I love the 90's Cartoons - Game over all hail The Brain!

[Oversoul]

Sword, are you town? Seriously.

What part of your PM says that information about your enemies? It could just be a reference to the fact that seemingly every superman villain ad Kryptonite... Your only weakness.

[Oversoul]

We have all the role PMs so far... None of the others imply anything ominous.

[Oversoul]

Why would you not investigate me/Mattp.

[Oversoul]

Also, what is the first letter of my name?

No mass claiming unt he does that.

[Oversoul]

It was more a rhetorical question. LS jumping all over that is odd.

I confirm. I'm somewhat unsure of what to do with Michel. But I'll trust him for now.

[Oversoul]

Completely ignores the points against her.

Good bye, Amrun.

VOTE: Amrun

[Oversoul]

But the thing is... You haven't been scumhunting.

[Oversoul]

Really? Have you read my points about you?

[Oversoul]

... Good thing I have more pill than you do with the town.

[Oversoul]

My head is very confused.

[Oversoul]

Going to reread tonight... hopefully... maybe....

Probably not because of roommates and all.

(I promise I'll get to this thread *sometime* within the next 4 days, very busy)

[Oversoul]

I mean either way wouldn't the scum have to lie? Unless they were given godfatheresque fakeclaims.

[Oversoul]

Holy shit that post

Michel, you are claiming Town Name Cop? As Merlin the wizard?

I am doing flavor research, but what show is he from?

[Oversoul]

Also, sorry if this is redundant but my computer decided to go on strike today. I'd crtl + f but iPhone doesn't have that :/

[Oversoul]

Chances of me getting to this game tonight or tomorrow night have hit a wall.

Sorry guys.

[Oversoul]

Just a quick thing while I see that you are here CKD

Your "scum knows my weakness!" is a flavor thing or a part of your role?

You are basically unkillable?

[Oversoul]

Yes I did confirm

That's interesting. No other flips so far have indicated knowledge slipping.

[Oversoul]

Michel can potentially out scum fakeclaiming, Poro.

[Oversoul]

sigh... and why would they fakeclaim?

We have one scum flip, Mr. Freeze, a clearly antagonistic role. Thus, it's not an off base assumption that the scum are all clearly villains. So they're not going to say "Oh yeah my initials are <insert villain initials here>" because then if they ever have to full claim, they'll have to claim their villain name.

I am glad we are making assumptions off of one flip. I mean it isn't like mods to throw in a mixture, (example, I put Robin in as a mafia member in Batman mafia) take a minute to think how this initial claim is useful currently? If anything its way too premature.

I doubt there will be good roles on Pinky's team, but I could see some Angelicaesque villains being there, I guess. Villains that could be good. Anyway, other than the time wasting factor (no one was exactly being productive anyway, which is why I just said that we should get this started), this initial claim isn't a bad thing at all, and will probably be good down the road.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Peregrine

Since Arugula's probably flaked and Pere doubting CKD's claim is shit.

Pinky's team?

Qu'est-ce que?

QUOI?

Pardon my french.

What the

fuck

? Where did you come to that conclusion?

[Oversoul]

I swear to god if this is multiscum.

[Oversoul]

Well she isn't dangerous *at* this moment. But still....

When I wake up in the morning I expect more discussion... about anything really. I just want this town to discuss things...

[Oversoul]

iDanyboy - Kyle Broflovisi - Townie - Lynched day 1
kdowns- town Inventor struck by lightening night 1
Projectmatt - Angelica Pickles killed night 1
Guy_Named_Riggs - Peter Griffen - Townie - Poisoned with beer day 2
Kmd - Cat/Dog - Even night watcher, odd night tracker - killed night 2
Oversoul (replaces MattP) - Peggy Hill - Townie lynched day 3

RBT: - Squidward Quiny Tentacles - Townie - Killed Night 3

Nero Cain - Mr. Freeze - Mafia RoleBlocker - lynched day 4
PMysterious - Odd night vig - killed night 4

I don't understand where you are saying that you blocked a kill, CKD. PM's kill would have had flavor and the mod confirmed that she would have put the flavor in the kill scene. She only added "killed" and not "struck by ligthening and killed".

I don't know if this is fishing beyond what should be obvious, but I really don't understand. >_>

It's okay everyone. Amrun continues to be useless. So she is okay with her death.

Good bye, Catpot. I knew you were made by the evil corporate Chinese.

Kuribo god, I am sorry for failing you, but I will channel your power in the future. Hopefully before I am relegated to posting pictures again...

[Oversoul]

I don't know if I can believe that Sword. :/ there is no reason that Pikachu's kill flavor *shouldnt* be there. I stand behind PM being roleblocked, or jailkept, or something that prevented his action that night.

I see your logic, SoO. But where did his kill go?

[Oversoul]

I see you Peregrine.

[Oversoul]

Let us vote Amrun.

[Oversoul]

I guess. I find that surreptitious it wasn't added in the actual death flavor.

So CKD was shot at or the person he protected was shot at.

It was very difficult to see any reasoning behind RBT's death. >_> Amrun was surely saving her for a mislynch just like she is saving Peregrine for a mislynch.

[Oversoul]

Oh those mother fuckers could have shot at me.

Fuck you, mafia.

[Oversoul]

Why do you think you are an idiot? I think it was me although CKD could have been shot at as well considering his status in thetown at the time.

I have to finish this book tonight and I have a meeting so my comments will be sparse and curt. But I am reading.

[Oversoul]

Tonight I am going to do some general house keeping with VCA thrown into it.

I'll make a list of those whole claimed what, and for those who claimed initials.

I'll make some comments.

And then I'll sleep. I don't want the activity in this game to die now that it is finally getting interesting.

[Oversoul]

Holy crap there are a lot of votecounts... Uhh... What did I get myself into.

[Oversoul]

Just ran into an old friend so I'm not going to get to this tonight and Michel basically did what I was going to do a few pages ago...

Ugh.

I want Arugula to come back, but knowing my luck I'll just get killed tonight in which case I'll replace back into this game a second time lol. Unless the mod says the PR "punishment" is something a normal VT shouldn't have

Who knows

[Oversoul]

Ok. I am forcing myself to do things for this game today.

Invite your friends, though please. Unless the modkilled won't end the day?

[Oversoul]

Hmm, looking at the flavour of the RBT flip, doubts wrt Seanalds claimed flavour are significantly lessened.

Oversoul claims to have blocked Nero. There was no mafia kill last night. Then, Nero claims roleblocker, but refuses to reveal his target.

Michel, can you please explain these two statements?

[Oversoul]

I am still searching for replacements for Sal and Agrula. If anyone knows someone, please let them know. I will give it no more then 4 days to look for a replacement for these spots. I really hate mod killing but if I can't find replacements that will happen.

Will these modkills end the day?

Will you still modkill if a lynch is reached before the 4 days have passed?

[Oversoul]

Okay. Fuck VCA. 35 page demon from hell and that isn't even all of it in order or with names/replacements corrected.

[Oversoul]

I like Amrun trying to distance Peregrine though. She thinks she is playing to her scum wincon, but she is just helping us at this point.

CKD, at the risk of giving too much away, are you going to protect MSH?

Given the game size, I am going to say 4 scum... At least 1 goon and we already have the roleblocker.

I want to say something but I need both replacements to say why. Although I guess I don't... :/

[Oversoul]

Almost want to let this happen... Would keep us on odds. And probably be a 1 for 1 in terms of scum and town lost.

[Oversoul]

We have 2 days before replacement is a modkill.

Rachel, claim your initials for your character name. Also where you given the choice of who you wanted to replace?

[Oversoul]

Ok.

Continue with the disassembly of Amrun.

Total recall.

I'll make my comment after Michel answers my questions.

[Oversoul]

Sala is most likely town.

With Pinky replacing Arugula first, I think she did it to prevent a more game changing scum modkill.

[Oversoul]

Rach if you want any chance of being called town you will vote Amrun tomorrow morning.

[Oversoul]

Well this is awkward... Rach, why did you claim M F specifically?

I'll answer Michel in a few.

[Oversoul]

@PP, lucky: Could you go a bit more in depth regarding Last Survivors slip? What did he say that only mafia would know?

@Sword: as mentioned before, I can claim the full names of my investigations after the initial massclaim is over if you still don't believe I'm an actual namecop. Since we're only waiting on the inactives to claim, I can also do this when it looks like they'll be modkilled.

@Porochaz: what was the deal with the "joke time" you used during the beginning of this game day, and why didn't the mod warn you for not using it anymore?

I believe I misunderstood this statement when I originally read it. However, since I've already eluded to the fact that I have "information" I will explain. When I first read this, I thought that Michel was hinting at the fact that both of the replacements were not included in his investigation results and that he had already received the information he needed. I thought this was potentially a slip seeing as Michel wanted everyone to be on their toes with his mysterious Night 2 and Night 4 investigations. The thought process was that he would just fakeclaim something that was already said and forgo telling us that his investigation was really on one of the two replacements.

Also, I do not believe that LS slipped. I didn't jump onto that wagon despite finding the slip because I felt that I could wait and see what type of reactions other people had. Unfortunately, I only caught a mason and an outlier in terms of scumminess.

While I don't trust Paid Pyro at all, I am not sure if he is scum.

Furthermore, M F could be what Rach was thinking when claiming. Valerie Frizzle is none other than Ms. Frizzle. As much as I want that slot's blood I have a very hard time believing that Ms. Frizzle is evil (well that and she is my favorite cartoon ever, really).

One thing stops me from calling Rach town given her claim from Michel - why did you not claim your initials like we asked?

[Oversoul]

I am still okay with the Amrun lynch.

The pool of Lynches has shrunk a lot thanks to Michel. So now we lynch out of the people not in the town pool.

[Oversoul]

Let me just throw my name (and everyone elses) back into the scum ring. It doesn't really prove anything.

What do you mean?

[Oversoul]

Well put it this way, regardless of whether I was a good guy or a bad guy, I'd be claiming the correct initials.

So you don't think there is correlation between name and alignment?

If I was Mandark from Dexter's Lab, do you not think I would be screwed?

[Oversoul]

Doug and Miss Frizzle....

I could understand if it is some ambiguous aligned character like Mr. Krabs or Deedee and even then I have a hard time coming up with a "neutral" character.

Also, Rach, I think you are nice and all. But why do you have to go through NS to reach Farside? She answers PMs and questions fairly often. Look at the response time of the questions in the thread.

[Oversoul]

Also, anyone "worried" that Amrun is town... Look at her activity across the site. She is actively avoiding this thread.

[Oversoul]

Either way, Michel has served his purpose clearing many people that are still alive.

CKD protect Michel of Amrun isn't scum and someone else (me since they already could have shot at me) if she flips scum.

What, I'm not *that* selfish lol.

[Oversoul]

Amrun, you apparently weren't too busy to make comments on other topics, both mafia related and non mafia related.

And your PR doesn't make sense. I would assume vulgarities or something for Bender.

[Oversoul]

Paid Pyro's play on this page has left something to be desired. He continues with an overzealous approach to the game.

[Oversoul]

Well based on the last three comments at least i know I wont be the scum killed tonight.

Thanx!

angry mom voice:

[i/]

What the fuck?

[Oversoul]

You can't just leave after saying something like that.

[Oversoul]

Everyone stop talking.

Please for the sanctity of the game.

[Oversoul]

[Oversoul]

[Oversoul]

Amrun - Bender - Mafia Backup, Limited - Lynched Day Five

Night Five begins now. Deadline is Friday, September 14, 8:00 AM EST.

:IGMEOU:

Oversoul (replaces MattP) - Peggy Hill - Townie lynched day 3

:IGMEOU:

[Oversoul]

^

[Oversoul]

^

beep boop beep boop

INPUT: Above post

OUTPUT: Don't fucking clarify things in such an anti-town manner for no reason.

bleep bloop bleep bloop

v

beep boop beep boop

INPUT: Sorry, been busy and kind of forgot about this game plus my stupid restriction....

OUTPUT: I am fine with an initial claim and think that will suffice, but I will warn that my character only has one initial so I can't give two. At first I was starting to get excited about Michel, thinking CKD had struck gold - but now, I think not. The thing he was reading was that Michel was suddenly interested in flavor, which is untrue because his role has to do with flavor and he'd naturally want to hide that - plus, I will just eat my own hat if Michel is scum with Nero. Also, I think oversoul could be right about it just being a flavor thing because everyone knows Superman's weakness.

bleep bloop bleep bloop

beep boop beep boop

INPUT: Scumspects

OUTPUT: Porochaz, who is still willfully not contributing and had the most reason to off PMysterious, but also ... a suspect I forgot about from Day 1!

Vote: PMysterious

For mysterious word play.

Catching up today.

OK, that was fun.

Vote: Kdowns

It seems obvious both BabyBlue and PMysterious were so new their paint hadn't even dried, and you've done nothing but call every action of theirs a scumtell.

Greetings everyone.

Expect some initial reads or other content from me tomorrow or Monday.

How come this never happened? Oversoul/MattP is scummy based on early play, but even with two ISOs you got nothing.

Vote: Lowman

Are early claims the new vogue?

Unvote: Lowman

Vote: Kdowns

Finally caught up with thread. Few outstanding things I think I need to do.

EBWOP:

Crap.

Vote: Guy_Named_Riggs

Waiting for Nero flip. Caught up all of today.

This is EVERY vote of PV's in the game - and consistently, he's STILL going after weak players for weak reasons, which is what I called him for on Day 1. He is active lurking HARD core.

VOTE: PeregrineV

Also find LS scummy, but mostly for gut reasons. Still find Seanald scummy but think the PM kill gives him town points. Don't see the case on Arugula.

bleep bloop bleep bleep bloop

At this point, I really want to vote MS again. Vibes man, vibes. This is why I don’t. Amrun being a role back up, means that scum must have some decent roles. We know they had RBer, but that cant be it for them to have a role back up-er. I just don’t think that a name cop, would be one of those “decent” roles scum would have that might need a back up-er. Unless they have some way to kill/weaken existing town roles (which is my theory). But, it is just doubtful that they would have a name cop….more likely, I caught nero when he slipped and they probably DO have a role cop of some sort (I also think they still have a way to weaken me).

That leaves sword, poro, OS, Jal, Pere, Cheery, paid pyro, LS, and Sean.

:Igmeou



>

?

Spoiler: Poroscum?

Seanald is like, not really as far up on my scumlist as I would like to give him a vote.

RBT is now.

vote RBT

Last post on like the previous page or something.

Oh also, partially faking a post restricion does not like, look good. At all.

vote idany

You had your chance to claim, you failed.

Okay tho,

vote overthoul

I have theen nothing, zilch nada about him that I like.

RBT thtill needs to die and the fake restriction by PM ith fucking annoying.

Sorry guys. I killed RBT.

Guess I am useless.

Yep, completely useless

PM why do you think Im scum?

Can anyone answer (preferrably one of the two people leading us down the garden path) what the initial thing is hoping to achieve, other than to waste time?

Hey CKD, why are you trying your best to get yourself killed?

fact: my role says there are people who know my weakness.

fact: MS comes out looking for names (which usually doesnt matter in a game)

from my POV how does that look? so what should I have done? Refuse to provide a name? provide a fake one? if scum is looking for me after getting a kill block, how would they have done it?

Well, you don't go "YAY HERE I AM!" which is basically what you did... especially on what is a tenuous suspicion, because you know more than one reason to find a name.

It was fake, I was testing something.

^ ^ ^

dead

> VOTE: blank

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It was fake, I was testing something.

>

PeregrineV

The other players are either null or town reads, which I won't reveal to avoid giving scum too much info. The null reads may change depending on the rest of the reread, townreads are unlikely to change today.

! ! ! !

Besides them, there are a number of other players I am now more or less suspicious of. I'll definately join a bandwagon on one of these if it's moving along and deadline is approaching. In no particular order:
Agent Ireland
Amrun
Arugula
Guy Named Riggs
Kdowns
Nero Cain
ProjectMatt

...

There is something very simple that changed since yesterday: Nero flipped Mr. Freeze. That is the trigger for me asking for a nameclaim, because based on that flip I feel it will be beneficial for town. The main reason why I believe this has to do with my role. I am Merlin, from King Arthur and the Knights of Justice. I am a name cop. The flavour of my results indicates that each night, I recall one of the names I found before I found Arthur King. During night 1, I targetted VisceraEyes (currently Oversoul), to find an explanation for his post restriction. I am willing to share the result I received to confirm myself, but only if he is ok with his name becoming revealed. During night 3, I targetted Seanald, and I can confirm that he is indeed Douglas Yancey Funnie. I am keeping my night 2 and 4 results to myself until after we've had a mass nameclaim, in the hope of using them to catch lying scum.

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[Oversoul]

VOTE: Porochaz

[Oversoul]

could someone explain to me why someone who has been killed can still post and vote? I missed that memo...

Meanwhile I will take a look at Porchaz.

....

Replacing VE(ViseraEyes) is Oversoul
Replacing Monday/Elmo is Salamence20

I am super busy tomorrow. I will be extending the night till Tuesday morning (08/21/12), 8:00am EST
Thanks for replacement to both people. Thanks to everyone for your patience.

[Oversoul]

There is something very simple that changed since yesterday: Nero flipped Mr. Freeze. That is the trigger for me asking for a nameclaim, because based on that flip I feel it will be beneficial for town. The main reason why I believe this has to do with my role. I am Merlin, from King Arthur and the Knights of Justice. I am a name cop. The flavour of my results indicates that each night, I recall one of the names I found before I found Arthur King. During night 1, I targetted VisceraEyes (currently Oversoul), to find an explanation for his post restriction. I am willing to share the result I received to confirm myself, but only if he is ok with his name becoming revealed. During night 3, I targetted Seanald, and I can confirm that he is indeed Douglas Yancey Funnie. I am keeping my night 2 and 4 results to myself until after we've had a mass nameclaim, in the hope of using them to catch lying scum.

So can we please have that mass nameclaim so that I can verify my results?

Win Condition: You win when The Brain Mafia equal or outnumber the town and nothing can prevent this

Comically dead:[/b]

Nero Cain - Mr. Freeze - Mafia RoleBlocker - lynched day 4

Amrun - Bender - Mafia Backup, Limited - Lynched Day Five

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>

[Oversoul]

On D1, Seanald claimed Douglas Yancey Funnie and then MSH confirmed Seanald's claim when he claimed name cop. So, unless Doug is in the mafia, or there's something else at work here, he's pretty much conftown.

How exactly? So if names can clear us, why did we go through the initial game? Why not just full name claim, now then? Scum have already committed to their initials.

Oversoul, I'm not sure what you are really trying to say in your last post you think MS is a better cop than mafia role cop?, but you were right two days in a row so why not....

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Porochaz

...



"You've activated my trap!"

VOTE: Paid Pyro

@Jal

I'm trying

[Oversoul]

....

....

VOTE: !!

[Oversoul]

Hmm I get some of the points, don't understand the others. the points I get I can explain but not right now. Not sure why there are two people posting pics?

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Poro

[Oversoul]

Also Im at work and not entirely meant to be on here. So dont extensive or quick responses.

....

[Oversoul]

sigh...

Anymore idiots?

....



DO SOMETHING

[Oversoul]

I'm struggling with OS's pictures as well but meh.

OS, reasoning for the Poro vote is because he's not doing anything...?

You and Poro



I speak in fucking pictures.

fuck you

[Oversoul]

I think its more ¨I feel I'm doing all the work so I'm being pissy and Im putting my foot down and you can make up this ¨case¨ I made. You know cause I'm good at making a point then undermining it by not actually doing the stuff I NEED to do¨

summed it up well?

[Oversoul]

LS, caps or no, your point is not lost on me. I find it odd you are clearing him on his checked out name, that's all. If you want to clear people good v bad then why haven't you asked for a name claim from everyone. We've all gave initials, right. So scum would have to either fake claim in this construct, or they have good guy names also. MS would then just go through the list.

You say I'm scum because I continue to challenge you. I'm challenging you because the more you post I get the sense you "know" he's town and you are using MS's information as a way to make you feel better discussing it openly.

Claim: Goliath from the cartoon Gargoyles.

@MS

...
-.-

UNVOTE: Peregrine

....

[Oversoul]

[Oversoul]

[Oversoul]

Searching for a replacement for Luckyjt.

That poor person

[Oversoul]

*sigh*

VOTE: Paid Pyro

This is a toss up for me. Only thing I would say is why wouldn't you let yourself be copped? That is the townie thing to do given your name.

[Oversoul]

Fucking PR...

[Oversoul]

:shrug:

:mindgames:

[Oversoul]

Fuck this.

MS result.

[Oversoul]

Also, I am thinking mass claim time. Almost all of our PRs are outted/dead and I doubt there would be anymore.

[Oversoul]

Please do.

[Oversoul]

Also, I will explain a lot of things today... Mainly the stupid mason stuff.

[Oversoul]

No. I will explain how things went down most likely. Poro needs to post first.

Cheery, we are mass claiming. Are you going to participate?

[Oversoul]

How would MSH confirm your role name? He is a name cop.

And I hate you for giving Amrun the BP. Like seriously. She was obv fucking scum for her shtty reaction with me.

So the way your thing works, is that you become whatever the other person was? In Kdowns case you wouldn't be able to use things he already used?

This at least partially confirms my theory... Hmm...

More later after mass claim.

[Oversoul]

And all of your abilities were one shot?

[Oversoul]

Ok. Before anyone else claims, I want Michel to post his result.

Failure to follow this will lead to an automatic lynch on your ass.

No more discussion or setup talk. Reread the thread and so forth. But do not claim until Michel has posted.

[Oversoul]

Except Poro, he can answer that question.

[Oversoul]

:sadface:

Now we wait.

[Oversoul]

No. Just no discussion about setup/roles. You can still discuss who you think is scum and stuff. Sorry I didn't make that clear.

[Oversoul]

Where is everyone? :\

[Oversoul]

Waiting for MSH

I know that. I meant Rach, Jal, Peregrine, and Lowman. All of whom have posted recently elsewhere.

Except Lowman. But Lucky and Lowman are the only two people I know who can play masons this inefficiently so I shouldn't be surprised.

[Oversoul]

Oh, there's CKD from beyond the grave.

*waves*

[Oversoul]

Red Alert

[Oversoul]

Oops. Wrong thread.

Anyway, let the mass claim continue. Peregrine first

[Oversoul]

Ok. Fuck. It that wasn't the wrong thread.

One of Porochaz and Michel is lying.

As soon as Porochaz misconstrued what his redirect ability did I didn't want anyone to point it out. That is why I halted any setup discussion and wanted Michel to claim without any forewarning. It also helps that this was the first time Michel looked at MS since Friday (I was stalking your profile, I just want this game to be done).

Porochaz's ability works like a normal redirector, not a bus driver. Meaning Michel should have investigated Fujiko and received Beavis. Either Porochaz is lying about his ability, or Michel is lying about his result.

So I am Babs Bunny.

Then the last night I had a redirect ability, which I used to redirect anything targetting MSH to Luckyjt. Thinking he was probably the most useful player to have around and to potentially prove my mason theory.

Im pretty sure I had one or two other posts where I tried to hint at my role, but they were the main points.

I hope that explains a few things.

Of course MSH will be able to confirm my role name.

TV Show: Dexter's Laboratory
Character: Dexter
Role: Inventor
Flavor: You are a boy genius who works in a secret laboratory, well you wish it was a secret, you're annoying bigger sister knows about it and keeps getting her hands into your experiments.
Ability: You send out invention you wish to use on people. During the night PM me the name of the player and the invention you wish to use on them.
The inventions are as follow:

Dexo-Transformer (aka bulletproof vest) - This suit gives one player the ability to survives being shot once per game. The person who where's this will survive only one shot then the suite blows up.
Dynomutt X-9 (aka 1 shot cop) - This robot dog gives a person the ability to sniff out scum. Use this dog to sniff out if a person is scum or town
Parrot Robot (aka doublevoter) - The parrot robot repeats a vote cast by a player. The person who receives the parrot robot will have their vote counted twice during 1 day phase.
Porto Lab (aka re-director) -

This invention will shrink a player and redirect them to another player. PM me the name of a person and who you wish them to target during the night.

Win Condition: You win when all evil forces are eliminated.

kdowns- town Inventor struck by lightening night 1

I investigated PeregrineV last night. His name indeed starts with an R, though I still have to check something.

Confirming Porochaz as Babs Bunny.

[Oversoul]

Also, the amount of power this town has is absurd.

[Oversoul]

I'll be explaining my pictures and the like today as well as my opinions later.

If you guys have any questions about my pictures just reference the post.

@Poro, really? The wording on the role doesn't imply that. :/

[Oversoul]

Why no explanation about Sword, yet you give an explanation for me, Fujiko?

Also, what does this mean?

Cheery Dog - I'm suspicious, but not because of anything he did. His posts are fine, but I'm a little suspicious of a post-restricted townie claim without any sort of power. Given the number of other powers that are flying around...

You realize I am the same, right? I have a restriction and no power.

[Oversoul]

Hmm. I just realized why this might be confusing.

For one I am a very special person. I was brought back from the dead to continue to fuck the scum team in this game.

Crtl F my iso replacement or above this line. I actually started off as a regular townie and then replaced into a post restriction townie slot so that might be confusing for you

[Oversoul]

That is highly weird. I saw your post before I posted and when I hit reply ... It showed it in preview edit.

[Oversoul]

Michel, why did you vote Rach when she claimed Ms. Frizzle?

[Oversoul]

Why did you not research the full name of Rach's character like you just did with Peregrine? There was time to do it.
If I was in your shoes I would have figured from my result alone that she was not scum even without her claim.

Peregrine, because I didn't have the information that Poro had about the ability. I thought it was a normal redirector, but Poro is describing a modified Bus Driver.

[Oversoul]

I think Sword is town even with this.

[Oversoul]

I have a lot to say, but I forgot what I wanted to say. :/

I'm so scatter brained.

Also I really implore people to read Paranoia Mafia. In it Peregrine essentially gets himself lynched without much scum intervention and sword has meta there that I feel is similar. I linked it already.

[Oversoul]

Has Mass Claim finished?

EveryOne claimed a name and their role?

[Oversoul]

It only ran for 2 years in the early 90s. I hadn't heard of it.

Ren from that show is definitely the protagonist and a good guy in my opinion.

I am Tara Bundely Or whatever that chick from Attack of the Killer Tomatoes is called. I never watched the show so I don't know much about her.

I think she is a main character.

Anyway, on odd days I turn into a tomato and can only talk through pictures. I have no powers. This pr is honestly the worst in my opinion. :/

[Oversoul]

even days*

but yes that pr does suck. *eeei*
way too hard to actually understand what you're trying to say.

I haven't heard of that show either. I also don't think I've watched ren & stimpy, but I've definitely heard of that. *grrr*

Ya... You can see how much care I give for this role lmao.

Okay now that everyone has claimed I will begin my "analysis" if you would even call it that.

[Oversoul]

Nero originally said that after being accused of being scum because KMD, his biggest scum advocate, was killed N2. It looks more likely he was just trying to save his ass to me. Either way, I don't think its really discernible what roles the scum have based on something scum said while under pressure.

While this is true, it might be something. Nero got really sloppy towards the end of his life. When I chose to kill myself in order to get him lynched he didn't do anything. It is possible that Nero slipped.

Anyway, given Amrun's role there is something unique about the scum.

Amrun's role is basically, if the scum get fucked too early, they will not be completely fucked by the town PRs. Having Amrun's role exists means that scum have probably one more important PR. Or else, why not just list her role as a Backup roleblocker? Or backup to the other PR?

I am really afraid about the amount of scum in this game. The PRs the town has are absolutely ridiculous. Scum are going to need power to balance that. I think of the PRs, there are maybe 1 or 2 scum.

It just so happens that I don't really give a fuck about Poro or Michel living really. Poro has played an incredibly weak game and should be killed on that fact alone. I don't really even know why I want to keep him around other than pity and thinking "too scummy to be scum".

Plus, I have fears of Regfan syndrome from Flame Warriors. Farside ironically was in that game. Similar situation with Nero as well between getting her lynched and Scumhunter in LyLo.

People really need to trust me. I am probably the only trust worthy person on this site.

Lolz aside.

So right now, Amrun's role means there is at least one more scum PR. Meaning at least 4 scum. With a town of this size and this power ladden, most likely 5 scum total.

Scum probably have their shit together and my interactions with Nero and Amrun scared them into playing conservatively now. So if there is going to be any connection hunting, look to the first day. Which is such a crap shoot in terms of associations.

Also. Do not assume anything to be true unless the person it is about has confirmed it. Or unless it is me. Then again, I am human and not very good at this so even if I say don't assume its true. But you can guarantee that I mean well when *I* say it.

Next, the masons. Amrun and Nero, granted they are good players would not allow two scumbuddies to claim Masons. One Day 1. The masons for all of their usefulness are fucking town. Anyone trying to push that crap that they are "so useless and therefore scum" should go fucking die. By that logic Porochaz is guaranteed scum and NO ONE was with me when I started pushing him.

That actually gives me an idea to look back at that part of the game and look for the hypocrisy.

Peregrine is useless as fuck. He can die as well.

Spoiler: complaining

Sometimes I wish I was a vig. Or a serial killer. Like REALLY REALLY wish I had the ability to kill anyone I wanted just because I could. Not give any fucks. I do too much complaining. I really need to stop that. I am going to stop that. There spoilered the complaining.

Peregrine is useless. I think he is probably town because Amrun's role would mean they have someone important to keep alive. Could that be distancing? Perhaps. I really just don't know, but I want to keep him alive for right now while I do some meta research. Peregrine has a tendency to get himself lynched very easily as town which is why I think Amrun latched onto him so early.

If we believe that it is 9:3 right now we have 3 days until we lose.

Here is what I think happened with CKDs death but I can't explain it. This game is seriously confusing. I need to look into Farside mod meta to see if her other games are this weird. Either way, CKD was a threat to them and he needed to be killed. The only way they could do that was by weakening him and then killing him. I think the only way they could do this was on the same night? Which brings up the question,

Pinkyandthebrain

, can a mafia member use their ability and kill on the same night, regardless of how many other mafia members are alive?

CKD claimed on Day 5. Meaning the scum would have had to target him Night 5 for their Kryptonite to work. RachMarie used her Commuter ability that night to confirm herself. This means at the earliest, they could only affect CKD with Kyrptonite on Night 6. CKD died on Night 6. The only way that they could kill him was if he was weakened earlier. As Superman, would he not notice this difference? Again, mod meta and the like.

I just don't understand anymore.

[Oversoul]

About the Nuwen + Kanye claiming Masons things. Read the last pages of the game.

Nuwen + Kanye claimed masons because that was literally the only claim saving them from death. Nuwen was a a lover of sorts with Kanye, meaning if she was lynched, he would die as well. Going for the only "confirmable" claim through mason meant that they would live. The scumteam really pushed for Kanye to be lynched first so that they could have an extra night to do stuff.

Using that very outlandish game as an example is bad form.

Peregrine, I see you. What are you thoughts on the people we should lynch?

I am leaning on Michel/Porochaz.

pedit:

Wait, Peregrine? Why do you think Poro is town for his role? He's played it horribly. He has literally no results confirming his role even exists and his play has been craptastic.

All I really ask for everyone to consider with my setup spec is that Amrun's role requires there to be another important power role on the scum team.

Michel's play has been gut wrenchingly hard to justify. If he was scum I felt that he would have told his buddies about that fail with the unvote on Seanald as Oversoulv1.

And if any of you are seriously considering that I am scum I will fucking cut you and throw the biggest temper tantrum in the world. I am not even kidding. Afterall the fucking work I've done for this fucking town I will fucking explode.

[Oversoul]

And I feel like Rach is going to be killed tonight given MSH's confirmation of her and the confirmation of her ability.

[Oversoul]

VOTE: Poro

Honestly, his play is atrocious. I honestly do not care anymore.

[Oversoul]

And you are forgetting the inventor...

[Oversoul]

BP Bodyguard + BP invention + Watcher

That is fucking ridiculous.

[Oversoul]

I missed that.

Sorry.

I just think it is over powered because of the role combinations that could occur especially if town was lucky with their abilities and scum hunted somewhat effectively.

It was when I said "I believe Seanald" and unvoted. I wasn't voting him at the time and I didn't realize that but if killed momentum and Michel used that as a point against me.

But I am just frustrated. I use no clear suspects and I am lost. I think everyone is town or at least varying degrees of town. All of our PRs that are alive are useless (except for Rach). and I just want this game to be over.

Pedit: day poisoning? The fuck?

I think PMyst was roleblocked N3. I can't explain that night at all though. It makes absolutely no sense with killed and the kill flavor. Seriously. Absolutely no sense.

[Oversoul]

And by that I mean that is a combination that could occur with our given roles that we have flipped. Do you think that is fair?

[Oversoul]

HOLY FUCK.

Why does GNR have poisoned with Beer instead of lynched? I thought that was just flavor.

[Oversoul]

Mod, is poisoned with beer the same thing as being lynched?

Was GNR killed before he was lynched?

[Oversoul]

Porochaz.

Go fuck yourself seriously.

If this comes down to another OS v douchebag I will gladly see you hang.

I was fucking joking about the trustworthy comment. Hence the "Lolz aside". You are too ingrained in your own ways to even see that I mean this game. Look through my history. Look at Flame Warriors and look at Oxymoron. I get egotistical like this and not because I am scum but because I am town.

What have you done for this town, Poro? Ask yourself the same fucking questions you asked Senald? Answer them seriously. I expected a lot better play from you and you've continued to underwhelm me.

Yes I have a problem with you. Can I easily translate it? No. People vote on fucking got all the fucking time. If you really want me to make a case it is this - you've done nothing.

You are too fucking stupid to see that I am acting arrogantly because this is the town that lynched me over Nero on Day 3. I am the fucking person that caught Nero and Amrun. I am the sole fucking reason those wagons were even thought of.

I am not claiming to be a paragon. I am not claiming to be the god of MS. I am claiming to THIS town's leader. I am claiming to be this game's main contributor and so far, most effective scumhunter.

What use have you been?

Your claim? Completely unconfirmable beyond "crumbs" which as we all know are easy to fake.
I may not be scumhunting like I did with Nero but that is because I am tired. I am in college now and have less time but this game still persists. No one is doing anything. I am sorry if I am angry. I am sorry if I have sand in my vagina as you like to put it but that is just how I feel.

My emotions are easily visible and you are using them as a reason to vote me. You are a fucking joke.

You are voting me based on your ideals.

I can point to anyone of your recent town games and clearly point out the difference in your play, the Crux of the reason why I suspect you. You aren't putting effort into this game. You aren't doing anything. Of course you are going to fall back on that comment you made earlier in this game, that this is your last one and then you are retiring. But then if you are not having fun, replace out. Or end your career with a bang. No, you're ending it with a big whoosh. Like the noise that comes out of a whoopie cushion.

I've seen other players do this. Reck in the TM2012 game, DGB with the OvTvS and the others she was in at the time. Those people let their final games be unspectacular because they were scum. They were tired. You are displaying this traits and I cannot ignore them.

There are things in your play that I can see coming from town. And like I said this situation is similar to Regfan's in Flame Warriors. And this bias I have towards another is similar to the one I had against Tierce in Mafia Behind the Maiden. But those scenarios are being outweighed by your play.

Do I think Nero and Amrun would advise yuppy teammates if they actually were not given fakeclaims? Hell yes. Especially to advise them to claim something that wouldn't get the other team members fucking lynched.

See, what I expected from an annoyed Porochaz was the invective against me and a call for me to get the sand out of my vagina but you took it one step further and put in a reliatory vote. That I do not like and did not expect.

By all means, I would like another person to step up and be town leader. I no longer want the responsibility. I realize I might not be doing the best job. That is why I have been bemoaning everything. I don't think right now I am doing a good job. I can no longer extricate myself, or my feelings from this game and this my judgment is clouded. I realize this. I am not giving my reigns up until
someone proves themselves capable.

[Oversoul]

Also, Sunglasses N Vodka by Avicii made this moment so much easier. I recommend it to everyone when they are feeling angry.

[Oversoul]

You don't have to appease me, Seanald.

[Oversoul]

Poro I am willing to take a few off this game. I would ask you the same but I fear that may make you not want to play again. Either way, I invite you to (briefly) take a break.

[Oversoul]

Im done with being silent(ish), I am very underwhelmed.

Could pretty much vote anyone as this point, will stick with oversoul until I have more time to read.

:\

You'll need to revote.

On the flipside I have to read this game.

I skimmed your response to my harshly worded response and it is making me not want to vote you.

I'll probably be back in a day or so.

UNVOTE:

I kinda dont want to lynch Cheery. I have the same feeling and opinion I had of PP yesterday.

[Oversoul]

To be honest, I really only voted PP for his deliberate not going to let MS target me thing he said. :\ Meh.

[Oversoul]

Sorry didnt realise you had voted, its oversoul that Im waiting on...

I'll try to make a well reasoned vote tonight.

I have a lot of stuff to do and a giant midterm to study for tomorrow.

[Oversoul]

I'm not voting tonight so dont hold your breath guys.

Too much work to do.

[Oversoul]

Ugh. Gut says Cheery and Pere town. :/

I'll
Need to read them

[Oversoul]

^
He's on my dick and I don't like it.

[Oversoul]

Post + vote tonight! I want everyone to be able to get on within the next 2 days btw

[Oversoul]

Ok. So I continue to comb through previous Scum member's isos and they are inconclusive it is frustrating.

I really don't want to lynch Cheery, but I don't know if Seanald is actually scum.

I am stumped to be honest. :\

[Oversoul]

I really think both those people are town or something god damn it >_>

I'll respond to your wall response to me tomorrow morning. I am probably going to hammer. I am sorry in advance Cheery if you are town.

[Oversoul]

Ok I really need to respond soon then uh answers may be more brief than I would hav eliked but still

[Oversoul]

Yawn... self meta... right... so you'll forgive me for not wasting my time reading other games when it will mean fuck all.

I really hate it when people say this when it is so clearly true it is funny. *sigh* I will accept your concession that self meta is not useful because it can be manipulated.

By that same token, do you believe nightkill analysis is equally as useless?

Also I've done fuck all for town, but does that automatically make my opinion invalid when I pipe up... no. Or at least it shouldn't, so since your aim here is to ridicule me and shame me in to silence I think the least I can do is highlight it and show that your not exactly mr townie of the year either.

That and playing people who have the attitude that you do makes me want to continue playing the way I have done the past few days. You seem tto fail to grasp that this is a game and you don't have to act horribly to get your point across.

First, I am sorry that you think my conduct is acting horribly. It just aggrevates me intensely when people think I am scum when I think am I being quite townie. Also, I am sorry that it makes you not want to play the game that is not my intention. I literally know of no other way to try and convince someone that won't listen to reasoning than to shout on them. If there is another way I would gladly be informed of it. There is no sarcasm in this paragraph either. My main point was that I think it is mean and ridiculous that people are entertaining the idea that I could possibly be town but I can't convince everyone. :\

Yes, you have problem with me. No, you don't have a case. Especially now Im contributing, except it's not the way you want because I'm going after you. You don't like that, do you? So despite the fact that my claim is pretty tight, you've decided to ignore that and just go "WAAAAAH HE'S DONE NOTHING!"

Your claim isn't tight and I don't know where you get the idea that it is?

It isn't confirmable by any means and the only indication that you have it is... flavor and a few crumbs. yes, I do put more value on play than PR in this game especially (barring the masons) look at my trouble with MSH (who I think is probably town but will not be with us for much longer :\) and PM's "play" versus his role.

Yes I don't like you going after me after I (in my opinion) have done so much. (read above)

Not a reason to be arrogant.

And really, you weren't. Your Nero case came in your previous slot, and Amrun was going with or without you. So yeah you can take yourself down a peg or two.

Was she really? Or was mainly most of her scumminess her reaction towards me during the age of Nero?

And your point? It was agreed upon long ago that VE was thought town. I was very happy to be able to carry on my legacy and physically be present to see two scum bags swing.

The PR also frustrates me a lot so that probably is why I am aggressive.

What have you done to contribute in this slot?

Happy to admit I haven't done much, but you can be emotive and use that as an excuse all you want, I am going to keep asking you this until I get some sort of tangible response. Just because I haven't done much doesn't mean you shouldn't be called out for the same thing.

I think the reason why are at such odd is because I still feel responsible for both Nero and Amrun's lynches seeing as I was alive (in this slot) for those lynches and able to take up the torch against them.

So far there really hasn't been much else to do other than cleanup the dishes after I prepared the meal (on the Peggy Hill slot if you must).

Well, maybe, but you can't really argue both points here, can you? On one hand you think Im useless but on the other you think that I can implant a fake claim throughout the thread over the course of weeks and game days. Doesn't really make sense... Then look at the claim.

Others have argued this point already, why would I claim backup and moreso JOAT. I mean scum already have a backup and even then, with my crumbs a lot of things have to fit into place, a lot of things that I wouldn't be able to factor before in (like Rachmarie's role) to make a claim like that. So how you can somehow work this into some sort of elaborate fakeclaim yet not even consider for one moment mason-scum astounds me.

1) scum wouldn't fakeclaim backup because there already was a backup and thus gain credit from such a claim?
2) joat? that is just the "use" of your power
3) you can still post crumbs and be useless? Is that a joke? Obviously you can do that. It doesn't take much effort to make crumbs
4) why are you so indignant about me not believing your claim, but when I say I am a mr. townie you are angry that I am indignant towards you?

See this is the kind of thing Im talking about, a lot of emotion, a lot of insults but in the end, only one thing for me to say: prove it.

I have known for a while that I don't get going until the second half of the game, usually earlier now, I admit, but I don't think you can.

I am really curious about your alignment now lmao. *joke aside*

I can't. However... why are you using self meta when you just throw my self meta to the wayside?

On day 1, when this happened?

Easily possible to advise them on what to claim before the game begins, especially one that wouldn't get another teammate lynched.
Jackal117 is a very weak scum player so I highly doubt he would willingly go into something like that. Memory serves though that LUcky was the first to claim so... ya :\ that is a weaker point

What you did was annoy me enough to rouse me. You and latterly, Seanald poked the bear. So I did some research on you both and guess what, I found something vote worthy, and now finally I have something to stick my teeth into. It's unfortunate that it took you to vote me with enough insult before I took notice, but I will freely admit I kinda got swept along with your "man with the plan" attitude. But in the end, where did that go. Some analysis that didn't go anywhere. Because you can say I disappointed you in regards to my play. I get that. But in the end, you disappointed me by flatlining when you were meant to come up with something awesome.

I hate the concept of town leader, it allows someone, potentially scum, to lead town and become untouchable and allows people to coast (seanald, me, I hate to say...). In recent games I have found that I have had to try and take them down, especially when they are leading town astray or are probably scum. Currently you are in the latter category.

Leading them astray as in going after you and questioning other players? This looks awfully like trying to make yourself into that leader though with the shining knight in valiant armor type theme you got going on

[Oversoul]

I see you Peregrine

[Oversoul]

Didn't really change it. Still confused as fuck about this game lmao.

[Oversoul]

VOTE: Michel

[Oversoul]

Seanald
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Michel
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????

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[Oversoul]

Seanald =

[/quote]

MSH =

MSH = = Oversoul =

Not connected

[Oversoul]

UNVOTE:

[Oversoul]

I'm OK with this too.

Vote: Michel

@Oversoul-

=

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[Oversoul]

L-2

[Oversoul]

=

Poop =\= poop
Poop = Seanald



Poro :shrug:

[Oversoul]

Sometimes, I really don't like this mod.

I couldn't log in yesterday, and when I managed to check in just now, I didn't find any results pm in my inbox. The last time this happened was during night 5, when RachMarie blocked all actions. Back then, it wasn't that much of a problem, since I couldn't post in thread anyway as the problems with ckd's lack of actions submission were being dealt with. Still, I had to send a pm to the mod asking what happened to my investigation, which got confirmed the next time the mod posted. I really would have liked to see a pm telling me my result failed, though, since the uncertainty between the mod simply forgetting to send a result and the investigation failing is mightily annoying.

Anyway, I tried to investigate Lowman last night, because PoE is starting to point against the masons, and as I mentioned, I didn't get a result. Which is mightily strange, since mafia has lost both their roleblocker and their backup already. Perhaps they have some kind of one shot global investigation immunity or something? Either way, I'm getting the strong feeling I'm being set up here.

Night 5...
Night 6...
Night 7...

Seanald crumbs?


Night 1...?
Night 2...?
Night 4...?

@Poro

[Oversoul]

Perhaps they have some kind of one shot global investigation immunity or something? Either way, I'm getting the strong feeling I'm being set up here.

Barring guilty
Today MSH =

[Oversoul]

MSH

[Oversoul]

Mod fix that img tag please. thank you

[Oversoul]

2 days

If no MSH

Hang

[Oversoul]

VOTE: Lowman

[Oversoul]

REALLY not sure about Michel as this could be his teams way of just getting a mislynch.

*sigh*
Forgive me if I am wrong, but Michel has done his part. If he is town we have 2 confirmed scum. I just want to cover all our bases.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Michel

[Oversoul]

Oh fuck. Pictures.

[Oversoul]

You need to explain how the fuck that happens, Poro, specifically when you said you couldn't do this.

[Oversoul]

Why the fuck would you give me this over *anything* else?

[Oversoul]

Mod, if Michel was the last scum alive, could he use his Role Cop ability and kill on the same night?

[Oversoul]

I have a double vote by the way.

VOTE: Lastsurvivor (L-3)

I don't think Seanald is scum after Michel's interaction with him. I think Sword is pretty town. Jal is probably town from Michel's interaction and I think Peregrine is probably town given the scum team interaction with him.

[Oversoul]

Also, I am going to be very mad if I am wrong. :/

[Oversoul]

Stop the argument walls. No one reads them.

We've got two mafia or two clears and a lynched scum, meaning we don't go into tomorrow with a possible MYLO situation. Win/win. Time to AFK for another three days, gentlemen.

How many scum do you think are alive?

[Oversoul]

I wonder why Amrun never said anything. I got a message saying I had a double vote. She would probably have gotten a message saying she was BP.

Anyway, I don't want you thinking this confirms you (although it confirms your Role)

Do you agree with my vote?
If you cannot have your Seanald wagon, who would you vote next?

[Oversoul]

Sword, why the hell would you think *you* would die? Of all people still alive?

[Oversoul]

No. I think there are more just my way of circumventing potentially unanswerable questions.

I'll explain when she gets back to me. Although I could have just said "if there is only one scum..."

Jal, LOL. I am low on the totem pole for kill order now that Poro has confirmed himself. It is probably Lowman (confirmed town), Poro, me.

They probably want to kill Lowman as soon as possible should he flake and get replaced by a person like Andy or Mastin who has the potential (and the time) to read the entire thread and analyze connections.

[Oversoul]

Waiting on LS I guess

[Oversoul]

No quick hammers by the way

[Oversoul]

UNVOTE:

PoE mostly. I really just don't know anymore.

[Oversoul]

The only thing you are contributing?

[Oversoul]

Me and Poro

[Oversoul]

I'm out of town.



I think Pere is on to something...
However...

I need to think on this.

No more votes/quickhammers.

[Oversoul]

Pere quickly,

Who do you suspect?
Why would MSH use his ability to clear scum, let alone Seanald?

None of his other "investigations" prove that.

[Oversoul]

See Pere

From anyone's point of view except yours...

You're under the same suspicion that you put Seanald.

Seanald himself could use your very logic against you.

What do you say to that?

[Oversoul]

Poro, what is your role name?

[Oversoul]

Your role name is Babs?

That's your character name.

[Oversoul]

I really just feel like Peregrine is town after that whole setup spec and didn't include himself in the analysis. :/

I might hammer later today.

But im pretty sure scum lie in {Jal, LS, Poro, Sword} if Pere isn't scum. I just can't fathom Seanald's play as scum.

I have my own opinions about those in that group too. :/ I don't feel like Sword is scum. I want to say that Jal isn't based on MSH but I don't really know. Poro maybe could. But he just proved his role.

LS I feel like is a good chance but I will wait until LS flips.

[Oversoul]

Oversoul, I swear you keep saying that every person being ran up is town, and then you proceed to vote for them. Why is Pere town to you? You initially said that you thought Lastsurvivor was scum, but then you withdrew your vote on him. Why?

P-edit: Pere, you basically just restated what I said D7 that there's probably one scum in the cleared pool and one out of it (considering a scum-Michel). So, yes, I agree.

Does that make you angry?

I gave reasons for my gut thinking about players. Paid Pyro and Cheery and Pere are all
Players that I thought didn't play well but I felt were town for the play they did do.

Amrun wanting the town to fuck Pere's corpse is interesting as she pulled the same crap of "why no Pere votes" with RBT and RBT was town. I dont know if Pere flipping scum would have given her credit. I don't think it would because she wasn't particularly vocal about it other than being "he is"

While that could easily flip in terms of Pere being town or scum depending on how you look at it, I just can't make my mind up.

In a way I checked out after Paid Pyro's flip. What was your comment about coasting for the next three days after MSH flipped?

[Oversoul]

LS, what do you think of Jal with relation to MSH calling him town?

[Oversoul]

VOTE: LastSurvivor

Just going with gut at this point.

Watch me be wrong after I was right about PP/Cheery. :/

LS is L-2
Pere is L-1

I'd like to wait for Sword to finish his LS and Seanald read before one of them dies.

LS I give you a better explanation after I finish this essay.

[Oversoul]

So ... I kinda passed out after that essay.

I'll get to it later today. I promise. >_>

[Oversoul]

Poro, why isn't LS scum?

[Oversoul]

I think I have Jal. Either that or I read one of his games. This is pretty typical of him in my mind.

[Oversoul]

Meh... Tempted to go to Pere despite my better judgment.

[Oversoul]

That's what he said Pere.

That vote was awfully survivalistic. I don't think you've done that before.

[Oversoul]

I really dont think Sword is scum.

His effort levels are too high.

[Oversoul]

Something has got to give with all these townreads being thrown around.

[Oversoul]

An MSH lynch seems silly. I don't think I'll ever be on board for lynching him.

Sword, I'm confused by your point that scum do have fake claims if MSH is town role cops (I'm also not entirely sure how it's relevant). But all scum would have to do is go through any of the hundreds of cartoons out there and find another character. OR, just use the protagonist of their actual character's show. This isn't a game where fake claims are really a necessity.
MSH, why should we vote Cheery, other than PoE?

Waiting on results before a vote since MSH is at L-2.

I believe he is scum though. It wouldn't make much sense for the scum to leave him alive, since these last inspections could out a more villainous character, or a fake claim, etc. Also, I think he's experienced enough to consider the possibility that Pere is not necessarily cleared based on the facts.

In the span of those two posts he wants a Michel lynch?

He gives no thought to WIFOM or anything just immediately jumps to that after saying his lynch was dumb.

[Oversoul]

I just remembered I was supposed to make a case on LS.

Well, lmao. I'll do that later (I promise this time >_>)

Anyway, look at his interaction with Amrun, Arugula, and PP. they are disconnected.

I'll explain later. Just look at his scum reads on the first page of his Iso and then look at his votes when he has those scum reads.

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Seanald is not scum MSH definitely tried to get a mislynch through on his ass with his investigation post flip.
Poro is prob not scum. Scum deliberately do not have this crappy of a game (I'm sorry but it's true)
Sword is not scum. He would not be putting this much effort in.
I'm not scum.
Low man not scum (Mod replacement on him?)
Between Jal/LS/Peregrine. Waking up early to make the case tomorrow. If anyone votes outside of those 3 players I will take it as an immediate scum claim.

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unvote vote Seanald

Cheeky mother, aren't you?

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You realize that in between that in between those two posts was Cheery's lynch and Rach's death, right? AKA a major change in information that I wasn't expecting? I thought that if there were a scum in our PRs, it would be Rach, since she could hypothetically be the commuter opposite PP. Her death made MSH look extremely suspicious.

And yes of course I gave thought to the WIFOM. But I'm not going to speculate if I don't have to, since that does more harm than good. <.<

You were expecting RachMarie to be scum.... with a town wide Commuter Ability with the name of Miss Frizzle... with an ability that specifically links Miss Frizzle...

okay.

While I agree that mentioning WIFOM is generally a poor decision, it can be important if you bottle the amount of WIFOM you yourself say at any one time and let others fill in the blanks so you can analyze their opinions.

At this point in time I am looking for a specific action with regards to nightkills and the like... Amrun displayed it pretty well when she was voting me. I'll let you guys figure it out.

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Kmd - Not many posts, not a lot there. Null.
Lucky - Same deal. Not a lot there. Lucky, was your vote on curious legit or RVS?
Matt - Matt's town. Even if he's wasting time with PLs.
MSH - Not a lot of posts, but good stuff there. Just feels like the game's moving too fast for him (I can relate). Town.
NC - Don't feel comfortable calling him anything but null.
Peregrine - 1 post, but BW hop while implying that he's not caught up. Bad, but null.
Pmysterious - VI vibes. His wagon definitely looks scum motivated...so there's that.
Porochaz - Not much, but his PR makes me think he's town.
Projectmatt - Where has BB towntold?
Riceballtail: Why are you unsure if Amrun is town or not?
Seanald - Why would you clear someone because they're playing badly...?

Let me bring your attention to his comments on KMD, MSH, and NC. At the time of this post KMD had 2 posts, MSH had 2 posts, and NC had 3 posts, yet he came to a different conclusion for all three of these people.

He doesn't realize at this time that those three players have a similar amount of posts and while MSH has more word density for his posts (they are paragraphs instead of NC's quote's + comments and KMD's one line comments) they are all pretty similar. Why does he feel the need to give no read at all on KMD, yet a townread on MSH and specifically a null read on NC where he doesn't feel "comfortable"? Why doesn't he just use the same logic for NC as he did with KMD?

Also, why does he view Peregrine's actions as bad, but null? While he makes no comment about NC's actions and lists him as null anyway?

Also, nice work trying to take credit for saving Pmysterious with your unvote even though no one would have voted him since we all thought he was lynched. You unvoted while we thought he was lynched...not afterwards. So you can't say that you saved him at all.

Here he is trying to discredit MattP or at least not let him have credit (*cough* this is why i was suspicious of Poro a few days ago *cough*) for something that MattP thought was town and proved that he was townie.

Post 441 is weird. I can't really understand why he said "hah! Right on the money." when Pmatt agreed with his read on GNR, yet when MSH came around and made a "case" against MattP he agrees with it easily, only really quoting his suspicion of "taking credit" as the reason to vote him. However, the best is when he qualifies his read on GNR after switching when obvious support is available, calls AI scum for no reason other than not generally being helpful enough with a debilitating PR, and then lists more nulls to add to his already big list.

*notice how Kdowns is now null instead of scum from his previous list*

@projectmatt:
1) Geez, that's what Pmysterious meant by his post? I didn't get that at all from what he said...especially since he posted before I responded to him.
2) I didn't know what you meant, that's why I asked. I thought that had something to do with my post...I guess it didn't.
3) Your blind, illogical defensiveness of Pmysterious makes me uncomfortable.

re Nero: You have good points. NC's first post is actually quite scummy.

Where exactly did this come from? The only comment about Nero was that he was null but now he is scummy. Okay.

Pmatt's suspects going into the night were Arugula, Nero, MattP, and LS to an extent. Killing one person just for one scumread being accurate is usually poor form. Killling it for two? That is an optimal kill, especially on Night 1 so you can nip any problems in the bud.

The tone responding to Pmatt is really awkward and looks eerily similar to Amrun's "Oversoul you idiot! Why did you claim Vanilla!?" when all of you thought I was counterclaiming Nero.

I really don't understand why Pere's scum. Can anyone explain?

But has his actions listed as bad and null? Generally you have some point of view of why someone could be construed as scummy? I find it really hard that he had no opinion, whatsoever, about Pere at this point.

Asking someone why someone is scum is a really nice way I like to look active when I am scum. It gives me things to look for to pick apart in other player's posts as well as point to jump onto a wagon if I say I agree.

OUTPUT: Compare his vote on kdowns with others' behavior, including mine. He is going after weak players for weak reasons.

Yeah, I see what you mean. His vote is incredibly odd if it's his only reason for voting kdowns since, as you said, others have been only going after Pmysterious/Babyblue.

@Pere: What made kdowns so special, considering what I said above?
@Amrun-bot: What do you think of MattP?

And what do we have here? A point for entry onto the Pere wagon should it gain steam plus a nice little interaction with Amrun.

Try a kdowns iso and tell me how it looks to you.

Nope, sorry, I'm not doing your work for you.

Now, answer the question?

No opinion, but acting really antagonistic towards him? Look at LS's most recent post. He isn't antagonistic about Pere voting him. Just confused about his lack of reasoning.

But now he actually thinks Pere is scum.

What?

Not if your voting him.
But, you did or did not notice his exclusive focus on Blue and PM?

I like you.

Anyway, yeah, I noticed. Kdowns is one of my scum reads again, but I'm voting someone who has also been exclusively focusing on PV/BB...and you. What do you think of MattP?

@Jal: Who's worst? MattP or Seanald?

Both of these posts are filler comments designed to look like activity.

I know there are pros for keeping things secret, so not going to vote RBT for not revealing the reasoning for her vote.

Oversoul not posting is making me feel useless, but I don't wanna move my vote in case he's pulling some sort of gambit to get us off his wagon. I dunno. <_<

@curiouskarmadog: Can you make some sort of case on Seanald? I really don't think he's scummy, and don't see much in your ISO (nor his ISO) to convince me.

Can we NOT role spec?

Really interesting because LS is basically coasting now that I have replaced in and have been inactive. He defends RBT here for keeping her reason secret but was attacking her earlier for thinking that Amrun is potentially suspicious. This could possibly be LS thinking she had information dealing with the vote.

The role spec comment is particularly interesting given that he is a Vanilla Townie and looks like the type of Knight in Shining Armor move that I would expect a scum to make.

#851 = gud reasoning why iDany's scum.

Why don't you explain why I'm not pro town you have not made a case for me either.

iDany's just defending against what he thinks he can defend against. He completely ignored my case for example. Why complain that players aren't making cases against him, if there are perfectly good cases he's not responding to?

I literally do not even know when the iDany suspicion started in LS's iso. That is a bad thing.

VOTE: GNR

Oh my god #1076 is so bad. Seanald never said that only scum lurk and all that other crap. Strawman strawman strawman.

@Nero: It was Mastin's mini normal which ended in April, (it got eaten in the crash so a lot of it is lost). I thought it ended much earlier than that though, but it actually wasn't that long ago.

Oversoul, some of your comments towards Amrun I pick up the hint you are crumbling her name/character back to her. Amrun is he on to something?

Why would you ask this...

Again with the Knight in Shining Armor complex. He goes after something that is perceived as scummy but Paid Pyro was really just acting ignorantly (in a godo kind of way)

Funny how LS forgets that in that game I was basically confirmed town for my predecessor's play of claiming miller and two cops claiming

KMD is a big fat town read in my books, and he'd be town in that situation too. Scum KMD isn't likely to link himself so closely to his partner.

[citation needed]

It was more OS's comment that looked suspicious to me, but hey.

Also, ah...that GNR wagon popped up awfully fast. And the fact that some of the wagoneers motivations boils down to "I don't want to see OS lynched" (definitely looking at you kmd) makes me very uncomfortable.

This logic is interesting because he applies the same logic to MSH and Jal later in the game, but it is okay.

why wait to answer this question? You actually didnt answer any of my questions. If nero flips scum, WHO NEEDS TO DIE? I see you have posted a bunch after this, lets hope you answer this. what if Nero and OS are both town, "who needs to die"? EDIT: you post more but didn’t answer my questions…please do so now.

If Nero flips scum, “who needs to die”?
Why even make a statement like that? What is the point? Why ignore the possibly of Nero being scum when declaring who needs to die?

When I said "sooner or later" I meant...like...the day after that. Aka, today. Aka, now.

However, I'm not going to answer your question exactly, since I'm not as confident about neither Nero nor OS's scumbuddies as I am about their alignments not being the same. I will tell you who would be most scummy if Nero flipped scum. So, feel free to rage at me, but hopefully you'll find my answer satisfactory.

For simplicity's sake, let's look at the OS wagon.

Oversoul (5) Nero Cain, Porchaz, MichalSableheart, VisceraEyes, Amrun

Porochaz hasn't really mentioned Nero at all, but hasn't justified his OS vote well (yesterday he had an excuse I guess).
MSH is being genuine I think.
VE...ah...nothing really from him. Nothing about Nero, nothing justifying his vote.
Amrun's been pushing OS hard and defending Nero. See this post.

So, in order of most likely to be Nero's partner to least: Amrun/VE/Poro/MSH

Paid Pyro is an interesting one in the fact that he's standing on the sidelines in this whole fiasco and actively defending both of them and otherwise not producing much content. I think he's scum either way, personally.
Monday is not on either wagon, however he seems to want a Nero lynch as well as a RBT lynch so it's not likely.

CKD, there's another side of this scenario that you're hilariously not considering. How about you delve into that one, since I delved into this one for you?

I am going out of town right now but I want everyone to look at this post and then look at his subsequent posts where he lists his suspicions and his votes. He doesn't act on this Amrun suspicion until very late in the cycle which is highly suspicious given he listed her as NC's most likely scum buddy.

Also, look at LS sucking up to me when I asked Sword if he was town and LS immediately jumped the gun to make him answer.

I'm not moving my vote.

Seanald is not scum because there is no way that MSH would investigate him. THat is exactly why he would say he investigated him. It buys him time for a claim + after MSH is eventually flipped it would incriminate Seanald. It was a good move by MSH's part. That was not a plan for Seanald to claim Vanilla as I said, and justifiied, when I claimed vanilla as Oversoul v1.

They likely used N3 to investigate someone else probably another PR as evidenced by the first two investigations.

Poro get your vote on LS and stop being useless.

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Will someone do fucking something like hammer either Pere or LS?

The fact that LS hasn't been hammered reinforces my suspicions of him. :/

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I've explained countless times why I think those two are not scum. And it's just PoE at this point.

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Have you read my posts, LS? Pere is acting like he did in Paranoia and I don't think he would deliberately mark himself as town in his analysis since that is taboo on this site.

If Pere gets lynched and flips town, Poro you are sheeping my ass until kingdom come.

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I will never support a Seanald lynch.

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If there is scum outside of LS it is in {Pere, Jal, and Poro}

Those three players have play that is unsubstantial.

No, Poro, it's called knowing how to read people somewhat effectively.

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Shame on me LS. I am sorry.

VOTE: Peregrine





^ ??? > Scum? {Jal, Porochaz}

Town Seanald
Townreads SwordofOmen

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VLA until Tuesday

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And Poro since your role is basically confirmed once this day has finished and if te game is still going on it has been a pleasure to play with you

I hope we can be friendly

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also, if there's a 2 man team left, then we can't be wrong about the lynch today.

This. It's 4:2 right now. I'll revise my earlier posts with the LS flip and go from there.

Meh.. Prob true...

UNVOTE:



Peregrine,






Jal, ^

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I'm just scared to be brought to LyLo because historically I have a bad rep of fucking it up.

If you could kill anyone other than Seanald who would it be?

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Fuck.

Images

:death:

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I'm just scared to be brought to LyLo because historically I have a bad rep of fucking it up.

If you could kill anyone other than Seanald who would it be?

FUCKMEIHATELYLO.jpg







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Oversoul claims to have blocked Nero. There was no mafia kill last night. Then, Nero claims roleblocker, but refuses to reveal his target.

Sometimes, the obvious choice is simply correct.

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Oversoul claims to have blocked Nero. There was no mafia kill last night. Then, Nero claims roleblocker, but refuses to reveal his target.

Sometimes, the obvious choice is simply correct.

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@Oversoul,
do your PR infractions reset at the beginning of each new game day?
if they do, can you do me a favor?
seeing as you most likely got your warning for the day (given that Pinky did the VC),
can you please break PR one more time and vote?

call me paranoid...

?:?

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vote no lynch

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