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If you're reasoning is that saske is town because scum does want PRs and hence wouldn't choose a number that is so 'unlikely' to be a PR, then you're wrong.In post 11, Mathdino wrote:saske is town by the draft imoI mostly just lurk now.-
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Fun fact, the 6th position is the most frequently night killed position in PYP X/Y games.In post 12, Mathdino wrote:to be clear, my intent was to be far enough down the draft that
- I would not be a target for the NK
- I would essentially be forced to be a VT or a terrible PR
i did actually try to be a PR once i saw that i was 6th on the draft though, and obv no comment on thatI mostly just lurk now.-
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I'd just like to build/correct some points on this.In post 15, Mathdino wrote:Night 3 Vigilante/Vengeful: people keep crumbing this, stop crumbing. vig/venge someone based on community consensus. i doubt town picked vengeful but if anyone claims vengeful, policy lynch them (this is optimal play)
1-Shot Vigilante OR 1-Shot PGO: vig someone who's either dead weight or is likely to be lynched tomorrow. luckily we have a list of "most likely to be PR" to "least likely to be PR" so just try to hit vanillas imo. doubt anyone ever picks PGO in this setup
Cop OR 1-Shot Redirector: we hypoclaim cop targets tomorrow, remember to actually act like you have an inno
Universal Backup OR Role Cop: role cop is surprisingly not terrible. rolecop people at the top of the list. look for scum picking vengeful, redirector, etc.
Neighborizer OR Fruit Vendor: i sincerely hope no one picked fruit vendor. neighborize talkative hard-to-sorts who won't get NK'd. i used to be a great neighbour but now i just get NK'd so don't neighborize me thanks
When it comes to crumbing, just don't. Not in PYP X/Y. When scum KNOW whether or not you're likely to be a PR, they can spot your crumbs and soft claims far more easily. The most common reason for scum killing someone in PYP X/Y games is because they are confident they know theexactrole of whoever they are killing. And when I say most common, I mean 40% of all night kills ever made in this setup. Do. Not. Crumb.
Vengeful, as a role, is not statistically AI for this setup. But yes, obviously lynch anyone who claims the role.
PGO has only ever been picked once.
I like the idea of hypo claiming cop results. I just worry that people are going to be able to stick to them.
Again, to reiterate, vengeful is not a scum exclusive role. In fact, it's been more frequently obtained by town but that's still close to 50/50. On the other hand, redirector is 100% scummy.
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The #s 1-3 are often picked by scum. But from there it fluctuates.In post 18, Almost50 wrote:1 is actually very scummy to pick for starters. I think scum are within the lowest picked #s (1,2,3,4,5) but no 2 scums would have picked the same #.
And scum has actually picked the same number before (2). From this, they gained no PRs and lost the game. So whilst it is possible, I find it incredibly unlikely.I mostly just lurk now.-
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Because most people get the setup spec wrong and I enjoy correcting them with facts and statistics :3In post 41, the worst wrote:Anyone feel like spoonfeeding me why any of the setup spec p1 makes sense?
Seriously though, it can be helpful. Last game I was able to predict (and prevent) a mafia night kill and fairly confidently figure out one of the mafias through setup spec and analysis of past games. Sadly, I woke up dead that night since the mafia knew my role and had a vig. Town lost that game (mostly due to toxicity)I mostly just lurk now.-
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I'd say that someone's draft number alone is not enough to warrant a lynch. But I'll certainly be using it in conjunction with other scummy actions to deduce someone as scum. Sometimes there are patterns that you can't ignore.In post 43, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:Also I honestly dont think there's much merit to reads based on the draft, ESPECIALLY scumreads, but if it helps people find scum i see no reason to desist it ( ̄ω ̄)I mostly just lurk now.-
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Assuming we have the same data, why?In post 47, Mathdino wrote:Tbh I thought 2 would've been picked more based on the previous draft data but w/eI mostly just lurk now.-
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Absolutely not a good idea. The only time this kind of claim is ever acceptable (IMO) is when you've just been lynched.In post 75, Almost50 wrote:@Dino: I mean, I'm half asleep already, so I want your opinion on this: Would it be a good idea for those who didn't get their picked roles to claim what they picked? On the one hand it tells us "someone who had draft priority" over that slot got that specific X/Y ability, but on the other hand that's us telling the scum whom exactly are the TPRs AND what type of abilities they may have.I mostly just lurk now.-
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Oh god I had the exact same thought.In post 83, Almost50 wrote:Well, what I have learnt from this game is I should've picked 7 or 9 instead.
In before we sign up to the next game together and have flashbacks to this moment.I mostly just lurk now.-
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They can and they have picked 'high' numbers. (though that's considering high to be any number over 20).In post 87, the worst wrote:Also assume Saske is town by draft because scum would never let someone pick such a high number?I mostly just lurk now.-
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In post 92, Mathdino wrote:Pick Your Power X/Y Except The Mod Chooses Who The Mafia Are
(Not An Art Project)
Did these 2 games actually happen? If so, I'd appreciate being linked to them.In post 93, the worst wrote:Pick your power x/y except the x and y choose who chooses who the mod is who in turn chooses who the mafia areI mostly just lurk now.-
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The draft should definitely be factored; especially for association tells.In post 108, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:HOWEVER I posssess a SIGNIFICANT amount of CONTENT so even THEN the draft should be secondary if even factored in AT ALL Σ(-᷅_-᷄๑)I mostly just lurk now.-
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The scum that has picked high numbers in the past have done so in the hope that:In post 139, Almost50 wrote:(who the hell picks 413 unless (a) they wanted to make sure they remained powerless, or (b) expected nobody to pick a certain role and wanted to go for that (which is still farfetched because while the pick guarantees nobody else would have picked the same number it also guarantees she will come after everyone who picked a unique number)
- Most people who picked lower numbers than that picked the same number and hence automatically go behind them.
- Had their other scum members pick fairly low numbers and have 1 high number just in case there was a lot of duplicates.
Personally, I don't think picking a high number is particularly AI in either way. However, if Saske does flip scum, then her partners almost definitely picked low ones.I mostly just lurk now.-
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This isn't actually too accurate. Though the level of inaccuracy depends on what you consider low and large numbers.In post 145, Mathdino wrote:i disagree with this, i think scum usually goes for 2 lower numbers and 1 larger one (to get a "guaranteed" singleton)I mostly just lurk now.-
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Yes, but scum are able to coordinate their reasons. The number you submit knowing nothing about what anyone else is submitting and the number you submit knowing 2 of the numbers that others are submitting can be very different numbers.In post 163, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:I mean this is why reading from the DRAFT is SHITAKE in my opinion (⌒▽⌒)- really ANYONE could pick ANY number for ANY reason
That's why the numbers give us information. Mafia's numbers are more controlled.I mostly just lurk now.-
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I wouldn't say that IIn post 183, Almost50 wrote:Beefster would probably say he can't read me anyway (actually so would mutant, but whatever).can'tread you, more that I'm bad at it :3 But that isn't anything unique to you.I mostly just lurk now.-
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From reading my games I assume? I don't recall ever having played with you.In post 218, Taly wrote:I've seen the rest of the playerlist once or twice: {mutant, ...I mostly just lurk now.-
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In post 223, Lalendra wrote:I like Simyk's angles and analysis but goddamn are those posts hard to read
I admire your commitment and effort with the caps lock and ascii but I find myself skimming because it's hard to decipher
I had the exact same development on her. One moment I was like "uh this is giving me a headache" and then the next I was like "I love this!"In post 224, Lalendra wrote:Actually nvm I'm getting used to it nowI mostly just lurk now.-
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VOTE: Janitor
I'm liking Math, SIMYK & Icon - though I can't help thinking that my 'liking' of Math may actually just be hoping as I don't want to fall into to the trap of town reading someone just because they value the setup spec as much as I do again.
Everyone else I don't find too noteworthy.
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Math's title genuinely sounds like something that could have been run during the marathon games and the worst's 94 sounded like he had a stupid moment in a game of that title.In post 256, Lalendra wrote:
tell me you're not seriousIn post 240, mutantdevle wrote:In post 92, Mathdino wrote:Pick Your Power X/Y Except The Mod Chooses Who The Mafia Are
(Not An Art Project)
Did these 2 games actually happen? If so, I'd appreciate being linked to them.In post 93, the worst wrote:Pick your power x/y except the x and y choose who chooses who the mod is who in turn chooses who the mafia are
It's unlikely that these games happened but still plausible so I still asked because if they do exist then I don't want to miss out on the data from them.I mostly just lurk now.-
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Hey! I'm not always bad reads and confusion! Sometimes I'm lucky reads and sexy.In post 263, Almost50 wrote:When was the last time he actually posted anything other than bad reads and confusion?? Here he is actually providing some information and cars to argue back with facts.
Seriously though, I'm providing facts here because I have them. This is my favourite open setup since the draft mechanic gives us so much information, then top that with night kills, then consider what faction is likely to pick what role, and you have a setup that can be partially solved with logic rather than just reads and lucky night actions. I get so much more fun and satisfaction by working out who is scum and being right than reading who is scum and being right (probably because I'm not the best at the latter).I mostly just lurk now.-
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Don't worry I will. I've written it in ink on my hand.In post 271, the worst wrote:
I will run both next marathon weekend remind meIn post 240, mutantdevle wrote:In post 92, Mathdino wrote:Pick Your Power X/Y Except The Mod Chooses Who The Mafia Are
(Not An Art Project)
Did these 2 games actually happen? If so, I'd appreciate being linked to them.In post 93, the worst wrote:Pick your power x/y except the x and y choose who chooses who the mod is who in turn chooses who the mafia areI mostly just lurk now.-
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You can lynch my leg if you want. But I'd prefer you didn't hang me by my neck so that I can keep breathing and speaking.In post 306, the worst wrote:I want to lynch mutant a liiiittle bitI mostly just lurk now.-
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This triggers me so much.In post 313, Ircher wrote:Yeah, stop with all the setup speccing please.I mostly just lurk now.-
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If you strongly consider meta, then take into account that all the setup spec I'll be doing will be backed up by statistics surrounding the meta of this setup. I believe Math is also basing some of his setup spec on setup meta as well.In post 316, Ircher wrote:I do strongly consider meta, but are you really confident enough with your meta read to call Beef “lockscum”?I mostly just lurk now.-
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The difference between you and Jailor though is that Jailor had the opportunities to contribute in the posts they made yet still didn't. On the other hand, you weren't present and hence couldn't contribute.In post 326, Ircher wrote:I mean, it hasn’t really seemed like you contributed anything really to this point (though the same could be said for me.)I mostly just lurk now.-
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Where does he mention me making multiple reads?In post 333, Ircher wrote:
Point me to the multiple reads he made. I didn’t see them.In post 263, Almost50 wrote:When was the last time he actually posted anything other than bad reads and confusion?? Here he is actually providing some information and cars to argue back with facts.
If anything, he's complimenting my lack of focus on reads.I mostly just lurk now.-
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Ask anyone who has played a game with me.In post 346, Ircher wrote:Mutant - Neutral Scum; again, a lot of setup spec and not much in reads.
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Yes. I'm getting the wrong alt hereIn post 381, brassherald wrote:
By Jailor do you mean Janitor?In post 380, mutantdevle wrote:
The difference between you and Jailor though is that Jailor had the opportunities to contribute in the posts they made yet still didn't. On the other hand, you weren't present and hence couldn't contribute.In post 326, Ircher wrote:I mean, it hasn’t really seemed like you contributed anything really to this point (though the same could be said for me.)
Actually, my buddy, the jailer, is town thanks. 50% of them are.In post 382, the worst wrote:NO BRASS hes talkin about his buddy the scum jailorI mostly just lurk now.-
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In post 384, the worst wrote:I have onions about that
His interactions with Ircher mainly. The Math I know comes across as more calm.In post 386, brassherald wrote:
This seems pretty much like Math's town meta to me.In post 383, mutantdevle wrote:Observation: Math seems a little more aggressive than usual?
Where do you see him being more aggressive?
That said, I've seen the Math I know as both town and scum. I don't recall him being what I consider aggressive here as either alignment before. Hence, I don't think there's anything too AI about this at the moment. Perhaps it's something worth considering later though.I mostly just lurk now.-
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Vengeful has been in 7 PYP X/Y games. Of those, 57% (4) have been town.In post 406, The Janitor wrote:Wouldn't you think scum would want to pick it? It guarantees hitting a PR bar the redirector I think? As opposed to a vigilante which can a) hit Vanilla Town and b) can only be used N3. I guess Vengeful could be useful for both parties but picking vig would make more sense for town I think.I mostly just lurk now.-
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Essentially the same reasons that Math has stated he is voting you tbh. Most of your early posts didn't seem to contribute anything and you seemed intent on picking apart ideas and things instead of contributing your own. I'm going to change my vote though.In post 406, The Janitor wrote:Why me then? Any opinions on what I posted? You didn't mention them, did you find my posts bad like the other people on my wagon?I mostly just lurk now.-
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Actually, he was referring to how in past games I'd have bad reads and spend a lot of time being confused. He then complimented how I am providing information here through the knowledge I have of this setup's meta.In post 407, Ircher wrote:
It was suggested by the wording but was not explicitly stated. Regardless if MathBlade hates this catch-up style, I’m still doing it because it is what I am used to doing.In post 385, mutantdevle wrote:
Where does he mention me making multiple reads?In post 333, Ircher wrote:
Point me to the multiple reads he made. I didn’t see them.In post 263, Almost50 wrote:When was the last time he actually posted anything other than bad reads and confusion?? Here he is actually providing some information and cars to argue back with facts.
If anything, he's complimenting my lack of focus on reads.I mostly just lurk now.-
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VOTE: IrcherIn post 409, Ircher wrote:That’s super irrelevant; when did you think I thought MathDino was MathBlade?
You've been tingling my scum sensors ever since your second post but I decided not to vote you because I wanted to see where the janitor wagon would go.
This post bothers me because it reacts to brass' comment as though it was supposed to be game solving. Furthermore, the question here is phrased in a way that tries to appear like its game solving itself. Honestly, this just feels like scum trying to look busy.
Add that to how Ircher seems intent on shutting down any form of setup spec and seems to focus too much on other people's reads (in my opinion) and judge them based on that. That makes me comfortable with this vote.I mostly just lurk now.-
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Why the plural? I'm only not reading one of them because it's blatantly too long. I started reading it and saw that he was simply quoting every other post and describing it as null. What do I gain from reading that? I CTRL+F ed my own name to see if there was anything I need to address and there wasn't. There's nothing in that post (as far as I'm aware) that addresses my stance.
Honestly, when I look at a post like that I just think about Irchers own view:In post 354, Ircher wrote:I mean, scum do gain from being hard to follow because then they can be more width-washy about their reads.I mostly just lurk now.-
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Done. All that stands out is the poor use of the colour yellow.In post 441, the worst wrote:at minimum read his "reads at post ___" progression.I mostly just lurk now.-
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No, because I scum read Ircher and scum lean you but I don't think you can be scum together.In post 455, Mathdino wrote:
because we're scumreading each other and you can't believe either of us could be wrong?In post 453, mutantdevle wrote:I feel like one of Ircher and MathDino are probably scum.I mostly just lurk now.-
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In post 457, Mathdino wrote:and mutant hasn't towntold yet which has a lot of scum equity for him"
Are we seriously going to start every game we play together by y'all saying something like "hmm, he usually seems more town than this!".In post 458, the worst wrote:I think mutant has been more 'conventionally' towny tonally this game than he usually seems??I mostly just lurk now.-
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No.In post 461, the worst wrote:mutant can you mutantcase it for me?
I need substance to mutantcase, it's too early for that, + it's midnight for me and I'm going to bed. So maybe later, and later doesn't mean IRL tomorrow. Like it's quite early in the game, this read could drastically change by the end of next week. There's no point in casing something like this when it's heavily subject to change.I mostly just lurk now.-
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No, but I feel like there is specifically scum in the bracket {Ircher, MathDino}. To me, it doesn't feel like any old 1v1 that I usually simply observe. I feel somewhat confident that there's scum in this based on how each of them is playing and how they are interacting with each other. If either of these flip scum, I'm assuming the other is town.In post 484, Almost50 wrote:
Personally, I feel like 3 of the players in this game are definitely scum (but that's just me).In post 453, mutantdevle wrote:I feel like one of Ircher and MathDino are probably scum.I mostly just lurk now.-
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Are you actually seriously attempting to game throw here? I haven't read on so I can only hope this is a reaction test or some kind of GAMBIT but if you're going to game throw like this then get the fuck out by replacing out. Throwing like this isn't necessary.In post 492, Almost50 wrote:
I agree.In post 485, Mathdino wrote:^while this is not intentionally a scumteam
in a very literal sense, THIS IS A SCUMCLAIM :O :O :O
VOTE: A50
Let's do this. At least I won't be playing with "the silliest name that ever was" anymore. I had promised myself not to play in games with that person anyway, but I didn't know that was them.I mostly just lurk now.-
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I don't think this is a question that we should be answering.In post 508, Almost50 wrote:Now which of the players before me on the draft would take that as town?I mostly just lurk now.-
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If you're going to consider setup spec as scummyIn post 520, Ircher wrote:5. 227 to 235 and 237 to 244 by mutantdevle: Aside from your two "I need to catch up posts", your first several posts deal almost exclusively with the setup and the draft and without anything to do with some kind of read one way or another. I don't necessarily consider that a good thing, and tbqh, it is actually a good way to look like town as scum. I'll have to see though if this trend continues, or if this is just part of your catch-up which you seem to be doing sequentially like I normally do. (Leaning Scum)
Then you may as well lock scum me now.
The longer I live the more setup spec I'm going to do and, with enough information, I could very well 'solve' the game rather than read it provided I can convince others of my point of view.I mostly just lurk now.-
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My meta and the ability to judge people on things other than their reads.In post 520, Ircher wrote:8. 261 by Almost50: Overly impressed by mutant's towniness - Say what? I definitely didn't get that impression from mutant; what am I missing? (Null)I mostly just lurk now.-
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I don't like Ircher - at all.In post 528, Taly wrote:What's with the dichotomy here? Are you saying they both can't be scum together or town together? Why?
MathDino is different in a way I can only describe as more aggressive than usual and I don't like that either.
The way they are interacting with each other makes me conclude that they can't be scum together.
I see each individual as slightly scummy hence when they are together there is a higher concentration of scum. But they can't be scum together. Conclusion: there's a good chance there's 1 scum between them.I mostly just lurk now.-
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Because they're not fully random.In post 539, Taly wrote:How do you deduce percentages of someone being scum FROM RANDOMIZED NUMBERS?
Townies will pick their numbers based on how much they're willing to risk getting the PR they want over having a PR at all.
On the other hand, scum plans their numbers with each other. The task of deducing scum by their draft numbers is to first figure out which numbers were planned and which are based on the decision an individual would make in regards to my above statement. For example, if we have someone who is known for not taking risks picking numbers 1-3, it means they are probably scum and have been made to coordinate their number with their scum team. Likewise, if we have someone who makes a lot of gambits and reaction tests picking a high number, they were probably made to pick a higher number by their scum team instead of a lower one. If we were to catch such individual, then we could also deduce that someone on their scum team asserts more dominance than they do and hence why they haven't chosen their preference.
The very fact that scum gets to coordinate their numbers means that they are most certainly not random. This gives us information that we can use but only if we identify it correctly.I mostly just lurk now.-
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Yes, I think you are. Specifically, I feel like you are aggressive in a different way. There's no denying you're an aggressive player but here you feel more hostile aggressive rather than pushy aggressive, the latter I associate as town you.In post 566, Mathdino wrote:mutant what games are you using as a reference for my aggressiveness
as i understand we've played 2 games together:
- switch, in which i was a cop with a n0 guilty
- tit for tat
are you claiming i'm currently more aggressive than i was in tit for tat...?
To me, you've always been a town leader. Any aggression you've had has led somewhere and has always felt like it's coming from a town agenda. In this game, you really don't feel like a town leader. You're just another person shouting into the wind. Your aggression here is far more personal and isn't really leading to anything. Right now, it's like you're just arguing back and forth with people who disagree that setup spec means anything. Sure, that's not entirely your fault. I very much disagree with anyone that says speculating about the draft numbers doesn't give us information to work with. But honestly, I'd expect town!you to look past these foolish mortals and be more intent on proving how effective it can be rather than just arguing over it. Town!you would be fully acknowledging that most of the setup spec argument comes from a difference in playstyles and know that that's not something that's just going to change by making a few frustrated posts to each other. At least, that's how my interpretation of town you would act. If you are town this game, then it's evident that we've both over glorified each other's town abilities.
Also, you're forgetting that marathon game we played together where you were scum. Knowing that I have the ability to look obviously town, you're approach to me in that game was to buddy me. I picked up on that pretty quickly and correctly identified you as scum. Even though you still won the game, you still failed to convince me you were town as scum. I suspect that based on that failure, you may have changed your scum approach to town!me to, instead of embracing how town I can be and work around it, try to discredit it. It pinged me a little when you shut down A50's notion that my first set of posts in this thread were townie because I honestly felt so townie making them. Especially since I would have considered you'd have a good idea of how I play.
Of course, these are very personal reasons I have for seeing scummy intent within you. I don't expect anyone else to understand them which is why I have no intent on pushing this any time soon. But as things are now, I think the best flip for my own reads today would either be yours or Irchers.I mostly just lurk now.-
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I used to do the multiple long posts in 1 post thing. I stopped doing that because people complained it's hard to read. Which in hindsight is exactly the case. When you see a massively long post you get demotivated to read it whereas the same information split into several posts feels a lot easier to read.In post 568, Ausuka wrote:How is it too long? It's simply multiple long posts, compressed into one post. There's no reason why you can't read it, and as for "he's calling everything null!!!" that is absolutely not what the post is, on any level. As to what you gain from it, you get to sort Ircher -- although if I'm right, and you're scum here, that makes a lot of sense, because you already know what Ircher's alignment, and you're only worried about perception of you, which is why you CTRL+F'd the post to search for your name, and nothing else.
For the null thing, the first parts of his post do just that. That's all I read before skipping over the post. I have since reread parts of the post just because I felt like it and saw it's not entirely claiming things as null, but I still haven't gained anything from what I have read and I don't expect to gain anything from reading the whole thing. Most of the lines I've read have no impact on anything what so ever. They're just as null as the things he calls null. Besides, my understanding of the posts is that they are primarily his reads. His reads mean nothing to how I read him until someone else's alignment is confirmed. Reads alone don't tell you if someone is scum with someone, it's interactions that do. That's why I've made a mental note of it as a post to come back to later. The associations will be valuable when people start flippin', until then, I have no need to read those posts fully.
As for the CTRL+F, I have a policy of addressing absolutely everything that is addressed to me. I also occasionally reply to things about me but only if there's anything worth adding. So naturally, even the posts I don't read I'm going to want to check they're not asking me anything. Not being bothered to read + wanting to know if I'm being asked anything = CTRL+F.I mostly just lurk now.-
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I skimmed some of the argument but I did intentively read most of it so that I could try and give a convincing read on both of you. You still seemed like a town leader in that though. And you did face a bit of criticism in that game, I interpreted town jumping on A50 like that as a massive "fuck you" directed towards you and your attempts to lead the town.In post 574, Mathdino wrote:i can only assume you completely skimmed the entire argument i had with luca blight in tit for tat
i town lead when i'm in a playerlist that allows me to
some playerlists are weirdly anti-setup spec so i get sidetracked
like i feel like if 3 or 4 people suddenly went "yeah i'll sheep math on this" or "math is clearly the town leader" you'd be reading me differently because of how other slots treat me
In this game, the only people really against you those who disagree with setup spec and A50 being saddened by you not town reading him. I don't think the way others perceive you has anything to do with this tbh. It's all about how I perceive you.I mostly just lurk now.-
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Vig is exactly 50/50 out of 8 games. But I do think scum would rather have a vig than vengeful.In post 579, The Janitor wrote:Ya, I figured picking Vengeful is not really typical for either faction but would you agree about scum profiting more from it from the vig option and/or a vig being more likely town?I mostly just lurk now.-
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