still ultimately valueless and destructive.

If you had actually said something based on their play, I'd be amenable to talking with you. You aren't. You're crowing strategy lynch when I'm the one slot in the game that learns nothing from your "strategy" lynch. You aren't having a read. Math also has pissed several people off which makes it an easy scum lynch. I don't expect you to be right, but I do expect a conversation.

What are you talking about? I already said so many times that I want to lynch MathBlade based on their play. I said that my starting point was strategy and that I've also come to believe that Math is scum. Do you want me to quote all of the times that I've said that or attacked Math's play?

This isn't a thing.

If you want to lynch me based off of play then that is a read.
If you want to lynch me based on the fact Titus is innocent then that is strategy. "Coming to believe I am scum" is a read. So again, this is a read.

Either A) You trust your reads and actually use them which makes you a liar to try to get me lynched or
B) You don't trust your reads and therefore don't actually think I am scum so you are a liar to try to get my lynched.

Which one do you pick?

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Navy

Not here policy

Lots of people aren't here. Again. Will join it if it takes off (4+)

[MathBlade]

Don't replace me. I'm still reading. On weekends I can't contribute much.

WRT some recent posts I prefer to lynch Navy than AS. This could change when I finish reading, but meanwhile you have my support on that lynch, Vedith:

VOTE: Navy

...I don't want day to end without NJAC posting content. He said he could do wonders if alive and I want him to prove it.

[MathBlade]

@Kelvin, From any perspective, making Math their problem is completely optimal. I told you that we're not agreeing. We discussed this. If Math is scum, their options are reduced. Don't act like I am ignoring you because I am not agreeing with you.

@Math. I don't want a policy lynch. I want a scum lynch.

Tiiiiiiiiitus.......

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Agent Sparkles

Alban, let's do this.

Honestly, at this point, I'll settle for a Titus lynch. I don't like that it won't confirm MathBlade's alignment if she flips town, but I'm almost willing to make that bet , if people are just going to be obstinate about MathBlade for no good reason. It's certainly a worse play than lynching Math, but it's better than any other possible wagon in this setup.

Yeah you've just shredded why I thought your slot was town. You can't seriously push Math as a strategic lynch and then turn around and want to lynch the person Math says is town. That's just garbage. I can't get why any rational player would do this and it reeks of you just wanting to push anywhere BUT the n1 doctors.

Wait, what's this about

Night 1

Doctors now?

Also, no, Math is the logical lynch. You're the slightly less logical, but still better than everything else lynch, because I'm starting to think you're just scum, so your scum flip is going to prove that Math is town.

Why would I even be afraid of lynching one of the Doctors as scum? I mean, you may not have read any of my scum game PTs, but standard operating procedure for me is to tell my partners that I will bus them without hesitation, if they don't appear town to me. I don't give a fuck about my goddamn partners living or dying and I probably never will. Most of the time, I'm too fucking arrogant to think that I will ever get lynched as scum. And replacing into a widely townread slot (apparently), what would I have to gain to go against the grain when a consensus bus/mislynch is way easier?

Like, are you guys both scum or can you really not stop and look at the situation from my perspective? Seriously, if you're town, just put yourself in my shoes for a second and think about what I'm doing right now and why it's the least scum-motivated thing I could do. Like, sure, I try to emulate my town play when I'm scum, but how is this wildly unpopular push on MathBlade the way to do that? I've got a recent history of being fairly amenable to the reads and wills of others, especially replacing into a large game. Why would I have to shake that shit up as scum?

This post is a scumslip.

If Titus flips scum (which she won't) that would auto confirm me as scum as I would be lying about an innocent on Titus. This reads exactly like you know I am Town and fucked yo.

[MathBlade]

Titus...

Talk with me about my perspective here. I'm pretty concerned about Kelvin faking a guilty. Explain how me voting Navy will help make sure we don't have a mislynch on lylo. Like I'm concerned if I vote anyone else we lose. Show me how that isn't the case.

[MathBlade]

kelvin is a doc....

So? He could say he was a cop and lied or have his buddy do it. I don't see a way this doesn't turn into me v Kelvin and Titus seems to have a plan and I'm trying to talk with her to see what she thinks, ya know being confirmed town and all.

[MathBlade]

So in other words you're going to vote me in LYLO immediately (should that happen) (to paraphrase the wordiness of the above) even though you know it is the suboptimal play. Even though you still think I could be Town.

You aren't advocating what I am doing that is scummy your only argument is that I claimed a cop innocent.

And in MyLO/LyLO that won't fucking matter. All guilties and innocents are supposed to come out before MyLO/LyLO to prevent exactly the play you are suggesting. And you're suggesting you'd do what is negative utility because...why?

Oh right because I am scum because I gave an innocent.

Titus...Help me here please. Like I am lost in the sea of wtf and am trying to get where you are.

[MathBlade]

You know what? Fuck it.

VOTE: Navy

Alban just revealed his scumminess in trying to defend Kelvin. Alban tore Kelvin's case apart yet doesn't actually say why I would be a good lynch. So Navy, Kelvin, Alban?

[MathBlade]

I saw that.

You want to fight? I'm cop cleared honey. You could try to buddy Kelvin harder man.

Navy's posting elsewhere. They aren't posting here because they are scum.

@Math, I don't think you have a single scum in your pool.

Error: Navy Alban Kelvin = scumpool
Error: Navy cannot be scum and not scum at the same time
Error: RC is voting cop clear
Error: The entire game of mafia is reads.
Error Overflow Exception Math too confused by bullshit.

[MathBlade]

Error Math also suffers from lag.

Error Kelvin is trying anything possible to avoid lynching Navy at this point.

We should like do something about my error log people.

[MathBlade]

.......RC As I said earlier I checked Titus because I scumread her a fuck ton each game we play in. She was a policy check for me.

[MathBlade]

I CLAIM COP WITH A GUILTY ON TITUS. WE ARE LYNCHING IN THE TWO OF US, OR MATHBLADE IF I CAN'T NEGOTIATE A TITUS LYNCH.

You're faking. Welcome to the world of RC town fakedom.

/me Le sigh

[MathBlade]

Error Kelvin is trying anything possible to avoid lynching Navy at this point.

Uh, I'm pretty sure I agreed to a Navy lynch if everyone agreed to lynch you tomorrow. I'm not doing everything possible to avoid a Navy lynch, I'm doing everything possible to get a Math/Titus lynch, because I'm pretty sure that's where scum is and your flip would confirm or deny that hypothesis.

Stall tactic 101. Do I need to look up how many times scum have said "Hey mislynch this person and I help you tomorrow" and then conveniently something comes up. Yes you literally are.

[MathBlade]

Error Kelvin is trying anything possible to avoid lynching Navy at this point.

Uh, I'm pretty sure I agreed to a Navy lynch if everyone agreed to lynch you tomorrow. I'm not doing everything possible to avoid a Navy lynch, I'm doing everything possible to get a Math/Titus lynch, because I'm pretty sure that's where scum is and your flip would confirm or deny that hypothesis.

Stall tactic 101. Do I need to look up how many times scum have said "Hey mislynch this person and I help you tomorrow" and then conveniently something comes up. Yes you literally are.

Math, they are tunnelling you. They're playing according to ABR's guide and he's the most toxic player on the site. Ignore them. Focus on Navy.

No they aren't and ABR isn't toxic just aggressive.

They are trying to save Navy that I agree with. RC has made up his mind that you and I are scum and is trying to justify that with a bullshit cop claim. Literally the last few games I have been with RC in he has fake claimed. The amount of fucks I give is zero as I know you're Town.

[MathBlade]

Pedit fuck lag.

Lag has an ID10T error.

[MathBlade]

Error Kelvin is trying anything possible to avoid lynching Navy at this point.

Uh, I'm pretty sure I agreed to a Navy lynch if everyone agreed to lynch you tomorrow. I'm not doing everything possible to avoid a Navy lynch, I'm doing everything possible to get a Math/Titus lynch, because I'm pretty sure that's where scum is and your flip would confirm or deny that hypothesis.

Stall tactic 101. Do I need to look up how many times scum have said "Hey mislynch this person and I help you tomorrow" and then conveniently something comes up. Yes you literally are.

What in the actual fuck are you talking about, Math? Stop misreping me! That's literally the opposite of what I said. What I actually said was "I'll help you mislynch this person today and you help me lynch scum tomorrow."

You're quoting exactly what I said and calling it different. Dude just eat rope.

[MathBlade]

Actually we could just lynch Mathblade.

Or you could ya know actually not try to lynch me because I exist.

Seriously I am the cop with the innocent on Titus. Like you townread Titus...seriously dude wtf?

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Mathblade

Okay!

Alban was a scumread since before I replaced in: is there a reason he's cleared?

Because people mystically don't want to vote him? *shrug*

Like why are you agreeing with scum logic which is always bad to lynch me?

[MathBlade]

Second of all you're so confident I am flipping Town why lynch me at all???

[MathBlade]

Do not bring outside influences into the game - this includes threats, bribes, wagers, promises, "trust tells", alliances, etc. Using knowledge from previous games is perfectly acceptable, but try not to carry grudges from one game to another.

--This Kelvin <<From site rules

Referencing completed games is fine.
Making a promise to do something in a future game is illegal.

[MathBlade]

Ooooh look scum claimed to heal someone then kill them.

Everyone see how to get Titus to townread you. Just townread someone with bad reads and kill them.

That is literally NAI. Like Alban is obvScum

[MathBlade]

Second of all you're so confident I am flipping Town why lynch me at all???

Again, fucking typo. should have said scum. I'm racing to keep up with all of these posts, just like you.

Or you didn't correct yourself and you slipped dude.

[MathBlade]

That's twice now... like how much more obvious do you get?

Navy Alban Kelvin

And Alban is not happening hence my vote where it is Titus. I would rather focus on lynchable scum.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: alban

[MathBlade]

Don't really care which of my scumreads we lynch as long as one goes down.

[MathBlade]

Navy is an alt of an established player.

Alt outing is atrocious. If they are an alt they are an alt for a reason.

[MathBlade]

why are you acting like I should conflate Navy refusing to post with being scum?

No I'm not going to fucking lynch them because if I lynch them you're not suddenly going to start thinking that math or alban are scum.

Yes she will.

As unconfirmed Town she does crazy things like gambits.

As confirmed Town she actually slows down and gets more logical.

[MathBlade]

Okay then if you're town consider yourself a sacrifice to get town on the same page.

No...I have done that before (Gay Mafia) that is literally not a thing and I only did that to save us a kill as my predecessor fucked up the slot. So no I will not go quietly into that bad night.

[MathBlade]

Yup kelvin im keeping my vote for a bit. Im ready to go to either alban or math but Id prefer math.

So where should cops and docs go? I think alban and math depending on lynch. Maybe RV.

Ughhhh why you so scummy too???

[MathBlade]

If you agree that you're claiming scum if you don't vote with me tomorrow, yes.

I'm not literally 100% sure that Navy's town and that's not the point of this exercise but I am not okay with you lynching her and turning on me.

Get it through your head! Titus cannot and will not ever claim be or otherwise work for scum. I checked her. Like... Titus I am trying here *frowns*

[MathBlade]

Hey now I like the part of assuming I am Town. Because it is the truth. Let's start there?

[MathBlade]

RC during the time since we last played together I got a full time job among other responsibilities. I have very little time to spend on mafia and what I do have I don't want to be a clusterfuck. Today I have off but tomorrow I go back to the wisp of lurky non existence since I can't do crap for Mafia at work. So yeah I want my day off to not be a clusterfuck.

[MathBlade]

Like Titus work with RC please so this doesn't turn into an I get mislynched you get shot 0 conf town scenario for LyLO

[MathBlade]

Gamma Emerald rejoins taking back his old slot from Itlepip

Hell yes
Any things I NEED to consider? If not I'll return to my reads from before I flaked.

Titus is confirmed Town. I cop checked her hard.

[MathBlade]

-Math super probably scum
-Titus probably town but being Titus.
-Kelvin town
-NJAC was very probably the N1 save
-Scum in Navy/Alban

Yes RC that world makes sense /sarcasm

[MathBlade]

So RC is basically saying that the game revolves around him. Bullshit imo,
VOTE: RadiantCowbells
Also that cop choice by math is fucking shite but he's not-so-great at reading his sibling so eh. I wouldn't have picked Titus.

They. I am a They.

And RC takes center stage every game I see nothing new.

[MathBlade]

Nice to see you Gamma. Gtg

We massclaimed cop/docs

Navy is scum

I am dtunk

Dear Lord Titus is so drunk she can't spell drunk...Titus...*sighs*

[MathBlade]

She is...She picked Navy you pick Navy you me Titus ride this game as a town block?

I hate Town blocks but in this case it makes sense.

Work with Titus and myself on Navy RC.

[MathBlade]

Except she won't and can't. Navy or Alban.

One of those two has to give us a scum lynch. We all three know this. So the three of us agree. Navy first as Titus and I suspect and if not then we lynch Alban like you suspected. So town block of awesome works together and compromises.

[MathBlade]

And ftr if we lynch in the docs we're copping the shit out of mathblade.

This makes sense.
Let's cop me then build the holy all town Trinity.

[MathBlade]

And ftr if we lynch in the docs we're copping the shit out of mathblade.

This makes sense.
Let's cop me then build the holy all town Trinity.

I'm half tempted to do this, because as far as I'm concerned, a Cop claiming an innocent on you is essentially a scumclaim. But by the same token, I'd rather not waste a Cop on someone who is so damn likely to be scum. Better to use it to try to get actual info.

...Or you could ya know quit pinning your scum team's hopes and dreams on me being a mislynch. Heaven forbid you have to admit I am Town.

[MathBlade]

Reading now...Any questions asked of me?

[MathBlade]

Reading now...Any questions asked of me?

Nope. But if Titus isn't your scumbuddy, you should really thank her postgame for your victory. She's fucking clutch as hell.

-Kelvin

I will thank her when we rout the scums.

[MathBlade]

...RC I have told Titus this and she doesn't get it. I am getting ready for bed please don't fight I don't want to read miles of RC Titus Spam in the morning.

[MathBlade]

we both agree with the assessment that this game suffers from too many cooks in the kitchen but you're refusing to any sort of compromise that isn't literally just your reads being followed.

sorry do you think that you're just better than me and kelvin and others and our reads dont matter? like even contingent on someone being proven right you are just like nah my reads go

?? Why are you yelling at me when I am compromising on Navy and have been trying to get you and Titus to work together ??

[MathBlade]

...RC I have told Titus this and she doesn't get it. I am getting ready for bed please don't fight I don't want to read miles of RC Titus Spam in the morning.

Remember how I said I didn't want to read miles of spam. This definitely qualifies. Navy Alban Kelvin all scums.

[MathBlade]

I thought of a solid idea. We lynch in docs today and we make a cop chain. Here's a starting chain.
Vedith cops Math
I cop Vedith
Paul cops me
NJAC/replacement cops Paul

Or we could not spam for 20 something pages who cops who realize that any such strategy is bullshit as we are all given one night to act and this circle jerk hypothesis shit is crap.

However if we insist on doing this Gamma's plan at least is the best crap out of the crap pile.

[MathBlade]

Damn I ask for simple things like thread not exploding and I come back to 5 more pages.

Catching up now.

[MathBlade]

if math wants to be town they can put their vote where their mouth is.

Omg an Alban wagon! Sign me up!

VOTE: Alban

Maybe I should get a job with normal hours more often.

[MathBlade]

If i hadn't checked you Titus I would be accusing you of buddying lol I feel a bit smothered.

[MathBlade]

They please :/

And lol like seriously unless the game is boned I wreck it on MS unless I fuck up. There's no way in hell I ham things up.

Like dude you townread me when Zakk SK claimed in that game for how long? Be real dude. If I was scum I'd be smoking your ass.

[MathBlade]

They please :/

And lol like seriously unless the game is boned I wreck it on MS unless I fuck up. There's no way in hell I ham things up.

Like dude you townread me when Zakk SK claimed in that game for how long? Be real dude. If I was scum I'd be smoking your ass.

When did zakk claim SK?

When he claimed ascetic. He shoulda been policied.

[MathBlade]

My apologies for mispronouning.

And uhh no you are nowhere near as good as you think that you are as a scum player, regardless of what alignment you are in this game.

You get away with so, so much bullshit simply based on 'oh Math is always a complete catastrophe so them basically scumclaiming means nothing in this game'

and on top of that you're not even that good with a ridiculous amount of benefit of the doubt. winning easy scum games is just that, easy.

Yeah...Gistou and Elemental Trinity would disagree with you.

I have bad games. I have good ones.

However I am damn good as scum. I know you have this whole "omg Math is scum" scare them thing going on like you do every time you're scumreading me. And it never works. Because I am Town.

Kelvin just doesn't want to admit it. Back in that Gistou game fooled 42 different people.

[MathBlade]

They please :/

And lol like seriously unless the game is boned I wreck it on MS unless I fuck up. There's no way in hell I ham things up.

Like dude you townread me when Zakk SK claimed in that game for how long? Be real dude. If I was scum I'd be smoking your ass.

When did zakk claim SK?

When he claimed ascetic. He shoulda been policied.

alban wasn't even in the game at that point. Unless you are talking about me.

I am talking about you. Seriously dude. Like if I was scum I would have you eating from my hand. I just don't give two fucks as I am Town and I am going to properly lynch you.

[MathBlade]

No way I can read all this while game night goes on.

Someone catch me up on what I need to answer if anything.

[MathBlade]

...I have been offline and my three are Kelvin Navy Alban.

[MathBlade]

Just tell me who has majority and I will join it. Can't read to find out what is going on at game night.

[MathBlade]

Lol of those three Giga. Obviously.

[MathBlade]

...I have been offline and my three are Kelvin Navy Alban.

So then no actual words of wisdom, right?

Considering I hadn't and still haven't read the thread since my last post with meaningful content no. Realistically I do not have time over weekends to read this much content. 90% of it I am pretty sure is grandstanding anyway. So meh.

[MathBlade]

...I have been offline and my three are Kelvin Navy Alban.

Just to be clear, the fantasy that you are trying to spin is that all three scum claimed Doctor? And that Mutton, who initially claimed Cop, actually switched his claim to also be Doctor?

The absurdity of this post alone is almost grounds enough for lynching you.

I am not trying to "spin" anything. Those are my scumreads.

[MathBlade]

...I have been offline and my three are Kelvin Navy Alban.

Just to be clear, the fantasy that you are trying to spin is that all three scum claimed Doctor? And that Mutton, who initially claimed Cop, actually switched his claim to also be Doctor?

The absurdity of this post alone is almost grounds enough for lynching you.

I am not trying to "spin" anything. Those are my scumreads.

Those reads make no sense. Why would Mutton fake to ensure the optimal lynch was always in the scum pool? If Mutton's scum, it makes more sense his buddies are cops than doctors.

This was already asked and answered.

He forgot his fake claim or was playing suboptimally.

People don't always play optimally.

[MathBlade]

Alban, I'm only lynching between Navy/Mathblade today and my case strongly relies on POE within the cops since I don't think all the doctors are scum.

RC is town. I've read D1 and neither Creature nor Gamma make sense as N1 kills. I was the shot that night. I know and acknowledge he has a good scum game but Agent Sparkles was also very town and the mechanics suggest he's town. RC being town heavily implies he's reading titus correctly and she and grundy are also obvious town. From that alone, there has to be one scum cop from your pov.

Firmly leaving your vote on RC, who's never getting lynched today, isn't helping anyone. Vote Navy if not Mathblade, but an RC vote is not going to do anything when there's 1 day to deadline left.

I will help "bus" Navy. (I am not scum but everyone keeps saying I am scum with Navy when I have been offering to lynch Navy all day *rolls eyes*)

VOTE: Navy

[MathBlade]

Also I have been townreading most of titus's posts from what I've seen and I really do sympathize with her viewpoint but i don't see mathblade flipping town here ever while Navy is a wildcard (and probably still scum)

Then help me "bus"

A lot of people are inactive it is really close to deadline and I am not offline as I usually am due to my stomach deciding it was me to worship the throne all day. Apparently the thread has too much shit in it.

[MathBlade]

Also I have been townreading most of titus's posts from what I've seen and I really do sympathize with her viewpoint but i don't see mathblade flipping town here ever while Navy is a wildcard (and probably still scum)

Then help me "bus"

A lot of people are inactive it is really close to deadline and I am not offline as I usually am due to my stomach deciding it was me to worship the throne all day. Apparently the thread has too much shit in it.

Can you give me a third scumread if Kelvin is town?

In the extreme ridiculous case Kelvin is town Vedith would be scum.

[MathBlade]

Also I have been townreading most of titus's posts from what I've seen and I really do sympathize with her viewpoint but i don't see mathblade flipping town here ever while Navy is a wildcard (and probably still scum)

Then help me "bus"

A lot of people are inactive it is really close to deadline and I am not offline as I usually am due to my stomach deciding it was me to worship the throne all day. Apparently the thread has too much shit in it.

Can you give me a third scumread if Kelvin is town?

In the extreme ridiculous case Kelvin is town Vedith would be scum.

Math, I know you've been locked onto Kelvin's play being scummy but in the scenario you present, it likely doesn't fit. He'd be creating a setup where the desired lynch is always in his team. Doesn't make sense.

Why would Vedith be scummy?

It isn't so much Vedith scummy it is I townread everyone else more.

[MathBlade]

Also I have been townreading most of titus's posts from what I've seen and I really do sympathize with her viewpoint but i don't see mathblade flipping town here ever while Navy is a wildcard (and probably still scum)

Then help me "bus"

A lot of people are inactive it is really close to deadline and I am not offline as I usually am due to my stomach deciding it was me to worship the throne all day. Apparently the thread has too much shit in it.

Can you give me a third scumread if Kelvin is town?

In the extreme ridiculous case Kelvin is town Vedith would be scum.

Math, I know you've been locked onto Kelvin's play being scummy but in the scenario you present, it likely doesn't fit. He'd be creating a setup where the desired lynch is always in his team. Doesn't make sense.

Why would Vedith be scummy?

It isn't so much Vedith scummy it is I townread everyone else more.

Ok, can you say why everyone is town? Particularly RC?

Where do you think cops should investigate?

Cops should investigate me.

And because RC is being arrogant. In the game I saw him as scum (Civ) he wasn't and tried to control more. Here is arrogant but is trying to work with you.

[MathBlade]

VC 3.15

Mathblade

(4): Kelvin Smith, gigabyteTroubadour, NotTheRealPaul, Gamma Emerald,

Navy

(3): Vedith, Titus, Mathblade,

alban

(1): RadiantCowbells,

Not Voting

(2): Navy, alban,
With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-07-09 21:50:00)

We have less than a day left let's just lynch the fuck out of Navy and move on.

Seriously Titus Kelvin isn't talking down to you from my perspective he's just being a stubborn player.
Giga is paranoid based on the Open we had together and it is why they can't articulate why they want to lynch me. I was scum by play in the game with RC/Giga hydra.

Everyone needs to lynch Navy so we scoot back take a chill pill before people say things they don't really mean. Any "points" anyone has are being drowned out in endless bickering.

We get it y'all think I am scum and sometimes there isn't a damn thing that can be done about it (Sesq slot) but going back and forth at each other's throats (esp Giga and Titus and Kelvin) makes me not want to read this game.

Go take a break or something til you're as chill as the ice in a fridge people.

[MathBlade]

asdlhfsadjfasl

i've been skyping rc for the past few hours asking him if he's ok (he injured himself badly the other day) and he hasnt gotten back to meeee

legit worried about him

That worries me too.

[MathBlade]

Math, with RC and Kelvin holding out, you are the ONLY viable lynch.

And lynching myself is gamehrowing sooo welcome to no lynch land.

Or we could lynch Navy and Kelvin could quit holding out.

[MathBlade]

that plan was originally for scum!Mathblade

...Except I am Town!Mathblade and I don't like how people are just going "yeah we aren't making a plan for Town Math"

[MathBlade]

No. I hate Town math plan.

[MathBlade]

Gamma investigates Kelvin and Vedith investigates RC.

And again this plan just wastes time as we need to lynch Navy and instead we deal with more spam.

[MathBlade]

No way Vedith and Kelvin stay together. All the other cop claims are very likely Town but I don't want Vedith on Kelvin that just gives a recipe for disaster

Where are the Navy votes?

[MathBlade]

a universe where raybells is scum means that creature was nightkilled n1 this game

i refuse to believe that

Or it could mean it's a world where scum chose not to Night Kill to get towncred for a fakeDoc.

You mean like I said earlier and scum ridiculed me for it?

[MathBlade]

Town Math

Vedith investigates Kelvin
Giga investigates Alban
Gamma investigates Navy
Paul investigates Raybells

Scum Math

Giga investigates Vedith
Gamma investigates Navy
Paul investigates alban
Vedith investigates me (bring it)

This is the plan. Unless RC can articulate what the holes are, we're doing this. That was the deal.

paul can keep their investigate
i'm fine with one investigate on one doc since it's coming from conftown

but gamma checks a cop and vedith checks a cop

We are finding the doctor scum with the cops. No diversions. I would be amenable if you talked about things, but you didn't. Cops check according to plan.

sorry but I'm throwing up blood and I have no patience for your shit right now

Go to the hospital please if you are. I think you're Town like me.

mod: Can we freeze deadline so RC doesn't feel like they have to post while puking blood?

[MathBlade]

Go to the hospital please if you are. I think you're Town like me.

mod: Can we freeze deadline so RC doesn't feel like they have to post while puking blood?

I understand your concern, but to what end? You've already been lynched. The deadline doesn't need an extension.

No I haven't I am at like l-3 or something.

We should lynch Navy.

And you know what my reads are people being deeply doesn't change them.

[MathBlade]

Go to the hospital please if you are. I think you're Town like me.

mod: Can we freeze deadline so RC doesn't feel like they have to post while puking blood?

I understand your concern, but to what end? You've already been lynched. The deadline doesn't need an extension.

No I haven't I am at like l-3 or something.

We should lynch Navy.

And you know what my reads are people being derpy doesn't change them.

Ebwop

[MathBlade]

Go to the hospital please if you are. I think you're Town like me.

mod: Can we freeze deadline so RC doesn't feel like they have to post while puking blood?

I understand your concern, but to what end? You've already been lynched. The deadline doesn't need an extension.

No I haven't I am at like l-3 or something.

We should lynch Navy.

And you know what my reads are people being derpy doesn't change them.

Ebwop

I hammered you to avoid a lynch on you in lylo. You didn't deserve it but I am sick of being spoken down to.

I am so not hammered. We can still fix this people and lynch Navy.

[MathBlade]

Go to the hospital please if you are. I think you're Town like me.

mod: Can we freeze deadline so RC doesn't feel like they have to post while puking blood?

I understand your concern, but to what end? You've already been lynched. The deadline doesn't need an extension.

No I haven't I am at like l-3 or something.

We should lynch Navy.

And you know what my reads are people being derpy doesn't change them.

Ebwop

I hammered you to avoid a lynch on you in lylo. You didn't deserve it but I am sick of being spoken down to.

I am so not hammered. We can still fix this people and lynch Navy.

MathBlade, learn to Math.

I need 314 votes to lynch. Vote Navy.

[MathBlade]

Yeah sorry I need 314 votes to lynch.

See my avatar. Learn to Math

[MathBlade]

Yeah sorry I need 314 votes to lynch.

See my avatar. Learn to Math

So you're just gonna scumclaim here then, right?

I am not hammered people vote Navy.

[MathBlade]

But...314 votes to lynch.

Or 6 hugs between all active players between each other.

Be nice.

[MathBlade]

Guys, what's the site policy regarding asking for another player to be replaced in a game? Like, I don't know about the rest of you, but if we can all request Almost50 to replace Vedith, I think we should. The only issue I have there is that he might be scum and this is just a shitty tactic to not be useful.

Site policy is you can have a player force replaced for breaking site rules. That's it.

They cannot be force replaced for content or beliefs. Lack thereof can be asked and mod call.

[MathBlade]

why did titus suddenly decide that math was hard bussed after she got lynched but before the flip?

Because I need 314 votes to be lynched and sooo since people don't want to lynch scum they lynched me instead.

[MathBlade]

Titus I innocented you.

[MathBlade]

Titus I innocented you.

Scum can buddy. I find it ridiculously unlikely.

Titus you really fucked up if I am lynched. Navy was still attainable.

[MathBlade]

If you were town, you earned your own mislynch.

Yeah.... No.

Yes I earned my own mislynch by innocenting Titus.

*rolls eyes*

[MathBlade]

RC yelled for Math lynch appealing to Kelvin who interpreted everything Math did as scum.

You basically voteparked and did nothing which made players not want to lynch Navy.

I've had a shit week and even worse day. Sorry for not putting my main focus in a game where you couldn't wait a little longer to not lynch Math.
But sure, lets try to move the blame away from you for lynching Math instead of Navy.

Yep this loss ain't on me.

[MathBlade]

The only thing my lynch does is ensure cops never claim jack ever in this game. What are you gonna do when three cops claim? Can't lynch em all Kelvin.

My lunch was never optimal in any world. You fear tunneled me.

[MathBlade]

If they all claim Innocents? Lynch them one by one, probably. It's arguably the smartest play.

Lynch all the cop claiming innocent...


Oh... my... fuck...

I hope you're trolling...
If not... Oh... My... Fuck...

I've literally been saying it all this time. It's not trolling, it's called strategy.

Saying it doesn't make it good.

I can say lynch in the digits of Pi every game that doesn't make it a good strategy.

[MathBlade]

I am MathBlade the Unlynchable...

(Seriously Almost50 would love a VC)

[MathBlade]

How exactly can I help? All people are doing is saying plans that won't be followed and are brandishing their egos. I don't think I am lynched and I am being transparent. My reads are transparent.

The best "help" that can happen is Spam and ego reduction.

[MathBlade]

Uhmmm weren't you scum in civ? Fuck I think I am messing up my games.

[MathBlade]

Biochem, not civilization.

Link?

Like seriously if I die Titus is confirmed Town remember that.

[MathBlade]

jjh slot died because it threatened a cop on me and I was the only active scum and I didn't want the game to go into a stagnant fest and be fun.

I gambited Titus innocent so Titus didn't tunnel me as she is prone to do as again at that point only active scum.
Having RC and Gamma come back was insanely helpful.

GG Town and nice work scumbuddies.

[MathBlade]

You were right on me

[MathBlade]

You were right on me

Yeah, but were we right for the right reasons? And even if we were, as a town, we were still wrong on almost everything else.

Whelp...That's my job as scum.

Granted this game Hellfire had a limited shelf life it was more getting all I could.