Newbie 1455: How We Met The Mafia (Game Over!)
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Playerlist:
1. Pieisgoo MauriceMoss - Me
2. Acidic_TACO -
Confused but has played mafia a lot? Why did they claim the tracker so early? Second page? Sounds scummy.
In post 46, Acidic_TACO wrote:
Wasn't planning on it...I read the rules...I was gonna post a picture of a kitten...and before you ask its because I have a strange sense of humor.In post 45, Bitmap wrote:You can't post a picture of your role PM.
I'm town, if I live I'll prove it by using my tracking power on someone...then again now that I've said that the mob is gonna off me anyway.
So like I said, I'm boned, might as well have some fun before I get offed.
3. techking45 T S O
How are you a newb but posted enough to have a mafia scum title?
7. Bitmap (SE)*
In a newb game? Why would you think such? Making the newbs feel like idiots so they are easier to manipulate, perhaps?In post 24, Bitmap wrote:
No one is retarded enough to quick hammer at L-2.In post 18, TwilightsCall wrote:I am at once torn between leaving DMS at L-2 to fish for a quickhammer from scum, and unvoting in order to avoid said quickhammer.
Again with the name calling with at least one newb who might be confused.In post 53, Bitmap wrote:
No, not really. Normal people don't go batshit insane and claim at L-2.In post 48, Acidic_TACO wrote:Ya I am...considering I'm dead anyway because the mafia is gonna kill me now, doesn't make a difference...
Just wanted to throw out you killed the tracker on the first day.
Could be distancing.
8. Dessew (SE) - Well thought out posts with quotes. Get town vibe but could be helpful mafia.
9. RachMarie (IC)**In post 55, Dessew wrote:Oh, and I forgot to add, shotty: taco's approach that he doesn't want to vote somebody without wanting to lynch him is actually the good attitude, not in RVS, though. Nevertheless, it's a newbie, and newbies tend to underestimate the differences between lynches, votes and random votes. Think about players who threaten others with voting them, although they explicitely state that they have no intention to lynch.
Helpful posts, no other real info. Said we should GET OFF the tracker which is legit but not informative like the rest of her posts.-
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And this:
I'm still reading through but wanted to get my time warping done.
4. TeedyKay*
Voted for taco
had baby
5. TwilightsCall*
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"everyone thinks counter claiming is good" (only tso said this)
6. drmyshotgun (SE)
Good posts but on offense. Very in yo face.
Agreed with worthless about IC
TSO
asked Cop or jailkeeper to reveal.
Good info about the setup and the doctor role.
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I find Rach's posts exactly what I am interested in in a newb game. I am not playing just to get a win (as the wonderful townie I am) but to learn about the game. So you who are crapping on her informative posts are suspect.
(Is it just me or does the quick reply box seem to have really small text.)-
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In post 148, MauriceMoss wrote:Also.. what is this about:
The deadline is Tuesday, December 10, which is in 4 days, 12 hours, 9 minutes
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Some of the alternate characters would be strong characters I wouldn't want to lose in a night kill this early on just to find out that Taco claimed something to save him/erself. Taco could even live through it and someone else would be night killed.In post 153, TwilightsCall wrote:
TSO brought it up, Dessew agreed with his point (#107), and no one else said anything to imply they thought counter-claiming now would be risky. If no one is disagreeing, I take that to mean that they agreed.In post 146, MauriceMoss wrote:And this:
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"everyone thinks counter claiming is good" (only tso said this)
Um...not sure what your asking, but if you mean literally, the deadline is the amount of time we have left until we forfeit a lynch and we proceed into the Night phase.Also.. what is this about:
The deadline is Tuesday, December 10, which is in 4 days, 12 hours, 9 minutes
I was asking if the lynch was Dec 10th or in 4 days.-
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To me your actions ring true with what you say you are but your actions could also be a wolf faker.In post 152, Acidic_TACO wrote:I'm again...new...not really used to this kind of format of the game. My other posts will inform you of that quite well.
As for why I claimed so early...cause I thought I was gonna get lynched if I didn't...so out of necessity.-
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Since this is a newb game am I supposed to be getting my game play questions answered?
Dessew were you talking about TSO when you said "There IS content you could comment on, yet you..."
I get a good vibe from you but talking so generally is difficult to follow.
So the games go slow because there is so much time per week? Why are the days SOoooo long?
My question:
In post 144, MauriceMoss wrote:Ok some questions:
The role setup is so that it's one row or column and no other specials? (if Taco hadn't claimed) there is only a roleblocker option for an evil special?
So if Taco is actually a tracker then it's ONLY Dr. or bullet proof that could be the specials?-
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I appreciate your post and I'm here in a newb game trying to figure out the best strategy for posting in a mafia game. I know rl mafia but this online fine tooth combing is hard because I have a tendency to go by intuition and have a hard time explaining why I think someone seems scummy.
Taco seems most scummy to me because although the newbness sounds like a real newb the claiming of one of the strongest town specials seemed weird, especially with the time left in the day and the number of people who were voting. After claiming he also said he knew he would be killed that night because of his claim. Why make the claim?? And then interestingly TSO put in huge letters that other specials should claim to prove taco as scummy but I think that would just put other specials in the line of fire. Also TSO said there is a 50% chance Taco wouldn't be NKed. Why wouldn't mafia NK someone who claimed tracker when there is only 50% chance that there is a dr. in the game? At this point I feel like it's 60:40 Tracker:Scum for Taco.
TC: You posted
"He hasn't done anything other then ask questions (which is fine) and post facts. In and of itself, thats not so bad, but he doesn't post any opinions at all."
I had two posts right when I first joined trying to comment on the people already playing. I time warped the thread twice and posted my thoughts and opinions. I've been posting plenty of opinions, one of which you said you even agreed with. That actually was one of the things that made me question you. It's always nice for a mafia to have a town bonding moment. Of course I'm right on whatever it is you said that you agreed with (no I don't remember what right now) but you still pinged me with that. I'm scummy but I've been trying to post as many thoughts and opinions as possible just to get them out there and try to get the thread moving. It's interesting that you see me as scummy when I've been very straight forward and am trying to hunt but don't have much to work with.
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Yes, thank you for that well thought out vote reasoning.In post 217, T S O wrote:EXCELLENT, MAURICE.
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As much as I would like to vote TSO I don't get a mafia read from him. I'm still suspect about TC but I think Teedy is looking worse. Of course I don't know what is going on with bitmap/replacement who really looked questionable with the random in your face posts.
I wonder if only town is posting and attacking each other. That would be funny.
Who is either not posting or afk or trying to quit:
Rach** - IC
Bitmap* - SE
Dr (recently afk)* - SE
Posting:
TSO
MM
Taco (still seems scummy for the non newb/newb card but no counterclaim)
Teedy*
TC*
Dessew- SE
So we have newbs posting who are notoriously pingy and SE & IC being afk/utr/quitting.-
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I had searched google before that and did see the name taco. Wow, editing it to make it a different name. Gracious.
I played one other game online on another forum and was pinged as mafia from the start. Ended up 2 town to 1 mafia and I was the poor newb town dragged along because people wouldn't believe I was just being a newb. I see why now.
His claim could still be true but he is looking more and more like a good vote. Geez. That was a perfect claim.-
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If you keep talking about it maybe it will seem like you have a case!In post 233, T S O wrote:
So remind me what he lied about?In post 224, TeedyKay wrote:
http://www.superiorrp.org/t11052-superi ... me-sign-upIn post 219, Acidic_TACO wrote:
Wanna prove that...this is literally my first game here so either you're pulling it out of your ass or I have a twin on this site using my username...In post 218, TeedyKay wrote:A simple google search of Acidic Taco and mafia scum shows his attempts at starting a game. We have a confirmed liar in our midst
Please also note folks that he has changed his username since I posted my findings, but the 'edited by' at the end of the OP is damning to his original name. I've screen capped it and will upload in case he edits after this post!
Maurice case IS coming, btw.-
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I actually agree meta google searching really seems outside the realm of a game but changing the username seems really weird. (I saw the name before he changed it) Maybe he wants to look less like he knows what he's doing than he does. Doesn't make him scum but it's really weird.In post 224, TeedyKay wrote:
http://www.superiorrp.org/t11052-superi ... me-sign-upIn post 219, Acidic_TACO wrote:
Wanna prove that...this is literally my first game here so either you're pulling it out of your ass or I have a twin on this site using my username...In post 218, TeedyKay wrote:A simple google search of Acidic Taco and mafia scum shows his attempts at starting a game. We have a confirmed liar in our midst
Please also note folks that he has changed his username since I posted my findings, but the 'edited by' at the end of the OP is damning to his original name. I've screen capped it and will upload in case he edits after this post!
going for him:
newbie game
seemed actually frustrated
no one has counter claimed
against him:
weird time to claim
meta google information
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Why would the mafia jump on the same wagon, wouldn't they want to distance themselves?
I have noticed I'm jumping on wagons but everyone seems mafia to me! All you T's seem to run together and seem evil. (TC, TSO, TK) I am also thinking the rach wagon makes sense. So yes, I'm very wishy washy on d1.
So have we heard much from bitmap's replacement? (I'm on the wrong page and the name was hard to remember)-
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Yes, this early it's hard to keep people separated in my mind. I forgot Taco, too. What's with all the t's.In post 262, Acidic_TACO wrote:Twilight, what I hope he means is he gets everyone who starts with T confused...
Also I hate circular arguments, I don't expect them to act in a way I expect.
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Useful because it's a lynch? If you are town wouldn't any lynch be as useful as long as it's not a special?In post 302, TeedyKay wrote:
Agreed, it may be too late, but my lynch will be useful, and I appreciate that thoughtout approach to the game.In post 301, phokdapolees wrote: Also, very importantly: IWILL NOTbe here tomorrow at the deadline to hammer if need be. While I do not agree with the Teedy lynch, I'm givingintent to hammerbecause pretty much all the time, except for certain situations such as mylo, a lynch is better than a no lynch.-
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I was on my phone before, I just want to mention this for posterity, I haven't been the least bit outraged in this game so I'm not sure what kind of evidence "outraged" is so it seems rather suspect especially on top of bitmap's somewhat strange posts.In post 283, Skelda wrote:Well, I really don't like Maurice or Teedy, but more so Maurice.
VOTE: Maurice
He's doing this whole outraged thing where he tries to deflect any suspicion on him.
Teedy has been sitting for a while with a hammer looming, so that makes him more likely to bw scum in my book. But I'd still prefer Maurice.-
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Ok so when is the deadline on Saturday??
I thought it was today until I read through the thread.
Oh man it's the day that doesn't end. It just goes on and on my friends (and mafia.) Some people started playing it not knowing what it was and they'll continue playing it forever just because this is the day that doesn't end..
This attacking taco is ridiculous because there is no counter claim so although there could be a real tracker out there or one of the other options that would disprove no one has spoken up so it is ridiculous to talk about lynching Taco.
Of course if taco is the tracker he will probably be killed during the night so it really doesn't matter either way (unless they decide to take a chance of leaving him alive for us to mis-kill?) If he's still alive tomorrow we can attack like mad but today it's just ridiculous to try to get rid of taco. (unless taco and you are both mafia and you are trying to distance. If that is happening please let us know )
I'm still ok with rach because she is so utr and hasn't posted much about the game. The Wazza "played with her before" argument might work if we all knew each other but at this point we don't have that going for us so it seems like a stand like that isn't arguable. Also of all the people who are put under the gun (even the tracker crazy claim) was better than rach's response.
So claims so far? Teedy claimed town and taco claimed tracker?
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Also, (if you aren't mafia) the mafia want you to look bad so getting overly frustrated helps their case.In post 342, TwilightsCall wrote:@Taco: I appreciate your frustration at the same exact thing being brought up repeatedly over the course of the entire game, but try and dial it back a bit. If you need to channel your frustration, try and do it by making a case on someone. Even if you're feeling provoked, reacting like that will not only look bad, it'll make the game less fun for all involved.-
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I was trying to ask if anyone else had already claimed.In post 345, TeedyKay wrote:NOOOOOOO!
No one else claim!!!
And Maurice, if I were the tracker, or any other Town Role that could counter claim Taco, I would not be divulging it on day one, it'd play right into scum hands!-
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Did you forget this quote?In post 350, TeedyKay wrote:
Joke, nothing to add to what I've already said, lynch away, good luck Town.
Lynch Rach
Look at Wazza
Forget my shit with Taco, he's Town
So who are our friendly under the radars that let the town mislynch yesterday. And who voted for teedy even though it became increasingly clear that he was town. And who dropped the hammer even though he looked town??
RachMarie(3) - TeedyKay, MauriceMoss, phokdapolees
MauriceMoss(1) - JasonWazza
TeedyKay(===[]) - TwilightsCall RachMarie, Acidic_TACO, Dessew, Skelda
We know there is probably at least one mafia voting for tdk and we already cleared taco so..
tc
rach
dessew
skelda
seem suspicious. It seems kind of dumb for the mafia to have jumped together on the band wagon and lynched teedy but I guess it's possible.
The TC wagon was going pretty strongly there and then it disbanded which makes TC suspect.
phok and jason (and I) are the only ones who didn't vote for teedy.
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rach
phok
TC (after not being lynched)
I'm still happy with lynching rach still because utr is slimy especially when the only real posts have been "help" posts. It isn't helpful to the town to be utr so either she's dropped off the face of the earth or she's still trying to avoid posting.
Wow we are at L-1 already?
Please don't hammer me without warning me and letting me make a post.-
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Thanks for your baseless votes. I particularly enjoy the detailed analysis that went into them.-
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Who are actually still newbs in this game? Just me? TC?In post 254, TeedyKay wrote:Well it's all gone quiet, either people have faded or there's an air of trepidation about dropping the hammer, just drop it, it'll show me to be bog standard Vanilla Townie anyways, no exceptional use to Town in the grander scheme of things, so happy to go to show the rest of you out there exactly how quick and how devoid of substance this wagon was.
How Acidic has lied yet is voting me for pushing he may have
How Rach has lurked and only when pinned down comes up with awful excuses for a wagon about how I should be voting Acidic even though it's been covered multiple times already in the thread that no one else was going to vote.
Strangely for me how Dessew voted for me for coming off the TC wagon, when his post further compounds what I already felt about TC myself.
TC is Town, ignore that vote on me, it's clear, Moss is Town for me too but that truly is just a gut at this juncture.
its been a good game, a little quiet in places, but to all the newbies learning, one thing to take on board is thatScum Hunting at times looks ropey, because scum hunters are ACTIVELY going after people to get results for the good of town. Sometimes they are wrong, sometimes they come across as aggressive, sometimes they come across as desperate and other times plain crazy, but just remember if they are hunting/voting/challenging owt out of the norm then they are usually Town on the hunt for scum.
Don't be afraid of dropping the hammer, fuck the bullshit of 'intent' I'm the Town sacrifice this day phase and I doubt I can stop it.
Good luck Town-
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2. Acidic_TACO
4. TeedyKay*
1.PieisgooMauriceMoss
3.techking45 T S OJasonWazza - tso asked for claims in bold - jason posted about reading through a couple days then no other comments. town read on tso (although voted for me) jason never voted
5. TwilightsCall* - wasn't lynched even with steam behind it but rereading day 1 I get a town vibe.
6.drmyshotgun (SE), Skelda - having a hard time getting a read on both dms and skelda. Feels scummy but could just be pushy town.
7.Bitmap (SE)*phokdapolees - thoughtful ornery posts and then just one post from phok (although went vla)
8. Dessew (SE) - before reading through seemed like helpful logical posts but after reading through day 1 I get a weird vibe. Would like to hear more.
9. RachMarie (IC)** - a few towny posts but most of her few posts are about not being active
Definitely still willing to lynch rach if not just for inactivity and much of her activity defending her inactivity.
And with this I'll work and hope day 2 picks up. I really wish we wouldn't have killed off someone who actually contributed (and nk'ed another one) We are going to end up with an afk game.-
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