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If you wanna hunt for scum shifting the leaders, evening the votes is not the way to go, and also literally everyone needs to promise that they'll stick to their assigned vote if they're town.
In which case for example a spread of 9 v 7 would mean that for scum to shift the votes would need to be at least 2 on the larger wagon towards the lower wagon, and if that happens, then we can start checking that wagon, We should also make sure the tiebreaker would favor the person u want to be leader so they can't shift it with a single vote, if you choose tho 10 v 6 scum can try and kill the 10 ppl person and win a 3v3 tiebreak.
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In post 7490, Sakura Hana wrote:I could run for leader again if u guys want me to.
Although it's clear scum DOESNT want me to.
I picked BP last night btw, I changed my mind coz i thought scum would reverse psychology me, if i had have superpowers earlier i would've gone for HT and use BP, but oh well.
This also means that i can SS a BP tonight so scum wouldnt be able to power negate me unless they get SS and strongman me.I bloom in spring?
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that's a weird way of spelling my name xDIn post 7586, stungun0404 wrote:sakanaI bloom in spring?
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Btw the ppl voting toog should probably unvote for now unless you have everything sorted, FA messed the tags so im unsure if the mod counted them, and we need a contingency plan in case toog flips town (assume 3 scum living tonight).
Let other people's voices and opinions on the leadership be heard if we just force them then not only they have less motivation to cooperate, but we can't get reasonings that may help us sort others.I bloom in spring?
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@everyone:Out of the currently 2 proposed leaders (Me and Drixx) would you rather vote over the other and why?, If you dont think either should be leader, then who do you want as leader, and why do you prefer them over us.
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I only need VPN to post, i can send PMs and read normally.In post 7618, Sando wrote:
Do we need to sort out another leader option for tonight?In post 7616, Sakura Hana wrote:Im having some issues with my IP and Spamhaus apparently, talking with my ISP to try and solve it, but for the time being im pre-emptively going V/LA because i cant post without a VPN until this is solved. I can still read however.
And this may only be temporary, im hoping they call me back within an hour or so to see if it can be fixed, just dont expect me to post a lot.I bloom in spring?
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Ok so, first of all, Nero, I remember something about you being lurkier as scum and so far you feel pretty engagy? enganging? dunno which word would describe it best, i wouldnt call it fail proof, but i wanna believe it.
As for other things, stun me being town just means im not going to mislead you, it doesnt guarantee that im right, i encourage people to engage me on my reads if they feel something is wrong, buddying is a weakness of mine coz i cant differentiate very well between town and scum townreading me.
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Nothing has changed really, as for this day phase, at first i was too busy finishing out La Mulana 2 and that game was taking most of my time, and now i have this BS blacklist thing for my IP on spamhaus and so i cant post without a VPN, so im only posting as much as necessary.In post 7739, stungun0404 wrote:you said yesterday i would be heavily town-spewed or sth like that with a titus scumflip (which i took a mental note of). what has changed since then? i have not seen you really follow up with it. kinda like i spotted titus over the night phase never following up on toranaga’s alignment after a numbers lynch, which with titus being scum probs suggested she did not care because toranaga was town. not implying you are scum, as i am really heavy on you being town to the point you are nearly locktown, but i am just curious why you have not followed up on it this day phase so far.
I'm giving you information on what i know of Nero's meta, i asked a question to see what stances people would take and their reasoning but very few followed up on it. It's not like I cant do much if ppl dont cooperate. I dunno why people decided to ignore my reasons for TRing u on a scum Titus flip that i presented yesterday.
I'm trying to make the most out of every post I make coz I rather make less posts with more information until this situation is solved, but I keep drawing a blank.
out of your list TW and Kokichi worry me the most. I'm also pretty sure muffin was town and wrong.I bloom in spring?
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Hey toog game isnt going as fast as it was yesterday, you have no excuse to be self voting and not game solving if you're town at this point.
Another note: Im pretty sure this is town hebi, scum hebi would've gone out the first exit that she finds methinks, specially with her reaction to being scumread, I just wish she did more contribution tho.
It also feels like whoever's town in here is relying on the townbloc to solve the game for them, Nero is a nice fresh breath of air in the thread considering Katsuki's lack of actual contributions, Sando's also very town, Stungun vs Titus isnt SvS, as I explained yesterday, even without the townbloc getting BP, looks like scum are just gonna get PoE'd out at this rate.
Btw Nero, since u were in street fighter mafia, i'd like you ask for your opinion on these:In post 6870, Sakura Hana wrote:
If i didnt think there was a high chance of you being scum i would rather lynch creature yes.In post 6869, Titus wrote:Sakura, you literally just posted Creature is lockscum but mislynching me is better because info. Like there are going to be vigs. I will die or keep catching scum. You act as if I have no value to town in your calculus as well.
Although i didnt mention it like that to me is like choosing between a mafia goon and mafia PR lynch.In post 6873, Titus wrote:
Do you think I am bussing here?In post 6870, Sakura Hana wrote:
If i didnt think there was a high chance of you being scum i would rather lynch creature yes.In post 6869, Titus wrote:Sakura, you literally just posted Creature is lockscum but mislynching me is better because info. Like there are going to be vigs. I will die or keep catching scum. You act as if I have no value to town in your calculus as well.
Although i didnt mention it like that to me is like choosing between a mafia goon and mafia PR lynch.In post 6876, Sakura Hana wrote:
Let's be real, what scum wouldnt bus creature.In post 6873, Titus wrote:
Do you think I am bussing here?In post 6870, Sakura Hana wrote:
If i didnt think there was a high chance of you being scum i would rather lynch creature yes.In post 6869, Titus wrote:Sakura, you literally just posted Creature is lockscum but mislynching me is better because info. Like there are going to be vigs. I will die or keep catching scum. You act as if I have no value to town in your calculus as well.
Although i didnt mention it like that to me is like choosing between a mafia goon and mafia PR lynch.
Kind of reminds me of Titus bus on Varsoon when she was dying.In post 6880, Titus wrote:
I'd argue self-meta but this is a catch 22. Basically, I do well and the argument shifts to bussing. I do poorly and it's because I am scum and not flawed town. The arguments are made preflip. Every post, people avoid common sense.In post 6876, Sakura Hana wrote:
Let's be real, what scum wouldnt bus creature.In post 6873, Titus wrote:
Do you think I am bussing here?In post 6870, Sakura Hana wrote:
If i didnt think there was a high chance of you being scum i would rather lynch creature yes.In post 6869, Titus wrote:Sakura, you literally just posted Creature is lockscum but mislynching me is better because info. Like there are going to be vigs. I will die or keep catching scum. You act as if I have no value to town in your calculus as well.
Although i didnt mention it like that to me is like choosing between a mafia goon and mafia PR lynch.
I made a theory, followed it through to a scum lynch. Played protown with the power I had rather than saying fuck you you spammers and trying to win by myself. At what point is this feeling just drama repeating itself because players like Math have a vendetta against me and want to play hero?I bloom in spring?
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The leader doesnt choose which power people get, the people themselves chosen by the leader chose which power they want, so we cant trust that you will indeed take the suicide bomber over something like super strength that will bypass bulletproof if you're scum.I bloom in spring?
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Honestly tho, this post has been bothering me a lot:
Can someone please tell me if im overthinking it? Cerb had a 75% town read on Titus and a 99% town read on Drixx, but idk if this means that there's a connection between scum!Titus and Drixx or im just getting paranoid.In post 6435, Shiro wrote:Btw general Cerb thoughts
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FA's list should be Drixx and Shiro, and that's it nobody else.
Nos might be town, and math might also be town. However, if he thinks that if he was killed based on expectations people then randomidgets slot is a likely suspect, as are Drixx and Titus to a lesser extent.
He also notes that the kill strategys so far have been really good since scum go for broadly townread targets by the leader but not the obvious choice.I bloom in spring?
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Well 2 things, on one if Drixx is as trusted town from Cerb's read, then Tora mimicking him last night doesnt make sense.
On the other hand Tora has claimed that Drixx used BP last night, even if Drixx were to be scum (which i doubt, why go for BP if you're scum) that's the only power they have aside from Tora being scum with him and lying.
Regardless of Cerb's read the fact is Tora claimed to mimic Drixx and saying Drixx used BP last night.I bloom in spring?
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@toog: According to this you were supposed to be voting for me, but you admited to not voting, there's your potential leader shift.In post 6978, Sakura Hana wrote:
Can i squeeze this in before thread lock?In post 6972, Sakura Hana wrote:In post 6924, Sakura Hana wrote:
I feel like I need to quote this every page now >.<In post 6801, Sakura Hana wrote:Sakura (9): Math, Nancy, Nos, Creature, hebichan, the worst (right?), toogeloo (?), Kokichi (?), Toranaga
Mathblade (9): Sakura, Gamma, FA, stungun, Sando, Drixx (?), Katsuki (?), Shiro (?), zmuffinman’s slot if not modkilled (?)I bloom in spring?
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Something like this, i think.In post 7580, stungun0404 wrote:am i missing someone? the voter tally seems wrong. answer: yes - creature!
sakura voters: toranaga (?), nancy drew 39 (?), sando (?), drixx (?), stungun, frozen angel (?), nosferatu (?), gamma emerald, tw (?)
drixx voters: math, sakura, katsuki (?), kokichi (?), hebichan (?), theta alpine (?), creature (?)I bloom in spring?
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I didnt think about it yesterday, it's something that occured to me today.In post 8029, Toogeloo wrote:I'm surprised that you didn't push for 10-8 Vote split yesterday (doesn't matter on who), just to see if shenanigans were afoot.
@Math: If you or Stun could keep track of who wants to vote for who, that'd be great.
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Ok, im starting to get it.
Plan is if scum gets power they either get suicide bomb and use it (and die) or dont (and get lynched), and if scum didnt get power nor is in the lynchpool we accelerate 3 game days of 6 questionable ppl dying (hopefully 1-3 scum dying amongst them) instead of 1 questionable player and 1 obvtown.
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Do you think town would target someone in the townbloc or otherwise someone that they werent instructed to?In post 8200, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Math, why couldn’t any of the SB’s target someone in the townblock?
Scum certainly would, but they'd die too.I bloom in spring?
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@Nero: If you're right and Drixx is scum then we need to reasses the other potential leader for tomorrow.
As far as Drixx goes, im sure a good bunch of people are just sheeping Cerb's 99% read on them.
There's also Tora saying Drixx used the BP last night instead of going for literally anything else if scum.
There's also Cerb saying that rando, Titus and Drixx make sense as scum that would shoot him.
In my reads list near EoD for D3 i also mentioned i ONLY had Drixx as strong town because of Cerb's read.
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I'm at i want you dead rn.
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An unpopular opinion would be Nero, mostly coz this looks more like his town meta than his scum meta, im not 100% sure how good Nero would be at replicating his scum meta at this point, but i've had a couple encounters with his scum meta and he was... way less active.
Another unpopular opinion would be maybe stungun.
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I mentioned it in this post here directed at Nero:
In post 8292, Sakura Hana wrote:Nero: Creature, Nosferatu, Kokichi, Gamma, and maaaaaaybe TW.I bloom in spring?
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Speaking of.
I recall that yesterday at some point I thought Titus was town coz she gave powers to town and not to scum as the leash forced her to do so, Math argued that this is Titus trying to be townread or get in the townbloc. In addition to that Titus was confirmed to have precognition by Math.
Now apparently the logic that Creature is scum leads to the complete opposite when we already knew Titus was scum and telling the truth, and even according to Titus wanting to be "confirmed by Ank" would imply Ank did get a power (but scum killed Shiro anyway so we dont know).
So Titus isnt gamethrowing but apparently gave power to town ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and got lynched anyway.
Why wouldnt scum!Titus bus creature in an effort to make creature look townier as she was going down?I bloom in spring?
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None here but.
I think Nero may have an objection to Drixx being a leader candidate, i was hoping we'd get that sorted out amongeveryone, if you think everyone should vote me go ahead, i am 100% SSing an impenetrable skin tonight, if i die anyways, then i hope you can figure out what happened.I bloom in spring?
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Here's the issue, tomorrow petrify is on the list, who is leader is extremely important and i bet scum is going to be all over wanting that sweet sweet petrify specially if scum has sneaked in the townbloc.
Everyone voting me, would solve that issue, BUT, if scum has ways of dealing with me then im dead and we get potentially a scum leader.
I am not gambiting to try to avoid getting killed, i am 100% doing as i stated so if i die, there's 3 options.
A) Scum was in tonight's list and got SS too.
B) Math didnt actually give me a power and so i couldnt SS.
C) Scum has a way of bypassing impenetrable skin on their own.I bloom in spring?
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For one, the leader is unlynchable and unkillable that day/night cycle (unless day ends in no lynch, then leader loses protection for the night)In post 8594, Nero Cain wrote:What does the leader do?
the leader also chooses which players can get a super power that night phase.
Super powers can be obtained and activated on the same night they are aquired and multiple people can choose the same super power.I bloom in spring?
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No it's fairly simple.In post 8602, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I don’t know what would happen if two players used SS on each other, probably their rival actions would fail? I should ask the mod about that but that would be my guess.
SS ignores modifications and blocks.
The keyword here is "ignores" it doesnt block or modify another player's action.I bloom in spring?
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If my action is SS'd it cannot be negated/redirected in any way, shape or form because it ignores it, so a power negate even if SS'd wouldnt prevent me from activating Impenetrable Skin, it would however still prevent people from targeting me with super powers.
A kill is also an action, and Impenetrable Skin is the one that blocks it (impenetrable skin is a block for kills, so is the new ability that is a doc), so an SS'd kill with go through Impenetrable Skin.
Impenetrable Skin doesnt target, it's kind of a self-doc, so redirections dont work on it by default, but if they did SS also prevents such.
It can be a bit convoluted to understand, but that's also how basic NAR works in any case.
If an action modifies another player's action, the player's action is modified unless it's own action could prevent it from being modified (for example, commuter, nexus, hider), in which case, the one with the highest priority on NAR occurs, to avoid paradoxes.I bloom in spring?
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At some point some people starting saying that they wanted me to be leader candidate, and then Drixx just came in and started shading me and saying that I inserted myself into leader position or something like i was brainwashing people via voodoo magic or something.In post 8632, Nero Cain wrote:
What stunt?In post 8631, Sakura Hana wrote:And im pretty sure you know my opinion on that stunt Drixx did D2I bloom in spring?
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Uh, not exactly? I brought up the exact quote here, because I figured titus flipping scum (who cerb had a 75% town read on) could imply that this was the situation Cerb was worried about wrt Drixx and wanted more opinions but i immediately got shut down (i think?).In post 8638, Nero Cain wrote:If Cerb was town reading him and then once he got shot thought that "hey Drixx might shoot me." Why did you decide to go with the town read as opposed to his paranoid scum read?
I like your case, which is also another reason why I was proposing a change of leader candidates because Drixx could be scum.
I think out of all the available options picking this doesnt help the scum win con in any way unless Drixx is worried about FA redirecting the kill to him, instead of something like power negate.... actually thinking about this is making me think Drixx might be town again ugh.In post 8638, Nero Cain wrote:y is this townie?I bloom in spring?
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It is possible, yes.In post 8645, Nero Cain wrote:Would Drixx not take a BP to look town?
I'm just not sure this is the avenue they would take.
But then again, Titus did the same thing, they gave power to town to be townread....
DAMMIT NERO YOU'RE MAKING TOO MUCH SENSE xDI bloom in spring?
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we are voting only me tonight for leader unless someone raises an objection.In post 8649, the worst wrote:Skipped the last 13 pages anything interesting happen?I bloom in spring?
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