Large Normal 247 - Day 5

[KayJayQueue]

Still not convinced this is TvT but whatever

[Psyche]

You just sound butthurt that I pushed you yesterday

i knew you didn't scumread me! but id been burned! so i didn't scumread you back! do you know the self-restraint that takes?

it takes a moderate and totally doable amount

[Enchant]

um enchant could you just like read the thread and tell us who you think is scum pretty please

LYCAN LITERALLY SCUMSLIPPED FFSSF

Quote it?

Elaborate on what you're thinking?

Whether they could actually think they're doing anything useful.

I'm trying to think of why they'd do this.

1a)town, knows about the guidelines. waste of time.
1b)town, doesn't know about the guidelines. maybe useful.

^Vote this asap.

There's no difference in usefulness if i know deadlines or not and i do know deadlines.


But Lycan blatantly slips that mafia doesn't have traitor (and therefore INFORMED if they know or not), so from this point for Lycan "claiming traitor" is nonsense, because "mafia obviously know that Enchant is not traitor to they informed there's none"


If you have no clue what, tldr: Lycan knows too much.

If mafia knows there's no Traitor then indeed it's useless. BUT NO ONE BUT MAFIA SHOULD KNOW THAT.



Also i am not scared, you are bad at tyranny.

[Random Nurse]

ive seen a few actual scumslips, even kind of recently! usually they were signs that someone was lying about why they "scumread" someone. alas even town can do those. looking at you lycanfire

You just sound butthurt that I pushed you yesterday

To be frank this does slightly feel like SvS.

[Psyche]

ok but if it's svs can i bus lycanfire instead of vice versa

[Psyche]

at deadline of course. so i have an excuse to vote for a townread

[Lycanfire]

do the several pages of combing through the thread eod3 look like theatre then, random nurse?

[KayJayQueue]

ok but if it's svs can i bus lycanfire instead of vice versa

Just wait…if we’re both alive next day phase I’m totally using this against you! (once I get paranoid enough that I was actually right all along)

[Psyche]

right. paranoia. not opportunism. paranoia

[Random Nurse]

ok but if it's svs can i bus lycanfire instead of vice versa

It doesn't really matter so long as you two die.

Assuming you're both Scum of course.

[KayJayQueue]

right. paranoia. not opportunism. paranoia

You haven’t played with me as town for a full game. Just wait. You’ll wish you had a vig shot just to put me out of my misery from all the tinfoil shit I’m about to spew.

But I want it known, I have been right a couple times.

[Lycanfire]

I feel like Titus peeled off of Ranger before everyone else did, Penguin Power/Thomith left right after, she came back before both as we already know. Thomith was being convinced to go for Snow, which Titus was trying to get support for, but two hours after Thomith's vote she goes to Ranger.

(granted ranger dropped a lot of shitty reads since titus' post before the revote)

[geraintm]

Enchant, are you actually a Traitor?

If Enchant flips Traitor then the other two must be flipped.

does this mean you want ot eliminate Enchant?

it's actually really useful for weighing possibilities like gypyx/thomith being in a team with ranger

This take is awful?

what am i missing?
how is it so awful?

Our game is 10 vt, vengeful, ~~~neighbour~~~, triple scum neighbour?

This has an overly optimistic view of neighbours being protown and in this setup there's a great chance of pocketing the vengeful neighbour and using it against town. Even with that optimism the setup seems busted to me. It relies on fog of war to stop scum from freely killing whoever they heck they want.

so, if the game is 12 vs 3, i think it means scum can afford to lose 1 player in the first 5 days to get into the Mis Elim and win situation.
Is that considerd fair and realistic? with the pair of known townies and the vengeful townie, is it likely that 3 scum can last that long?

11 vs 4, i think they get to the Mis Elim and win on day 5 with losing only 1 scum.

sorry, just trying to do my homework and understand the game better

Why is random nurse fine

to me, their push on ranger on day 2 just doesn't feel like something scum would do. if they are scum, then this is the sort of thing that beats me in a game and i hold my hands up to it.

still feel reasonably convinced that the solve is best narrowed to

geraintm
KayJayQueue
Enchant

am convinced by the towncase for all the others, maybe most controversially lycanfire and oblivion

and i'm probably still inclined to take kayjayqueue out of this pool, but i can't say i have strong reasons for it
what i want to look for atm are any details that could convince me that this poe is wrong
if not, i'll focus on presenting why it's probably right

i'm still never quiet sure what your case on me is, apart from my posts don't meet your standards.
i've never claimed to be a good player, and i am doing the best i can with what i've got. i normally rely on scum being boxed in as the game goes on (which is why i liked the idea of a massclaim when it was first proposed) but this game, where we don't seem to be getting any info from night actions at all is really hard for me.

is maybe harsh to put it this way, but none of gera's votes or posts have meaningfully advanced the game and all of his votes have been away from scum

how do you expect me to push the game on? i felt day 2 i was trying to be more active than i normally am, and then the two townies came forward and they became the leaders of what direction town should be heading in. i cna't push if i don't have anything to push with?

i thinkk a big difference is that you're not a busybody in the same way
but we'll see if it's a big difference

do you just hate the way i play? is that the main issue between us?

This game is depressing.

Gut is telling me it's Thomith/Gypyx but no one really wants to listen.

so you don't want Enchant?

Snow liked Titus

Can't see geraint's opinion on Titus. Doesn't have one it seems.

i just looked, i had barely any interactions with them

Argueing with town leaders frustrating.

I guess i just jump for counter, hehe haha.

VOTE: Gera

oh....

Argueing with town leaders frustrating.

I guess i just jump for counter, hehe haha.

VOTE: Gera

UNVOTE:

unsettling

oh?

I wasn't a fan of how geraint randomly came into the thread yesterday and declared there was this important decision to make between Psyche and myself, and hinted twice that Psyche was imminently getting eliminated. Basic facts about Psyche v me were wrong. Lazyscum may have detected that the thread's intensity went up, and a lot of it is because we hit a slow patch and I went aggro to advance the game.

this my post 2189?
that was me popping into thread quickly, being aware stuff was going on and saying i would be back later - it was nearly 24 hours before i was able to post and when i posted i think the two wagons were pretty close but the Two Townies were split or not voiting or something and i thought they would agree on which way to go

KAy's post 2760 seems opportunistic waiting

I need to go and look at Enchant, because i cannot fathom their play today at all.

[Thomith]

Enchant, are you actually a Traitor?

If Enchant flips Traitor then the other two must be flipped.

Why does Enchant being traitor = me/Gypyx being scum?

[KayJayQueue]

KAy's post 2760 seems opportunistic waiting

I probably wouldn’t spew my thoughts like that if my plan was to take advantage of a situation. Unless you just think I’m stupid lol

[Psyche]

hmmmm. do i just dislike how gera plays? that's always the question in these games huh

[Psyche]

well someone has to be scum and it's not me and it's not gypyx and it's not thomith and it's not me and it's not RN and it's not oblivion and it's not lycanfire and it's not me. so who is it gera??

[KayJayQueue]

hmmmm. do i just dislike how gera plays? that's always the question in these games huh

Try having to work with him in the scum PT it’s like talking to a wall

I still can’t get over that that was my first game here lol

[Gypyx]

well someone has to be scum and it's not me and it's not gypyx and it's not thomith and it's not me and it's not RN and it's not oblivion and it's not lycanfire and it's not me. so who is it gera??

i think you're misclearing Lycan / Oblivion

[Gypyx]

not saying they're scum just like, the sus isn't too warranted

also enchant latching so hard onto Lycan's perceived "slip" gives me big scum vibes

[Enchant]

not saying they're scum just like, the sus isn't too warranted

also enchant latching so hard onto Lycan's perceived "slip" gives me big scum vibes

I just remind that next day is elo and RM (who probably just town) hates your guts.


So i suggest you to VERY CAREFULLY pick alies this game day.

[Gypyx]

well, uh, next day *probably* isn't ELo given that we've established the setup should be 12:3

[KayJayQueue]

not saying they're scum just like, the sus isn't too warranted

also enchant latching so hard onto Lycan's perceived "slip" gives me big scum vibes

I just remind that next day is elo and RM (who probably just town) hates your guts.


So i suggest you to VERY CAREFULLY pick alies this game day.

Wait what? elo already? How many of us are there?

[Gypyx]

Not a fan of this brand of fearmongering also

[Psyche]

nah. when i townlock someone they are definitely town. unless they are kay or ausuka and certainly not an unknown third person or fourth person.