Open 633: Near Vanilla-GAME OVER

[Killthestory]

K I don't even need to fucking read more, Oliy is clearly scum.

Ranger is the type of motherfucker to hard defend his scum buds, I've seen it in action. His reads are good, he'll supply bomb ass reads that are right to throw people off. He gives off good ass reads, but his most important reads are wrong. He always pushes the wrongest reads as scum, but the rest of them are right.

BODYCAST ON THE STRETCHER

that's what he did with Ollie. He was pushing for a motherfuckin mislynch and keeping Ollie off the table, and she would have instant fucking won my dude. Holy fuck, I should have seen it, but she fucking buddied Ollie so god damn hard while Ollie tried to distance. Failed, weak attempts against Ranger because he never pushed him when it mattered and his case was absolute A S S .

I PRAY MY DICK GET BIG AS THE EIFFEL TOWER

Tl;dr Ranger buddied hella with Ollie, time to ISO him

[Killthestory]

VOTE: jmo16mla

Panicking already, look at his face.

LOOK AT THIS SHIT, ALREADY SETTING UP HIS MISLYNCH AYYYYY

VOTE: KTthecreeper

try hard scum

another mislynch lets go

F#ckin vampires, always out to taste my sweet townie blood.

Nosferatu what's your take on what's happened so far?

foprced

no, I'm saying that your question did not specifically ask for me to explain my vote and therefore I didn't explain it. It is completely normal for me to put a vote down and not explain it until prompted. In Game Shop Mafia, I put a vote down on davesaz and didn't explain it until I was asked much much later. If you want something from me, ask me directly and don't bullshit me with evidently purposefully vague questions in hope that I would answer what you want me to.

You're saying my question was too vague now. You're seriously telling me that you thought the answer I was looking for was what you thought had happened minus the thing that had attracted your attention the most?

forced

Magna is going to be annoying as hell, but, unfortunately, is town.

why?

KT is town.

why?

Imp, you're town.

why?

DOUBTING ALL THESE CORRECT READS WHOA DUDE CALM DOWN

acryon advocated a KainTepes policy lynch & has done nothing else.

ANTOER SETUP MISLYNCH BOISM, BUT THIS TIME HES ALSO HARD DEFENDING HIS SCUMBUD AYYYYYYYYYY

Quick I need more votes on me, or I'll be scumread late game for not being pressured enough!

Ocean if you don't vote for me I'm going to death tunnel you

Just vote me for fucks sakes

God fucking dammit no one's voting me

ay you got a problem here?

When I tell people "thanks" for naked voted its scum.

and I love how "my existence hurts the town" when I literately posted 4 times. The only way you could have a chance of reading someone in 4 post is either if they post a screen shot of their role PM or if you have played 10+ games with them.

Now I'm going to reread the game cringe a little and give my thought on this game.

I'm going to laugh when people say this post is "OMG OBV SCUM LYNCH NOW" I'm just trying to set the record straight that I was experimenting a little so if you find I'm scum with this post then by all means lynch me I could not care less. I mean if I react negative to a vote its scum, if I react positive its scum, if I don't react at all its scum, I don't know anymore.

LOOK AT THIS SHTI

MY D A DOUBLE D G

UNVOTE: KTthecreeper

I'll judge you on your scum hunting, let's see what you've got.

A
YAY
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Subject to massive change & IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER, so don't go getting smug Magna etc..

Town Leans

MagnaofIllusion

- pushing people hard, asking the right questions, seems healthily suspicious of every player in the game, which I like.

KTthecreeper

- early wagon puts me off when I mesh that with the explanation for the early vote & the accounts of early KT wagons being common.

OceanWind

- had alot of the same questions for Nos as me & articulated some good stuff that I couldn't, so I don't see that as riding on my coat tails.

ChurchofMercy

- coulda tried to stick the knife in when I was coming under fire, but said they supported me with no messing about. Wants killthestory to scum hunt, join the club.

Null

Acryon

- Bad start but I was right to give him a chance to do something. That something was a great point about Nosferatu. He's pretty much scum reading my town leans list, but hey great point.

jmo

- liked that he had a problem with Lowell's early town read but not much else to go on

Killthestory

- no content to read

Lowell

- his play has been mostly gathering allies, which I don't read either way

Imperium

- unsure, not just gonna scum read him for that nonsense about Nosferatu's point being the best yet or whatever but he's an inbetweener atm.

Scum Leans

Bellaphant

- Hedging her bets in the little she's posted.

Nosferatu

- How long have you got? I'm not convinced yet though. I'm not fucking Lowell am I.

Who have I missed off that list? Can't work out who is playing under a different name.

I can see alot of switching around so no one get pissy me me or I'll cut u.

ALL THE IMPORTANT SCUMREADS A RE

DE A RA D

[Killthestory]

Time to check out this dudes later ISO, gonna look at a coumple post because i dont fucking care

[Killthestory]

if you can recall i had my vote on Jim for the better part of Day 2

wait wtf, you've been null/town on that slot all along, & you were town reading Jim?

DONT YOU TRY AND PUSH A MISLYNCH ON MY BDUEDNUY DBOI

My reads look something like this atm...

Killthestory, OceanWind, MagnaofIllusion, Imperium
RadiantCowbells
Nosferatu, Massive
Virtue
Lowell, Ranger

Although RC & Virtue are where they are from my Severa (who might as well have been a different player) & Bella reads, harder to get a read on their 'replacements'. Nos I'm unsure about atm. Ranger's responses have been good lately but the Snarky scum read is convenient & I'd like to see how I read Lowell's replacement so my vote stays.

AY LOOK A MISLYNCH, ANOTHER MOOTHERFOOKIN MISLYNCH, RANGER WHOS HES HARD DISTANCING BC HES UNDER PRESSURE, NOS WHOS NULL (weird) AND THEN EZ TOWNEREADS WHAT

UNVOTE:

Why did you vote Ranger while still having questions you wanted to resolve?

My vote doesn't end the day so what on earth are you going on about?

yeah his vote doesnt end day get on his fucking level

inb4 imperium/ollie/rach scumteam sweep

Was this a serious comment? If so why did you think that?

After ISOing you I get the impression you were town reading Ranger until the hammer & yesterday. Is that true?

this coulda been communication with a scum team member...

If you're not getting anything out of this, you should probably stop doing that and try something else.

WHY WONT YOU DEFEND YOURSELF

COMMUNICATION

DEFEND YOURSELF SCUM DEFEND YOURSELF

[Killthestory]

tl;dr ollie is town

[Killthestory]

the hell is town rn?

[Killthestory]

yo hold up tell me what you see, is it money or its me

anyway, time to see whos alive

[Killthestory]

vote count 5.02

Titus (0): none
MagnaofIllusion (0): none
Imperium (0): none
Killthestory (1): MagnaofIllusion
Nosferatu (0): none
RachMarie (0): none
Ollie (0): none
No Lynch (0): none
not voting: Titus, Imperium, Killthestory, Nosferatu, RachMarie, Ollie
with 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch
day 5 has begun, it will end in (expired on 2016-06-20 16:00:00)

k so we got these motherfuckers alive, aight.

alright, so ranger scum. ez.

imperium, me, rach, moi, town. ez.

ollie conf town, ez

nos titus scum, ez?

[Killthestory]

time to ISO, let's go

[Imperium]

Hey Ollie - where did your exchange with Titus go? Why did you decide to drop it?

[Killthestory]

ayy titus

had literally no idea it was you

So the comments about VCA needing a scumslip were a coincidence?

motherfuckas listen

NOS AND TITUS AINT ALIGNED TOGETHER BECAUSE I KNOW TITUS WOULDNT HIT SOMEONE WHOS SAME ALIGNMENT LIKE THIS FOR OUT OF GAME REASONING

i call the shots
call the cops

I TOLD THAT BITCH LIKE NA HW AY

That Micro game where you flaked as scum really supports that position too ...

Oh, right, now that you bring it up...does this Killthestory feel like the same Killthestory-as-Kanbei from that game?

It doesn't to me.

Here we go. It was KTS not Magna, Ranger was reconsidering. I think I misspoke there. It was Magna making the point though.

ranger wasunt na h a rteconsidering lam oa

got so many shades they thought i had a lazy eye

I didn't specify town reads. I just asked you to explain your reads. It doesn't seem like there's anything behind your townreads other than "they just seem like town" which doesn't make any sense to me because there has to be a reason why their posts made you feel that way.

I don't really buy into "tonal reads" but if you want to want to elaborate on your non-town reads, I'd like to hear them.

when I get a proper scum read I'll make sure to consult you.
UNVOTE:

So at this point you have no reads?

hittin' him hard, not same alignment

I'M A SPAZ ON YO ASS LIKE ONMEOAN

Ranger, Talk to me. Why haven't you asked me shit? I am going on vla soon. Need to get those questions in.

huh

Yeah I am not believing Masq is that dumb. It does look like a rolefish. I am only hesitating because I don't want to rush things.

shit this be like ," i want ta mislynch but im a hesitate to make it look like im considering it."

*pokes you to my question* I need guidance

wait for it

VOTE: Masq

You got me there. The rolefish really hit the desperation note but it didn't seem like desperate town. More like nightkill hunting.

P.S. Trolling one liners are hard as fuck for me to read KTS.

@Imperium, I submitted a VLA for us too.

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[Killthestory]

yo what happene to my shit ay what?

[Killthestory]

much better

[Killthestory]

nos felt like town with his dumbie headedness so im leaving him as town

gonna see what ranger did to titus and shit

[Imperium]

smokin on the finest dope ayayayaa

[Killthestory]

smokin on the finest dope ayayayaa

thats the spirit

Shoddy bad ass hell, shoddy want to kiss me, but i know she sukcing dik

[Killthestory]

What do you think of our exchange on OceanWind/Rach? What do you think about Ollie?

Well it comes down at least partially to your analysis versus MagnaofIllusions, and bluntly...your analysis is done independently of my alignment, whereas MagnaofIllusion's relies heavily on a premise which is inherently false. So given that? I'd buy OceanWind/RachMarie as town and Ollie as scum.

I mostly asked about Killthestory and Titus though, because regardless of which in {RachMarie, Ollie} is scum, both Titus and Killthestory are scum, and thus, safer lynches to make.

OH SHIT BUT RANGER WAS PUSHING A TITUS LYNCH WHAT.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN

AND I THINK THAT BITCH FROM CANADA, I THINK SHE FROM THE SITH

I'd be happier if you didn't do this; I'm currently townreading both Nosferatu and RachMarie (who are in your top 2), and Ranger's responses to me haven't been at all what I expected if she was scum

Nosferatu as town is a given, but if you think I could be town and think Rach is town, what's your guess for a scumteam? {Titus, Ollie, Killthestory}?
OPH SHIT BUT RANGER NEVER BUSSES SO T I T US IS TOWN

LETS LOOK AT HIS READS ON NOS
At this point it's pretty much a given Titus and Killthestory have to be scum since I haven't been hammered. The only question I would have is on the third. How sure are you that RachMarie is town? Enough to risk the game on?

[Killthestory]

BREAKING NEWS, RANGER PUSHED TITUS

BREAKING NEWS

[Killthestory]

[Killthestory]

Serious question I want to ask to MagnaofIllusion and Imperium.
How receptive are you to the idea of lynching Killthestory today?
How receptive are you to the idea of lynching Titus today?

L O O K A T IT

@Ranger, Why did you suddenly clear Nos?

Nothing sudden about it. Nosferatu has been one of my strongest townreads since half-way through D2.

OH THERE IT IS

NOS IS CONF SUCM CUM CUMCSCUM HES SCUM

[Killthestory]

so nos and ollie are town and titus and me are scum btw

[Imperium]

Tammy, when you read up please help me rope Nos or explain where I am wrong.

This seems like a strong read. Where did it go?

Yeah I am not believing Masq is that dumb. It does look like a rolefish. I am only hesitating because I don't want to rush things.

How was Masq saying "unless someone could stop a kill - don't say anything!" a rolefish in any sense of the word? What possible response could there be for a power role who reads what Masq says and somehow manages to out themselves?

Magna,

Ollie is obvscum at this point. His retreat from me when no one bought his push is pretty strong scum. He's pushing a meta read despite not having any background with me to base it on. He also never pushed meta reads till this point.

I'm leaning Nos or Imperium as the last, but I lack confidence there. I thought Now and Masq were obvious partners but Masq flipped town. So that means I should reanalyze Nos. Imperium is Burden of Profiency.

Titus, where did your Ollie obvscum read go?
Can you explain how the hell your "Burden of Proficiency" read makes sense?

@Nosferatu, Are you claiming to be townreading Ranger or something? At some point we're going to lynch Ranger if we're all convinced she's scum. This thread is exhausting as hell. Lynching obvscum AND forcing scum to make the next move is a win in my book. Your no lynching just delays the inevitable. A no lynch should be done when in mylo + there is no obvious scum or obvious unprotected town.

Cool that you're willing to point out the obvious, but where's the part where you're looking for scum?

@Imperium, Umm both? I'm surprised you didn't hit scum. The CoM lynch was null as you had no way of knowing how ABR was acting. But by Day 4 and not a scum lynch, why hasn't Imperium lead one? Why are they alive? Is it something they are missing entirely, or are they just scum? Or both. I'm struggling a bit with it because I also think Imperium scum would off the PRs much sooner unless there was a massive pattern in the dead suspecting you, and I don't see that.

So I'm rather confused at this point.

This whole agonizing whether we're town or not but not taking any steps to sort us doesn't really work for me; Ranger tried something similar when we were lurkfucking it up, but when we started posting and fighting back, she backed down. If you actually thought that there was a pretty great chance that we were scum (and controlling the game to the extent that we have been), I can't help but think that you'd be pushing it a bit harder so you could make our position a bit less comfortable. Am I wrong?

I feel better about RachMarie but my conftown read doesn't and I don't get why.

"I have a townread. The confirmed town doesn't agree with my townread so now I don't have a townread."
Why? Magua being conftown doesn't mean that he's infallible; why not engage with him instead of burning your townread to the ground entirely? Where did the confidence on Ollie go in this readslist?

which is probably a small part of the explanation for why we aren't dead

Also helping is that MagnaofIllusion says he jailkept you every night, a detail Titus specifically asked for, yet has apparently conveniently forgotten in her accusation against you.

She didn't forget it; the fact that there has not been a no kill night means we haven't been shot at, which is what she finds weird.

This. Or that scum Imperium's team never sent her for the kill.

That brings me back to if Imperium is scum, the team needs a second face type role. That would lead to Ranger scum.

The weird kills suggest Ranger scum.

Ranger hasn't been in the game the whole time. Why do you think I would let Ranger decide kills over me when I've been running the shit out of the game if scum?

[Killthestory]

This is the part where, if I was scum, I'd self-hammer to just end the day.
I'm not.
VOTE: Killthestory.

What do you think of our exchange on OceanWind/Rach? What do you think about Ollie?

Well it comes down at least partially to your analysis versus MagnaofIllusions, and bluntly...your analysis is done independently of my alignment, whereas MagnaofIllusion's relies heavily on a premise which is inherently false. So given that? I'd buy OceanWind/RachMarie as town and Ollie as scum.

I mostly asked about Killthestory and Titus though, because regardless of which in {RachMarie, Ollie} is scum, both Titus and Killthestory are scum, and thus, safer lynches to make.

RANGER'S READS TURNED US TO A MISLYNCH, SO HE MUST BE SCUM. HIS READS ARE WRONG, AND HIS READS ARE NEVER WRONG, SO HE MUST BE SCUM.

^Btw, Killthestory already knows this isn't true.

He's also at this point intentionally misgendering me.

Serious question I want to ask to MagnaofIllusion and Imperium.
How receptive are you to the idea of lynching Killthestory today?
How receptive are you to the idea of lynching Titus today?

I'd be happier if you didn't do this; I'm currently townreading both Nosferatu and RachMarie (who are in your top 2), and Ranger's responses to me haven't been at all what I expected if she was scum

Nosferatu as town is a given, but if you think I could be town and think Rach is town, what's your guess for a scumteam? {Titus, Ollie, Killthestory}?

At this point it's pretty much a given Titus and Killthestory have to be scum since I haven't been hammered. The only question I would have is on the third. How sure are you that RachMarie is town? Enough to risk the game on?

Imperium haven't posted in over 4 days, were they on V/LA or what?

I'm pretty sure Tammy is going through some sort of difficulty, and also reasonably certain Nacho's had some restriction this whole game.

You clearly aren’t.

RadiantCowbell's combined iso is 154 very long posts. I'm sure I could find something if I read every one in detail, but I don't have that amount of willpower. massive has 16 posts. All I see is a willingness to work with me, willingness to work with RachMarie's slot, lack of desire to lynch me, suspicion on Titus, maybe some suspicion on you, possible suspicion on Killthestory, and townreading Imperium, nothing conclusive. He wasn't obviously town, I don't see any posts that could be interpreted as PR crumbs (though to be fair I'd also need to check his predecessor there), if massive has a reputation I'm unaware of it, so if it's anything, it'd be {accurate reads, status quo, not likely protect}. That's the best I've got.

For Xisi, I've isoed him many times. The only things I see are a townread on Imperium and a scumread on Tituslot, maybe one on Killthestory. He wasn't obviously town, I don't see how he could be seen as a PR (though I'd again need to check his predecessor to be sure), if Xisiqomelir has a reputation I'm unaware of it, there's not much there in regards to relevant reads, so all I've got there is {status quo, not likely protect}.

I've been going over Xisi's since D3, maybe even late D2. Every time, trying to take something from it, every time, finding nothing definitive. Feel free to iso the dead yourself and tell me what I missed.

Probably about time for you to make one of your patented “Goodbye messages to your partners” I’ve seen before.

Literally never done this in any completed game. Best not to talk about that further, though you should probably try reading games instead of skimming them.

[Killthestory]

RANGER TRIED TO MISLYNCH TITUS THEY'RE TOWN IT'S OLLIE AND NOS CONF

[RachMarie]

so join us in voting for Ollie