Mini 1633 ~ Non-normal Mafias Mafia OVER!!!

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/first to confirm #3

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Mod

: Is the existience of this game confirmed or denied?

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Petition to call this Schrodinger's Game.

It may or may not exist.

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I'll say what I want to say, thanks.

My understanding of Paschendale is that he is accused often as town.

I've only played with a few of you so I'm not really sure where I stand yet.

I still don't like how Om blatantly states that he isn't tagging portions of the game once again.

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I also reported post 50 for racism, that isn't going to fly here homeboy

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It did indeed, Pasch.

Who we gonna call?

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now
this game is crazy as all heck

so im just gonna
not pay attention to early claim implications

in terms of other roles
i think its likely each role could be individual to another role and any implications you would get in a normal game arent present in this

extinguisher claim itself is believable
too random of a role to fake right off the bat

This is what I meant, Om. I don't like how your first post states that you're already ignoring a portion of the game.

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Sometimes.

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you might be right.

i was hoping i was on to something, dangit. stop ruining my theories!

p-edit: Yes

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Occasionally (halfway between sometimes and rarely)

I have watched Log Horizon, History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi, Full Metal Panic, Madoka Magica, Outbreak Company, and Psycho-Pass.

Not many, but I have a list even bigger than that on my plan-to-watch list.

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I'm more of a manga person personally. Currently re-reading Hajime no Ippo.

I have a myanimelist (/profile/tn5421) if you're interested :3

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MTD only has one game post in a usually busy holiday season. How does that make him scum?

Explain and I'll consider sheeping.

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Tn you're from that burning crystal hydra with <3 Titus

Yessu

That would be correct. Is there any significance to that fact?

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VOTE: Metal Sonic

I read a long time ago that scum have to force the formation of a townbloc in order to include themselves in it. That seems to be exactly what you are doing. Town would know that the bloc would happen organically.

Also FoS Om for participating in these shenanigans.

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Blocs never need to be explicitly mentioned to be formed, yet that is exactly what is happening based on the (apparently) flimsiest of reads.

Or on meta reads, which I have my own issues with.

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My early game reads have always been bad, so I know better than to rely upon them.

Also: MastinMD

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My early game reads have always been bad, so I know better than to rely upon them.

Also: MastinMD

yea but
did you consider that maybe you are just bad

It is not unlikely. But neither is my assertion.

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We can be friends out of game.

In game, you're a suspect.

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I'm not in love with you ::

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I just can't handle you loving another though.

I'm quite jealous.

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Are we gonna stop fluffposting now?

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I meant sonic, not you om.

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top

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I'm very happy, actually, thanks CooLDoG-sama

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Blocs never need to be explicitly mentioned to be formed, yet that is exactly what is happening based on the (apparently) flimsiest of reads.

How is that scummy?

Forcing blocs to form early is the best way for scum to slip into the resulting townblocs. Therefore forcing one is scummy.

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That townbloc argument sucks.

Then tell me how it sucks or stop commenting.

Shutting down discussion isn't cool either.

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Which I totally just did, oops. Don't just bleat on about how 'townbloc argument sucks'.

Make intelligent criticisms about it or pick another topic.

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It disrupts the natural order of town cooperation, making it harder for town to figure out good reads.

At least, in my opinion. I haven't had a large enough sample of games to tell how well it works in reality.

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I linked it in 137

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Sorry, quoted in 137, but i posted it in 136

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I disagree that intentionally making townblocs is a thing that should happen. Let it happen in its own or not at all.

I don't think we need to spend any longer discussing this and more time discussing the way Metal Sonic is trying to buddy/townread people in exchange for townreads in return.

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That's an obnoxious font, cooldog.

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This font is mildly less obnoxious and cool, but it's also slightly smaller than other fonts at the exact pt size. I think I should use it from now on, because it's just that awesome.

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@eyestrott: It's

comic sans ms

@Metal Sonic: Are you ever going to explain anything you do?

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That does seem suspicious to me as well but I am happy with my current vote

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@om & eyesott what do you like about tn's iso?

He has one kinda towny post

What do you dislike about my iso? This is the closest I've seen to an explanation.

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It has one kinda townie post

Can you be any more vague?

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Youll get used to it, Zombehs!
Our votes on you are anything but permanent, and can be easily alleviated by you posting something of use.

Well considering I know nothing about any of the players here, fairly little of the mechanics/terminology/nuances of this site's Mafia Games, and was generally a fairly passive bystander even on the other forums, meh.

Might as well get this out of the way then.

VOTE: Zombehs

I know that this is cancer but something in the back of my head is screaming 'hes town', even though intellectually I know self-voting is more of a scummy thing to do.

I do feel kind of bad for you, but you did have the opportunity to sign up for a newbie game too.

Zombehs is voting himself? I don't like that at all.

Do you see it as scum not playing to wincon, or town ambivalence?

I see it as frustrated town, at least this early.

@om & eyesott what do you like about tn's iso?

He has one kinda towny post

i am honestly not sure about tn
i mean
even as scum i was legitimately reading him as scum
which makes me unsure of just how easy it will be for me to read him
so im on the fence about it
i want more from him about things not theory related

Feel free to ask me anything :3

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That's fair enough. It's a new account either way, although only the admins can tell us if its an alt or not I believe.

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You know what it's also characteristic of? Newbs being uncertain what to do against perceived veterans attacking en masse.

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It's a lower priority than the higher-profile scum actions Metal Sonic is taking part in, in my opinion.

If zombehs isn't going to play, get him replaced. It really should be that simple.

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That would be correct, as that's more explicitly scummy than not trying.

If zombehs is doing this stuff still around New Year's I'm willing to vote it, but for now I'd rather keep my vote where it is.

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tn doesnt want to be

our friends and threw me under the bus

and called me scummy instead

he turned out back on us!

its ok

tn can leave if he wants, nobody is forcing him

the new townbloc is me, om and eyestott

much friendlier and conducive aye?

1: I don't mind the others; it's you that bothers me.

2: Untrue. That's only you. Again.

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I'm not liking the amount of AtE in post 272 either.

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Metal Sonic has been banned from joining any new games for two weeks due to racist posting and a pattern of abusive behavior.

Not exactly someone I want to be friends with.

Not sure what his status is for this game though, so this will probably be my last post tonight.

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Can I just say, for the damn record, could we not form a Town Bloc and let them form organically? The way it's being bandied about is giving me the mind shits.

The main person doing it is being force-replaced; hopefully we won't have to see the term thrown around again for the rest of the game. Your avatar makes me laugh, by the way.

what about the possibility that there is no arsonist and and the role is just in the game to mess with us?
remember, this game is supposedly specifically desugned to not comply to thr "meta"

Oh wow, people, you're too fast.

i think mtd is scum actually
this is 2/3 of his iso

MTD might also be having a long holiday. From what I understand, some christmas/new year celebrations go on until the 4th-5th of January. I'm willing to look into this again at that date, assuming the situation hasn't changed.

For the meantime...

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Zombehs

Please try to play the game or signify that you want to replace out.

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Stop using bold, use vote tags plskthx.

you are why we don't have standardization

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Mafia will gladly hold onto known lurkers and never kill them, so we don't really have much of a choice but to lynch it if it won't replace out. Having a lurker reach LYLO is much worse.

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Pasch there's a whole wagon on zombiez why are you only bitching about it to om?

Om has been the most vocal in pushing it for a lynch.

UNVOTE:

Feeling om's case on zombehz

eyesott is town.

Four may be trying to get rid of a pr with his push on ghost, but considering the role I don't know how concerning that is.

VOTE: zombiez cuz it's like tn but worse

So you're going to passive-aggressively insult me but not bring anything up? Okay, screw you too.

UNLESS YOU ARE EXPLICITLY READING ZOMBEHS AS TOWN YOU SHOULDNT BE DEFENDING THE WAGON

calling it a newblynch is just a fucking cop out to get yourself out of needing to form a read on him

That is complete and utter horseshit. If a lynch looks bad, I will certainly work to prevent it, even if I have a null read on its target. Meanwhile, the things you say are scummy about Zombehs aren't scummy. No matter how many times you say they are, it won't become true. You're just making up bullshit to justify your predetermined conclusion.

I feel like he's going through the motions -- asking questions, taking a couple positions -- but doesn't care what happens. Part of this comes from his overuse of qualifiers like damn and fuck; overemphasizing points that don't need that emphasis makes the emotion feel very fake.

This is an interesting point and I'm gonna go back and look at Ghost's posts with this in mind.

Om's play is really starting to bother me. I thought it was strange when he went along so readily with the townbloc thing earlier on, but how he's harping on about a lurker that still hasn't posted much is setting off alarm bells in my mind.

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You're not going against anyone in any meaningful way except when it comes to zombehs.

That's what is bothering me.

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And expect any of us to take you seriously. It's almost like you created this whole reasoning of 'I don't want to lynch lurkers Day 1' to seem Town and then went the other way to seem even more Town. At best, you're being hypocritical because you don't plan on proposing a lynch below the radar AT ALL but you want to get lurkers to contribute which is null, and at worst, this shows a desire to keep your options open, only adapting a position as long as it suits your purposes, which is scum.

So what's your better idea? Yes, it's hypocritical to threaten lurkers at the same time blasting lurker lynches. But in the absence of a better approach to lurkers, I don't see an alternative. Do you have a better idea, or are you just being a pain in the ass?

He's telling you that you can't have it both ways.

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He's telling you that you can't have it both ways.

I'm well aware, but I'm also not aware of any actual way besides prods and replacement to get inactive players to be more active. Do you? Threats are pretty much the only way, and I don't want to decide the day's lynch based on activity rather than content.

I don't know about you, but my day one reads are almost never accurate. In my view, lynching a lurker removes a known negative utility for town that still has a shot at hitting scum. Unless I can get a solid scumread on somebody today, I'd prefer the lurker lynch.

I don't understand why you want people that aren't contributing to the game to stay alive. Do you have some

possibly

misguided hope that they'll get into the game like good scummers?

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Fair enough. I'd rather them come back to post as well, but realistically I think we'll be getting replacements soon.

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It's like raunch dressing has been applied to the game.
What makes you think that the debate between tn and pasch is a town vs scum, not a town vs town or a scum vs scum?

did not care for their debate
also i meant at least one of oops
their stances and wishiwashyness on the zombeh wagon is so shit
especially tn who joined the wagon for shit reasons and then attacked me for pushing it

I do what I want.
Come at me.

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I do believe that we should lynch all lurkers but I also believe we should make use of the extremely long deadline and give other people a chance to post more.
I doubt we are going to definitively find scum today, especially not with the activity level lagging so far behind like this on day one. I can only hope that people are able to start posting after the New Year's celebration.

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We aren't really being productive anyway, since half of the playerlist isn't even engaged, so why not do this now when it will cause the least damage?

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Scum are probably already lurking through it ANYWAY.

I want people to have a legit shot at being active so that the only possibility left for anyone to believe is that they intentionally lurked the game out.

I do want to lynch the lurkers. But cutting the day too short will hurt the game in other ways, namely giving a free pass to those currently lurking out the day for no good fucking reason.

P-edit: That's a good point.

VOTE: ika

Get the fuck in here and contribute or re-up your V/LA.

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response to p-edit:
1) maybe. you're not 100% town to me.
2) I don't think that you would, but others might.
3) I apologize, only part of that criticism was aimed at you.

I

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I can sink my teeth into that argument.

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........You have a point.

I'm comfortable with Metal Sonic (or his replacement) and Zombehs (or his replacement).

I would like to hear from Ika first, though.

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You're a spamposter though so you've got 50 posts of content at best.

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You're a spamposter though so you've got 50 posts of content at best.

Us two both have fluff posts too.

I'm aware of this. Om makes it into an art form, however.

do you really think i'd let a zombehs lynch happen so fast
do you rreally think i would cut the day super short when half the playerlist hasnt posted outside RVS with any meaningful content
its hurtful you think i would be so impulsive

You've certainly been arguing in favor of these things and calling me scum for opposing you doing them. So yes, I do think those things.

if we had to lynch purely from lurkers then id go
Zombehs>MTD>FuD>Dino>Ghostlin>Four

Definitely interesting that you leave Metal Sonic out of that list. Was all of this just an attempt to diffuse the wagon there?

Metal Sonic isn't actually lurking though, he got force replaced and was on his way to being a more prolific if somewhat spamposty player. It doesn't make sense to include him in a list of pure lurker. He's my #2 lynch candidate today, which has nothing to do with him lurking.

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"I agree"

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ika for the love of god
i am not calling you lazy
stop taking this as a personal attack
you said in your post you wanted to be lazy
and i just said i didnt want you to be


VOTE: Ghostlin
im curious as to this then ika help me with this i wanna see what it leads to

im not really taking it as personal attack tbh, i just find that when people dont know my play it irks me that they assume that.

(yes i said i want to be lazy but it should also clearly state that by default im not lazy but meh)

but sure im game for a turbo-wagon
VOTE: ghost
(vote will prob move later)

also why is pasch scum over tn

tn change of vote to me to get my attention (yes im aware of your vote and i delibertly ignored it)

also tn posts a LOT less as scum (tn should recall our open game where i replaced in)

im iso phach again and so far i have seen potshot attack on players and passiveness while tn is actialy trying to do stuff

My scumteam got fucking destroyed that game.

I'm happy you're here, ika.

UNVOTE:

Now, let's repeat this process on someone else to get them to post.

tbh i think tn is one of the more wishy washy players and just all around unmemorable this game which doesnt give off great vibes to me but i get what u r trying to say so ill roll with u for now

Let's work together to pressure some lurkers into not-lurking, then.
Who the heck were you voting again? Wasn't it ghostlin?

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I would rather poke MTD \ FuDuzn \ poke zombehs again.
I'll add pressure to Ghostlin if he hasn't posted by the time i wake up (which will be like 10 hours from now)

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if we had to lynch purely from lurkers then id go
Zombehs>

MTD

>

FuD

>Dino>

Ghostlin[/b]>Four

Even you agreed earlier that you'd rather push MTD / FuD.

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NOTHING IS CONFIRMED OR DENIED

Not having an opposing faction of any kind is bastard though.

For everyone's information, the above is correct.Thus I CAN confirm that there is at least 1 (but possibly more) role that is not town aligned.

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i was never expecting the zombeh lynch to happen so soon
heck, i wasnt expecting it to even be the lynch that goes through on day 1

WTF?! It's still day one and yet you're acting like it's not?

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I feel sorry for cooldog

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I'm just hoping we don't have mafia doctors and SKs abound, since they're non-gun roles.

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SK's typically use knives or other bladed weaponry.

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Of course, this is a non-normal game so that could also not be true. But I'm betting it is, considering only one gun.

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Does bulletproof work against an SK?

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Vigis use guns

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So you think we have a lot of self-aligned roles in play, rather than a coherent faction?

I think I can get behind that; as it actually makes sense.

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@MOD:

What kinds of roles would you consider to be 'in possession' of a gun?

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baa baa black sheep
this is a proderino dodgerino

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That doesn't mean it isn't effective. After all, look at how hard Paschendale is defending Mathdino.

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Guys outguessing the mod is bad m'kay

no in bastadized games i find outguessing the mod to be the most fun thing.

hard defending every lynch choice is not a good way to garner townreads if thats what ur after

I just oppose the bad choices that are probably being pushed by scum. Are you preoccupied with being townread? Seems like the sort of thing that someone with no allies would be doing. Are you a faction all by yourself?

how about you be productive and tell us who the scum on the waogn is. you have yet to even answer half of the things om asked.

its not too late to join us and redeem youself

1)You do see that I have a vote cast, don't you? You should join me. Vote for Om.
2) She's trying very hard to find reasons to lynch people based on anything besides an analysis of their actual play and is overly concerned with other people townreading her.
3) We already have reason to think that there are solo factions in this game, such as an arsonist.
4)She's playing exactly like a third party survivor should play.
5)She's not creating actual analysis than can be used against her later and she is trying to get people onto her side.

6) Oh, and badgering people with pointless questions is a pretty scummy tactic, too. I'm hardly going to convince her of the case against her, and all it does it provide the opportunity for useless nitpicking. If you have questions about my case on her, by all means ask, but I'm not in the habit of entertaining nonsense from my scumreads.

7) Oh, and deflection. Look at the post right after yours. We have established that there are solo factions, but Om makes a joke out of it. She has no answer, just deflection.

8) And, of course, she can't actually make a good argument for why I should agree with her, so she resorts to threats and bullying.

1) no
2) called town parnanoia, ive seen players who get paranoid of buddying
3) yes we agree on that
4) survivors wincons: live to end, arson wincon: eliminate everyone
5) this goes against poitn 3 where shes paranoid of ppl town reading her
6) disagree, if i say "what is your favorite color?" is it pointless? on face-value yes, deep down no
7) we never really established it we jsut largely agree on it atm. i could point toward where you have yet to answer om orgional rebuttle if you like
8) thats not alignment indicative. if you disagree you disagree.

I think I've just found my shepard.

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It's about time we got a replacement. Gosh~

It's been a little while,

randomidget

. How do you feel about replacing into a game on day one with this many posts already made?

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I'm having the same problem, eyestott. Hopefully having some fresh replacements will give us something new to talk about.

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Pasch is too controversial to lynch right now. Any of your other proposed targets would be fine.

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Dear Lord, Titus is in the house.

The ika vs titus argument feels a bit forced to me, from both sides, although I'm looking more at ika here than Titus.

@Titus: would you mind detailing for me why you prefer to sheep paschendale, particularly against om (I swear I'm going to call him ohmbreaker by accident if you keep calling him ohm)

@ghostlin: pushing policy lynches is not in and of itself a bad thing, but there is a time and place for everything. Namely, I feel players should try to lynch their strong scumreads. Most of the current argument is about whether om is ignoring scumreads to push policy lynches, and the titus vs ika argument has a similar basis.

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You say that you've got a fine read on om implying that he is trying to rush lynches through. Would you mind quoting a post or two of what you feel are the most overt examples and walk us through how you arrived at scum!om?

Furthermore, could you explain how removing a lurker from the game can in any way considered to be a loss? It removes a negative utility player from the game, something that scum will NEVER do intentionally. I would honestly say the situation since 359 hasn't changed much. How long are we going to run around in circles before eventually deciding to lynch the most prolific lurker, anyway? Not that I'm against argument, but this one does not seem like it will be productive any time soon. We've established that you disagree about what sort of things to do on day one and that you feel anyone using a d1 theory that you aren't is your top scumread because Fucking Moon Logic. I would even say that pasch/om is doing more to slow down the game than the recent holiday season did.

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I'm saying that it could be.

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muh apathy

how much longer is om/pasch gonna be a thing before we can get back to playing?

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No thanks.

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Because there's a decent chance Titus is actually town in my mind.

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@776: I agree wholeheartedly.

@777: A restart would just contribute more to the current apathy.

@778: Because Titus is bad at getting fired up day one as town.[

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@779: That would be nice, but people are butthurt about it for some reason.

@780: Why shouldn't we lynch inactives?

@782: I'm currently reading ika as null-leaning-scum. Was reading him townish until his self-vote.

@789: Another excuse to disappear and post no content? How many times have you said this already this game?

@790: We are in full agreement, for once.

VOTE: ika

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>policy lunches

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VOTE: Titus

Policy Vote.

Dear lord, more policy lynching? Holy shit.

Also welcome to our shitty game, House.

Midget, the suspicion on Pasch has nothing to do with Om. Take a look at his votes. He defends Zombeh for self-voting, then jumps on ika when he self-votes. He hasn't done anything significant this game other than attack the reasoning others use - so his play is reactive (just sitting on the outside), inconsistent, and opportunistic (voting ika).

I don't know, I've been pretty opportunistic this game too.
I don't understand why we don't just lynch the both of them and be done with it sometimes, its like an old married couple in here.

I suppose I should have said "intentional self voting is never okay"

How does one unintentionally self-vote?

Re-read game, vote player, then realize you voted the slot you replaced into. AKA Amished.

@eyestott: stop 5-posting please.

VOTE: Flubbernugget

>votes major wagon
>0 justification

You're a part of the problem, become a part of the solution or eat some rope.

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Then why don't both you and Pasch back me up and you can get to your shitty love/hate argument tomorrow?

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1: You're welcome
2: I don't think it's a town vs town argument.
3: It doesn't, I was just adding my 2 cents. It's an awful tell anyway, Just Ask Cabd.
4: The easiest to deal with on mobile is the post tag, since it links the post without taking a lot of screen space. Second easiest is to address the player as I did. I got lazy.
5: Sounds like a plan.

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Isn't titus supposed to be on autolynch day one status anyway? I seem to remember that being a big deal when we were playing in Open 569.

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Naw fuck that im dangerous lets go

VOTE: Titus

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inb4 psychiatrist

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How exactly does Mafia Doctor imply another antitown faction? It could mean town has a vig or other killing role.

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I'm not liking the sudden momentum of this wagon even if I'm not liking eyestott's play this game.

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Ghostlin needs to get the heck in here because I have questions to ask him.

@Mod: Does this game use NAR to resolve night actions?

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This game is getting on my nerves. Can we get a prod on Ghostlin now?

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Ghostlin last posted on the 13th and hasn't been prodded why?

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I am baffled at this game.

I didn't realize this was a shit flinging contest.

VOTE: eyestott

Your 1222 was not convincing in the slightest.

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He wasn't first priority yesterday, now he is (at least in my eyes).

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I meant what I said, jester-san.

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ika slammin town the hammer

gratz

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what the fuck is your point?

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You're dead, substantiate a little more buddy. No need to hide information now.

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I'm fucking pissed off at Ghostlin literally cruising out the whole day without posting fucking once.

tl;dr you're mad that im acting exactly like everyone else then, basically, but you're scumreading me for it.

k, thanks for directing bad wagons after your death

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of course my progression of thought won't seem right, i've been limited to mobile-only for a week or so

I'm fucking pissed off at Ghostlin literally cruising out the whole day without posting fucking once.

tl;dr you're mad that im acting exactly like everyone else then, basically, but you're scumreading me for it.

k, thanks for directing bad wagons after your death

this is a major overreaction when you never even garnered a vote

it's pretty antitown to try to direct a wagon for the next day once you've been lynched.

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VOTE: Ghostlin

This is for lying low all day yesterday.

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Be uncomfortable.

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I'm beyond confused at being townread for playing in an antitown manner.

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I'm beyond confused at being townread for playing in an antitown manner.

So why are you playing in an antitown manner?

Haven't had a lot of time with internet access recently. This game is pretty heavily apathy-inducing aside from that.

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If you say so; as far as I'm concerned they are somewhat linked.

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Ghostlin totally skipped one day and is poised to skip another without posting anything what-so-ever. Why post when such a blatant antitown action is just as blatantly ignored?

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I don't mind compromising with ika's lynch if necessary because his 1277 is pretty bad.

I would rather not if we can get a better lynch, though.

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The reason I've been waiting for ghostlin is because I've been trying to figure out if he was targeted for death or not.

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My ability protects someone at night, but it costs them something if they are actually targeted.

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Tn, please full claim now.

I see no reason why he should right now.

also I know this sucks, but something came up

V/LA until sunday

I have reasons

And I have reasons to not full claim. Such a shame, isn't it, when someone plays the same excuse as you to avoid sharing information?

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why do you trust pine

[tn5421]

My protective role is strong but carries a negative utility as well.

Kinda pissed off that you outed, to be honest, pine. WTF? If you're really a doctor you fucked up. If not then randomidget has you pegged.

[tn5421]

I grant one shot bulletproof. When it's used the protected person is vanillaized.

I targeted Ghostlin night one.

[tn5421]

It only vanilaizes if the protection goes off. It's more of a grant oneshotbulletproof, whenshot:vanillaize

[tn5421]

tl;dr instead of dying you get vanilaized

[tn5421]

So that makes Vine your PR read?

[tn5421]

Super valid point from pasch

[tn5421]

If scum want to burn a possible joat on someone I get scumvibes from, I won't be too sad

[tn5421]

Probably.

[tn5421]

i may have fucked up

[tn5421]

i didn't protect him, obviously.

[tn5421]

i didn't protect him, obviously.

And you elected not to do that... why?

Because I forgot to get a pm to the nod in time

[tn5421]

should i protect random tonight?

like, actually protect someone for the first time since night 1?

guess i can at least follow the cop for now

VOTE: flubbernugget

[tn5421]

I suppose we'll find out tonight.

[tn5421]

VOTE: ika

Turns out that you get your report and then lose the ability.

[tn5421]

Even if I do protect pasch and he is targeted for death, pasch will get tonight's result, whatever that happens to be. So it's worth taking the protection to get that last check / night action in if we can wrap the game up today/tomorrow.

[tn5421]

So I'm protecting pasch. Sounds legit.

[tn5421]

Stop being mad and focus on the positive. Like the fact the apathy will be over soon.

[tn5421]

I'm sad at how this game went for my team >~<