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Post #7 (isolation #0) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:09 am
Postby JunkoChan »
Hell there, this is my third(?) game I think in this site but I'm a big fan of mafia and forums games in general, I'm glad I can play again with GuiltyLion!
My first experience got kinda gutted by boring SE's I hope things change this time around.
btw I like you, but I don't like being voted for no reason :3 VOTE: the worst
I
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Post #10 (isolation #1) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:58 am
Postby JunkoChan »
In post 8, the worst wrote:I'm judging.
why don't you like being voted in rvs?
because it's the same as being voted for no reason, I get it tho rvs is rvs
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In post 7, JunkoChan wrote:Hell there, this is my third(?) game I think in this site
You don't say. I see like 10 games in your profile.
Stalker alert, I did sign up for some games but I only got posts in 2 real mafia games and 1 from gmm
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In post 7, JunkoChan wrote:Hell there, this is my third(?) game I think in this site
You don't say. I see like 10 games in your profile.
Stalker alert, I did sign up for some games but I only got posts in 2 real mafia games and 1 from gmm
I just looked at your join date and wondered why you're still playing newbie games
fair enough, I banished for about a year
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Post #20 (isolation #4) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:00 pm
Postby JunkoChan »
In post 18, GuiltyLion wrote:can you newbies get avatars to make it easier to recognize all of you?
Please
So we are only waiting for JoeyG177 here for the entire roster correct?
VOTE: JoeyG177 Bell ringing, are you in for the ride?
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My stalking sskills are not strong enough I guess, jokes aside my vote is just attention calling for the most part but I guess there no point to it if he hasn't even read his pm, no better place to put my vot atm tho.[/quote]
Mod - can we have a vote count? I wanna see another purty picture
This post does seem weird, like there is literally one pages and <10 votes, this is extreme laziness or a post just to post.
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In post 25, JunkoChan wrote:This post does seem weird, like there is literally one pages and <10 votes, this is extreme laziness or a post just to post.
Do you think it was scummy of Wazoo to make this post? Assuming it's just a post for the sake of posting for a sec.
Stands out as weird yes
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Post #32 (isolation #7) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:41 pm
Postby JunkoChan »
@the worst sounds like mafia to me in other words
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Post #33 (isolation #8) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:41 pm
Postby JunkoChan »
or a very lost townie
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Post #34 (isolation #9) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:42 pm
Postby JunkoChan »
btw UNVOTE:
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Post #36 (isolation #10) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:47 pm
Postby JunkoChan »
Clarification I don't mind random voting, I don't like being voted for no reason, I had a reason he was still inactive
about the logic behind that, people asking for mechanics rather than focusing on what's going on more often than not are scum gaining time
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Post #37 (isolation #11) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:49 pm
Postby JunkoChan »
About not voting snow, he recently got added he might not even know that he is in the game yet, willing to vote for him if he doesn't speak tho, (tbh I'm against replacements)
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Post #43 (isolation #12) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:20 pm
Postby JunkoChan »
In post 42, YellowSnow wrote:I also don't like Chan being against replacements. What's the alternative.
I was talking about rhis recently, modkills are better imo, i'm okay with tour replaxement cuz it was an early one, but mis game end gane replacements are so annoying.
Just a personal thought
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In post 42, YellowSnow wrote:I also don't like Chan being against replacements. What's the alternative.
I was talking about rhis recently, modkills are better imo, i'm okay with tour replaxement cuz it was an early one, but mis game end gane replacements are so annoying.
Just a personal thought
Modkills being better than replacements is definitely scum mindset. Replacements are more likely to town especially early on.
Like i said is a personal thought, first game I played had like 7 replacements and it just came up as annoying to me
In post 36, JunkoChan wrote:Clarification I don't mind random voting, I don't like being voted for no reason, I had a reason he was still inactive
about the logic behind that, people asking for mechanics rather than focusing on what's going on more often than not are scum gaining time
I understand the logic behind this, but IMO this is scum trying to gain an early game town read on the players by "scumhunting". I lost my original type up for why I explained this right when I was about to send it (yay mobile thank you for so much >_>) so this one wont be as detailed but imma try my best to remember my old points. anyways I think this is scum because in JunkoChan words scum is "gaining time" or in otherwords stalling, but scum wouldnt benefit from stalling day 1 of all days especially when we have 8 days left in the DL. Scum would benefit from getting early game townreads/allowing the game to let them townlead which I think JunkoChan is trying to do. At first I thought this was to shift attention and votes off moonythedwarf, who has the most votes at the moment but now that I look at it its too early into day 1 to consider a shift like that, so for now I'll just stick with Mafia trying to gain early game town cred. You could make the arguement that this post was filler or just there to make a post but I doubt mafia would filler early game because they know just as much as we do rn about who is what (in other words very little) so they need to use their time wisely in order to get as much information as possible before we as a Town lynch them.
gain time as in post to not get proded
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In post 36, JunkoChan wrote:Clarification I don't mind random voting, I don't like being voted for no reason, I had a reason he was still inactive
about the logic behind that, people asking for mechanics rather than focusing on what's going on more often than not are scum gaining time
I'd be really interested to find out why it struck you that this might be a thing that he's doing as scum. You're more or less right, in that when people over-focus on mechanics at the expense of scumhunting, it's often because they're scum who don't want to fake reads.
What do you make of the fact that his request for a vote count was his fourth post, which came after an rvs vote and his questions @ you about your history? I'm trying to see if I can insert my brain behind your eyes and read his posts the way you're reading them. Talk me through how you went through parsing his first four posts and reached the "mechanics focus, probably scum" conclusion?
In post 42, YellowSnow wrote:I also don't like Chan being against replacements. What's the alternative.
I was talking about rhis recently, modkills are better imo, i'm okay with tour replaxement cuz it was an early one, but mis game end gane replacements are so annoying.
Just a personal thought
From a theory point of view I'd strongly disagree, and suggest it's pretty far from the way MS approaches balancing games.
At a mechanical/fairness level, games need to be balanced in a way that either faction can afford to win. if town has an important power role who is vital to balance, but can't play due to commitments, a game becomes heavily scumsided by their being modkilled.
But also, in a perfect world there wouldn't be replacements, I agree.
I should not post while sleepy I make a lot of typos
you said he had 4 posts, while true let me break them up to you
1 rvs vote
2 off topic discussion about my time in the page
1 vote count after 1 page???
so he basicly has 1 post and one weird post from my pov
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In post 55, JunkoChan wrote:I should not post while sleepy I make a lot of typos
you said he had 4 posts, while true let me break them up to you
1 rvs vote
2 off topic discussion about my time in the page
1 vote count after 1 page???
so he basicly has 1 post and one weird post from my pov
don't worry about it Typos Happen
let's work through your thoughts on his discussion about your time onsite/mafia history - do you think this comes from someone who doesn't know your alignment and wants to get a gauge of how you play the game to discern your alignment? or do you think it's more likely to come from someone who already knows your alignment?
At the beginning I thought he tried to gauge me, but after that post his words sound more like he wants to make sure if I'm strong or weak while already knowing my alignment to pick up on who might be a better possible "newbie" target is my guess, this is all a stretch and probably would call it a hunch more than anything, that's why I didn't vote him right away.
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Post #60 (isolation #16) » Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:41 am
Postby JunkoChan »
In post 59, the worst wrote:Hmm okay. How do you feel about yellowsnow and GuiltyLion?
about yellowsnow, I'm leaning towards town cuz he seems to be genuinely scumhunting although he missunderstood some things I said
about Guiltylion I got null cuz even though he agreed with me about grandwazoo's post he backed down after one post from grandwazoo, and hasn't said much since then, also appealing to simpathy with a post like #18 makes my spider sense go hmmmm
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In post 36, JunkoChan wrote:Clarification I don't mind random voting, I don't like being voted for no reason, I had a reason he was still inactive
about the logic behind that, people asking for mechanics rather than focusing on what's going on more often than not are scum gaining time
I understand the logic behind this, but IMO this is scum trying to gain an early game town read on the players by "scumhunting". I lost my original type up for why I explained this right when I was about to send it (yay mobile thank you for so much >_>) so this one wont be as detailed but imma try my best to remember my old points. anyways I think this is scum because in JunkoChan words scum is "gaining time" or in otherwords stalling, but scum wouldnt benefit from stalling day 1 of all days especially when we have 8 days left in the DL. Scum would benefit from getting early game townreads/allowing the game to let them townlead which I think JunkoChan is trying to do. At first I thought this was to shift attention and votes off moonythedwarf, who has the most votes at the moment but now that I look at it its too early into day 1 to consider a shift like that, so for now I'll just stick with Mafia trying to gain early game town cred. You could make the arguement that this post was filler or just there to make a post but I doubt mafia would filler early game because they know just as much as we do rn about who is what (in other words very little) so they need to use their time wisely in order to get as much information as possible before we as a Town lynch them.
UNVOTE: ceejayvinoya VOTE: JunkoChan
By the way, YellowSnow what do you mean by trying to gain newbie sympathy? It seemed like a random vote that you need to explain more imo I'd like more detail on what exactly you mean.
how did you feel about this post?--can you see where the perspective clashes come from etc.? Feel free to talk through a few points which like evoke a strong reaction from you. I was curious to see how you'd take this kinda push.
I understand the logic behind this, but IMO this is scum trying to gain an early game town read on the players by "scumhunting"- This is what every mafia player does regardless of alignment so feels like a forced read
anyways I think this is scum because in JunkoChan words scum is "gaining time" or in otherwords stalling- like I already said it fels like he missunderstood my point, stalling is not the same as just posting for the sake of it
I can see where he is coming from tho so doesn't strike me as odd
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Post #101 (isolation #18) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:00 pm
Postby JunkoChan »
Posting in a few hours, just came back home tired from holiday stuff, read the poke pm.
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In post 73, moonythedwarf wrote:Voting for being a derp is rude.
Aaaanyways, why are you so insistent on voting me in the first place? Hmm? VOTE: GrandWazoo
I'm inclined to vote moony, but would like to have a read list from his part
@moony, can you do that?
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Post #120 (isolation #20) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:19 am
Postby JunkoChan »
host, how much time till moony and ceeja get replaced?
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Post #122 (isolation #21) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:00 am
Postby JunkoChan »
well
Grandwazoo leaning scum I can't see Grandwazoo busing his teammate so I can't see him on the same team as moony sadly, his eagerness to finish someone who barely posted screams scum to me
nineja leaning town nothing particularly weird from him, good not invasive logic
YellowSnow townread
the worst null you've been asking a lot but I would like a more concrete vision of the game from an IC, I know it's still early but some words of wisdom from your continuos questioning would be nice
GuiltyLion null where you at man? hasn't posted as much to have a clear vision of what he is up to
I think those are all the actual posters, ceeja technically posted once I think, divided in 4 posts probably town tho
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By this logic we can only push players who actively play. Note to scum: keep quiet and Junko will totes townread you.
You see, this is the kind of poison scum would say.
1. the worst specifically asked me for "posting players" nad tbh I can't have an opinion for players who aren't even playing the game, I left a few questions for them but I guess they will be replaced before they can answer
2. Taking action is not the same thing you are doing, you are pushing a lynch and saying WE GOT NO TIME, when that's far from truth
Now I'm more inclined to lynch you
putting my votes where my mouth is from now on. VOTE: GrandWazoo
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Post #132 (isolation #23) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:11 pm
Postby JunkoChan »
fucked up coding there.
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Post #201 (isolation #25) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:10 pm
Postby JunkoChan »
we can probably safely say brass is town for now (not that we really have an option tho) unless something radical happens before the deadline
@tw sorry for being stubborn or "vain" but I really think GW is a better lynch than nineja, your post made me backtrack a bit about him but I firmly believe this is mafia
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Post #203 (isolation #26) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:25 pm
Postby JunkoChan »
My best argument for the case is on 131, you see, opposite to nineja's logic against me, the post I quoted from him has an emotional tone, a frustrating tone in fact, and then he twisted my words to post what should never be posted in any mafia game: "this person will townread you if you afk"
I can elaborate more on this if you need to but I think I would just be repeating myself
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more accurate, I want to keep track on this current vote list because is interesting to me that the votes are so scattered, might help to pint point teams later on
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Post #220 (isolation #29) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:27 am
Postby JunkoChan »
In post 219, brassherald wrote:Junko, can I get an idea of where your mind is on Grandwazoo and GuiltyLion?
tbh I can see a mafia team between GW-the worst GW-GL
GuiltyLion hasn't said enough for me to get a townfeeling from him
If GW flips town (which i doubt) then there are some things to re-evaluate
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In post 232, brassherald wrote:Look, from what I have seen, we can lynch about 5 of the players for lack of real interest, right now I would prefer to take a measured risk against people I have a chance to read correctly and have more NKA and associatives to work with on Day 2 than lynch people uninvolved just for the sake of their being uninvolved.
t h i s
over the last year if there's one thing i've learned about lynching day one:
if you make a "compromise lynch" day one, town is substantially less likely to win.
you gain no information from lynching someone due to low activity. the only real reason to lynch based on low activity, IMO, is if everyone who is posting seems to be town.
I can agree with this train of thought, basicly what I was arguing against GW earlier, we can't base our lynch today on activity alone
I still don't see a good reason to vote nineja, but for that same reason I don't want to put him at L-1 here
p-edit @Yellow this is also true and will get more apparent if that's the case, but defending lurking scum buddies is a extremely risky move
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Post #246 (isolation #32) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:22 pm
Postby JunkoChan »
wait ninjea is not at L-2 mixed the votes with GW
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Post #248 (isolation #33) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:27 pm
Postby JunkoChan »
In post 247, the worst wrote:@Junko, do you townread Nineja?
I noticed your comment about "good non invasive logic" (sorry if i'm miswording here). do you think that's town indicative & could you talk me thru what about his posts you found towny?
sorry for overquestioning, i'm just not seeing it. i think it's one of those things where it's easy to see his long posts and go "wow he's playing the game" but the more i'm reading them the more i'm just...not seeing a town mindset there...
can we do the opposite? you tell me what screams scum about them? let me be the phicologist for once
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Post #249 (isolation #34) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:28 pm
Postby JunkoChan »
And yes I do townread him
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Post #264 (isolation #36) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:02 pm
Postby JunkoChan »
UNVOTE: give me time to read 259 more carefully at home, few hours till I'm there
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In post 36, JunkoChan wrote:Clarification I don't mind random voting, I don't like being voted for no reason, I had a reason he was still inactive
about the logic behind that, people asking for mechanics rather than focusing on what's going on more often than not are scum gaining time
I understand the logic behind this, but IMO this is scum trying to gain an early game town read on the players by "scumhunting". I lost my original type up for why I explained this right when I was about to send it (yay mobile thank you for so much >_>)
i really didn't take much of an exception to this when i first read thru it but when i try to read it out loud in some kind of nineja voice it doesn't...flow? tone isn't a blatant scumtell in and of itself but i think this is really heavily overdramatised/overcompensated and it doesn't feel natural. natural tonality is more of a newbtown tell than lack of it being a newbscum tell but it's something.
at face value suggesting junko ?could? be scum for breaking out of rvs by pushing back against grandwazoo is ok but i don't think someone with a towny mindset reflects heavily on this, writes up a detailed post, accidentally deletes it, and then writes up another detailed post and posts it without reality checking this read. just off the top of my head a couple of things which i kinda feel like people should come up with pretty quickly when asking themselves "is junko town for this? is junko scum for this?" (or at least variations of these points)
1) by end of page 1 grandwazoo had already given off the impression of being an active poster/unlikely an easy mislynch--why would scum!junko pick him of everyone to fake scumhunt?
2) is her stance actually more likely to come from scum > town? it's probably fair to call it a pretty null/disinteresting issue to have long term, which i've talked to, but at a point in the game where there's nearly no information the fresh perspective junko showed in 36 was actually pretty town indicative imo.
instead he just...reacts assuming that she's town and chainsaws her for calling our grandwazoo
given the amount of time he's spent on this case & rewriting it i'm not convinced this is trying to short junko
About this posts I had a similar reaction that made me go hmmm, but then I re-read what I posted and knew where he was coming from and how my actions could be seen as scummy
In post 45, Nineja wrote:so this one wont be as detailed but imma try my best to remember my old points. anyways I think this is scum because in JunkoChan words scum is "gaining time" or in otherwords stalling, but scum wouldnt benefit from stalling day 1 of all days especially when we have 8 days left in the DL.
this is probably ok but refer above. it's just strange that he'd think through this himself while assuming junko is both scum, and scum so silly that she tried to lol-mislynch someone sod1 without paying attention to the timer. this reads closer to posturing than to sorting.
same as above
In post 45, Nineja wrote:Scum would benefit from getting early game townreads/allowing the game to let them townlead which I think JunkoChan is trying to do. At first I thought this was to shift attention and votes off moonythedwarf, who has the most votes at the moment but now that I look at it its too early into day 1 to consider a shift like that, so for now I'll just stick with Mafia trying to gain early game town cred. You could make the arguement that this post was filler or just there to make a post but I doubt mafia would filler early game because they know just as much as we do rn about who is what (in other words very little) so they need to use their time wisely in order to get as much information as possible before we as a Town lynch them.
this is waffly/overexplained again but absolutely lacks the substance you kinda wanna see from someone who's written out a detailed case then deleted it then rewritten it
i'd contest this is transparently posturing regardless of alignment; this could be expressed in about 3 sentences.
now this is overeacting, at this point nineja already settled and didn't push this train of thought anymore because maybe he realised how silly it was
In post 45, Nineja wrote:By the way, YellowSnow what do you mean by trying to gain newbie sympathy? It seemed like a random vote that you need to explain more imo I'd like more detail on what exactly you mean.
this was probably my favourite part of his post on initial read but going by reread i think it comes from either alignment pretty readily.
yellowsnow's response was good imo.
In post 48, computerfan0 wrote:I'll just vote for Nineja, as there is no real way to make an informed decision
VOTE: Nineja
Rather than just place a vote somewhere because info isn't coming to you it would be better used if you took that vote and went to go find info yourself. While I'm on the topic and since this is the first time that you've talked (that I know of if you talked before I'm sorry) computerfan0 What do you think of JunkoChan? I'd like to specifically hear what you have to say about them since that vote came at such a weird time.
reactionarily guilting computerfan0 for voting him is pretty null as well, but definitely doesn't give me reason to think he's town.
reaching out about junko is actually pretty good but the overjustification is incredibly stiff and i think the fact he's nervously swinging back to the vote tonally is guilty conscious indicative (sorry, this is a little bit tunnelly. but you're getting everything that's on my mind)
I dislike finding phrases like this in walls of texts because it feels like tw is setting up in case he has to say something like welp I guess I missed sorrylolz.. and ys this is actually tunnely and it's funny that it even talks about guilty concious
In post 124, Nineja wrote:I managed to make the same mistake twice and lose my typing by hitting preview and then going back, I remember most of my points so hopefully this comes out without sounding too off. I think that moony might be town and 1 mafia is on the wagon pushing for an easy day 1 lynch GL is null to me rn so its 50/50 between Worst and GW. Worst has been passive to me this game, sitting back asking questions but not really doing much else, feels like he's just going with the flow, which is scummy to me.
this post is like, incredibly wolfy i think
once again he's written this, deleted it & rewritten it so i'm gonna be coming from the pov that he's obviously spent a fair bit of time analysing this point.
"I think that moony might be town" is ok but i'm having a bit of a chicken/egg dilemma situation here. he's just randomly decided that moony is town and that there is scum on the wagon of {gl, tw, gw}. i can't discern if he scumreads {gl, tw, gw} or townreads moony. i very seriously can't find a reason to townread moony. the only part of his scumread cluster i agree with is potentially {gl} right now. the passivism point about me is...more or less fine, except i think his evasion of my questions only to turn around and position me like this in 124 is probably not coming from someone who's trying to sort me.
as an aside: i totally expect this to come from either paranoid town, or positioning wolves. positioning an IC as potential scum out of paranoia is a very common trait for newer townies, and i always encourage newbies to talk through this kind of paranoia because it helps move the game forward in a huge way.
but his reads here feel very convenient, in a way that feels like they're constructed to push his "moony is town, {gl, tw, gw} is scum" narrative.
This actually makes sense and it's what made me re-read all of this
In post 124, Nineja wrote:Worst whatever did happen to your JunkoChan scum lead you had earlier into the day. Do you town/null read them now or do you just find moony scummier? I'd like to hear an answer to this because I feel as town if you had a read on someone you'd try to get more out of them but you just kinda asked Junko a few questions and then that was it, the passiveness feels scummier here than it does anywhere else imo and to my knowledge he hasn't explained why he had the read or why he dropped/forgot about the read afterwards. If you did just show me the post I want to read over it.
again i like that he's asked me for an update on my junko read but strongly dislike that he answers the question for me while positioning me as scum, again.
from my experience with newbies tunnelling the IC based on experience/fear of quality scumgame, there's a kind of "oh fuck but what if they're just scum who's playing us all for chumps and we'll never be able to catch them?!" kind of mentality. i am dramatising this, but only to get my point across. it's a valid mindset and should always be talked through.
i find it ridiculous that he'd achieve a net IC-paranoia scumread and then assume that i'd be so ridiculous as scum to pretend to scumread Junko, and then randomly forget about it.
again i don't think this is the kind of question/self-answer that comes from someone who is trying to sort me. he's positioning me as scum.
true, for someone who says that he thinks and rethinks his post to then erase them by mistake to have yet another time to think this is at this point weird.
In post 124, Nineja wrote:I think that moony might be town and 1 mafia is on the wagon pushing for an easy day 1 lynch GL is null to me rn so its 50/50 between Worst and GW.
What's making you think Moony might be town?
because I feel this is a scum lynching an easy day 1 lynch so Moony is probably town, I'm not saying he can't be scum, but this lynch looks a little too sus for me it just feels like atleast 1 scum is on this lynch. To answer your 2nd post (mobile sucks so i cant quote) GL can still be scum thats true however I personally find you 2 scummier and think the scum is more likely between you 2. I think GL should talk more though, would like more from them. I unlynched without lynching because I wanted to see your answer to my question first (about the JunkoChan read) before I lynched between you or GW.
to answer my earlier question: he has indeed randomly decided moony is locktown because he loosely scumreads someone on the wagon which he can't commit to. i think in writing this that he's basically saying i'm scum/maybe scum with GW but my lack of belief in his scumread of me is probably already pretty transparent.
i also find it pretty farcical that he has GuiltyLion in his "evil sucm voting moony" pile, yet when questioned defaults to null and seizes up, claiming that he nullreads GL and therefore will not be pushing him today. again this isn't coming from someone who's trying to sort GL. this is where i'm seeing signs of possible "scum/scum"/SvS interactions. it's pretty unnatural to be suspicious of GuiltyLion from a gamestate point of view, read his posts (which have been pointed!) and reach a point of "nah, I don't have a read on this dude" and then...not do anything about it.
Junko: this post can come from either scum or town tw
In post 128, the worst wrote:could you give me a quick summary of your reads? (a tiered readlist would be perfect, otherwise just talk me through your current takes)
This is scummiest to towniest btw, I'll explain what I havent already stated before but if I miss something or someone wants more info on a read, you'll have to give me a day as I prob won't be active all of today besides rn and most of tomorrow I just got hit with some big projects in school that I need to get done now
compterfan0: never answered my question went quiet though this could just be noobie slot not knowing what to do still find his lynch on me came at a weird time which id why i asked the question and wanted the answer
yellow: seems to be helping town, good contributer,
the GW/TW thing is more or less fine and works out with his PoE.
i still don't understand what's caused him to shift GL up in his reads above computerfan0 and this doesn't feel real
cjv/junko/yellow slots are more or less fine (i think it's strange he feels the need to include the bit about yellow which just involves him randomly writing him off as town but..that's whatever i guess)
having moony as his strongest townread is absolutely, without a doubt, a posturing read. he's dropped his agenda (moony is town with scum tw and/or gw + town gl voting him). his read list is basically composed only to fit that agenda; it doesn't come from someone who's actually trying to work out who's more/less likely to be town or scum in this instance.
Junko: null again, i's good logic and goes in sync with what he already said
TL:DR This will be a good post to come back to, depending on what nineja or tw turn out to be
tbh I would like to put the worst higher in my reads but this puts him at just likely town and can easily go down to scum
I'm still set on Grandwazoo and would like any investigative roles, if we got them to pick between tw and nineja, second option would be nineja, but a lynch on nineja would only tell me about TW alignment
can you seee where I'm coming from? a 1 for 1 instead of getting a scumlean like GW who has interacted with many people at this point in the game is more valuable
VOTE: Grandwazoo
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Post #275 (isolation #39) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:44 pm
Postby JunkoChan »
p-edit was about to give you a sarcastic response :3 glad you realized
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Post #278 (isolation #40) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:31 pm
Postby JunkoChan »
In post 276, the worst wrote:@junko - you agree Nineja needs to be sorted. care to wagon him with me?
This almost felt like a marriage proposition. I agree but still believe GW is a better lynch today and nineja a better case for tomorrow
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Post #280 (isolation #41) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:43 pm
Postby JunkoChan »
In post 279, the worst wrote:how do you feel about the actual stuff i commented on wrt his alignment tho? i dig you using my thought process to sort me but i was hoping for some more engagement on his alignment :<
Your post really made me shift from townread to 50/50
The problem is, if he is town, it's going to make me believe and probably others that you are scum, if he is scum then you are most likely town, you get that? I believe that if nineja is scum he is going to slip all the way to his grave
I want to believe that you are town tuss having nineja on the spot for investigative roles to confirm a (if on our side) powerful town ally
if you are at least 80% sure about your reads on nineja okay fine you get my vote, otherwise I refuse
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Post #282 (isolation #42) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:48 pm
Postby JunkoChan »
In post 281, the worst wrote:alright if you feel grandwazoo is a better equity lynch i respect that
not sure what excludes {nineja, tw} being t/t from your point of view but i guess that's not really an important subject preflip
agree this is not something for today
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Post #288 (isolation #43) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:16 am
Postby JunkoChan »
In post 287, computerfan0 wrote:Im sorry, im too busy playing NationStates, I'll try to post more.
this is starting to annoy me
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Post #295 (isolation #45) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:12 am
Postby JunkoChan »
In post 291, GrandWazoo wrote:Not that it'll help, since town has played terribly and is being openly taunted by scum.
Translation:
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Post #296 (isolation #46) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:14 am
Postby JunkoChan »
In post 294, YyottaCat wrote:So GW is saying some scum is desperately making us thinking GW is scum
what do you think about Nineja?
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Post #314 (isolation #47) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:31 am
Postby JunkoChan »
I'm not sold on this one either, anyway not hammering or changing my vote until Nineja comes back
also @YyattoCat care to actually answer?
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ANd you say that because? (the reasoning is correct) but... why?
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Post #336 (isolation #50) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:04 pm
Postby JunkoChan »
330-335
UNVOTE:
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Post #338 (isolation #51) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:06 pm
Postby JunkoChan »
I'll be back when he finish reading everything
this is GuiltyLion 2.0
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Post #340 (isolation #52) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:10 pm
Postby JunkoChan »
In post 337, Junk wrote:Why are you sighing in despair at my posts and unvoting me at the same time?
1. I'm not unvoting you I'm unvoting GW
2. I just went through readding GL multipost wall
3. I already stated replacements annoy me and you are I think our third replacement in less than a day, also you are a recently made account which make me think you could be someone who is already in the game (I don't know if there is a way to know if this is true or not)
4. This is nothing personal
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In post 337, Junk wrote:Why are you sighing in despair at my posts and unvoting me at the same time?
3. Lol what is this
I've been playing Mafia/Werewolf IRL for a few years, some Town of Salem and epicmafia on my PC, this is my first time discovering Forum Mafia
nothing personal
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Post #399 (isolation #54) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:52 pm
Postby JunkoChan »
What annoys me about this is that now I think the worst was right about nineja
you got my vote for Junk, wating to see what others think
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Post #402 (isolation #55) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:54 pm
Postby JunkoChan »
is he at L-1?
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Post #404 (isolation #56) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:56 pm
Postby JunkoChan »
he is not, he got 2 votes on him for what I can see (I'm trusting last northsidegal's vote count)
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In post 404, JunkoChan wrote:he is not, he got 2 votes on him for what I can see (I'm trusting last northsidegal's vote count)
Oh, you're right, it's 5 to lynch today, not 4... Math hard.
no no you are correct I was loking at 355 thinking that was the last vote count
votes on nineja/junk: the worst Guiltylion brassherald and Grandwazoo
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Post #409 (isolation #59) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:08 pm
Postby JunkoChan »
So yes it's an intent to hammer now that we got a few days, I guess we can sit on this for a bit
p-edit tw beat me to it.
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Post #421 (isolation #60) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:24 am
Postby JunkoChan »
is anyone buying this?
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