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Hey all. I told the mod that there was no way I was going to read 153 pages, but I at least did a little bit of skimming. I skimmed through the ISOs of both my predecessor and the lynched scum player, and looked at several vote counts through the two days. I skimmed my predecessor only because I wanted to know what he was taking stances on, but it was a fairly small ISO. I disagree with his Muffin read, and that was all I really got out of it.
I made a small list of players I thought were town based on the ISO of 123456789, and added increased confidence based on who chose to pursue his lynch. I also cross referenced how many times 123456789 talked to the various players, and which players he tended to be dismissive of and which players he constantly tried to throw shade on.
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It's a small list to start... I'd say I really only put maybe 30 minutes into it, but this is what I have so far...
TOWN
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Titus
Frozen Angel
Cerberus v666
brassherald
Nancy Drew 39
zMuffinMan
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Gamma Emerald
Ankamius
POTENTIAL SCUM
Sando
Drixx
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Anyone that is High Confidence was due to there push on 123456789 or his push on them before any sort of momentum had started on him. Mid Confidence was due to a few minor things that I picked up, mostly just the way he would shade these players, but not enough to feel confident about the reads.
The Potential Scum list is two people I feel 123456789 ignored despite strong feeling from other players on those slots. He is found quoting other people in regards to these possible scum reads of mine, but they tend to be very dismissive. Since it's more likely for scum to ignore their team than engage them, I felt these two players were possibly buddies.
As a warning, I put very little effort into my list, but I feel as though it's at least a good basis for me to start formulating reads going into Day 3. Now, with that being said, Ank is dead so I don't have to worry about his slot, and I've been seeing people say Titus is Cop Guilty (color me a bit surprised considering the interactions between Titus and 123456789).
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I voted for Nosferatu last night to be leader. I voted for him entirely on the basis of being someone I know and him being on the scum lynch and off the town lynch only. I have not read anything else in the game outside of the rules, vote counts, and those two ISOs.
I'm not the type of player who likes high post count games, but I wanted to help Dream out since he reached out to me specifically. I humbly ask that maybe we slow down the spam a bit as to not have me go through 10-15 pages every time I need to catch up.-
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Well, at least I had both of them as town readsIn post 4030, Sakura Hana wrote:Uhh Toog, brassherald was replaced by Ankamius who is now dead.-
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But what motivation would Shiro have to make up talking to Cerb's ghost? Whether or not he actually can doesn't prove Shiro's alignment anyways since he's not confirming anything other than message relay, so what other reason would he have to lie about it? And even if he is lying, is he troll lying, or is it something really lynch worthy?In post 4062, MathBlade wrote:Yes. Shiro claims to have used the spiritual power on Cerb.
I asked if Cerb is online
Shiro says yes
I ask Cerb a softball question
Shiro doesn’t relay an/the right answer for Cerb.
Ergo he likely isn’t talking with Cerb ergo scum-
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If your argument involves Titus as part of the gambit, I'm probably not as likely to sheep on you with a vote since I think Titus is town based on 123456789's interactions with Titus. I have no input on Shiro as of right now however. I'll skim through the ISO tomorrow.In post 4075, MathBlade wrote:Combine with a buddy down I could see Shiro and Titus gambitting together to try to convince us that they are both town using “Cerb” to do it.
I actually wasn't intending to stay up longer. I really just wanted to make sure I said hello, mentioned what I did with my time during the night phase after my replacement, and beg the spam to slow a bit. I'll check in more tomorrow.-
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STAHP
...seriously. Do you guys just like to see yourselves post?
I'm going to need more than paranoia fueled conspiracy theories in regards to Shiro. It's such an elaborate gambit if done by scum that can misfire in so many different ways that I can't see it as a viable gameplay move. Sure he could be scum, but I'm not putting much faith into the current argument in that regards, and it's like all you guys have been talking about for 15 pages.
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Blood for the blood god.In post 4365, Nosferatu wrote:this is going to lead to a lynch other than sando isn't it...
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You wanted to wait for me to post before you mentioned your read on my slot only to come in and call it scum because of something my predecessor said on page 2 (basically rvs)? Why was it important for you to wait for me for something like that?In post 4497, stungun0404 wrote:
i really disliked this push here by bbmolla, which is why i wasn’t convinced on his slot’s towniness before replacing in. i don’t understand what about this post suggests zmuffinman is scum. i feel this could be scum trying to take advantage of lynchbait.In post 31, BBmolla wrote:
VOTE: zmuffinmanIn post 23, zMuffinMan wrote:i voted myself
then i voted cupcake because i wanted scum to kill him
then i voted myloninja because cupcake is probably scum and i wanted scum to kill myloninja instead
then i voted myself because i read rule 7
then i looked at the player list and realised i didn't give a shit who got voted leader
then i voted myloninja again for shits and giggles
i am completely and utterly astonished that myloninja didnt end up getting voted leader, he was clearly the most qualified candidate
Vote: Cupcake
99% sure he rolled scum this game. i may say this every game but this time i'm not joking
please help me lynch him before he is able to post
This is scum
In post 31, BBmolla wrote:
VOTE: zmuffinmanIn post 23, zMuffinMan wrote:i voted myself
then i voted cupcake because i wanted scum to kill him
then i voted myloninja because cupcake is probably scum and i wanted scum to kill myloninja instead
then i voted myself because i read rule 7
then i looked at the player list and realised i didn't give a shit who got voted leader
then i voted myloninja again for shits and giggles
i am completely and utterly astonished that myloninja didnt end up getting voted leader, he was clearly the most qualified candidate
Vote: Cupcake
99% sure he rolled scum this game. i may say this every game but this time i'm not joking
please help me lynch him before he is able to post
This is scum
this right here is probably town. enough for a townlean at least. sando has no reason to make this harder for scum if he is scum, and so it is easier to assume he is town based off this post.In post 34, Sando wrote:no-one should correlate these votes yet either, don't make scums job easier than it is.
so right now, heaviest scum lean —> toogeloo
heavy town —> zmuffinman
likely town —> sando-
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I didn't realize that was an actual question. A single "what?" tends to be more of bewilderment.In post 4513, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Why aren’t you znswering my question? You just placed a naked vote on Sando withoit giving any reasons. I don’t know what I find more suspicious, Nos fakeclaiming a guilty on Sando or you just sheeping him?
Iirc, molla also did that. I don’t remember whether it was on Katsuki or Muffin but other than your easy defense of Shiro (after other people already pretty much said the exact same thing), I haven’t seen anything causing me to townread your slot.
I had a low impression of Sando in my ISO of the scum player, and I have a solid town read on Nos. I replaced into a game when it was at 153 pages. Sheeping was on the menu.-
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Based on 123456789's slight defenses of the slot while generally ignoring it. Scum tend to try and avoid constantly engaging their team unless they are bussing, especially early on. 123456789 doesn't engage Sando at all, and tends to be dismissive of the slot (and even calls it town on occassion) the few times the name comes up, despite defending the activity of Sando, which apparently was pretty minimal. Bear in mind, the amount of times 123456789 even mentions Sando in his ISO is an extremely small number.
Comparatively, he's constantly calling Titus and Frozen Angel scum early on in the game, which makes me more likely to trust those slots to be town.
Listen. I'm not about to read and evaluate 180 pages of a game I replaced into. I took a very simplified approach and analyzed the vote counts and dead scum ISO, and that's the basis of my play starting today.-
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Who said I read Sando's ISO?
And yes, you are town due associative reads from 123456789.
I haven't readanythingoutside of the scum flip's ISO, my predecessor's ISO, and the vote counts prior to today. And to be totally honest, I've skimmed through most of today since it's like 90% about Shiro/Cerb conspiracy theories.-
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The answer to every question you've asked so far...
I at least did a little bit of skimming. I skimmed through the ISOs of both my predecessor and the lynched scum playerI skimmed my predecessor only because I wanted to know what he was taking stances on, but it was a fairly small ISO. I disagree with his Muffin read, and that was all I really got out of it.Anyone that is High Confidence was due to there push on 123456789 or his push on them before any sort of momentum had started on him. Mid Confidence was due to a few minor things that I picked up, mostly just the way he would shade these players, but not enough to feel confident about the reads.
The Potential Scum list is two people I feel 123456789 ignored despite strong feeling from other players on those slots. He is found quoting other people in regards to these possible scum reads of mine, but they tend to be very dismissive. Since it's more likely for scum to ignore their team than engage them, I felt these two players were possibly buddies.I voted for Nosferatu last night to be leader. I voted for him entirely on the basis of being someone I know and him being on the scum lynch and off the town lynch only. I have not read anything else in the game outside of the rules, vote counts, and those two ISOs.-
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stungun scum reading my slot based on a post that was made on page 2 of a game, which is still basically RVS, is kind of ridiculous. I'm not even entirely sure how serious Molla was with that post, and there is literally nothing I can do about it either since it was my predecessor who posted it and I don't know what frame of mind he was in when he posted it.
I can do this however...
"Fuck you Molla for making a shitty RVS stage post that I, as your replacement, disagree with 153 pages later."-
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your town reads are 2 dead and flipped confirmed town, and mylo?In post 4668, Drixx wrote: Someone asked me for reads. I don't usually do lists as most of you know. It's early day 3. I'm pretty sure scum is in:
{Titus, Sando, Toogeloo, Katsuki, Shiro, Nancy} - There are a couple others who I have light FoS on. Those are the ones where there's enough to at least have them a step further than nullscum.
I'm pressed for time but if anyone is confused about why, feel free to ask and I'll explain.
My strong town reads right now: Cerberus, Ank, Mylo
Seriously I do have some light town reads but I'm not at the point where I feel it's useful for me to just info vomit. Still have a list of things I want to go looking for and people I want to re-read.
FWIW: I have a couple working theories which adequately explain the events and gamestate, and unusual for me this early I've got a potential town block in mind.
Sorry for the shotgun post. I am pressed for time and wanted to communicate a lot of thoughts. I'll try and respond to questions when I can.-
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In post 892, 123456789 wrote:
1) I don't get why scum MUST coordinate... They could simply just choose not to and pick whoever they prefer.....In post 546, Titus wrote:
Basic math. 5 scum. If scum didn't want FA to be leader, they coordinate on someone else. FA has received fewer than 5 votes claimed. The Day 1 leader is always scum motivated. (Note: That does not mean FA scum).In post 506, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
I dunno. I think Cerb is likely town here based on meta. Where do you get that scum wanted FA to be a leader? It looked like a mostly town vote to me. Why would you think FA’s being a leader is primarily scum motivated?In post 468, Titus wrote:
It does seem rather hinky. It's rather unlike Cerb to suppose town can just keep 6 people alive indefinitely and that FA would automatically trust him. Seems exactly why scum would let FA be a leader. Town!Cerb is more of a critical thinker than that. Town!Cerb would also consider the possibility of a factionsl strongman.In post 358, Sakura Hana wrote:Oh man, and just when i was thinking of switching my vote, Cerb goes ahead and posts #353
VOTE: Cerb
Cerb acting as if he cannot die is rather scummy. A town Cerb considers that a) There might be a factional strongman b) That FA might read him as scum incorrectly and thus not give him a vest or c) imply she would give cerb a vest to protect more town reads but scum shoot Cerb anyway.
2) Each player on the team pick their own powers.In post 915, 123456789 wrote:
Bad post.In post 707, Titus wrote:
What are you trying to say here?In post 703, zMuffinMan wrote:@cupcake
read human sequencer and 123456789 ISOs and tell me what you seeIn post 1100, 123456789 wrote:
If you are doing the same thing as me, why are you scumreading me for it?In post 1055, Titus wrote:
You know I lack that gene. So I am not going to Peacock. Talk to me about Numbers. Do you see that he has little follow through like I do?In post 1053, Ankamius wrote:Can you look town in the meantime so I can solve the gameIn post 1368, 123456789 wrote:
Yeah, well, it benefits scum to suggest ideas about mechanics that are likely to help scum. In other words, you can’t completely absolve responsibility for what you post since it is just mechanics-related.In post 1183, Titus wrote:I should stick to MU. There my intelligence is respected even if disagreed. I don't get voted for mechanics disagreements and trying to sort from my theory.In post 1370, 123456789 wrote:
Umm... 1) I’m not totally parroting other people’s suspicions. That said, if I agree with something, I’m gonna point it out. 2) I’ve called posts town and I actually do have a bunch of townreads.In post 1214, Titus wrote:
Hi Drixx.In post 1212, Drixx wrote:
Can you clarify this?In post 1210, Titus wrote:Everytime I try to get engagement on my reads, I get ignored and tell me to plug my nose. What specifically should I do? Ignore charismatic scum possibility is not the answer.
Everytime I tried to engage on numbers in a substantive way, I got attacked.
What I say about Numbers gets ignored except for 1 comment by worst.
Numbers is basically just parroting suspicions and not calling anyone town.
Got any thoughts please? Like I miss you. NAI miss you.
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These interactions with Titus do not suggest to me bussing on 123456789's part, especially given how early in the game they started. And Titus isn't the type of player someone on a scum team usually attempts to bus even unless Titus is already floundering.
TITUS IS NOT SCUM-
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From a theory standpoint, scum will often incriminate someone on their team as a scum lean. Given the interactions 123456789 had in the game, I'd be more likely to believe of his scum reads, scum is more likely in: Randomidget or Human Sequencer.In post 1387, 123456789 wrote:Sando - Town
BBMolla - Null leaning town
NicoRobin - Null
Randomidget - Null leaning scum
Kokichi Oma - Leaning Town
Nancy Drew 39 - Scum
hebichan - Leaning Town
zMuffinMan - Leaning Town
Human Sequencer - Scum
Katsuki - Null
Sakura Hana - Town
Toranga - Town
Frozen Angel - Town
Shiro - Town
Gamma Emerald - Leaning town
Ankamius - Scum
Nosferatu - Leaning town
Cerberus v666 - Scum
Myloninja13 - Null leaning scum
the worst - Town
Titus - Scum
Drixx - Null-
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I don't play on Sundays, so coming back to almost 25 pages is pretty lame. Half the shit that's posted in this game could easily be taken to general chat and discussed there, and then half of what's left is just circular arguing over and over about the same inane things. Stop posting just to hear yourselves talk, please.
The people who don't want Sando lynched might convince me to vote Drixx if he becomes a target, otherwise I haven't seen anything that makes me interested in changing my position for today.-
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If Titus is scum, I'll actually read the whole game... every... single... post.
If she isn't scum, then I get to continue to coast on my associatives, and get voted to be leader! <i>*(actually, I really don't want to be leader since that's way more work than I am willing to put into this game still)*</i>-
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Did you notice that Titus was voting Sando before there even was a real counter wagon, and that Sando voted Titus as well? Like, first two wagons of the day were just counter wagons to each other.In post 5545, stungun0404 wrote:you guys notice that titus is on the sando wagon, and that sando is on the worst wagon? which one looks more like scum just trying to survive? correct answer: titus!
Titus isn't voting to survive, stop painting Picasso's.-
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For policy reasons, or is there a legit case?In post 5634, Shiro wrote:Toog, do you wanna help me lynch katsuki?-
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I mean, I have no reason to want to keep Katsuki alive, so I wouldn't be opposed to helping with that lynch, but I'm just curious if we are doing it for policy due to activity, or because of legit scum reading the slot. My vote would be basically policy sheeping if I were to vote as of this post, but I'm not just going to switch off of Sando for that.-
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So you are paranoid... (or if you are scum, just trying to keep your options open!)In post 5650, stungun0404 wrote:god, why are there so many sketchy players in this game?
Anyways...
I'll add Katsuki to my list of "I'd be willing to lynch today."
Official List: Sando, Drixx, Katsuki-
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"I'm just a sweet transvestite from Transsexual, Transylvania!"In post 5672, Shiro wrote:Call me whatever, I don't mind :p-
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I'm a good person, usually. What's kind of upsetting me these last couple years is how much the #metoo movement has really affected all aspects of humanity and the day and age we live in. I don't agree with the behaviors, prejudices, whatever, but that doesn't change the fact that we just live in a different time now than we did even just a few years ago. I always compare it to eating bacon. Old Testament says you shouldn't eat any pork products, but who doesn't love bacon? Can you imagine if a decade from now, it's highly frowned upon world-wide that if you ever ate bacon you are a bad person because the Old Testament says it's not ok?In post 5679, MathBlade wrote:Can we please not quote movies that are really decisive in the LGBT community?
I just don’t want to be triggered. Call me a snowflake if you want please but I can’t watch Rocky Horror Picture Show without feeling dysphoric.
I have nothing against LGBT community, various races, religions, creeds, ...whatever... but I'm not going to feel sorry for loving a cinema cult classic just because it's more offensive today to a group of people than it was a decade ago.
Anyways, point taken, and it's off-topic enough already, so sorry if I started something that didn't need to be started, and I'm done talking about it.-
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Honestly, the VC makes me just notice that the Sando lynch is still pretty firm, while the Titus lynch didn't have strong legs and is trying to make Katsuki the new counter-wagon.In post 5716, stungun0404 wrote:even though it’s not official, i can do a quick vc check!
as of last vc, it was
Sando (6): Nosferatu, Creature, Kokichi Oma, Toogeloo, Titus, Gamma Emerald
Titus (6): hebichan, Katsuki, stungun0404, MathBlade, Sakura Hana, the worst
Katsuki (1): Shiro
the worst (1): Sando
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now, after mathblade unvoted, and hebichan and sakura hana both voted katsuki it’s
Sando (6): Nosferatu, Creature, Kokichi Oma, Toogeloo, Titus, Gamma Emerald
Titus (3): Katsuki, stungun0404, the worst
Katsuki (3): Shiro, hebichan, Sakura Hana
the worst (1): Sando
Not Voting (6): Drixx, Frozen Angel, Nancy Drew 39, Toranaga, zMuffinMan, MathBlade
there have only been 3 vote changes since last vc, so this was pretty easy actually!-
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1. Read my role PM.In post 5724, Frozen Angel wrote:So toog half your iso is defending titus and derps just right after you replaced in. may I ask what did you do in order after you replaced in?
I mean:
1 - checked the last person in your slot
2 - checked the flips
etc ...
can you make a list?
2. Read the rules.
3. Looked to see if there were any flipped scum.
4. ISO'd my predecessor just to get a gauge on activity and why he replaced.
5. ISO'd the flipped scum.
6. Made a cup of hot cocoa.
7. Thought about reading more.
8. Decided not to.
9. Sent in Titus to be Leader. Mod said I couldn't since Titus was leader the night before.
10. Sent in Nosferatu to be Leader.
11. Drank my hot cocoa.
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I haven't done a whole lot since either if that's also part of the question, or the next question. I made a list of associatives based on the flipped scum's ISO, which I copypasta'd into my first post. Still haven't read a single post prior to Day 3 (other than the ISOs), and I've even skimmed through most of Day 3 when I come back to anything more than 5 pages.
PEdit: I couldn't tell how serious Molla was on Page 2 with his vote, I thought it was RVS and he was joking, and I feel like he just clinged to it. 123456789's associative posts with Muffin, and the fact that Muffin was the first and early pusher on 123456789's wagon (based on vote counts and 123456789's responses to Muffin), I didn't get the impression the two were same team, and since 123456789 is flipped scum, I figure Molla was just stubborn with his read (which, let's be real, Molla's ISO is really small, and I doubt his Muffin read was even all that concrete to begin with).-
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Toogeloo Jack of All Trades
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Solely because he was on the scum lynch and off the town lynch. I mentioned that I thought.In post 5728, Frozen Angel wrote:This was your initial readlist. why did you send nosferatu as leader?-
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In post 5732, Frozen Angel wrote:why would you vote for someone for leader because of such reasons when you had a readlist sorted?
I voted for a leader literally within 20 minutes of getting my role pm. Sue me...In post 5734, stungun0404 wrote:scum distancing and avoiding the lynchwagon is something just about everyone would be up to do if they were scum, so that’s not the soundest of reason there imo. you have to dig deeper if you are town-
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Toogeloo Jack of All Trades
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I'm sure you could save a bit of time and just say, "no matter what Titus flips, Toog is probably scum. He was hard defending his scum buddy -or- He was White Knighting so hard."In post 5808, stungun0404 wrote:pending on a confscum titus flip, possibly toogeloo enters the pool
I'll even do you a favor and do the reverse in regards to Sando. "Stun has to be scum, look how hard he defended his buddy -or- Stun WKed so hard, Sando being town meant stun was buying brownie points."
Cool?
Cool.
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Some people just like to hear themselves talk. People probably think I'm a lurker despite posting every day, multiple times. I just haven't posted 10 pages of content yet, so I'm in the lurker pile.In post 5880, zMuffinMan wrote:this fucking day phase is over 80 pages long and like 70 of those pages come from 8 players
fun times
The hilarity of it is that very few votes have been thrown around. The thread just circle jerks, recycles, and circle jerks some more.
I just got a PM from the Mod. It said, "This is a post from the Mod." -verbatim- (Oh shit, I quoted a PM from the mod verbatim... can I please get a PMed verbal warning about the consequences of quoting the mod directly leading to being modkilled? I promise I won't do it again).-
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Toogeloo Jack of All Trades
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Toogeloo Jack of All Trades
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Toogeloo Jack of All Trades
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Toogeloo Jack of All Trades
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Toogeloo Jack of All Trades
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Toogeloo Jack of All Trades
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How many times are you going to reemphasize this? Posts like this are why the game is so unreadable.In post 6289, stungun0404 wrote:it would be historic imo if scum avoided the numbers wagon entirely, it almost should be a given there is at least one scum there. town doesn’t tend to push a scum lynch alone
We get it, at least one scum probably bussed 123456789.
You guys realize if everyone minimized their post counts and made everything concise, it reduces the need to repeat the same shit over and over, and in turn actually makes the game a bit more fun for people who didn't sign up to read novels.-
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Toogeloo Jack of All Trades
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I'm not entirely sure why we are advertising who we want as leader. I feel like that kind of information is easily abused and could be taken advantage of by scum. Seeing who flips leader each day can also be used as a scum hunting tool in it's own way too.In post 6300, Sakura Hana wrote:Current Leader Vote Tally:
Sakura: Math, Nancy, Nos, stungun, Creature
Math: Sakura, Gamma, FA
Ok im around for now
@toog: Please choose one of the 2 options for leader please, im bolding this so you dont miss it across all the "spam"
Why do i have a feeling he'll miss it anyway.
Creature: Why do you keep dissapearing, did u replace into scum slot?
I'd go for Titus at this point, her VCA is faulty, she feels like she's hiding information.-
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Toogeloo Jack of All Trades
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I'm assuming the main reason is because the town leadership doesn't expect the town lurkership to make informed and good decisions, allowing the scum to possibly outvote themselves into a Leadership role, but again, this helps in scum hunting too since leadership accountability can be had.
Making us choose between two isn't fool-proof at all since accountability is reduced, and scum can easily buddy one of the two nominees or one of the two nominees could even be scum.-
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Toogeloo Jack of All Trades
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So what? Leadership is accountable for it's team building, and I doubt scum is going to pull it's entire team into the power thingamabob since that would raise a lot of questions as to why so and such went in. Use it for scum hunting, not clique building.In post 6333, Sakura Hana wrote:Nothing is fool proof but blind voting is dangerous, if everyone gets like 1-2 votes and then 3 scum vote a leader.-
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Toogeloo Jack of All Trades
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Well then, I'm antitown. I'm still not going to openly vote my Leader until after I've seen a flip every day. It may end up being one of the two "suggested" players, and it may not be, and I could just end up wasting my vote. That's not how I am going to play it, and I think it's foolish that you all think it's the only correct way to play.-
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Toogeloo Jack of All Trades
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Sando was at L-2 early today...In post 6476, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:You mean for lynch right? Good luck with that. Lol. Titus is at L-2 already.