Demon Slayer - Kimetsu no Yaiba (Game over)

[GrandpaMo]

Honestly I think grandpa still looks bad personally, his claim was flimsy and then along with the discard matching mine is weird.

If ranger is town the POE FL looks a lot worse.

Enchant is still likely poisoner.

Dunno pink, I'm willing to work with you now tgat you calmed me down. I can isolate enchant and two other people tonight if I go back to 3 blood. One could be you if you don't have an activation tonight.

i literally claimed first. my claim wasnt flimsy it was just late and thats because i had to catch up on something and wanted to come up with a plan for town. but ig no one fucks with it so ima just keep my mouth shut.

we just keep repeating shit or keep going back in circles.

im down to vote anyone today.

but this is what im talking about like we all say oh enchant is likely posioner but dont push them? we all soft pushes but its like enchant this whole game been scumread by atleast one of us at one time and no one has made pressure or a valid push besides me. thats why im voting them rn but ig no one wants to listen or read any of my posts so yep

No one is pushing enchant cause there's a soft guilty on ranger. Also not your doscard claim, your role claim and actions. Also the fact you could have been blocked from killing anyone by my ability. I'm still under the impression I stopped the nightkill.

But w/e I'm not pushing you today anyhow. It's ranger, then enchant, then you, then FL for me atm in terms of what I want to flip the most.

ur role imo doesnt matter because its either i could have been scum who u stopped me from killing someone or firebringer could have been scum but its also the fact that scum could have killed me, fire, or u and we could all be town. or u didnt do anything because gif doc saved pb. if pb was saved that means pb is confirmed and that means klick and ranger is more likely to be scum.

tldr; ur role is very swingy and shouldnt be taken into consideration rn. do u understand? i feel like rn ur role can be resolved by tmr because u couldhave the ability to try again and iso 3 new people that we all collecetivly agree on. does that make sense -- but rn no one is even 100 perecent on u. so who who knows

but also 2: if we agree on who scum is or the voting pattern? then why do u want to vote me? why do u think i would bus 3 times???

[GrandpaMo]

flavor leaf are you third party nexus?

[GrandpaMo]

Shoot:

Enchant

[GrandpaMo]

Wtf

wanna claim now?

[GrandpaMo]

Wtf

wanna claim now?

What for

ur shot

[GrandpaMo]

Wtf

wanna claim now?

What for

ur shot

You think i fall for this blaff?

I am imunne to threats when you learn?

forgive me savior.

my gambit has failed u

[GrandpaMo]

Wtf

wanna claim now?

This is fake news because that’s not how you use your ability in this game :^)

oh do u wanna test it?

[GrandpaMo]

holy shit FL , i thought post was from FA lol

[GrandpaMo]

Gonna check out the final 3 wagons. I think there are some mid vote counts that could be juicy, but gotta setup a base first for me to do random vote counts later with these as check points.

Imaginality

(9) [Eliminated]: Firebringer,

Flavor Leaf

,

Doctor Drew

, hebichan, GuyInFreezer, Ranger, Klickwork,

BlueSnakelet

, GrandpaMo

BlueSnakelet

(4):

IceDragon70

, Pink Ball, KawaiiKame,

furtiveglance

Firebringer (1):

imaginality

KawaiiKame (1):

Black

Flavor Leaf

(1): Enchant


Not Voting (1):

Kokichi Oma

I don't think Imaginality was a high enough target here to warrant all scum being on this. Going with the idea of 4 scum,I think there is at least 1 more scum on here, probably 2. There is likely 1 scum off the wagon within Pink Ball/Enchant/Kawaii. I don't think PB is scum.

BlueSnakelet

(8) [Elimination]: Ranger, Pink Ball, GuyInFreezer,

IceDragon70

, Firebringer,

Flavor Leaf

,

Doctor Drew

, Klickwork
Firebringer (1): Enchant


Gif and Firebringer are the only ones that have been wrong this whole entire game which is funny.

If we are assuming third wagon was a bus, Pink Ball doesn't look good imo

Not Voting (5):

furtiveglance

, KawaiiKame, hebichan,

BlueSnakelet

, GrandpaMo

Annoyingly this has been a time I went against my own read, and voted Blue despite feeling he was town. Same thing here, I do think at least 1 more scum was on this wagon, but there could be 2 off considering it was a wagon that was likely going through. Kawaii and Enchant not looking good.

Doctor Drew

(7)[Elimination]: Ranger,

Flavor Leaf

, hebichan, Klickwork, Enchant, Pink Ball, GrandpaMo
Klickwork (1):

Doctor Drew

Not Voting (4):

furtiveglance

, Firebringer, GuyInFreezer, KawaiiKame

Scum bussed here. It's obvious. Probably 2 scum even.Not impossible all 3, but normally scum dont want to all be on the same wagon like that, so I wanna think one stayed off. Again not good for Kawaii slot, but they siteflaked if I recall correctly.

[GrandpaMo]

where the hell did my text go.

oh it went isnide

sorry!!

here is what i said

"Gif and Firebringer are the only ones that have been wrong this whole entire game which is funny.

If we are assuming third wagon was a bus, Pink Ball doesn't look good imo"

[GrandpaMo]

where the hell did my text go.

oh it went isnide

sorry!!

here is what i said

"Gif and Firebringer are the only ones that have been wrong this whole entire game which is funny.

If we are assuming third wagon was a bus, Pink Ball doesn't look good imo"

You called me out earlier for saying that. Because I agree, I just don't think he's scum here.

a lot of my mind changed last time u posted. but omg we agree?

[GrandpaMo]

where the hell did my text go.

oh it went isnide

sorry!!

here is what i said

"Gif and Firebringer are the only ones that have been wrong this whole entire game which is funny.

If we are assuming third wagon was a bus, Pink Ball doesn't look good imo"

Are you kidding me? Do you remember how the last day ended? The only way I’m scum is if I’m scum with you. If I’m scum, I let a demon scum partner to have the hammer. Either all my scumteam are humans included myself, or I’m scum with you

nah, . i hammered it to bait the nk on me . thats why icommuted that night and ultimately took charge of that nk happening in the day because i thought mafia targeted me because i commuted.

t

[GrandpaMo]

so what are we waiting for now? kawaii?

[GrandpaMo]

That's legit question because i don't understand

i think i summed it up pretty well.

It's not about you lying. It's about cryptic playstyle that you have been doing for the past 4 days. Drew did the same thing -- I called them out on it. Guess what, they flipped scum.

So, I wouldn't be surprised if you are scum as well. I didn't forget the whole ordeal last day where you were screaming to get your point across. Your energy changes drastically -- and I believe that is a scum motivation depending if the game is going in your favor or not.

I don't know if you want to be elimated, but it seems that you do. I was thinking about how Flavor Leaf could be more third party, if not you. You give jester vibes if you're third party.

But at this point -- I feel like you are in every world that someone has created for ranger, klick, and x

Scumteam is just probably Enchant, Ranger/Hebi (one of them) , PB/Klick (one of them). With third party being Flavor Leaf.

[GrandpaMo]

is it bad that i wanna vote kawaii?

[GrandpaMo]

That's legit question because i don't understand

i think i summed it up pretty well.

It's not about you lying. It's about cryptic playstyle that you have been doing for the past 4 days. Drew did the same thing -- I called them out on it. Guess what, they flipped scum.

So, I wouldn't be surprised if you are scum as well. I didn't forget the whole ordeal last day where you were screaming to get your point across. Your energy changes drastically -- and I believe that is a scum motivation depending if the game is going in your favor or not.

I don't know if you want to be elimated, but it seems that you do. I was thinking about how Flavor Leaf could be more third party, if not you. You give jester vibes if you're third party.

But at this point -- I feel like you are in every world that someone has created for ranger, klick, and x

Scumteam is just probably Enchant, Ranger/Hebi (one of them) , PB/Klick (one of them). With third party being Flavor Leaf.

@enchant read ur case here

[GrandpaMo]

is it bad that i wanna vote kawaii?

I get it, but it's kind of not necessarily the priority vote unless we literally can't decide. Kawaii slot ain't slipping through the cracks, i'd rather get a different slot.

But I'd go any of the people in my pool

but isnt kawaii always confirmed scum because they are in every world. see for example, there is a possibility that ranger could be town -- a small chance but enough for them to flip -- kawaii is always confirmed since they are in every pool, so isnt it the more logical sense due to associations?

[GrandpaMo]

Kawaii slot is like the least priority of all, it would give no information whatsoever. We have 12 real days for this phase to end, let’s wait for the replacement so at least we get a real claim from them

i can do this , lets wait

[GrandpaMo]

Why are y’all so hellbent on ending the day so early

Votes off please

Use hurt or something

I'd just rather see who acts on it with momentum tbh.

Last thing I want to see is accidentally reaching E-1 and someone like Mo lolhammering because he came up with some “game-breaking strategy”

smh and will

[GrandpaMo]

ngl gif, u made me bust out laughing with that one

[GrandpaMo]

I would hammer at e-1at any point to grunted my block cause I dont want scum demons hammering.

So let's discuss who I should block first.

i still dont feel comfortable with u hammering

I WANT A HUMAN TO HAMMER PLS

[GrandpaMo]

actually you can throw out Kawaii for Grandpa them wanting a human to hammer is TERRIBLE

its not bad considering all the demons rn are like either lying or not 100 percent conf.

everyone trusts gif so if we let gif hammer then that gets us no worry about hebich lying scum or any demon to lie and fuck town up with extra blood

[GrandpaMo]

Also we need to wait until Kawaii to sort things out

Kawaii needed extra blood from hammer to jail Fire N3. That means Kawaii jailkept somebody N2. That can be a very important info.

I jailed Enchant N2
pedit: Ty Klick
I need to hammer to jail someone again

top ten best anime plottwists of all time.

[GrandpaMo]

Hebi claimed to target self, Fire, and Mo and say that they can’t be targeted nor make action
PB tracked Klick see Klick visited everyone except Fire and Mo.

It is definitely confirmed.

wait question does commute take place before hebis action on me?

[GrandpaMo]

I think it's much safer to have her not use her ability tonight.

yes finally some sense. THANK U FL. ifeel i have been ignored and now people just wanna start agreeing wit me now all of a sudden first pinkball with the no elim on day 1 then now this???


I SEE OUR TOWN VICTORY!!!!

[GrandpaMo]

Hebi claimed to target self, Fire, and Mo and say that they can’t be targeted nor make action
PB tracked Klick see Klick visited everyone except Fire and Mo.

It is definitely confirmed.

I'm still incredibly frustrated by this cause this should not be possible.

i commuted. does ur action take place before that? becuase if so, that chnages stuff.

pedit: ok so that means hebi could just be more lying ( 1 person instead of 2) , and klick is more truthful .

[GrandpaMo]

let's take out ranger. im done with this day phase.

if ranger is town, we lose, because it means GIF probs scum with that if ranger is town fl scum nonsense

we are finally on the same wave lenght

VOTE: Ranger

[GrandpaMo]

Why do we want to flip ranger so bad outside of the upgrade. Way too much of us are on board here.

no i think town is split lol idk if the scumteam is letting moving this away? or if the town is like spit? idfk anymore i just want info.

my idea was the best idea but no one wants to listen to me because we are all fucking divided

[GrandpaMo]

Why do we want to flip ranger so bad outside of the upgrade. Way too much of us are on board here.

I don't understand why you don't want to flip ranger tbh

Because their posts have been good abd there's a potential for commuter or redirected nonsense

its funny how u continue to contribute after self defeated atitude and self voting

[GrandpaMo]

Can you come up with a scenario where poison got to furtive that does not include your power?
Because I've been thinking about this for very long time and I'm coming up blank.

Like help me out here. This is a very important piece of puzzle that people are keep overlooking and it's irritating the shit out of me.

I

WANT

THIS

SOLVED

BEFORE

TODAY

ENDS

If today ends with no input on this from everyone whatsoever I'm targeting Enchant for the rest of the game.

poisoner could be third party

[GrandpaMo]

poisoner could be third party

If by third party you mean Enchant, they were jailkept by Kawaii N2.
No demons poisoned furtive. Human poisoned furtive. How did furtive get poisoned?

lol why r u believing kawaii?

kawaii+enchant could be scum together, or third party is just FL with poisoner ability

[GrandpaMo]

VOTE: Hebichan

[GrandpaMo]

hebi you’re not doing anything good for your team, town or scum

Pink, I really don't want to hear it regardless of your alignment.

I get I'm bad, I took a 4 year break from this site cause in bad. But you're scum

flailing scum ngl

[GrandpaMo]

hebi you’re not doing anything good for your team, town or scum

Pink, I really don't want to hear it regardless of your alignment.

I get I'm bad, I took a 4 year break from this site cause in bad. But you're scum

flailing scum ngl

Dont care

so u admit ur scum?

[GrandpaMo]

Kawaii

Kawaii is claimed demon, unless you're suggesting that Kawaii is lying about being demon after this whole shenanigan with decreased blood.

Bingo

I mean GiF… it’s mafia… someone is lying

thats what i keep telling gif. gif u keep assuming eveyrone is truthtelling their role

[GrandpaMo]

hebi you’re not doing anything good for your team, town or scum

Pink, I really don't want to hear it regardless of your alignment.

I get I'm bad, I took a 4 year break from this site cause in bad. But you're scum

flailing scum ngl

Dont care

so u admit ur scum?

If I say yes and I flip town. Will you quick vote Pink tomorrow?

what?

[GrandpaMo]

hebich, some advice. if u are town -- you probably could be being used by pinkball. pinkball has every right to push you or like say the things they are saying because they are scum. they want to push a certain adgenda on u. if u think they are scum, it should reasonable they are doing this because in scum's eyes u are probably the strongest role or the biggest threat, and want to set up a day lim on u.

but from town eyes, you are the strongest scumrole too if you are truth telling and therefore if you are scum, then its reasonable for you to be questioned like this

so its like a dilemma, you just have to defend yourself from why you are town . we cant really go based on mechanics no more because mech is just fucked this game.

[GrandpaMo]

GiF sorry I don’t mean to ignore you but I don’t understand what you want

How did furtive get poisoned N2 and not via blood art?

Scumteam has a human poisoner? I thought that was cleared

Ok then who is this human poisoner?

Out of all the claimed human:

FL is Nexus
I'm doctor
You're tracker
Enchant is whatever hybrid but was jailkept by Kawaii so excluded
Ranger is confirmed redirector so not poisoner

Who's the human poisoner? Because I don't see any.

Spicy theory:
Kawaii redirected or lied
Enchant still poisoner

this is not spicy at all what. we already been knew this

[GrandpaMo]

gif u keep assuming eveyrone is truthtelling their role

Why would normal people lie about their roles in role madness? You get found out very quickly if you lie about a role in role madness.

i think people lie to a certain extent. for example, they probably over or less exagerate what their role does or how much blood/stamina they need. i think its a paradox. if people lie, u can get because its role madness. but since its role madness, you wont be caught because of the choas that is happening.

mafia has every incentive to lie about blood because if they only need 2 blood, its beneficial for them to lie and say they actually need 5 blood, so they wont be able to use their ability. but in the night -- they would since it was 2 blood.

[GrandpaMo]

hebich, some advice. if u are town -- you probably could be being used by pinkball. pinkball has every right to push you or like say the things they are saying because they are scum. they want to push a certain adgenda on u. if u think they are scum, it should reasonable they are doing this because in scum's eyes u are probably the strongest role or the biggest threat, and want to set up a day lim on u.

but from town eyes, you are the strongest scumrole too if you are truth telling and therefore if you are scum, then its reasonable for you to be questioned like this

so its like a dilemma, you just have to defend yourself from why you are town . we cant really go based on mechanics no more because mech is just fucked this game.

I don't know what tells are though. Everyone from my eyes seems to be posting town.

ye but if u are in a game of mafia where u know there is an x amount of mafia, then you as town are preconditioned to just ultimately find that much mafia. for example, u asy pink ball is one mafia. who is ur other two (if u think there is 3 alive rn)?

once u do that, u will realize alot of associations/reads will fall in place.

[GrandpaMo]

hebich, some advice. if u are town -- you probably could be being used by pinkball. pinkball has every right to push you or like say the things they are saying because they are scum. they want to push a certain adgenda on u. if u think they are scum, it should reasonable they are doing this because in scum's eyes u are probably the strongest role or the biggest threat, and want to set up a day lim on u.

but from town eyes, you are the strongest scumrole too if you are truth telling and therefore if you are scum, then its reasonable for you to be questioned like this

so its like a dilemma, you just have to defend yourself from why you are town . we cant really go based on mechanics no more because mech is just fucked this game.

I don't know what tells are though. Everyone from my eyes seems to be posting town.

ye but if u are in a game of mafia where u know there is an x amount of mafia, then you as town are preconditioned to just ultimately find that much mafia. for example, u asy pink ball is one mafia. who is ur other two (if u think there is 3 alive rn)?

once u do that, u will realize alot of associations/reads will fall in place.

I've played tons of games but I've never gotten this click feeling before.

what feeling? talk to me. i wanna understand u better

[GrandpaMo]

hebich, some advice. if u are town -- you probably could be being used by pinkball. pinkball has every right to push you or like say the things they are saying because they are scum. they want to push a certain adgenda on u. if u think they are scum, it should reasonable they are doing this because in scum's eyes u are probably the strongest role or the biggest threat, and want to set up a day lim on u.

but from town eyes, you are the strongest scumrole too if you are truth telling and therefore if you are scum, then its reasonable for you to be questioned like this

so its like a dilemma, you just have to defend yourself from why you are town . we cant really go based on mechanics no more because mech is just fucked this game.

I don't know what tells are though. Everyone from my eyes seems to be posting town.

ye but if u are in a game of mafia where u know there is an x amount of mafia, then you as town are preconditioned to just ultimately find that much mafia. for example, u asy pink ball is one mafia. who is ur other two (if u think there is 3 alive rn)?

once u do that, u will realize alot of associations/reads will fall in place.

I've played tons of games but I've never gotten this click feeling before.

what feeling? talk to me. i wanna understand u better

Like, I never was able to see associastions or what people say is scummy or townships. I've tried I just don't get any of it.

start by the readlist and go one by one on how u think about each player. start individually -- start fresh.

Klickwork
GrandpaMo
KawaiiKame
Pink Ball
hebichan
Firebringer
Enchant
GuyInFreezer
Ranger
Flavor Leaf


create a readlist. explain how u feel about each player. then once u do that. go back and rank them, ur bottom three/four should be in the pool of how u feel about who is scum. try that

[GrandpaMo]

UNVOTE: Ranger

Before day ends, if we go Ranger, I need it to be established why GIF's logic is contradicting and not factual.

so everyone has a ego and wants to prove to eveyrone why they are town?

ok

[GrandpaMo]

Wotcha folks.

On a skim through I feel like hebichan's "miller" musing about firebringer could possibly be S-S when combined with firebringer's "kinda like PGO" attempt to deter investigatives targetting them.

I do see why Ice's backing down in 87 looks suspicious but that's just relative to the other pure RVS stuff going on. I don't think scum would really be that jumpy that early.

Drew and GuyInFreezer both look towny to me. Initial gut feel is Ranger is town too.

VOTE: FireBringer

I don't like this post tbh. Anyone else feel like that?

I dunno if it's actually bad or not.

Idk feels like an imaginality post to me
If I was in game solving mode I’d have questions on what makes it really look like S and S between us but I’m not that curious right now

Nothing scummy about aging, natural process

About how I'm playing thanks

the way you progress in game makes it look like ur appeasing or following crowd on purpose.

I feel Black is actually off this game.
Would be more interested in seeing more posts from her

ngl i feel pretty indifferent to the leading wagon though.
not arguing against it but just feels pretty milquotoast to me.

I want something spicy
VOTE: Black
Come in here and call me scum. Also chat with me.

that did feel like a townie response tho hebi. Good work

{IceDragon70}
{GuyInFreezer, Firebringer}
{furtiveglance}
{Enchant}
{Pink Ball, Doctor Drew, KawaiiKame}
{imaginality, Klickwork, GrandpaMo}
{Kokichi Oma}
{hebichan}
{Flavor Leaf}
{BlueSnakelet, Black}

p14
(ngl I actually feel I have some players too high rn since aside from Blue/Black none of the southern reads are scum to me rn.

Firebringer:

Now would actually be a time to unironically dismantle my readslist and point out the town names too low and the scum names too high.)

i don't have that many strong disagreements here. Mostly cause my reads are like almost all nullish.

I agree GIF is pretty obvtown here. I think Grandpamo is too
Everything else i don't feel like arguing cause i just don't feel strong about.
If i had energy and wanted to argue i would say bluesnake and Ice should nowhere be top or bottom as I don't feel strongly in anyway on either of them but that is me arguing for a null which doesn't give me a good reason to actually argue with ur reads.

I am also thinking i will sort icedragon once i sort u. And I don't like u continuing to push me up the reads lists.

also hebichan is weak town for me.
imaginality is inching towards scummy for how he is approaching his push on me.

VOTE: Imaginality
I will start spicying up this game.
Hey imaginality lets have a chat

i think u should townread hebi.
i mean i have a weak townread on her

Nothing scummy about aging, natural process

About how I'm playing thanks

the way you progress in game makes it look like ur appeasing or following crowd on purpose.

I'm following crowd cause I don't have any strong reads and I thought being on a wagon and applying pressure might help.

Anyhow I'm gonna overcompensate your advice and stick on blue for now.

VOTE: black

I feel like the slot is too quiet and maybe lurking.

P -edit- I was posting this before you said anything fb lol

doesn't feel like she is caring how she looks to me?

also

Is Hebichan someone who normally cares about how they look as a wolf?

im not an expert with hebi scum but i think all scum care who aren't experienced wolves care about their appearance. I mean....hebi doesn't strike me as a very experienced scum player

Hebi strikes me as someone who doesn't have their heart in the game when they play wolf

so u agree with me then

I think PB is right that this will bring a lot of info
VOTE: BlueSnek
if not scum i got words for Ali though.

Pb claiming to track me is a wolf claim btw

Thoughts on Pink Ball/Grandpa/Ranger team?

well pinkie or klick but yeah this is where i am at

i want to back to reads based play
VOTE: Ranger

It targets someone else randomly, so I wouldn't be in the pool of possible redirects back.

so PB is lying?

Starting a fresh read list on grandpas suggestions with FB.

90% of FBs posts are like....one sentence no explanations given coasting, FB has been on every bad wagon, and no good wagon despite calling drew scum at one point.

FB was jailed when there was no night kill.

FB also pointed out that PB has claims that contradict flavor, which means PB is caught twice here, but never pushed this.

I Feel like FBs shitty posting style is sort of his meta based on how other people are treating the slot.

If we think that poisoner is scum aligned, this might be the slot considering both kawaii and myself were going to jail the slot. If kawaii is scum with FB my previous theory could hold that they coordinated and were going to have FB fire the shot then claim to be jailed.

But also FB has been throwing Kawaii under the bus today so it would be strange. Plus Kawaii siteflaked and therefore might not have submitted an action at all last night.

I don't think that FB is confirmed scum based on any of this, but there are scenarios where he could be.

good now do the same on ranger, pink, klick, and FL. mainly ranger. bcause thats the one who u are opposing.

try that.

[GrandpaMo]

here we go now

gif just started a gif vs flavor leaf war

and idk if this scumotivated.

like it was already enough from klick vs pb

but now ranger vs hebichan, klick vs pb, grandpa vs whoever tf, now gif vs fl??? what else enchant vs kawaii????? [that would insane ngl]

[GrandpaMo]

@mod i thought i was voting ranger

[GrandpaMo]

VOTE: Ranger

im taking ur advice dude. @FL

[GrandpaMo]

Anyway I'm conceding the whole shenanigan about FL redirecting poison.
I got a confirmation that if ID's poison is redirected by human nexus it would count as blood art.

[GrandpaMo]

we keep going back in circles. can we just stop. my head hurts

[GrandpaMo]

I feel like the elim today should always just be either Furtive or BlueSnek tbh

I’m with it. Blue might be a better elim since if Furtive ends up being town, Blue’s dead anyways, which makes a few rough days if Blue is also town.

I don’t care which. I lean scum on Furtive more than Blue, but can’t say I’m overly confident on either of those

blue

Scum are going to start having to deal with Klick-Fire-Flavor trio sooner rather than later.

If one of them are scum, I’d eventually start to realize it as the game went on, and I’m sure they have precautions with me, but we catch a scum or 2, I’m not worried we can’t successfully town block.

Your confidence seems weird here

Not gonna lie, I’m a pretty confident guy.

I’m confident that if I’m wrong on one of Klick/Firebringer, they know they’ll have to take me out eventually too, and vice versa.

I don’t mind actively tying myself to them because I’m generally on board with what they’re saying lately, and if they’re scum, I’ll start to feel the buoy we’ve set sink as time goes on.

And if we are all town, scum are going to have to intervene.

I'm down for an IceDragon claim, tbh

Can everyone just post their no.1 scumread at this time, excepting Drew and Klickwork if possible

Pink Ball

Not interested in going after Klick here in the slightest.

I'd lean over DD there, and even then, I'm leaning it to be T/T.

FL if Drew is honest about his role, why did he visit ranger?

why would he say that as scum?

could be scum mess up, but like it requires him to make a weird choice either way. i almost see it like a bigger blunder if he is scum.

if the game was that easy, i don't know why u/me and ali are all alive still.
i mean i guess ali alive because frame but still....

i think scum could have killed Ice because they thought maybe Alisae was a 3rd party or Ice got a false guilty with the potential to get guilties other wise, and killed Ice could have framed a TownKlick.

I don't necessarily agree that it's an easy solve. We earned some of these town reads if they are real.

Kokichi was a good no-info kill Night 1 since we were on the wrong track from a hard push on Imaginality.

icetargeted furitive

ice fake guilty klick yesterday

And look at that misrep by saying I did nothing day 1. I actively said the opposite but in a way where people could think I was doing nothing.

Grandpa grasping at straws hard right now.

I might not be 100% correct on scum team, but it's clear to me I've caught some in my net on entirely the reaction I've gotten since.

Hebichan is a possible bus on Drew who they think could be going down imo.

i also told u that i agreed with ur gif read and i like ur hebichan read too

I understand. But you gotta see from my pov why I wouldn't necessarily like that. I don't 100% expect to be right, and if anything, I expect to be wrong. So it feels like conditioning when you do something like that. Like hmm, is Grandpa scum trying to reward me for a wrong read, throw me off to distance, stuff like that.

It's juicy stuff to analyze as the game goes on, though, so keep it going. It will help you get town read in the long run, but it's not town indicatve atm. it could be, though, later

Oh, i keep forgetting the tracker thing with Drew.


Hebi looks like a low momentum shifting bus on Drew if I'm being perfectly honest.

Drew/Furtive/Gif makes so much sense right now.

Doctor Drew (7)[Elimination]: Ranger, Flavor Leaf, hebichan, Klickwork, Enchant, Pink Ball, GrandpaMo
Klickwork (1):

Doctor Drew

Not Voting (4):

furtiveglance

, Firebringer, GuyInFreezer, KawaiiKame

and yet, 2 scum on the wagon is confusing for people.

ha

never said it was confusing

i rather highlight flavor leaf

, hebichan, klick and enchant those 4. and two of them are scum

this is what I mean by conditioning.


First of all, the highlight is coming from my POV, and now they're trying to argue that my thing would have been better with me in it.

Go check the read he had on me end of day yesterday. That does not fit.

When you treat them townie, they're happy with you, when you treat them scummy, they take an L.

It's different than a normal town reaction, it's almost immediate change, like a pet spray bottle. This is how I caught Catboi last year to a smaller scale.

Look at Grandpa's post this page. He's doing scum damage control, and he was trying to control this game and get us set on where we ended at the end of the day reads wise to power through a day and consider this 'auto'.

Okay, my big reason for not trusting Pink Ball here:

I used my Magical Fog last night. Pink couldn't have seen Klickwork targeting me.

Ranger and Grandpa are also both looking town to me on a posts level.

UNVOTE: Ranger

GIF/Pink I can't see as scum right now.

Enchant, Kawaii slot, Klick is probably just the scum team.

Firebringer I'm 50/50.

thios progression on grandpa seems weird to me. Why did you move grandpa from your biggest scumread to basically confirmed town? There's no real mechanical reason. I don't see much of a post change in the meantime..

But what's interesting to me here is FL has caught pink in a lie as well. Once time is weird, two times is scum, no?

FL, you and I both saw PB lie so why can't you see them as sum in your later read list?

i have to assume we share an alignment here based off us both having a similar thing happen with PB claiming tracking.
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hebichan, the amount of times flavor leaf has changed their reads is crazy.

[GrandpaMo]

i fuckedup thespoiler

[GrandpaMo]

we keep going back in circles. can we just stop. my head hurts

Look at my night action posts, and once you get it get it, we can stop.

I think it's super important, and I understand it's hard to get.

isnt a scum kill now more beneficial? wouldnt it be beneficial to see scum kill any of us here? if scum kills anyone here, scum is bound to be found

[GrandpaMo]

GiF on PB
Grandpa on GiF
PB on GiF
Firebringer Nukes Enchant
Kawaii on Me

Any other actions or can we end the day

u forogt hebichs action

[GrandpaMo]

oh yea forogto they need blood for htat

[GrandpaMo]

@Hebichan - I have kind of a soul read on you and Grandpa. Grandpa and I have been through the thick of it.

oh we sure damn have . ima tell u rn once game is over, i need ur help haha

[GrandpaMo]

yo FL where at with ur solve atm
cause i feel if Grandpa is town here i think im being pocketed somewhere

pocketied? boy ur like a background read, nobody wanna pocket u if they were scum. i have not even interacted with u that much

[GrandpaMo]

PB can just track GiF

I'm good with this.

GIF should always be targeting PB tonight too with a doctor.

Gif is town, I’m not investigating them. I won’t get leashed with an investigative role in a role madness game

who is the poisoner

I DONT GIVE A FLYING FUUUUUUUUUCK

yo relax

[GrandpaMo]

Like, mechanically...if what I said before was a town slip, Ranger not understanding how the role priority worked was also a townslip. They've been reading pages and commenting on reads pretty often and their reads more importantly have been freaking awful.

I haven't seen a justified reason to flip this slot other than GIF claiming a soft guilty there. I don't think this is a super towny slot but I think the haste to flip it has been super weird.

Ranger has barely posted at all, or interacted with anyone. Maybe they're pocketing me with the defense of me...but why sheep me when Iam being sused by everyone. I still don't hate flipping ranger but it's not as bad as people seem to be saying here.

ngl this looks like u scumread ranger but dont want to because of a discrpency on pb

[GrandpaMo]

Like, mechanically...if what I said before was a town slip, Ranger not understanding how the role priority worked was also a townslip. They've been reading pages and commenting on reads pretty often and their reads more importantly have been freaking awful.

I haven't seen a justified reason to flip this slot other than GIF claiming a soft guilty there. I don't think this is a super towny slot but I think the haste to flip it has been super weird.

Ranger has barely posted at all, or interacted with anyone. Maybe they're pocketing me with the defense of me...but why sheep me when Iam being sused by everyone. I still don't hate flipping ranger but it's not as bad as people seem to be saying here.

ngl this looks like u scumread ranger but dont want to because of a discrpency on pb

You aren't wrong. Again, I said it before, I am more scared of PB getting towncred for this than anything else right now....and now that i reread and saw the FL PB stuff I'm actually heavier on that.

Can you give me a competing theory on PB being town here?

we dont think pb is town thats the problem hebich haha

we just arent 100 percent sure on either klick or pb. no one is. pb and klick will never get towncred dw about that. they will be more suspectible people with a more likely scum depending on the flip of ranger. depedning on rangers flip, it could help your case.we are more likely to secure scum in ranger because of past events that happened before all this mech shit. if it flips scum, then guess what u are more likely to be town, and we get PB out and boom we win. i think we win thru this route if we dont do a NC.

[GrandpaMo]

WE’RE GETTING ACTUAL GAME RELEVANT INFORMATION AND YOU WANT TO END IT????

we arent getting nothing tbh. its been going in circles. kawaii comes in then flakes again. ranger comes in adds no relavent info then leaves. gif makes a theory , then retracts. FL changes reads every like 5 pages, PB u keep shouting, 2 people wanna get the day over with, hebich has confirmation bias, me? im questioning everyone.

so yea we literally dont have anything. we been stuck on this for past 3 days.

[GrandpaMo]

Like, mechanically...if what I said before was a town slip, Ranger not understanding how the role priority worked was also a townslip. They've been reading pages and commenting on reads pretty often and their reads more importantly have been freaking awful.

I haven't seen a justified reason to flip this slot other than GIF claiming a soft guilty there. I don't think this is a super towny slot but I think the haste to flip it has been super weird.

Ranger has barely posted at all, or interacted with anyone. Maybe they're pocketing me with the defense of me...but why sheep me when Iam being sused by everyone. I still don't hate flipping ranger but it's not as bad as people seem to be saying here.

ngl this looks like u scumread ranger but dont want to because of a discrpency on pb

You aren't wrong. Again, I said it before, I am more scared of PB getting towncred for this than anything else right now....and now that i reread and saw the FL PB stuff I'm actually heavier on that.

Can you give me a competing theory on PB being town here?

we dont think pb is town thats the problem hebich haha

we just arent 100 percent sure on either klick or pb. no one is. pb and klick will never get towncred dw about that. they will be more suspectible people with a more likely scum depending on the flip of ranger. depedning on rangers flip, it could help your case.we are more likely to secure scum in ranger because of past events that happened before all this mech shit. if it flips scum, then guess what u are more likely to be town, and we get PB out and boom we win. i think we win thru this route if we dont do a NC.

SO then what's the deal with you not wanting me to hammer?? That's the thing that really set me off on my last tangent.

thats because u are still in towns perspective also not confirmed town . see thats the dilemma here. do we wanna trust u so u can iso 3 people and be towns best hero? or do we wanna risk that and have u control 3 people to win wiht scum. ur role, if scum, literally is a wincondition, ofc people are gonna be weary about having u as hammer. u have to understand both perspectives -- and so therefore to elimante any bias -- thats why we have someone who is a human, so neither any of the demon people get blood to cause choas already. its like the people who already have it, fine. they can claim it the next day, but if we fuel u, then it could be even worse.

this is how me and the rest of town see it. do u understand?

[GrandpaMo]

FL changes reads every like 5 pages

this is a benefit as the game goes on. i generally win the games this happens in because it means I'm going over every single possibility simultaneously in my head, and i get to come back and see where im feeling.

hopefully. i have enjoyed u as a player thus far. if u are scum ggs

[GrandpaMo]

WE’RE GETTING ACTUAL GAME RELEVANT INFORMATION AND YOU WANT TO END IT????

we arent getting nothing tbh. its been going in circles. kawaii comes in then flakes again. ranger comes in adds no relavent info then leaves. gif makes a theory , then retracts. FL changes reads every like 5 pages, PB u keep shouting, 2 people wanna get the day over with, hebich has confirmation bias, me? im questioning everyone.

so yea we literally dont have anything. we been stuck on this for past 3 days.

RANGER RANGER RANGER RANGER RANGER RANGER

how is ranger relevant info what

[GrandpaMo]

Like, mechanically...if what I said before was a town slip, Ranger not understanding how the role priority worked was also a townslip. They've been reading pages and commenting on reads pretty often and their reads more importantly have been freaking awful.

I haven't seen a justified reason to flip this slot other than GIF claiming a soft guilty there. I don't think this is a super towny slot but I think the haste to flip it has been super weird.

Ranger has barely posted at all, or interacted with anyone. Maybe they're pocketing me with the defense of me...but why sheep me when Iam being sused by everyone. I still don't hate flipping ranger but it's not as bad as people seem to be saying here.

ngl this looks like u scumread ranger but dont want to because of a discrpency on pb

You aren't wrong. Again, I said it before, I am more scared of PB getting towncred for this than anything else right now....and now that i reread and saw the FL PB stuff I'm actually heavier on that.

Can you give me a competing theory on PB being town here?

we dont think pb is town thats the problem hebich haha

we just arent 100 percent sure on either klick or pb. no one is. pb and klick will never get towncred dw about that. they will be more suspectible people with a more likely scum depending on the flip of ranger. depedning on rangers flip, it could help your case.we are more likely to secure scum in ranger because of past events that happened before all this mech shit. if it flips scum, then guess what u are more likely to be town, and we get PB out and boom we win. i think we win thru this route if we dont do a NC.

I know you think I'm scum but humor me for a moment and see it from my perspective. IS there literally any other world? No one has given me a plausible world where PB and I are the same alignment. That is all I want.

If I can't see it maybe someone can help me see it.

let me break it down more for u. i dont think u are scum nor town imo . i am just as confused as you are hebichan.

there is so many worlds right now.

there is a world where PB, FL, and GIF are all together as a team. [ this is stacked btw]
there is a world where FL, Enchant, Grandpa are all together as a team.

I don't think its helpful in listing out of all the worlds. Right now, nothing is confirmed to NO one. Till we get a certain missing piece filled, then we can start slowly putting pieces together. Players like GIF are trying to do it early but are to no success because guess what! The missing piece is still missing. That piece we get from a Day Condemn or a Night Kill -- Again, this is why I wanted to NC because scum's Night Kill can be really beneficial for us to really process why Mafia killed said person, it will confirm one person as town.

So, honestly -- Youre best bet is to follow through from shit that is happening from before and not to brainwashed by this propaganda bullshit that BOTH town and mafia is pulling.

[GrandpaMo]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Ranger

[GrandpaMo]

I don't think FL and PB and GIF are a team.

It was just a hypothetical just to prove a point.

Grandson, you're doing a good job.

[GrandpaMo]

Grandpa you’re doing jackshit and hiding behind coaching hebi

You're being very hostile and I am starting to dislike your demeanor this game. I am just tired of this day. I already have said I am confused by the game state. I already explained 5 times what I want to do, no one listens to me.


Once this game ends, I want an apology from everyone because they will see I am right.

[GrandpaMo]

I’m about to fan FL’s paranoia and crank it up to eleven.

Watch this.

How come everyone listens to you, but not me?

[GrandpaMo]

I’m not being hostile, I’m trying to get a conversation going with people who are actively solving the game and you’re just making noise

??? That was a very unncessary comment. I was having a conversation with hebichan. No need for you to act like me and hebichan don't matter.

It is the same for you and FL just like how both you are having a convo. Me and Hebichan are on the actual game state right now and how Hebichan's feel.


This is hypocrisy.

[GrandpaMo]

I’m not being hostile, I’m trying to get a conversation going with people who are actively solving the game and you’re just making noise

??? That was a very unncessary comment. I was having a conversation with hebichan. No need for you to act like me and hebichan don't matter.

It is the same for you and FL just like how both you are having a convo. Me and Hebichan are on the actual game state right now and how Hebichan's feel.


This is hypocrisy.

You’re either town hyping scum, or scum hyping scum. You decide

Bro what. Half of your posts are literally my thoughts but in a more comprehendible way. For example, Post 3650, literally implying that GIF keeps going with their theories and shit. Oh, I wonder where I heard that from.

[GrandpaMo]

By the way if it wasn’t clear, hebi is still scum since they claimed self targeting and that their power would act before anyone else’s so an interference makes no sense.

Both hebi and Grandpa having the same discard? That’s fucking IMPOSSIBLE and my theory is that that’s a scum slip between the two. One of them claimed the other one’s discard by accident

Okay so this assumes that I am scum with hebi. Yes, I totally bus my teammates twice in a row.

Don't forget I claimed my flavor first.

Make some sense dude.

[GrandpaMo]

By the way if it wasn’t clear, hebi is still scum since they claimed self targeting and that their power would act before anyone else’s so an interference makes no sense.

Both hebi and Grandpa having the same discard? That’s fucking IMPOSSIBLE and my theory is that that’s a scum slip between the two. One of them claimed the other one’s discard by accident

Your progression with me makes no sense here. I am harder confirmed scum in your eryes than ranger is. You refused my 1 v 1 claiming that klick was your target now you're pushing ranger super hard.

And now you're pushing grandpa.

I like this post. I am starting to like you more and more hebichan.

[GrandpaMo]

And I’m done, both noisy players whining because I’m telling them to stop being noisy saying “waaah you’re being a meanie”. Both scum, I’m telling you

This looks bad for you fwiw.

[GrandpaMo]

So you think me, hebichan, and firebringer is all scum?


I am actually laughing out loud right now, yk the acronym, LOL.

[GrandpaMo]

Ok ok I’ll take a deep breath

You know what's funny? You and Hebichan are very similar.

[GrandpaMo]

I think this is why this is best....


VOTE: No one:

[GrandpaMo]

I think I will it call a goodnight. This has been a shit show.

[GrandpaMo]

1,728 posts.

Oh wait, sorry wrong PT!

[GrandpaMo]

VOTE: Ranger

Fuck it.

VOTE: Ranger.

[GrandpaMo]

Grandpa, sorry for the hostility, it’s been nice playing with you

It's okay. I am sorry too. This game I been insane--overly inmature I feel like. I really enjoy you too

Hopefully I will do better when I wake up.

[GrandpaMo]

Grandpa, sorry for the hostility, it’s been nice playing with you

It's okay. I am sorry too. This game I been insane--overly inmature I feel like. I really enjoy you too

Hopefully I will do better when I wake up.

I recommend you unvote still. Idk the vote count.

nah idgaf. im tired of this waiting game around. either that or ur scum dude.

i want ranger dead. enough of this soft pushing bs.

i need to rlly gts now. just dont let any demon hammer

[GrandpaMo]

I feel like we all learned something today, but I can not for the life of me figure out what.

haha i like this. like we all just collecetivly idk -- its feels like a therapy session. idk what it is but i am enjoying this couple last of posts

[GrandpaMo]

please don't vote btw lets drag on the day phase long enough so that by the end of it no one wants to play mafia
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I want full 14 days for my own amusement you and Mo robbed me off of in first two days

Please yellow this post

[GrandpaMo]

I feel like we all learned something today, but I can not for the life of me figure out what.

you should vote ranger

aren;t you worried about hammer in the night?

bruh idgaf who hammers why are yall so worried xDDD

what is scum gonna do kill us??? like we just dont want human to hammer also dont forget different timezones

[GrandpaMo]

demon*^

[GrandpaMo]

it feels like throwing though still

hebichan, i am a very very expierenced mafia player with the highest of all time stats. im a profeissional expert. people out here on the mafiascum streets, call me the slump god. do yk what that is? it is named after slumboi. slumboi was vicious of them all. they did not CARE one bit.

the slump god will take it all to the night and do everything it takes. they HAVE to be a town player and the bs they spew is just merely BS. WHY do u think i have been putting on this persona? Was it for me? HELL NO. It was for you all's entertainment.

WELCOME to the SLUMP SHOW

so i am letting you know that u should just trust me with ur word.

Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
and A HAMMER IS WAITING TO INSUE!!!!!!

[GrandpaMo]

I feel like we all learned something today, but I can not for the life of me figure out what.

you should vote ranger

aren;t you worried about hammer in the night?

Oh I’m hammering the moment E-1 happens

YESS FINALLY TOWN IS LISTENING TO MEEE YESSS. TOWN WE ARE GOIN TO WIn


SLUMP GOD FOR THE VICTORYRYRYRYRR

[GrandpaMo]

it feels like throwing though still

hebichan, i am a very very expierenced mafia player with the highest of all time stats. im a profeissional expert. people out here on the mafiascum streets, call me the slump god. do yk what that is? it is named after slumboi. slumboi was vicious of them all. they did not CARE one bit.

the slump god will take it all to the night and do everything it takes. they HAVE to be a town player and the bs they spew is just merely BS. WHY do u think i have been putting on this persona? Was it for me? HELL NO. It was for you all's entertainment.

WELCOME to the SLUMP SHOW

so i am letting you know that u should just trust me with ur word.

Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
and A HAMMER IS WAITING TO INSUE!!!!!!

[GrandpaMo]

HAHAH IM SURVIVOR I WIN

[GrandpaMo]

VOTE: Hebican

[GrandpaMo]

Hebichan is confirmed scum I am 98% sure. I just need @GIF's confirmation.

[GrandpaMo]

im gonna look at flavor iso.
This game is pissing me off. I can't believe i was wrong on ranger

You're probably scum too ngl.

[GrandpaMo]

Need a good case on why i should vote hebi. If this is role shenanigans im ignoring it.

Flavor leaf was the death. The only person I see that would kill Flavor Leaf in this scenario is really enchant or hebichan.

Especially with our interaction yesterday, Hebichan's iso on Flavor Leaf was just... Idk -- it seemed ingeninue. I didn't want to say anything because I was actually going to ask Flavor Leaf today if I was alive to see what they thought, but they're dead. Read post 3522, 3566, 3580

They seem like they really just want to take credit for the no death happening yesterday. Look at post 3618. They keep referencing this as they want to earn town credit for it.

Thinking it about it more, there is a possibility that Hebichan's role is more third party suited especially of how they are playing. But I don't know -- Enchant is probably just third party here for the weird double claim they made.

Also, Hebichan last couple of posts all seem fabricated too me. Questioning "is GIF scum?" had no relevance in that context.

Hebichan's votes also have been bad this entire game. Look at 125. This is probably openwolfing with firebringer here. They defend in a weird way in post 209, trying to frame it in a way where it's not a straight up defense by asking a rhetorical question that they never follow up with.

The vote in 259 is the main one I am talking about. Kawaii says its a coordinated push into Ice by hebi, Blue, and Freezer. Hebichan responds saying it wasn't cooridinated, just only wanted to push a wagon. Then they proceed to say they will push Blue as well.

Then they switch off to Black in 342 saying they have been quiet and maybe lurking. This is actually where I start to sus Hebichan for their quick and frantic votes in post 343 questioning them, they respond with they are town because there role pm was green.

Rolefishing in post 365 trying to clarify Blue's roleclaim.

In post 520, they switch off to another vote to finally vote off Imaginility. They say they want to put their money where their mouth is -- but they have not made one reference to imaginility till now besides responding to ranger in post 406, saying how they put imaginality too high. Other than that, that's it.

All of hebichan's votes has been wrong and franctic all of day one. Now this is not to say we will get wrong votes in day one, but the quick wagonjumping with the different subtle scum motivated posts, makes me certain this slot is scum.

Let us not forget Day 2 where hebichan comes in and says stuff for a couple of posts, votes Drew in post 1879 and then leaves again.

Day 3 is the only time we see activity coming from their role. They claim to have basically iso'd three people, me, themselves, and firebringer. This is a very smart and safe claim to make as scum because not only it puts town in a dilemma but scum!hebichan can porportion the dilemma into two ways: "So either scum attacked one of us, or there is scum in grandpa/Firebringer." Regardless of the outcome, hebichan if they can prove themselves, they can either confirm themselves to look like the nightkill or try to push a mislim on me or firebringer. Plus, they can even use the opportunity to pocket a player if someone comes out to be mechanically confirmed to them. [Retrospectivly, this can be seen in 2236 where hebichan talks about it themselves] I reaction tested hebicahn in post 2195, trying to say that scum tried to kill me. If anyone was reading, they would know there wasn't any discussion about confirmed scum kills, but hebichan wasn't, therefore they assumed I was likely mechanically confirmed because they thought their role blocked the kill. They used this opportunity to warlock. This is evident in post 2228 "So no matter how bad you think our votes are, unless you think grandpa and I are scum together here, the other half of that bad vote list is gonna be a better push.". This is a very popular scum statement. This is continued in posts 2256, 2262, 2263 [here they are saying it leaves them unlikely to be scum, again trying to get towncredit for the claim.], 2295, 2314, . Then after confronted, they stop with the warlocking.

Also the interaction between Hebichan and Pinkball makes me certain there is one scum between them. [I can go into detail about this, but this post is already getting too long and I don't usually posts wallposts anymore, so I am very passionate about this read. Please and thank you.] I am just pretty sure it is hebichan here. Ranger was right on how they are not truthful. Every dead player so far who has flipped town, all called out Hebichan as scum. Literally. So, I just want to respect my fellow village and vote this scum out!

TLDR; Hebichan is so scum if you just take a minute to read their scumotivated iso.

[GrandpaMo]

I redirected GrandPaMo on Flavor Leaf

This is bullshit because I didn't get any result -- Therefore, I assumed that I protected GIF, who claimed to be human --

That's why I didn't say anything.

Enchant is probably still third party. There is a chance that GIF could have been saved and and enchant's claim sets it up to perfectly frame me to kill Flavor Leaf, if enchant is SK.

Something telling me that Enchant is probably not mafia. I don't know.

[GrandpaMo]

Listen maybe Kawaii jailkeept me and it was accident and my action didn't really matter.
Maybe Kawaii claims jailkeeping on someone which proves/unproves something.

Stay calm, chill and wait for result. We achive nothing with rush or panic.

Yea, we have to see this!

[GrandpaMo]

UNVOTE: pink

Grandoa slipping here makes sense too. I can wait.

Look at this scumpost. Like really? Are you trying to hope that I slipped or something so that you could frame me? "I can wait" Okay scum.

[GrandpaMo]

Maybe FL did activate his power and you got redirected to someone else? And that’s why the nightkill wasn’t redirected?

Not possible. FL could't had possible enough blood to activate it.

I am pretty sure he had.

[GrandpaMo]

Maybe FL did activate his power and you got redirected to someone else? And that’s why the nightkill wasn’t redirected?

It could also be with Jailkeeper too.

Also what did you during the night? What's your track?

[GrandpaMo]

Maybe FL did activate his power and you got redirected to someone else? And that’s why the nightkill wasn’t redirected?

Not possible. FL could't had possible enough blood to activate it.

I am pretty sure he had.

Because you are bad at math

N3 used Fog. 0 blood.
D4 one death. 1 Blood.
N4: He has one blood. Can't use anything.


Flavor Leaf has no reason to accuse Pink of lying if he bluffed about usage N3 so no he can't.

They only need 4 blood.

Day 1 - 1 Blood
Night 1 - 3 blood
Day 2 - 4 blood
Night 2 - 5 blood
Day 3 - 6 blood
Night 3 - Used, now they have 2 blood, add 1 blood from Drew Death
Day 4 - 4 blood

[GrandpaMo]

Unless he used his other ability, but this is assuming he hasn't.

[GrandpaMo]

Oh, I didn't read that it was a blood demon art. Still don't know the difference till this day.

[GrandpaMo]

Your avatar broke

This is also true, I haven’t been able to see your avatar for a while, Grandpa

For real?

[GrandpaMo]

We agree then that Enchant’s claim and yours of this particular night action aren’t compatible unless someone else intervened

Yea because if I was redirected to FL, I would have gotten a positive or negative result that FL acted during the night, but I didn't.

[GrandpaMo]

Either the claim is BS or something intervened.

[GrandpaMo]

Your avatar broke

This is also true, I haven’t been able to see your avatar for a while, Grandpa

For real?

Yes there's blank with failed to load image

Can u see it now

[GrandpaMo]

Btw, we are always voting between me and Hebichan today.

@Hebichan if you want people to think you're town, I advise you to vote me.

[GrandpaMo]

Here's why I'm not scum.

I tried to derail the ranger votes harder than anyone else yesterday. I argued that voting inside me and Pink was the correct move so we did not go I'm today blind because ranger flipping would put town in a bad position regardless of alignment.

Why are you not after Pink Ball then? This again just seems like another excuse to get town credit. Like dude, give it up already. You are being voted and scum is not pushing to hammer so you are probably scum here.

[GrandpaMo]

Btw, we are always voting between me and Hebichan today.

@Hebichan if you want people to think you're town, I advise you to vote me.

Why are you 1 v 1ing me here?

I can't ve poisoner here and thats the double kill potential in the town.

Why aren't we after GIF after that awful flip?

This contradicts everything you said yesterday.

I think you can still be poisoner.

[GrandpaMo]

Why are you 1 v 1ing me here?

Mind you, if I am scum, then I playing a very dumb game voting you because the easiest push for me is someone like Firebringer or Klick.

But I am voting you because I geninuely think you are scum here and when Pink Ball voted, scum could ahve hammered if we are playing a 3 player game, so its either to let me believe that we are not playing a 3 player game, scum was offline and is in the players other than PinkBall, Enchant, Me, or You, OR you're just scum.

And the most plausible is you being scum because of the shit that happened yesterday.

[GrandpaMo]

From my point of view, you could be scum voting town, Grandpa. So it turned into a 1v1 between Hebi and you after I voted hebi

But why would scum!me ever vote hebichan here lol.

From scum pov, I would always pocket hebichan here to vote you or someone else.

I know it is WIFOM, but it is something to consider, especially with me, Hebichan, and Flavor Leaf's interaction. I advise you to take a look at that yesterday.

[GrandpaMo]

Either scum is twiddling their thumbs and doing nothing or we are just that good.

I think it's both.

I like to think we have won this game.

[GrandpaMo]

Mafia still can't quickhammer 1 vote lol.

We were talking about pink ball's vote on hebichan that made it two people.

[GrandpaMo]

Flavor Leaf is probably right.

2 Mafia and 1 Third Party.

[GrandpaMo]

Mafia still can't quickhammer 1 vote lol.

We were talking about pink ball's vote on hebichan that made it two people.

You are mafia though.

No I am not.

[GrandpaMo]

You literally didn't do anything for town for the past 4 days. Now you want to claim and expect everyone to believe you. Okay buddy.

[GrandpaMo]

Also claim your flavor.

[GrandpaMo]

Enchant has claimed flavor

Doesn't help the fact that they are scum


This is literally the minority faction here

Firebringer, Hebichan, Enchant

One of them could be third party, I do not know but these 3 right here are not town.

And I am putting my 110% trust into this.

I am tired of people's bullshit. I am not scared like any of you.

These 3 are scum.

LITERALLY LOOK AT MY SCUMCASE ON HEBICHAN. FIREBRINGER AND HEBICHAN ARE HARD ALLIGNED.


I want everyone to apologize once this game flips for not listening to me, because I know I am right.

[GrandpaMo]

tbh I really don't think it's farfetched to say that there would be people who want FL shot @ night

Think about it!!! Hebichan is the only one likely to kill Flavor after yesterday!!!!

[GrandpaMo]

Enchant has claimed flavor

He literally been cryptic this whole game, how do you expect me to notice?

[GrandpaMo]

Firebringer would want to keep FL alive

No.

No one is reading firebringer besides me. firebringer is just always a person who is only given one glance and that's it and peopple just forget about him because he hasn't done either.


Literally look at Hebichan and Firebringer's Day 1. They are bad. I can literally deep dive on firebringer as well to show you the lack of contribution and scummy posts made.

[GrandpaMo]

Firebringer doesn't like to night kill the people he wants to fool.

Firebringer has no point in fooling Flavor Leaf because Flavor Leaf I think just townreads him. Like I said firebringer is a slot that is not being looked at properly, that's why they are acting the way they are and GETTING AWAY with it

[GrandpaMo]

I understand Firebringer's game way more than you do.
He plays for fun. Playing wolf isn't fun for him if he can't bring the players he likes playing with to endgame

idc if u understand or not. im stating the obvious

i think if firebringer wants to actually be townread then they need to put in effort. which both enchant and firebringer have not done at all.

how do u expect me to townread them?? im not about to do no meta dive bs because we are on day 5 and if there is something they should do , is actually be proactive. atleast enchant could fakeclaim.

why r u defending them so hard?

pedit: i dont think firebringer is controlling that decision, i think hebichan is. it is way better for scum!hebichan and scum!firebringer to have killed flavor leaf because not only it can make look hebichan look good, but also someone like @enchant could try to gambit a frame on someone else.

[GrandpaMo]

If i am mafia with this exact team why i should kill Flavor Leaf who catched Pink Ball "On lie".

Flavor leaf changed reads like every 10 posts.

He never was 100 percent on that. Stop tryna hang on that.

That's why I said you're more likely to be 3rd party.

[GrandpaMo]

i think the 3p is the poisoner, i think someone else said that today but i really don't think scum go for furtive and kawaii for poison. Doesn't make sense to me.

i said that since fucking yesterday.

[GrandpaMo]

who do u think the mafia team is?

[GrandpaMo]

i need everyone's preempt solves rn

[GrandpaMo]

Grandpa who did you target last night?

I already explained -- that is the reason why I am calling Enchant's claim BS in the first place...

[GrandpaMo]

We agree then that Enchant’s claim and yours of this particular night action aren’t compatible unless someone else intervened

Yea because if I was redirected to FL, I would have gotten a positive or negative result that FL acted during the night, but I didn't.

I redirected GrandPaMo on Flavor Leaf

This is bullshit because I didn't get any result -- Therefore, I assumed that I protected GIF, who claimed to be human --

That's why I didn't say anything.

Enchant is probably still third party. There is a chance that GIF could have been saved and and enchant's claim sets it up to perfectly frame me to kill Flavor Leaf, if enchant is SK.

Something telling me that Enchant is probably not mafia. I don't know.

[GrandpaMo]

But ok you targeted GiF thank you

Yup just like we promised to do.

I believe GIF should have protected me.

[GrandpaMo]

But ok you targeted GiF thank you

Yup just like we promised to do.

I believe GIF should have protected me.

Did you propose this plan ot GIF

Bruh do you all just not read???


See this is exactly what I am talking about. I am tired of going back in circles. I feel like I am the only one as town contributing and it hurts me.

But this shit was discussed many times by other people in the thread in the past day by me, Gif themselves, and a few others.

[GrandpaMo]

Grandpa your rethoric that no one’s listening you is getting really old

It's true.

What else you want me to say, that people are? Because that's not the case.

I am not pushing an adgenda or anything like that.

And I didn't even MENTION that in my last post. All I said that this was already discussed before in the previous day. Why would town!enchant keep questioning stuff that was a big topic yesterday. It was a big topic because we were tryna devise what strategy we were going to go with at night.

I am sorry. I just keep getting frustrated at the silly responses. I do not mean to be hostile but it is slightly getting to me and being annoying / repetitive.

[GrandpaMo]

But ok you targeted GiF thank you

Yup just like we promised to do.

I believe GIF should have protected me.

Did you propose this plan ot GIF

Bruh do you all just not read???


See this is exactly what I am talking about. I am tired of going back in circles. I feel like I am the only one as town contributing and it hurts me.

But this shit was discussed many times by other people in the thread in the past day by me, Gif themselves, and a few others.

But hey you think i am mafia.

Why you so angry about MAFIA asking you something and then rant you are only town here

Because I wasn't JUST talking about you??

[GrandpaMo]

Have more patience ‘cause I’m trying to work with you, that’s what I’m asking.

I’ve put much more effort in this game than I usually do

you're the only one I like and I am pretty sure is 100% town here, I am only listening to you fr.

I will be patient don't worry, I am waiting for kawaii.

[GrandpaMo]

Damn imagine we wait before kawaii replaced and replacement be like:
"Oh no action"

That would be amusing.

Honestly I probably would give up as trying to solve as town lol.

[GrandpaMo]

I really hope Kawaii jailkeept Firebringer like promised.

I think the only way you're town is if GIF is scum


I see the team as GIF, Klick, Pink or Enchant, Firebringer, Hebichan,

The more I am thinking about it -- I see Kawaii as possible third party poisoner.

[GrandpaMo]

KawaiiKame is poisoned. They will die if their poisoner lives in this day phase and the next night phase.

Wait what.

How come I didn't know about this

[GrandpaMo]

The more I am thinking about it -- I see Kawaii as possible third party poisoner.

I know, it's funny looking back at it because I was thinking we were talking about poisoner still being alive because of yesterday.

[GrandpaMo]

Damn imagine we wait before kawaii replaced and replacement be like:
"Oh no action"

That would be amusing.

Honestly I probably would give up as trying to solve as town lol.

Did you just admit....

No I am saying: I would be town giving up to solve. I know what you are tryna say, that's not what I meant

[GrandpaMo]

And then you act like angry because no one reads your posts yet you also don't read my posts where i claimed flavor.

That's not the same thing.

You literally did the same cryptic BS all game where you didn't answer any questions, ignorning people, contributing nothing, trolling, openwolfing.

From my perspective, you look like a bored scum where it is going in your hands.

[GrandpaMo]

Being cooperative/otherwise is not town indicative, i had reasons to act like i did and that's all what's important.

Explain to me then beacuase imo, being cooperative is one of the best town indicators.

[GrandpaMo]

It's not actions which matter: Reasons is.

u still have not explained to me why u werent being cooperative.

[GrandpaMo]

It's not actions which matter: Reasons is.

u still have not explained to me why u werent being cooperative.

I am not really i need to explain you anything.

Redirector is most broken role, obviously i won't claim it willy-nilly.

If you're town, you should know this is anti-town behavior.

If you're scum, you did a great job at coasting.

Redirector isn't broken. Someone already claimed redirector yesterday, don't know why it was hard for you to claim especially considering your role would be more useful in figuring out scum, if you're town that is.

[GrandpaMo]

Grandpa is the poisoner

ngl i didn't even know kawaii was posioned till like midday. ushould have seen my face.

[GrandpaMo]

IT'S KLICK, GRANDPA AN FIREBRINGER

ngl pink ball, this is why im townreading u. only town makes that solve fwiw

i actually geninuly townread them both at page 35. im looking back it now -- it looked like there could have been a possibility i was being used. i was sad that whole day and then i told them thank u because i actually enjoyed interacting with them post 942 i kept having mixed thoughts about them - this is evident in 918, 920 , the post that u were referring to aobut the poison, again those were my doubts coming in actually thinking klick might be the poisoner. but my interaction with them was just to really see how they were.

i then ended up townreading them heavily during that whole day as i said.

so is there a chance i was being pocketed by klci kand firebringer? maybe

but i dont think klick is mafia here no more.

i dont think they just openly converse with their partner like that.

do i still think fire is mafia? yea and im willing to vote em today but hebichan is better.

i have a question, do u think there is a world where klick, fire, and hebichan could be mafia?

[GrandpaMo]

Mo has been sitting on me and I'm not dead yet, interesting outcome. I'm waiting for kawaii to claim too.

As scum here I never kill FL cause they were the only other person who could back me on the onconsistancies of pinks claims.

But I'm not really sure how to progress my town game from here.

Considering I'm not quick hammered here I think 2/1 scum split with 3p arsonist is likely here if I think mo is town.

i feel like u killing FL would help ur wifom a lot. like that is what i basically argueing about why u made that kill.

and tbh the talks earlier from yesterday about 1 third party and 2 scum is probably true. i am just saying out there -- it is very common for the discussion to be led and progressed by said minority faction. it ends up being right.

so im gonna think there is two mafia, u and fire. enchant is probably 3p here because of the weird discarded roles thing, i believe they scumslipped and didn't know.


so yea

[GrandpaMo]

klick might be the poisoner

This was on D1, we didn't know there was a poisoner yet. I'm accusing you of a Freudian slip

lol i was using the reference from FA's VC. i was keeping a copy from all of flavor's vc till that point

thats why i said witch later on

[GrandpaMo]

pinkball i think u underestimate my potential ability if i were to play as scum, i wouldnt be that dumb to slip a role. A WHOLE ROLE

[GrandpaMo]

I don't understand what you said in that post.

You said "don't poison my children" on D1 when we didn't know there was a poisoner in the game

Shinobu: I may be the only swords-lady among the Pillars who can't cut a demon's head off. But anyone who creates poison that can kill demons can be quite amazing.

tldr; i was using demonslayer rp. its nai because i wasn't referring to any role here

[GrandpaMo]

So you roleplayed based of a quote that was on post 100... on post 928

i was keeping all of FA's flavor. IM SORRY I LOVE DEMONSLAYER A LOT

[GrandpaMo]

What's your flavor again?

Muzan Kibutsuji which imo is my fav character

[GrandpaMo]

also dude we are both town here. im not even like tryna pocket u or liek do any weird shit. im just speaking geninuely from my heart.

im town and ik u are like 99 town

ur the only one who has a reasonable mindset. stop focusing on the wrong things.

im just worried about hebichan , klick, and firebringer being in a team .

but 2 mafia and 1 3rd makes so much more sense.

[GrandpaMo]

So you love Demon Slayer

yes yes yes <3

[GrandpaMo]

You love Demon Slayer, yet never, in more than 750 posts, never occured to you to suggest that the poisoner who only kills demons has to be Shinobu.

And the player who has never watched Demon Slayer could figure that out.

flavor is NAI thats why i didnt worry about it. i dont why u focusng too much on that

plus i dont think me bringing it up would have done anything lol becuase us saying posioner is shinobu means nothing

[GrandpaMo]

You love Demon Slayer, yet never, in more than 750 posts, never occured to you to suggest that the poisoner who only kills demons has to be Shinobu.

And the player who has never watched Demon Slayer could figure that out.

flavor is NAI thats why i didnt worry about it. i dont why u focusng too much on that

plus i dont think me bringing it up would have done anything lol becuase us saying posioner is shinobu means nothing

also tamayo, doma, mitsuri have posion abilities so again useless lol dont see ur point here

[GrandpaMo]

You're a rapid fire kind of player, you have shown that along the entire game.

Are you taking your time think very carefully the next thing you're going to say now?

no im responding to u while im on a meeting xD

[GrandpaMo]

look at what i said above m8

pedit: government meeting

[GrandpaMo]

look at what i said above m8

pedit: government meeting

10.30 PM?

yea also dont forget about different timezones xD

we are finishing up rn, its for youth and government networking

what else u wanna know?

[GrandpaMo]

did i make u go speechless?

[GrandpaMo]

No, I'm reading the rest of the game, I'm pretty sure I caught you, now I'm trying to see if you're groupscum or 3p

m8 what.

im literally town . i have no incentive to be doing all this as scum

me scum pushes hebchan?>???


WHY would i ever as scum push hebichan and have my vote hanging on them

Lets not FORGET u VOTED hebichan with me so u had the same thought process probably.

i townread u as scum??? i feel like me scum rn always pushes dead!kawaii here or enchant. ENCHANT HAS BEEN SOMEONE I BEEN SAYING TO GET FOR THE PAST FUCKING 5 DAYS.

But i am not even lying

It's not about you lying. It's about cryptic playstyle that you have been doing for the past 4 days. Drew did the same thing -- I called them out on it. Guess what, they flipped scum.

So, I wouldn't be surprised if you are scum as well. I didn't forget the whole ordeal last day where you were screaming to get your point across. Your energy changes drastically -- and I believe that is a scum motivation depending if the game is going in your favor or not.

I don't know if you want to be elimated, but it seems that you do. I was thinking about how Flavor Leaf could be more third party, if not you. You give jester vibes if you're third party.

But at this point -- I feel like you are in every world that someone has created for ranger, klick, and x

Scumteam is just probably Enchant, Ranger/Hebi (one of them) , PB/Klick (one of them). With third party being Flavor Leaf.

this?? I DO THIS ?? AND THEN PUSH HEBICHAN??

after me complaing about 5 fucking days and then push hebichan??? this is my perfect opportuntiy to push enchant if i were scum here.

and then klcik's hositlity this whole entire game and ive been tryna keep that up the whole entire time while TOWNREADING THEM.

keep reading. i hope you see the same flavor leaf does . im bout to just sheep FL's reads

[GrandpaMo]

this feels like a whole repeat with me vs flavor leaf

like come on. i want u to really analyze me and give me credit where its due

[GrandpaMo]

I think GIF is right:

I don't really think any sane mod would give mafia a second kill, with at least two source of assumed town redirection. The setup is already swingy as it is, and I feel like giving mafia a second kill would make the game way too swingy. But I do recognize the chance of third party.

" i think gif is right"

i literaly said this shit.

we have all been saying this.

but again i think this is NAI and NRI to the setup as a whole because we still dont know

[GrandpaMo]

Ummm no need to get mad, I'm reading the game and trying to understand where we are right now. But if you want an answer, if me and hebi are both town, the scumteam knew they could count on both of us going after each other, so they only had to take a stance on who of us they would want to push. They use one of the partners to make the push, the other two jump when the second town vote comes.

Both me and GiF are pretty much obvtown this game and both have recognized each other as town, so you (the hypothetical scum!you) probably thought that pushing hebi would be easy and that both me and GiF would jump on that wagon. I did, actually! I easily jumped on hebi's wagon! So my theory is not nuts, and if you're asking to "really analyze you and give you credit where its due", I recommend you not to discredit me the second I suggest you're not town.

im sorry im just rlly frustrated. im gonna gts.

its just feels like a repeat, and a repeat and a repeat.

like i have to keep explaining myself over and over and over again. i did it with the whole playerlist at this point and flavor leaf the only one rlly that understands me

im sorry , that just keeps tiring and frustrating.


also for the hebi scum wagon thing. no way u actually think that u and gif would both vote hebichan??? my scum!self would recognize that gif is actually against voting hebichan. i dont think gif has any reason to really vote hebichan. and u as well. i didnt even think u would actually be open to that by voting hebichan so quick (once u did that , i lowkey had instantly had a doubt that oh shit pink could be mafia. look at my other solve how u could be maf). i believe in scum eyes u are the biggest threat . scum would and should be pushing u here at all times. also i dont know why gif is confirmed in ur eyes

but im not tryna discredit u like i said over and over again. i already read the game like many times already and its just annoying to keep seeing us going back in circles and blame it on people who keeps reminding town to get out those circles. thats what i find frustrating.

im not

[GrandpaMo]

also @pink ball have we played together. i want u to read a mafia game of mine

[GrandpaMo]

i think meta is the best way to solve me imo

[GrandpaMo]

It's one hundred percent Klickwork. Their push on Imaginality is fucking ridiculous, extremely timely if Blue was their partner, and they either supported or participated in the well known scum tactic of flooding the thread so town players like me, who can't be active all the time, can't read and participate. I can taste the evil in their posts.

This post from IceDragon was very different from what I read on D1. This looked

informed

, and IceDragon claimed having a (soft?) guilty on Klick afterwards, and got nightkilled.

i actually caught this in my readthru too but i disregarded because i believe thats when they discussed it in the next day

[GrandpaMo]

Grandpa, you're the only one going in circles while I try to advance straight ahead.

me not voting hebi? When I said yesterday that her claim makes no sense with my result on Klick?

Me being the scumteam biggest threat? The scumteam that probably needs one more miss elimination and knows that I'll probably vote hebi? They don't need to eliminate any specific town today, they need to eliminate

any

town today.

Why is GiF confirmed to me? GiF protected me last night and I'm a tracker?

Grandpa, my problem with you is that you rant and rant about repeating yourself, but you clearly have no grasp on what was or is going on in this game. Maybe instead of posting so much you could read with more carefully?

1. That is just not fucking true. You keep reading the game again and finding shit that is irrelevant. Like that poisoner post, that was useless and I proved it to you. You just keep questioning and keep going in your logical flow with bias and I don't like it at all.

2. Is this a TMI slip? I am starting to doubt shit again. I literally had you as 99% town. Why are you saying one more elim like YOU know there is 3 mafia. What happened about those plans that you devised about 2 mafia and 1 third party? Again, this is what I am talking about going in circles.

3. Okay so GIF protection = Town role? This is just bias because you thought you were the night kill. Not saying you weren't or were, I am just saying you shouldn't have anything confirmed. Why weren't you confirmed with ranger then? YOU thought they were scum, then they flipped town. And retrospectively, their mechanics would have been "confirmed".

4. How do you not know I don't have a grasp on what is going on? Imo, I do? And I have been trying to push a certain adgenda. If I didn't, then I wouldn't be fucking pushing Hebichan right now. What do you not understand that no ONE is confirmed. You literally repeat the same shit and I keep going on about how people just wanna take my credit where its due. YOU ADMIT IT TOO! MULTIPLE TIMES TOO. DO U WANT PROOF??

Ugh. I don't fkin know any more.

This is starting to get to me.

[GrandpaMo]

ALSO WHY ME SCUM WOULD PROPOSE TO NC ON THAT PREVIOUS DAY. DID U FORGET ABOUT THAT?

[GrandpaMo]

No. He's very capable of spouting whatever comes to his mind to confuse the rest of the playerlist

What??? Confuse the playerlist???

You're just pulling shit out your ass now. I am not spouting anything random. You would see these are responses to your posts. SHOW ME ONE POST WHERE IT WAS RANDOM IN THE PAST 10 PAGES THAT HAD AN EFFECT ON THE GAME.

You can't because there is nothing. I have been responding to people, asking questions, trying to solve, and contribute just as much as you.

[GrandpaMo]

Is this a TMI slip?

This is the kind of bullshit that I'm pointing out: you're not reading carefully, you're looking to spout whatever you can. It says clearly "the scumteam that PROBABLY needs one more miss elimination", which makes sense setup wise and it's right now the consensus.

You keep reading the game again and finding shit that is irrelevant.

This is the first time I have reread the game, and accusing you of being the poisoner is a new thing that hasn't been suggested yet. Not irrelevant.

Like that poisoner post, that was useless and I proved it to you.

You proved nothing. You proved that you could've been more helpful towards flavor but actually didn't

Okay so GIF protection = Town role? This is just bias because you thought you were the night kill

1+1=2. GiF protects me + I'm a Tracker = ...

YOU thought they were scum, then they flipped town.

Are you fucking kidding me right? Do you see why I say you are not actually reading the game?

You literally repeat the same shit and I keep going on about how people just wanna take my credit where its due

I'm not repeating anything? And not trying to take credit of anyone?

Hey Grandpa, I'm still catching up, will you let me or will you continue spouting shit?

1. The way it was framed just made it seem like you already knew that shit. This ain't bullshit -- this is just my interpretation.

2. Don't take words out of context, I obviously mean that you keep reading shit and finding shit that's irrelevant and I give you an example. And I also believe me being brought up as poisoner wasn't new. The thing is EVERYONE CAN BE POISONER HERE.

3. ??? HOW. THAT FLAVOR WOULD HAVE BEEN USELESS TO SAY BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE THAN 1 POSIONER IN DEMON SLAYER. HOW R U GOING TO TELL ME THAT WHEN U HAVENT EVEN WATCHED IT. This is just some foolery right here.

4. How do you being tracker mean anything?

5. This is true. I literally read the game post for it and that's why I brought it up in the first place.

6. You keep repeating the same shit from what other people have said already. Do you want proof of that too? Like damn.

7. Also you can catch up I do not care. I am just letting you know, I just know that you are gonna say some dumb shit that was already brought up before like you already did.

Just watch.

[GrandpaMo]

No. He's very capable of spouting whatever comes to his mind to confuse the rest of the playerlist

What??? Confuse the playerlist???

You're just pulling shit out your ass now. I am not spouting anything random. You would see these are responses to your posts. SHOW ME ONE POST WHERE IT WAS RANDOM IN THE PAST 10 PAGES THAT HAD AN EFFECT ON THE GAME.

You can't because there is nothing. I have been responding to people, asking questions, trying to solve, and contribute just as much as you.

Can you stop AtEing for a moment please?

HAHAHAH U HAVE NO RIGHT TO SAY THAT WHEN U WERE DOING THE SAME SHIT HEBICHAN WAS DOING AND LITERALLY SELF VOTED. LETS NOT HOW U ACTED ANTITOWN IF U WERE TOWN

[GrandpaMo]

No. He's very capable of spouting whatever comes to his mind to confuse the rest of the playerlist

What??? Confuse the playerlist???

You're just pulling shit out your ass now. I am not spouting anything random. You would see these are responses to your posts. SHOW ME ONE POST WHERE IT WAS RANDOM IN THE PAST 10 PAGES THAT HAD AN EFFECT ON THE GAME.

You can't because there is nothing. I have been responding to people, asking questions, trying to solve, and contribute just as much as you.

Can you stop AtEing for a moment please?

HAHAHAH U HAVE NO RIGHT TO SAY THAT WHEN U WERE DOING THE SAME SHIT HEBICHAN WAS DOING AND LITERALLY SELF VOTED. LETS NOT HOW U ACTED ANTITOWN IF U WERE TOWN

And I am not ATEing this has no correlation to it. You are just bringing shit up that don't even make sense. Like really, playerlist? What does that mean

[GrandpaMo]

SHOW ME ONE POST WHERE IT WAS RANDOM IN THE PAST 10 PAGES THAT HAD AN EFFECT ON THE GAME.

I didn't say random, I said that you're trying to confuse people by stating anything that comes to your mind. Examples:

YOU thought they were scum, then they flipped town

Not true, I called Ranger town almost the entire day and tried to get Klick eliminated.

ngl i didn't even know kawaii was posioned till like midday

You not reading the game carefully

I see the team as GIF, Klick, Pink or Enchant, Firebringer, Hebichan

im just worried about hebichan , klick, and firebringer being in a team .

Between 50 posts you suggest three different scumteams

I can literally deep dive on firebringer as well to show you the lack of contribution and scummy posts made.

how do u expect me to townread them?? im not about to do no meta dive bs because we are on day 5 and if there is something they should do , is actually be proactive.

Talking about FireBringer, you first say that you can "literally deep dive" on him but a couple of posts later say that you're not "about to do no meta dive".

My point, Grandpa, is that you don't think that much about what you post and don't actually read carefully, so your acusations of everyone not reading or paying attention or going in circles is actually you trying to sell that rethoric.

Either that, or you have to get better.

1. That's litearlly what you were implying stop tryna sell this dog shit.

2. THAT IS FALSE. THAT IS COMPLETELY FALSE. U KEPT DOUBITNG UR SELF . I SWEAR TO U THAT IS FALSE

3. THESE ARENT THREE DIFFERENT TEAMS. I LITERALLY TOLD U what i am pushing.

I am pushing this right here as the scum team >>> Enchant, Firebringer, Hebichan. THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN PUSHING ALL DAY. The other team is the association team. It's either that or that. AND NOW ITS COMING TO LIGHT.

Me being worried about another possibility and I tried questioning it because it's something that's in the back of my mind. I don't actually think that holy shit. WHY DO U THINK I SAID I AM WORRIED.


stop tryna take the context away and frame me like im a bad person. ur either scum doing this or biased AF.

4. META DIVE AND DEEP DIVE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS WTH R U ON ABOUT.

omg -- deep dive was talking about in the game, THIS WOULD be obvious if u read up my other posts later on holy

5. Bruh, just please be quiet. you have made no sense

its eitehr that ur town literally not reading anything what i am saying, or u just tryna frame me to look bad .

[GrandpaMo]

I'm still catching up, will you let me or will you continue spouting shit?

ignore it

This is proably SCUMSIDING right here.

WTH. I LITERALLY SAID ITS EITHER GIF, KLICK, PINK

or its ENCHANT, FIREBRINGER, and HEBICHAN

THIS THE TEAM RIGHT HERE

[GrandpaMo]

Like really, playerlist? What does that mean

?

don't ? me. u literally mentioned plyaerlist

No. He's very capable of spouting whatever comes to his mind to confuse the rest of the playerlist

[GrandpaMo]

nah fuck this.

VOTE: Pinkball

[GrandpaMo]

I'm not trying to frame you, I'm trying to sort the game... and you're getting too defensive and making yourself imposible to sort out of this interactions. I'm inclined to believe this is just you AtEing and I don't want to read you out of this, so let me keep reading.

ateing my ass. if it was ate i wouldnt be voting u right now.

U LITERALLY QUOTE DIFFERNT POSTS JUST TO FRAME ME AND INTERPRET THAT SHIT WRONG. From my opinion, I feel like my posts are being taken out of context. which they are!

[GrandpaMo]

Cool, can I keep reading now?

idc i want u dead .

u can vote me today or not . i want u dead tho . im sick of this and tired of this u probably fucking used me last 2 days and it worked.

ggs ur scum . u out fucking played me .

idgaf if this is mylo or cyclo or whatever it is, if ur gonna vote me out right now, ATLEASDT VOTE PINKBALL OUT TMR

[GrandpaMo]

I can't take you seriously when you accuse me of taking you out of context when you don't read what I say lol

?? HOW Tho. Pink ball HOW.

I am being so geninue here right now.

yes, i will admit i was confused and lost a lot of the times during the days , but i collected myself and reread the game just like u are.

i dont understand what i am not reading -- its obvious from my pov that u keep framing me idk u just seemed biased af

[GrandpaMo]

Like, this doesn't look good for you, it doesn't look like you're actually mad, you look like you have an agenda, but I don't want to read you like that because you could actually be mad and I don't want to miss interpret your feelings or invalidate you, so I'm asking you to let me sort you by reading the rest of the game instead of interacting with you right now, 'cause if you're town and I'm making you mad, well, that's not my intention at all

adgenda???? ARE U SERIOUS RIGHT NOW.

omg pinkball, if i had an adgenda i would literally be STUCK ON HEBICHAN RIGHT NOW.

like holy, im fucking doubting my self every two damn seconds becuase of shit like this that u do.

and thank u for understanding, cuz i am town and u are making me mad but now i am feeling that ur doing that shit on purpose as scum.

[GrandpaMo]

Grandpa can you please shut the fuck up?

klick u literally continue to scumside with pink ballall the time.

FROM my pov, its obvious this is the fucking team (that or the solve that i made but this is right here, THERES NO WAY)

if not , i will quit mafia and never play on this site. that's literally how detrermined i am.

U HAVE DONE nothing this entire of the game. u litearlly wanna claim to have guilty ondrew and then never contribute for the rest of thegame while the rest of town goes haywire. SHIT i fell for it.

but litearly u have done nothing and now its obvious to see u pairing with pinkball.
idc anymore ur scum, pink ball is , and gif.

idk who i ahve anymore...

[GrandpaMo]

its obvious from my pov that u keep framing me idk u just seemed biased af

If you're town, it will be obvious from your point of view that what I'm doing is trying to frame you - you know for a fact that you're town. I don't. Everything that I say towards you will seem wrong if my conclusion is that you're not town, and right if my conclusion is that you're town.

I'm not the one biased, quite the opposite.

omg ffs pinkball. u keep stating the damn obvious. UR LITERALLY DOING THE SAME THING!!! the only reason i am calling u as biased is because u are putting out posts and pushing me and framing in a bad way when u called me scum dude. u litearlly called me scum dude

[GrandpaMo]

I know it's not worth your time to engage
you know it's not worth ur time to engage
just read bro, what are you hoping to get out of interacting with grandpa here

omg klick, please. how about u actually read our whole entire intearction and make up ur own damn judgement isntead of sheeping flavor leaf all the damn time and warlocking them to push ur adgenda.

[GrandpaMo]

You

LOOK

like you have an agenda, I'm not saying you actually have one. For fucks sake Grandpa

pink ball, that literally means i am having an adgenda from ur pov. stop tryna make it seem less or more.

how do i fucking have an adgenda? explain pls cuz this is getting to me

[GrandpaMo]

Ok Grandpa, I hope you sleep well and reread my last posts and see that I'm trying to be comprehensive and to avoid getting you upset, but if you're going to start every fucking post with "omg ffs pinkball" then fuck me, I'm not losing my time with you anymore.

lets not forget that u keep doing the same shit. ur just now bering a hypocrite. lets not forget that u pulled of the same shit with hebichan. lets not forget that u continued to act with hositlity and screamed at people.

ok buddy

[GrandpaMo]

Do this if you think he's actually villager. If he's a wolf he's just posting to tilt you because you're easy to tilt

I haven't sorted him yet, that's the problem. It would be way easier if I was convinced he's the poisoner and could say "hahaha sure dude fuck off"

u called me scum or third party.

u either have or haven't . this is what im talking bout going in circles man

[GrandpaMo]

Do this if you think he's actually villager. If he's a wolf he's just posting to tilt you because you're easy to tilt

I haven't sorted him yet, that's the problem. It would be way easier if I was convinced he's the poisoner and could say "hahaha sure dude fuck off"

I thought you were convinced he's poisoner

SEE. I SAY TEH SAME SHIT.


IM SO DONE >. OMG.

imdone..gn

[GrandpaMo]

Do this if you think he's actually villager. If he's a wolf he's just posting to tilt you because you're easy to tilt

I haven't sorted him yet, that's the problem. It would be way easier if I was convinced he's the poisoner and could say "hahaha sure dude fuck off"

I thought you were convinced he's poisoner

95% sure

might as well vote me then.

1v1 me rn idc.

[GrandpaMo]

ima take a break

[GrandpaMo]

Kawaii is online on site and ignores game.

isnt the definition of lurking? but u never know

anywho

@pinkball. i want to apologize for yesterday. i was extremely frusted not only to u but to myself. i feel like i let town down, everyone is calling me sporatic and insane and that's something i never want to be considered as :/ [i still feel A FEW of my posts were justified but this shouldnt have happened in the first place nor should i have yelled at u in caps or done any of that weird shit. i apologize]

idk if im being honest, this is the first time i ever felt this game. it's like a sense of urgency, a sense of trying to get stuff right and trying to figure stuff out. somehow when i do that, i dont end up figuring stuff out or just go haywire. and it sucks because i actually want to be good...

it's always just oh Grandpa the peerson who talks a lot or posts a lot, it's never grandpa the person to look to, to gamesolve as town. i literally have had this problem since the beginning ... ever time that my first normal game Aliensitter , i still remember it vividly. i was scum and i just kept doing wallposts and wanting to potray myself as this gamesolvey town but it ended up bad because i still got scumread.

then, next scum games, i played it relax with a few more of the actual contributory style posts where i would go out of my way to actively just wallpost or do analysis on people. idk that scum play developed my town play to what i am today.

so yea, thats that -- so again, i am sorry. and i geninuly need tips and advice on how to be understood better, look forward to as being cooperative, and how to really do a proper solve / reading on the people and the game. so any help in that would help u can either tell me now or after this game.

but yea sorry but thank u for giving me time to reflect. love u dude <3

[GrandpaMo]

Hebi from my understanding has been in hot water but no one was ever really interested in Hebi. We've all kind of just been trying to look elsewhere.

i feel like i have :/

UNVOTE:

[GrandpaMo]

And the thing is, there are two worlds here: one in which town has played poorly, focusing too much on mechanics that can't really understand; or one in which the scumteam has played way better and has dominated a game packed with good town players (both confirmed and based on my own reads).

Is a town composed by FL+Ranger+Pink Ball+GiF+Klick being dominated by a scumteam of... hebi? Kawaii? Enchant?

Or is there at least one really competent player guiding and making their partners better? Or am I underestimating someone in particular?

But if it's a team of underdogs, why would they kill Kokichi on D1? Did one of them suggested "hey, Kokichi may be a really powerful role because of how he played on D1, going under the radar and shit"? Or is it because Kokichi is a competent player and one of them was particularly scared of them being in this game?

im glad we are on the same thinking here.

u got what i was tryna say on the tip of my tongue. thanks

[GrandpaMo]

@Grandpa I don't feel you crossed any lines yesterday son don't beat yourself up, it has been fun playing with you and that's how I evaluate players in this place, not by how good they are, but how fun is playing with them (there is, obviously, a correlation between the two).

I'm not the best at this game so I can't give you any advice, but we can talk when the game ends.

aw thank u . that rlly motivates me to do better. thank u honestly . its been fun with u as well. rlly fun. i rlly hope ur not scum, beacuse atp u win the game like there is no way... i will have to nom u for a scumplay away haaha

[GrandpaMo]

Lol, yeah

VOTE: hebichan

Enchant is probably scum too

what is making u see my angle now? what caused u to change ur mind. beucase i feel like u were aruging against me on not voting hebichan

[GrandpaMo]

im telling u pinkie

the scum team is hebichan, firebringer, enchant (this is either 3p or not)

VOTE: hebichan

[GrandpaMo]

btw this means i should be ur toptown if i am processing this correct.

[GrandpaMo]

Lol, yeah

VOTE: hebichan

Enchant is probably scum too

what is making u see my angle now? what caused u to change ur mind. beucase i feel like u were aruging against me on not voting hebichan

Read posts from 4276 to 4287

i saw them but i feel like my case on them was a stronger reason on why they were scum . im sorry i dont mean it like that but interactions with drew is something i probably not have looked for

[GrandpaMo]

btw this means i should be ur toptown if i am processing this correct.

Klick is my top town right now for convenience

i was thinking since i wanted hebi out and came at them open like that, and now ur voting hebi.. u have the similar mindset as me. and if u think ur town, then i feel like u would have been more to say that i am tonw because i was/ want to vote out hebi, why would scum!me bus here?

[GrandpaMo]

Grandpa only ever thinks about himself

im not tho. im sorry if thats what it seems like

idk it justs seems logic .

me vote hebi
i town read pink

pink ball argues
pink ball votes hebi

pink ball scumreads me?
nah, only pink!scum would have stayed with that read.

but im sure ur town so, i was expecting u to townread me

pedit: idk sorry, i was lil offended LOL , idk i feel like i want credit so badddd

[GrandpaMo]

I'm scumreading hebi, I'm voting hebi, that would be all. Good night!

goodnight son, sleep tight

dont let enchant tickle ur toes

[GrandpaMo]

i feel like i want credit so badddd

Yeah I've noticed that, but credit is given when the game is already over, not during the game when nobody but you knows your alignment.

Well, and your scumteam, if you're part of it, but you know what I mean.

im talking more of how like u should give me towncredit, cuz ur voting the person that i told u to vote

and u discredited me for it. does that make sense