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What do you mean with "if"?In post 155, DrewVa wrote:In post 154, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
And if there’s an SK in the setup, they are just as likely to have read the sample role PM as not.In post 153, RCEnigma wrote:
Now that I've read through the rules, SK is in the pool of roles so. ????In post 92, Elsa Jay wrote:In post 89, RCEnigma wrote:Maybe not scum, but she isn't town.*They say in a game confirmed to not have Multiball and hinted on page 1 to possibly have 5 scum.*
So,iftown wins with all anti-town dead and 1 townie alive, then scum I assume, would win with the exact opposite wincon.Sorry.
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Why did you use the word "In post 157, DrewVa wrote:
???In post 156, BrightEyedFish wrote:
What do you mean with "if"?In post 155, DrewVa wrote:In post 154, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
And if there’s an SK in the setup, they are just as likely to have read the sample role PM as not.In post 153, RCEnigma wrote:
Now that I've read through the rules, SK is in the pool of roles so. ????In post 92, Elsa Jay wrote:In post 89, RCEnigma wrote:Maybe not scum, but she isn't town.*They say in a game confirmed to not have Multiball and hinted on page 1 to possibly have 5 scum.*
So,iftown wins with all anti-town dead and 1 townie alive, then scum I assume, would win with the exact opposite wincon.Sorry.
What part of that do you not understand?If" asifyou are just guessing what a Town Role PM says.-
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You can't just brush this aside. I don't think you received a Town Role PM.In post 168, DrewVa wrote:braincells-
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I'm notIn post 171, DrewVa wrote:
Good.In post 170, BrightEyedFish wrote:
You can't just brush this aside. I don't think you received a Town Role PM.In post 168, DrewVa wrote:braincells
Now, learn to freaking read and don’t talk to me, kthanx.talkingto you, I'mtypingto you.
Is English your first language?
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Ok you're right... on the 2nd point.In post 176, Almost Chara wrote:if doesn't imply uncertainty by itself, and there's a sample town role PM in the opening posts.
further, the colloquial definition of "talk" includes written communication, because no one actually says "we're typing at each other in this mafia thread". ;>
~Chara
But I don't think someone who is town writes IF there. You don't have to see this IF as damning as I do, but don't forget it later on.
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Switch out "if" with "since" or "now that" and the whole perspective of the sentence changes.In post 155, DrewVa wrote:
So,iftown wins with all anti-town dead and 1 townie alive, then scum I assume, would win with the exact opposite wincon.
Ex. 1
So,sincetown wins with all anti-town dead and 1 townie alive, then scum I assume, would win with the exact opposite wincon.
Ex. 2
So,now thattown wins with all anti-town dead and 1 townie alive, then scum I assume, would win with the exact opposite wincon.
Ex. 3 (original)
So,iftown wins with all anti-town dead and 1 townie alive, then scum I assume, would win with the exact opposite wincon.
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Perhaps mafia!drewva could be employing a subtle WIFOM tactic.In post 187, Almost Chara wrote:
and to use a pragmatic instead of semantic argument, why on earth would a mafia member be musing about possible scum wincons while not beingsureof the town wincon?-
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Exactly, and the "IF" issue is the first piece of evidence in my DrewVa case. It stood out to me and I thought I would share. If it's irrelevant to you that's ok. You can pull your evidence for reads from other places.In post 192, Almost Chara wrote:so it's something town doesn't do, but also something scumdoesdo to subtly look town?
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Why don't we just keep our votes hidden? It could stop pointless sheeping and also make it harder for scum to start a counterwagon if a potential scumIn post 232, profii wrote:I really think we should use hurt tags to track "vote counts" ourselves
I mean, if you fake it, you better have a freaking good reason post flip so thats easily dealt with and i think tracking things like "I find such and such and such town" will be very tricky.
otherwise the emperor dudes may as well just lol hammer ?
is the leading wagon.
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I get that, but I think keeping the votes hidden makes it harder for scum. If you want to post who you are voting for go ahead but just be careful because scum could be a Day Representative and end the day early if they see a wagon building on town.In post 238, profii wrote:
imo this is part of VCA - VCA isnt just the final VCIn post 234, BrightEyedFish wrote:scum to start a counterwagon if a potential scum
is the leading wagon.
Speaking of Day Representatives, anyone have any thoughts on how they are chosen yet?-
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But my drama brings ratings, does it not?In post 386, Elsa Jay wrote:We got too many people. More then 23 including the Hydras. We gotta thin the herd.
I cant remember everyone in this game, especially with the hydra slips. Sigh.
Reality show biz, my friend. You aren't appealing to the audience. Unfortunately, that means you gotta go.BrightEyedFish wrote:Elsa,
Why all the shade? Are you harbouring emotions from a past game?-
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I don't see it as being a grammar nazi, as I make plenty of mistakes. I was worried about the word choice and semantics and not the grammar. Besides you've got to start somewhere andIn post 389, Elsa Jay wrote:Being a Grammar Nazi doesn't bring in ratings, and we get more ratings if you get punched in the face or something. We can't do that here, so voting you will have to do.
If You want real drama, TLK and RCE grudge match is where it's at.I don't care, what they're going to say.-
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To be honest, I do feel excitement every time Elsa mentions me in a post regardless if it's an insult. There's something there. I feel like Elsa wants to hate me but just can't. Elsa has this conceal--don't feel mentality when it comes to me. He can't just turn away and slam the door though. Perhaps, he should test the limits and break through and win this game with me us town.In post 770, RCEnigma wrote:
Elsa's get Bef lynched schtick is already old. I encourage slots to continue scumreading me without engaging me or asking my views, specifically my reasoning for townreading BEF.-
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There are 2 fish in this game. Which one are you referring to?In post 817, Alonzo wrote:
I think they are a lil dissapointed that I have not carried town like I did in the last boonskiies.In post 795, profii wrote:Alonzo - have your peers said much about ending the day or not? Are they waiting for anything in particular to happen?
No way Max n Nev 'are going down a scummy path with Lonzo without having it out with me first. Very unlikely Town Fish.
Gamma is scum I know it.
Elsa sprung into action attempting to push me after I became active, not sure I was even on their radar before hand.
Il give Drew time to save Nancy
Ultimate Lurkers is the only slot out here playing worse than me.
Re End of Day.
I dont see how telegraphing 1/3 of the votes required to End the day well in advance is scummy, and I simply dont have the data on my phone to play the sniff the fart mafia alot of these players like to play for 100 pages a day everyday. Simple.-
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ahh. Nevermind, I got confused with FF slipping.In post 821, BrightEyedFish wrote:
There are 2 fish in this game. Which one are you referring to?In post 817, Alonzo wrote:
I think they are a lil dissapointed that I have not carried town like I did in the last boonskiies.In post 795, profii wrote:Alonzo - have your peers said much about ending the day or not? Are they waiting for anything in particular to happen?
No way Max n Nev 'are going down a scummy path with Lonzo without having it out with me first. Very unlikely Town Fish.
Gamma is scum I know it.
Elsa sprung into action attempting to push me after I became active, not sure I was even on their radar before hand.
Il give Drew time to save Nancy
Ultimate Lurkers is the only slot out here playing worse than me.
Re End of Day.
I dont see how telegraphing 1/3 of the votes required to End the day well in advance is scummy, and I simply dont have the data on my phone to play the sniff the fart mafia alot of these players like to play for 100 pages a day everyday. Simple.-
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Let's talk.In post 824, Elsa Jay wrote:In post 802, Ramcius wrote:
So Elsa hindering our progress with her schticks isn't an issue to you, dully notedIn post 801, RCEnigma wrote:I don't have a read on Elsa. I don't know their style and I have only been in one game where they replaced into an IC role. Though the game was pretty much over.
You still seem to not like my style this game. Shame.
I only seem to "hinder" because half the people aren't here and I like to talk.-
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Have you developed a read on Drewva yet?In post 826, Elsa Jay wrote:Sure. What about?-
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What makes us "seem" like scum?In post 838, Theta Alpine wrote: i will agree that fish and rce seem like scum-
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I'm 99 in Fish years......In post 813, Alonzo wrote:Fish is 35 and chiseled like a Greek god, I'v still no idea where 99 came from =P
I think scum is involved with this whole unofficial VC agenda. I'll get caught up and give more thoughts on that matter today.-
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First off, I tend to always overestimate town and underestimate scum. So this post will be full of tinfoil and WIFOM stuff but it's where my fish head is at right now
The hidden vote system hurts both town and scum but I think it makes it a little harder for scum in the long term. They can't just sheep somewhere in the middle of a wagon and say "oops" when the lynched player flips town. They has less excuses to use the following day after a mislynch.
So this is the list of people who have made their votes public. It's around 50% or the player list. So going on that sample size, statistically speaking I would suspect at least 50% of scum to have done the same, so I would say in this list there are at least 2-3 scum.
Something_Smart
RCEnigma
Elsa Jay
profii
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Emperors New Groove
DrewVa
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The Last Knight
Nero Cain
Nev and Max
I have switched my vote 3-4 times so far this game and all of the people that I have voted are in this list. So that makes me think my reads are going places. If you have ISO's me then you can probably find my top scumreads throughout the game, though some have changed and some are still developing. ANd since I am a proponent of the hidden vote system I do not wish to publicly announce my votes as of now. I wish more people would keep their votes hidden, at least for the remainder of this day so that after the lynch and any NKs we will have a solid VCA to start with come D2. Perhaps once we get into D2 and further it may make more sense to share where we are voting. But for now I will stay silent on that front.-
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It is helpful for town and it is helpful to scum. You just got to decide for yourself which side it helps more.In post 1279, The Last Knight wrote:By posting the VC, I'm just trying to do something that I believe is helpful forthetown.
and since I did the same to DrewVa with "If", I found an interesting semantic issue with this post.
I am very interested on why you wrotethetown. Your use of "the" makes me feel that you are separated from town.
But before we roll down the semantics road again, I know I know. But these things play important roles for myself and my reads during the first couple of days.-
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But does that make it untrue?In post 1435, The Last Knight wrote:Your argument is nitpicky and annoying.-
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True. Unless some of the more inactive people starting pushing out reads then we might as well start contemplating if the day should end.In post 1461, Nero Cain wrote:The only reason to really end the day is if things have stagnated and it kinda seems like it has.
Does anyone know when the true deadline for D1 is if the end day votes don't come?-
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I think that once we enter D2 we should have a good start for information after the D1 flips and NK. If the votes be hidden gets us into trouble then we can try to push people to be more transparent with their votes.In post 1464, profii wrote:how do we move on from that though?
half the town are for vote counting and half arent - so lets the vote counters are pushing scum, the team mates are surely just going to be like "think ill not say" rather than openly push a counter in the normal fashion.
it's basically impossible to know whats going on. I think I'm going to do what someone mentioned earlier and hunt within the group of people that dont want to openly discuss their vote.-
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In post 1481, mcqueen wrote:
Don't understand this post (maybe it's been addressed)In post 795, profii wrote:Alonzo - have your peers said much about ending the day or not? Are they waiting for anything in particular to happen?
Our only communication as Day reps together is here. We don't get our own private thread or anything
What needs to happen before you feel confident with using your day end vote?-
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I get that. But I think we need to push through the mud and keep our votes hidden for the remainder of D1. It will keep any potential PR L-1s or whatever we call it this game from having to claim and scum will be forced to practically guess for their NK.In post 1489, profii wrote: Thats the point - we are really stuck on day 1 if people don’t participate in a home made vote count
After the dust settles and D2 starts we will have alot of information to proceed with. The D1 flip, nk, and the final D1 VC.-
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TLK is just too focused on keeping up the VC. It looks like busy work if you ask me and I'm inclined to think it is not town driven busy work.In post 1738, Ramcius wrote:
Anyway, what's your opinion about TLK being so passive despite fact that he's leading wagon? He don't challenge people on his wagon, he don't try push me anymore, he don't try push you either-
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I was Town in OK2 so I was overestimating my abilities too with that fake guilty.In post 1872, DrewVa wrote:
If Overkill 2, is any indication, I would argue the converse - BEF underestimated town. He faked a guilty on Hebi and never townread us in that game.
To be honest, hydras always give me a pause for caution and I think I tend to SR hydras a little faster and for a little less than non-hydra players. I know this is unfair but I can't help but picturing one head sitting there typing and the other head pointing a finger and laughing.
I still find you a little "Iffy" but you are more or less in my null pool right now.-
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Who doesn't want their scumreads dead?In post 1897, Ramcius wrote:
Sheesh, when you gonna stop misrep me? I want all my scumreads dead, that's town wincon, but I prefer other scumreads lynched over you, cause they have associations between themselves, while you are lone scumread-
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So people are only allowed to OMGUS vote you? If you TR them must they also TR you? Did I understand this correctly?In post 1905, DrewVa wrote: Why are you still so tunnelled on us, when we aren’t even voting you anymore?-
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Scum!you would know if he was scum or not.In post 1910, DrewVa wrote:
No, you didn’t. I’m saying he’s not thinking logically. Why wouldn’t scum!me be voting him now?In post 1908, BrightEyedFish wrote:
So people are only allowed to OMGUS vote you? If you TR them must they also TR you? Did I understand this correctly?In post 1905, DrewVa wrote: Why are you still so tunnelled on us, when we aren’t even voting you anymore?-
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Well, I would consider that possibly as WiFOM. I'm not implying that you are scum based on that post but it is irrelevant if you two are voting for each other or not.In post 1913, DrewVa wrote:
That isn’t what I said. I said as scum, fhpov, I should definitely be voting him.In post 1912, BrightEyedFish wrote:
Scum!you would know if he was scum or not.In post 1910, DrewVa wrote:
No, you didn’t. I’m saying he’s not thinking logically. Why wouldn’t scum!me be voting him now?In post 1908, BrightEyedFish wrote:
So people are only allowed to OMGUS vote you? If you TR them must they also TR you? Did I understand this correctly?In post 1905, DrewVa wrote: Why are you still so tunnelled on us, when we aren’t even voting you anymore?-
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Yeah, I'm going to just say this.In post 2404, Boonskiies wrote:
DrewVa most likely is anticipating alot of pressure today and I could fathom the idea that Scum nominated DrewVa as a Day Rep to help control the flow of the day.-
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I was in a round with DrewVa and Alonzo. DrewVa went on and on about if we are all town in the real game we should compromise so that we all get a prize. We we all did compromise and Alonzo and I were town and DrewVa was scum so DrewVa won the round and said they were choosing 1-shot Vig to be used starting N2.In post 2408, mcqueen wrote:@BEF
Not sure what that means because I’ve never been part of a BooneyToonz game before.
Is there actually a BOONus round? How do you know that DrewVa was apart of it?
I’m pretty sure you’re joking, but just to be sure.
Granted, the winner of the round choose their prize in their confessional thread so maybe they picked one of the other two options which were Loyal or Macho.-
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How would you know if I'm in scum chat or not? Perhaps because you have access to it.
***This is the time where I would usually fake a guilty claim on DrewVa.-
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There was absolutely nothing mentioned in our BOOnus round about another game or how we were chosen.In post 2423, DrewVa wrote:
Some players were chosen (and if I had any idea, who was boneheaded enough to chose BEF, I’d want PL both of themIn post 2416, mcqueen wrote:
Can someone explain what the BOONus rounds are and how they work? It’s probably in the first few posts, but I haven’t checked and I’m already typing thisIn post 2411, DrewVa wrote:
Our alignment in the BOOnus round has no relevance in the main game. If I didn’t already know how badly you scumside as town, I’d 100% be scumreading you for the blatantly anti-town post.In post 2406, BrightEyedFish wrote:DrewVa played a dirty BOONus round and said they were taking the Vig prize.
I was hoping for an AC filled D2 but that won't happen.
FYI, we did in fact select vig but we gifted it to someone you wouldn’t expect and since unlike you, we don’t want to gamethrow, we’ll leave it up to the player we gifted it to, to claim or not if/when they feel like it. I bet in scumchat, they’re calling you, “Santa”.). I believe maybe 6? in all. There were two BOOnus rooms, so we don’t know who the other three players are or who won the other prize or what they did with it. We probably won’t find out, since they were most likely fortunate enough, not to have a Dim Eyed Fishie in there’s.
So how DrewVa knows about another BOOnus round and the choosing mechanism is a wonder to me.
Oh perhaps another scum was in the other round and they talked about it in SC.-
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It could theoretically be 3 Town or 3 mafia tooIn post 2436, mcqueen wrote:
Then why did DrewVa say it could be 1 town 2 mafia? That’s an auto win for mafiaIn post 2433, Alonzo wrote:
Exactly, 3p overnight mafiaIn post 2432, mcqueen wrote:Is it like a mini mafia game and the winner gets the prize?-
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We all 3 voted compromise.In post 2443, DrewVa wrote:
Really? How would that work though? Based on how the BOOnus round is played, doesn’t at least one of the three players have to be of a different alignment?In post 2439, BrightEyedFish wrote:
It could theoretically be 3 Town or 3 mafia tooIn post 2436, mcqueen wrote:
Then why did DrewVa say it could be 1 town 2 mafia? That’s an auto win for mafiaIn post 2433, Alonzo wrote:
Exactly, 3p overnight mafiaIn post 2432, mcqueen wrote:Is it like a mini mafia game and the winner gets the prize?
Did you not read the rules?
If we all would have been of the same alignment we all would have won. Since you were the minority group you won.-
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We were group A.In post 2445, Gamma Emerald wrote:I was in a BOONus round myself (room C) and our game had the possibility of being all one alignment
So funny that Boon told DrewVa there were 2 groups when there were apparently at least 3-
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Quote his post.In post 2461, DrewVa wrote:
We specifically asked if there was a second round, so I assumed there were only two. Boon never specifically said that there were only two, only confirmed that there was a second one. So, I actually don’t know how many there are.In post 2458, Alonzo wrote:
So its Gamma whos Lying to throw you under the bus...In post 2457, DrewVa wrote:
We specifically asked and were told there was a second one.In post 2450, Alonzo wrote:Iv just been over the Invite to the boonus round in my confessional thread, no mention of multiple games happening...
I’m assuming there are two each night. I’m not sure how the players are all selected but yeah, Boon confirmed it in our confessional.
There are probably completely different prizes as well. We weren’t informed about anything other than there was 2 rounds.
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Yeah the issue was cleared up. But where DrewVa got that info is the question.In post 2491, mcqueen wrote:
Bro read the thing Ram quoted. Cleared this upIn post 2488, BrightEyedFish wrote:I'm still not buying that DrewVa was told by Boon there was another BOONus round.
Because DrewVa didn't get it from Boon and they didn't get it from the rules post.-
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I don't believe Boon told you in your confessional.In post 2495, DrewVa wrote:
Yes we did and you need to change your name to Dim Eyed Fish.In post 2494, BrightEyedFish wrote:
Yeah the issue was cleared up. But where DrewVa got that info is the question.In post 2491, mcqueen wrote:
Bro read the thing Ram quoted. Cleared this upIn post 2488, BrightEyedFish wrote:I'm still not buying that DrewVa was told by Boon there was another BOONus round.
Because DrewVa didn't get it from Boon and they didn't get it from the rules post.-
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Ok.In post 2497, DrewVa wrote:
And you’ll once again be wrong, just like you were when you scumread us and faked that guilty on Hebi, in Overkill 2.In post 2496, BrightEyedFish wrote:
I don't believe Boon told you in your confessional.In post 2495, DrewVa wrote:
Yes we did and you need to change your name to Dim Eyed Fish.In post 2494, BrightEyedFish wrote:
Yeah the issue was cleared up. But where DrewVa got that info is the question.In post 2491, mcqueen wrote:
Bro read the thing Ram quoted. Cleared this upIn post 2488, BrightEyedFish wrote:I'm still not buying that DrewVa was told by Boon there was another BOONus round.
Because DrewVa didn't get it from Boon and they didn't get it from the rules post.-
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Also.In post 2497, DrewVa wrote:
And you’ll once again be wrong, just like you were when you scumread us and faked that guilty on Hebi, in Overkill 2.In post 2496, BrightEyedFish wrote:
I don't believe Boon told you in your confessional.In post 2495, DrewVa wrote:
Yes we did and you need to change your name to Dim Eyed Fish.In post 2494, BrightEyedFish wrote:
Yeah the issue was cleared up. But where DrewVa got that info is the question.In post 2491, mcqueen wrote:
Bro read the thing Ram quoted. Cleared this upIn post 2488, BrightEyedFish wrote:I'm still not buying that DrewVa was told by Boon there was another BOONus round.
Because DrewVa didn't get it from Boon and they didn't get it from the rules post.
DrewVa tried to use my several fake guilties to discredit me in the BOONus round too and they were Scum there.-
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