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In post 23, Bellaphant wrote:....because? Serious question, I want an actual answer
His reply to Lowell was over complicated IMO, too much thought went into a response to a naked vote. What do you think?-
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In post 73, Nosferatu wrote:In post 63, OceanWind wrote:In post 49, Nosferatu wrote:yeah I also hadn't read your post. Get over yourself.
Assuming you just now remembered this game, why throw down an RVS vote as opposed to offer your thoughts on the non-serious content in the thread?
not RVS.
24/25 <--- who states suspicion only to come back literally an hour later to put a vote down? I could understand if it were a few minutes later and you were like "oh ya, I forgot to vote him actually" but no, he calls him tryhard scum, which is like ¿qué? cause like one thing is saying he was to lengthy in his response to a naked vote, (which I don't even get I mean when did post length become alignment-indicative) but another is calling him tryhard scum based on one post.
You voted for me with a naked vote, having clearly ignored what had happened so far. So I ask you what you think about what's happened to try & get you to comment on it. You say:"Nothing happened". Which we know is untrue as there was a wagon forming on KT & disagreement about that as well. So you hadn't read the thread & no mention of anything I've done & that you voted for me for any reason at this point. Then when pressed on your out of place RVS vote by OceanWind, you say something I did was scummy to come up with a reason for your vote to try & prove that it wasn't. But you already said that nothing had happened & gave no reason for your vote at the time. As for what you've said about me, basically everything you could possibly use about my play so far including timing of my vote, also ignoring any thought about the context of what I may be doing, to try & justify your vote.-
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In post 96, Nosferatu wrote:
I had read what had happened so far. The last game with KT progressed exactly the same way. Someone naked votes him, he overreacts, wagon forms, people argue over the wagon's existence, blah blah blah. So yes. There was nothing unique about the KT wagon and therefore I dismissed it as nothing at all. It's like treating RVS content as significant. It always happens; nothing special about it to comment on.
So yeah, that invalidates the rest of your wall, so there's nothing else to reply to, try harder next time fam
I never asked you specifically about that wagon though. You replied that nothing had happened, that's all encompassing. Your vote was out of place. When questioned about it, suddenly something had happened, convenient considering you needed a reason for your vote after being pressed.-
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I forgot I found it scummy or something?
I reread the thread later & thought I'd put some pressure on.
In post 103, OceanWind wrote:Yeah, I read that post. His question was pretty general:
In post 57, Ollie wrote:Nosferatu what's your take on what's happened so far?
This might have been a good time to engage your then top suspect by pointing out why you voted him rather than answer completely literally that "nothing happened."
Yeah this is what I don't understand. He's voted for me for a reason (he claims). So why wasn't he pressuring me on it when I interacted with him? Because he'd given no reason, & not bothered to bring why he voted me up, he left me with the impression that he was voting for me for no real reason. I thought that was the case, that's what motivated my initial question to him as that struck me as odd as we were past the RVS stage. & does something worthy of a vote count as nothing? & he's said if I asked him a different question, he'd have given a different answer. Well how much more all encompassing could my question be than "What's your take on what's happened so far?" I purposely made it that way to give him a chance to comment on the game in general & his vote for me. & he's making out the fault was in my question & not his answer.-
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In post 107, OceanWind wrote: The one reason I could see for putting down naked votes is to get a reaction from the person you voted. You got that. Then you answered his question literally rather than use it an as opening point to scumhunt, ask him if he knows why you are voting him or question him further.
My "angle" with the question is I want to know why you are not pro-active and need to be prompted by others before you expand on your vote.
Yes! He wasn't scum hunting til pressed by you about his vote. he had no interest in pressing me til then despite having a great opportunity to, which I purposely gave him. I got no bite on it.-
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In post 111, Nosferatu wrote:So what you're telling me is that you actually wanted to know why I voted you but didn't ask?
What I'm telling OceanWind, is that I gave you the chance to press me, explain your vote, & prove that you were engaged in what was going on in the game, & you failed. & what you're telling me is that my question is wrong, not your answer.-
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In post 73, Nosferatu wrote:In post 63, OceanWind wrote:In post 49, Nosferatu wrote:yeah I also hadn't read your post. Get over yourself.
Assuming you just now remembered this game, why throw down an RVS vote as opposed to offer your thoughts on the non-serious content in the thread?
not RVS.
24/25 <--- who states suspicion only to come back literally an hour later to put a vote down? I could understand if it were a few minutes later and you were like "oh ya, I forgot to vote him actually" but no, he calls him tryhard scum, which is like ¿qué? cause like one thing is saying he was to lengthy in his response to a naked vote, (which I don't even get I mean when did post length become alignment-indicative) but another is calling him tryhard scum based on one post.
Nah it's ok mate, this is nothing. Nothing happened here*.
*until later on when you needed reasons for your vote & then it was something that happened.-
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In post 99, Nosferatu wrote:jsyk there's no winning a battle where you're going to tellmewhatImeant in a post.
jsyk there's no 'winning a battle' by saying that my question is wrong & not your answer. & also, what you meant is up for debate.-
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In post 114, Nosferatu wrote:no, I'm saying that your question did not specifically ask for me to explain my vote and therefore I didn't explain it. It is completely normal for me to put a vote down and not explain it until prompted. In Game Shop Mafia, I put a vote down on davesaz and didn't explain it until I was asked much much later. If you want something from me, ask me directly and don't bullshit me with evidently purposefully vague questions in hope that I would answer what you want me to.
You're saying my question was too vague now. You're seriously telling me that you thought the answer I was looking for was what you thought had happened minus the thing that had attracted your attention the most?-
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I never said it wasn't vague, but you're using that as an excuse for answer. Can you answer my question...
In post 118, Ollie wrote:You're seriously telling me that you thought the answer I was looking for was what you thought had happened minus the thing that had attracted your attention the most?-
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In post 120, Ollie wrote:I never said it wasn't vague, but you're using that as an excuse foryouranswer. Can you answer my question...
In post 118, Ollie wrote:You're seriously telling me that you thought the answer I was looking for was what you thought had happened minus the thing that had attracted your attention the most?
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In post 54, Lowell wrote:Magna is going to be annoying as hell, but, unfortunately, is town.
why?
In post 82, Imperium wrote:KT is town.
why?
In post 89, Lowell wrote:Imp, you're town.
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In post 68, Killthestory wrote:
Quick I need more votes on me, or I'll be scumread late game for not being pressured enough!
In post 71, Killthestory wrote:Ocean if you don't vote for me I'm going to death tunnel you
In post 106, Killthestory wrote:God fucking dammit no one's voting me
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In post 77, ChurchOfMercy wrote:In post 68, Killthestory wrote:Fuck this isn't following my town meta
Quick I need more votes on me, or I'll be scumread late game for not being pressured enough!
You should try scumhunting more.
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In post 59, jmo16mla wrote:In post 54, Lowell wrote:Magna is going to be annoying as hell, but, unfortunately, is town.
that was quick.
I like this, it irks me when I see people dishing out town reds so early as well. It looks like they're trying to get people on their side & collect loyal soldiers t help them fight their battles.
It surprises me that jmo's vote an hour after his post never set off Nosferatu's scum vote time criteria. But then again he never had to justify a vote for him did he.
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I dont like him calling out albert as a friend to "get in here"[/quote]
This is another thing... what's the thought process behind doing that? Safety hiding in numbers? What if they're scum?-
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In post 12, KTthecreeper wrote:
Wow this is the best thing I've seen all day this thread
So lets see I've been lynch day 1 75% of the game I've played on this site
So instead of reacting negatively to votes against me I decided to be positive and uplifting.
Apperently when I yell at people for naking voting its scum
When I tell people "thanks" for naked voted its scum.
and I love how "my existence hurts the town" when I literately posted 4 times. The only way you could have a chance of reading someone in 4 post is either if they post a screen shot of their role PM or if you have played 10+ games with them.
Now I'm going to reread the game cringe a little and give my thought on this game.
I'm going to laugh when people say this post is "OMG OBV SCUM LYNCH NOW" I'm just trying to set the record straight that I was experimenting a little so if you find I'm scum with this post then by all means lynch me I could not care less. I mean if I react negative to a vote its scum, if I react positive its scum, if I don't react at all its scum, I don't know anymore.
So you WERE trying too hard, & you say its because you get lynched alot on day 1? I can buy that. Advice: Just play the game, scum hunt, & don't worry so much about how others are reading you. At least not to the extent that you're gonna spend most of your time on the defensive through making overly defensive posts.-
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In post 145, Nosferatu wrote:In post 142, Ollie wrote:It surprises me that jmo's vote an hour after his post never set off Nosferatu's scum vote time criteria.
he was prompted by magna.
& that's less scummy, ok. Makes no sense, but ok.-
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In post 94, Lowell wrote:In post 92, Nosferatu wrote:
lowell: townreading so easily is how I won against you last game as scum fam
This is true. I was admittedly bad that game.
For pointing this out unprompted, I declare you town this game. No guts no glory.
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In post 150, Killthestory wrote:In post 149, Ollie wrote:UNVOTE: KTthecreeper
I'll judge you on your scum hunting, let's see what you've got.
hit em hard champ!
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In post 42, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
In post 27, Lowell wrote:ABR, get in here and help me kill some newbs.
So Lowell do you usually buddy up to ABR? And just for kicks why aren’t you interested in having ABR’s slot help you lynch scum instead of pwning noobs?
I like this. The response was placatory & swerved the question...
In post 54, Lowell wrote:Magna is going to be annoying as hell, but, unfortunately, is town.
But I wanna know the answer. Do you usually buddy up to ABR Lowell & why?-
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In post 137, Ollie wrote:In post 68, Killthestory wrote:
Quick I need more votes on me, or I'll be scumread late game for not being pressured enough!
In post 71, Killthestory wrote:Ocean if you don't vote for me I'm going to death tunnel you
In post 106, Killthestory wrote:God fucking dammit no one's voting me
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In post 157, Lowell wrote:I'm starting to see the Ollie case, if for no other reason than his growing frustration that no one else is voting for obvtown killthestory like he wants us to. And yes, Ollie, I do normally sheep ABR. Because it's fun. You got a problem?
Actually you're just annoyed at me asking you questions. Again; why do you think Imp & Magna town?
I'm not even voting for killthestory, & I can't get any read til I get some content from (her, I think?). My read there null is atm.-
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In post 160, MagnaofIllusion wrote:VOTE: Acryon
Lacks any engagement in the game beyond the Policy Lynch issue. At this stage there is plenty to mine to start forming suspicions.
And what does that mean to you? If you are suggesting it is scummy why didn’t you vote him? You unvoted Creeper at 149 and nothing between this post and that one should have changed your opinion on Creeper. And if it is not scummy why bother posting it at all?
It's definitely a bad start for Acryon, but I wanna see what he does when he actually engages in the game. I was working my way through everyone in isolation, I actually thought it was a unique view point at the time before I read everyone's posts but it wasn't. I could vote there though.
If this is the case why aren’t telling us which player that most likely is?
Yeah that's bad, none-committal. Bellahant goes in the naughty pile.
See this is where you lose me. Because the most damning of the exchange at 22-25 between Bella and Ollie is not that it took him an hour after posting 24 to vote in 25. It’s that he only voted for Creeper at all because Bella repeatedly badgered him about his read. And Nosferatu doesn’t address that element in his 73 at all.
Well kinda true, I only gave more of an opinion about it because I was badgered, I was still in pissing about mode until that.
So Kill being Town would make you sad. Nope nevermind he’s ObvTown and should be followed like a sheep. This makes no sense …
At the risk of stirring Lowell into saying I'm annoyed because I want to kill someone else... clearly the way he plays is gathering a little army together (by giving them a town pat on the head), to give him more sway & help protect him from big baddies. So not sure if we can read anything into that on its own. All we can do is question the fuck out of his town reads I suppose.
And the first part about Ollie being scummy for being frustrated that no-one is voting Kill is terrible logic since
1. Kill repeatedly asked people to vote him.
2. Ollie is clearly not pushing Kill but responding to his “Vote me” spam.
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In post 164, acryon wrote:
This feels like a major stretch. You just said they stated a suspicion, so how could they forget that he thought it was scummy within the same post?
Thank you! It's a load of rubbish isn't it.-
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In post 168, acryon wrote:In post 167, Ollie wrote:In post 164, acryon wrote:
This feels like a major stretch. You just said they stated a suspicion, so how could they forget that he thought it was scummy within the same post?
Thank you! It's a load of rubbish isn't it.
It is, although admittedly your encouraging me here makes me feel worse about you.
You've had a lot to say and done a lot of good questioning for the most part but your vote is still open. Who's scum?
Hang on, working on a reads list as you type. I'll remember not to encourage you any more in the future. I had a gold star sticker & a motivational speech ready for you as well, which you will now never get.-
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Subject to massive change & IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER, so don't go getting smug Magna etc..
Town Leans
MagnaofIllusion- pushing people hard, asking the right questions, seems healthily suspicious of every player in the game, which I like.
KTthecreeper- early wagon puts me off when I mesh that with the explanation for the early vote & the accounts of early KT wagons being common.
OceanWind- had alot of the same questions for Nos as me & articulated some good stuff that I couldn't, so I don't see that as riding on my coat tails.
ChurchofMercy- coulda tried to stick the knife in when I was coming under fire, but said they supported me with no messing about. Wants killthestory to scum hunt, join the club.
Null
Acryon- Bad start but I was right to give him a chance to do something. That something was a great point about Nosferatu. He's pretty much scum reading my town leans list, but hey great point.
jmo- liked that he had a problem with Lowell's early town read but not much else to go on
Killthestory- no content to read
Lowell- his play has been mostly gathering allies, which I don't read either way
Imperium- unsure, not just gonna scum read him for that nonsense about Nosferatu's point being the best yet or whatever but he's an inbetweener atm.
Scum Leans
Bellaphant- Hedging her bets in the little she's posted.
Nosferatu- How long have you got? I'm not convinced yet though. I'm not fucking Lowell am I.
Who have I missed off that list? Can't work out who is playing under a different name.
I can see alot of switching around so no one get pissy me me or I'll cut u.-
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In post 177, acryon wrote:In post 174, Ollie wrote:
Acryon- He's pretty much scum reading my town leans list, but hey great point.
Wow you weren't kidding about this. Can we get on the same page? Why are you giving Church towncred for supporting you when he straight up said he didn't read several pages and skimmed? And is Magna asking the right questions? He actually seems to be jumping on low-hanging fruit and seems overly concerned with his standing amongst the town.
Stop trying to f#ck up my town leans
Good point, you were low hanging fruit but I thought that was a pressure vote to get you engaged, could be wrong.
As for Church I just really appreciated the support at that time, you know. But they could slink back down to null in my next list. Just depends what they do.-
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Bloody, I thought I was seeing things with these two in the vote count. Inactive is an understatement.-
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In post 109, Ollie wrote:
I forgot I found it scummy or something?
I reread the thread later & thought I'd put some pressure on.-
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In post 215, Imperium wrote:
This is a natural human tendency, which is probably why Church would make a move like this. Is there a reason you think that he'd be less likely to do this as scum than town?
The last day 1 I had on this site I only just survived being the lynch after a mafia hydra went after me & got their buddies who usually play with them to team up. They killed me night 1, fooled their 'town block' & won. The start of this game had a similar feel so I was happy to see Church pop up & say I'm town at that point. But yeah it doesn't make Church town. I suppose that slot is null for me on reflection because there are lots of people who've handed out easy town credit in this game. I need to see more from them.-
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In post 224, kelbris wrote:prodding KainTepes and SeshatX. If they do not respond within 24 hours in-thread, then I shall replace them. Thanks to Ollie for bringing this to my attention.
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In post 223, Bellaphant wrote:though I dunno if he's confident enough as scum to make the voting joke he just made. Like, it's super cheeky.
What are you referring to?
@ollie, can you link me to a recent scum game?
My most recent one on here, I was a SK pretending to be a Vig for 3 months, asking town who I should shoot at night etc, pretending I had to lynch a person I marked to get my night kill. I got lynched on the last damn day & mafia won!
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go-
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Just went for the most recent one I remember being scum in Nos, these threads are from ages ago, having to read through to remember what happened. There's over 100 posts to read in that SK one where I was pulling off lie after lie.
Here's my last mafia one from even further back, ended January 2015. I replaced in on day 2 & I was modkilled on day 2 as well haha...
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
This one end of 2014 where I replaced in with 4 votes on my slot (7 to lynch) which was the consensus top scum read, scraped to survival by going after the other wagon leader, then caused havoc the next day when I was considered certain scum after the other guys flip. I was a dead scum posting, but I faked that I thought Mathdino had day viged me, he then thought I was town which got him killed by the town vig. That was fun.
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In post 251, acryon wrote:
Ollie began his 1v1 with Nosferatu, and it seemed clear through the dialogue that Nosferatu was on the backfoot.
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In post 253, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
In post 174, Ollie wrote:
ChurchofMercy- coulda tried to stick the knife in when I was coming under fire, but said they supported me with no messing about. Wants killthestory to scum hunt, join the club.
Why do you see it as something to Town read this slot for? In your argument you are Town. Who is in best position to stick up for a Town under early fire in your mind?
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In post 220, Ollie wrote:In post 215, Imperium wrote:
This is a natural human tendency, which is probably why Church would make a move like this. Is there a reason you think that he'd be less likely to do this as scum than town?
The last day 1 I had on this site I only just survived being the lynch after a mafia hydra went after me & got their buddies who usually play with them to team up. They killed me night 1, fooled their 'town block' & won. The start of this game had a similar feel so I was happy to see Church pop up & say I'm town at that point. But yeah it doesn't make Church town. I suppose that slot is null for me on reflection because there are lots of people who've handed out easy town credit in this game. I need to see more from them.-
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In post 249, ChurchOfMercy wrote:Lack of engagement isn't scummy.
My attention is mostly focused on dating right now
Mafia is falling to the wayside
I will coordinate with Klingon in our PT and offer my thoughts and criticisms. If you all want to gang up on us before we get a footing, that's your right of course. You can win without us, I believe in you.
Albert
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In no order, bit more solid than my last reads...
Town Leans
MagnaofIllusion- Still pushing people hard, asking the right questions, seems healthily suspicious of every player in the game.
OceanWind- No change (had alot of the same questions for Nos as me & articulated some good stuff that I couldn't, so I don't see that as riding on my coat tails)
Imperium- The highest riser in my charts. Excellent reading of the early dynamic with me & Bella. Didn't just drop what he was on about earlier but did drop it after following up, which anyone reasonable would. Townie trait to constantly reassess your reads & not just tunnel like a dick head.
Killthestory- Is now providing plenty of content which is helpful. I think this slot is town because of the form of the arrogance displayed towards Church, exemplified best in post 250 (top of page 11).
Acryon- He WAS low hanging fruit to be fair. Has a habit of making good points, most recently about Church. Has come under fire but he has my support. (but not my encouragement)
Null
- The early wagon puts me off scum reading when I mesh that with the explanation for the early vote & the accounts of early KT wagons being common. But now I realize there was no scum hunting in your posts you can't be town yet.
KTthecreeper
ChurchofMercy- Not much aggression coming out of this slot, could be a sitting duck as a result. They really need to get on the front foot in this game. I do want them to be town but I can see why alot of others are getting stuck into them.
jmo- I liked that he had a problem with Lowell's early town read but not much else to go on. May move into my scum pile if he doesn't start doing more stuff soon though. The stuff he has said has been a bit short & snappy, maybe so he doesn't give too much away.
KainTepes and SeshatX- The life & soul of the party.
Scum Leans
Lowell- Oh look, someone's been relegated. Evasive when questioned in this game, most recent example being in post 264 when he shuts down Magna's reasonable request for some more observations. You don't wanna be town read? You won't be then.
Bellaphant- She asked me for a recent town game, made no comment on it later. I mean I could be wrong but that looks like she wasn't really that bothered. I'm not gonna force you to read one of the games I provided for you Bella, but if you never read or now don't want to after all, tell me why. & what made you ask?
Nosferatu- I wanted to be able to pat myself on the head for being objective & at least move you into the null list. But the only new thing is taking a bite at poor Acryon after killethestory had voted for him. So there's nothing overtly town that warrants it a change I'm just left with the early scummy stuff. Can I see a full list of your reads, is that reasonable? I don't see you interacting with many people.-
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In post 423, Killthestory wrote:I want wagons split between Bella and Severa
Not Severa, she's new & I have no read on her yet. Bella & Nosferatu wagons. Then one of my two top scum leans flips.
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In post 427, Killthestory wrote:
Nos is a wild card. I could easily see him scumteaming with Bella since he's not playing aggressively or scumhunting at all and arguing on shitty things. Some of his posts strike me as off in the gut too.
> reasons for Severa-
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In post 513, Xisiqomelir wrote:Can you order the remainder of your scum-leaning list of {Lowell,Bellaphant} for me? Are they scum together, assuming you are correct about Nosferatu?
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In post 519, Nosferatu wrote:
Also Ollie could you answer this if you haven't done so already?
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In post 160, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
In post 76, Bellaphant wrote:Mm, benefit of the doubt is he was waiting for a response from me, but it was super weird. Kt's defensiveness is not something I've seen from them, but I've played with them twice and were an easy mislynch once and a modkill the second time.
One of the votes on him is prolly scum.
If this is the case why aren’t telling us which player that most likely is?
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In post 518, Nosferatu wrote:In post 514, Ollie wrote:In post 513, Xisiqomelir wrote:Can you order the remainder of your scum-leaning list of {Lowell,Bellaphant} for me? Are they scum together, assuming you are correct about Nosferatu?
1. Bella 2. Lowell. I have no link for them.
I can see a link from me to Lowell
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Revisiting my last reads list...
Lowell your response to this...
In post 265, Ollie wrote:
Lowell- Oh look, someone's been relegated. Evasive when questioned in this game, most recent example being in post 264 when he shuts down Magna's reasonable request for some more observations. You don't wanna be town read? You won't be then.
was this...
In post 266, Lowell wrote:@Ollie- glad you agree with my scum reads, basically.
But BTW, I've seen way too many "participation-hunters" be way off the mark. That you're concerned so much about other people's participation makes me think you're looking for an easy target.
Why did you not address directly what I said about you? If town I thought that was a good point for you to think to yourself: "Ok I'll actually allow people to town read me cos I'm town after all". Instead you generalize about my list... You say I'm looking for an easy target but I don't think I have any in my scum pile. There are definitely easier targets than a guy buddied up to several people who'd gathered little interest from others like you, Nos showed himself very willing to defend himself up to that point, & although she's attracted alot of interest, I've not used lack of participation against Bella in that list, she was involved by that point. People I'd not seen much from were in my null section. So where was the evidence of that? It just looks like you were trying to discredit my list cos you were a scum lean.
You're not in my scum pile for lack of participation but let's go down the participation route now, why have you bothered gathering allies if you're not gonna do anything with them? You had/have some people willing to work with you, great scum hunting conditions... you started doing that & then, well, nothing much.
At least Lowell responded to me...
In post 265, Ollie wrote:Nosferatu- Can I see a full list of your reads, is that reasonable? I don't see you interacting with many people
Nos, you can't tell me you never read this considering you (still) only really seem interested in my posts, everyone reads posts about them & Bella in fact has town read you for your 'eye for detail'. Since my vote for you, you found a reason to unvote me & you haven't pushed anyone else. Let's see a reads list from you please. A comprehensive one. I'm not convinced you're really trying to find scum. Convince me.-
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In post 532, Nosferatu wrote:In post 520, Ollie wrote:
In post 160, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
In post 76, Bellaphant wrote:Mm, benefit of the doubt is he was waiting for a response from me, but it was super weird. Kt's defensiveness is not something I've seen from them, but I've played with them twice and were an easy mislynch once and a modkill the second time.
One of the votes on him is prolly scum.
If this is the case why aren’t telling us which player that most likely is?
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I fail to see how this is her hedging.
Playing it safe would have been a more accurate way to sum up my feelings on that in hindsight. That point Magna made brought it to my attention. OW has uncovered more evidence of that here...
In post 539, OceanWind wrote:
In post 529, Bellaphant wrote:irt to lowell: firstly, my role pm, secondly the push on kt (eaaaaasy bait), immediate townread on magna, imp, ollie, kts, scum-reads with no reasoning: I had like ten posts this morning to his 18, but I feel I've provided some content (and more now), rather than the lack of info with lowell.
If you found Lowell's push on KTthecreeper scummy, why didn't you say anything about it then? You only said "one of the votes on him is probably scum" (Post 76). When specifically asked which vote you found scummy, you were still vague about it "I can easily see scum pushing a mislynch and with four votes, it's probable that one may be'(Post 223).
It wasn't much then but now a pattern is emerging, & two of my strongest town leans have picked up on it.-
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In post 542, Nosferatu wrote:I don't assign everyone reads and order them in readlists. I focus on a limited amount of people at a time. I haven't given a readlist since I don't usually perceive games like that.
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