Thanks! I think ... this is one of those "Not the welcome back you deserve but the welcome back you need" things, right?
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In post 27, Lowell wrote:ABR, get in here and help me kill some newbs.
In post 43, acryon wrote:
Who says it can't be both? And I also KT is a player that heavily disrupts the flow of information, so his death D1 is a win either way.
In post 46, acryon wrote:
No, but having played with him more than once, I don't think it would be absurd to say that his death early is almost as good, if not better, for town as a scum-death.
In post 49, Nosferatu wrote:yeah I also hadn't read your post. Get over yourself.
In post 52, Nosferatu wrote:
Uh yeah, it was coincidence. You are not so strong a presence that I would go and post specifically becauseyousaid I wasn't here. I was posting in other threads, why do you think I would post there and not here?
In post 59, jmo16mla wrote:In post 54, Lowell wrote:Magna is going to be annoying as hell, but, unfortunately, is town.
that was quick.
In post 63, OceanWind wrote:
1. Do you think Lowell's townread on you makes sense?
2. Why didn't you follow up on your previous question to Lowell?
In post 136, Ollie wrote:acryon advocated a KainTepes policy lynch & has done nothing else.
In post 76, Bellaphant wrote:Mm, benefit of the doubt is he was waiting for a response from me, but it was super weird. Kt's defensiveness is not something I've seen from them, but I've played with them twice and were an easy mislynch once and a modkill the second time.
One of the votes on him is prolly scum.
In post 66, Imperium wrote:
I think that this is probably more likely to come from town than scum; it's pretty obviously an overreaction but KT is a newer player and I find that newer players tend to trend towards less words as scum, not more.
Paying more attention to yourself is a pretty common scumtell (playing for survival instead of playing to find scum); the only way this case works against Lowell is if you think that he is both aware of that tendency and that it would factor into his reads while pushing a page 2 read. I don't really think this is the case.
In post 79, Imperium wrote:This is probably the best point in thread so far.
In post 90, Lowell wrote:I'm also a little worried CoM might be scum. Which makes me sad. And that Killthestory might be town. Which makes me sadder.
In post 157, Lowell wrote:I'm starting to see the Ollie case, if for no other reason than his growing frustration that no one else is voting for obvtown killthestory like he wants us to. And yes, Ollie, I do normally sheep ABR. Because it's fun. You got a problem?
I have new leader now, though, and his name is killthestory. Obvtown. VOTE: CoM I tend to think team CoM would be having a little more fun were they down. I'm getting a bit of the deflated-after-receiving-scum-role vibe from them. Which I feel is especially pronounced in hydras.
In post 164, acryon wrote:
I'll be honest that post was annoying enough to push me away but I'm not going to rob the town because you're being foolish.
SNIP other quotes for length’s sake …
-Killthestory is town.
-OceanWind is scum. Felt like jumping on the coat-tails of Ollie.
-Undecided on Nosferatu, and I'll admit I'm having a hard time because I think most of her accusers are very annoying.
-Not sure about Magna but his vote on me is truly terrible. The fact that anyone joined in on this absurd reasoning is insane. I have never one time seen someone use a content/activity argument based on the first 24-hour period of the game, and there is definitely a reason for that.
-ChurchOfMercy did ping me in 139. Certainly doesn't feel like ABR at all, just giving everyone a pass.
General thoughts: Several people going back and forth so much this early makes me think scum is going to have an easy time hiding this game. Also a PSA: Just because you've clogged up the game with 30 posts on D1 doesn't mean everyone can or should.
VOTE: OceanWind
In post 177, acryon wrote:He actually seems to be jumping on low-hanging fruit and seems overly concerned with his standing amongst the town.
In post 203, acryon wrote:
Oh I didn't see this but that's easy:
In post 60, MagnaofIllusion wrote:In post 59, jmo16mla wrote:In post 54, Lowell wrote:Magna is going to be annoying as hell, but, unfortunately, is town.
that was quick.
So what do you think that means then?
Indirectly about you, but still about you.
In post 160, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
HeyOcean– why is it that you’ve read everyone’s ISO at 143 and yet I don’t see any mention of me at all in your reads list?
In post 207, acryon wrote:
What else you got? Oh and you don't have to keep telling me the vote is staying. I'll know when you take it off
In post 209, acryon wrote:lol "you fluffed through your first 6 posts of the game and then once the game actually got going, BAM you are active. Scum. Got em." It's almost as if I contribute more when there is more to talk about and it isn't the literal first 24 hours of the game.
Now let's get back to actually finding scum.
In post 223, Bellaphant wrote:In terms of votes on KT, iirc he was a day 1 mislynch the game I played with him, although I'm glad to say he's settled in a bit. I wasn't trying to be vague, 'one of the votes on him is scum and I'm not saying which', but 'due to my past experience with KT, I can easily see scum pushing a mislynch and with four votes, it's probable that one may be'.
In post 174, Ollie wrote:
ChurchofMercy- coulda tried to stick the knife in when I was coming under fire, but said they supported me with no messing about. Wants killthestory to scum hunt, join the club.
In post 215, Imperium wrote:I don't think it's fair to say that the only reason that Ollie voted for Creeper is because Bella badgered him about the read; I feel like it'd be more fair to say that Bella forced him to look seriously at KT. After all, the only commentary Ollie offered on KT when Bella asked him to play seriously was "he's creepy", which was obviously a joke: he could have said that he didn't have a read, and that would have been reasonable, or he could have offered a weak lean one way or another and done nothing about it and it still would have been reasonable. The reason that I thought that the observation about Ollie coming back and voting KT later was the best line of thought to follow in game because it meant that Ollie left the game, came back to the game, and noticed something that he didn't before. The reasoning that he offered (that he decided that adding pressure was better than not) makes sense; the possible scum motivation that I had in mind when pursuing was that he possible looked at the exchange between him and Bella and thought it looked a bit weak and added the vote to make his play line up with his words.
Does that make sense?
In post 176, acryon wrote:Ugh I want to vote you very badly, but I fear you may just be overeager town.
In post 191, acryon wrote:Hey you're super town and I am too. Just need to give me a minute.
In post 177, acryon wrote:He actually seems to be jumping on low-hanging fruit and seems overly concerned with his standing amongst the town.
In post 207, acryon wrote:In the case of Ocean, there were plenty of things in his readslist you could have asked about, but instead were only interested in where you stood on it. If your goal was just to assess his analysis, why not start with what he did do and not what he didn't do? (which also happens to be about you)
In post 244, ChurchOfMercy wrote:You guys, I'm known for being useless Day1, NAI. I'm more of a Day3 player.
In post 243, ChurchOfMercy wrote:Kain, on the other hand, has been pretty active elsewhere on the site today.
VOTE: KainTepes
In post 246, ChurchOfMercy wrote:If you have skills, please start using them. This hydra isn't Scum.
Bellaphant probably is.
In post 250, Killthestory wrote:dude im literally too good.
church youre getting lynched today you scumlords
In post 254, acryon wrote:
I think the reasoning is terrible. But there is often a fine line between reasoning being bad and scummy, and that was toeing it.
There's a difference between jokingly and clearly mentioning it in passing as opposed to doing it in the form of a question as to not look like you're doing it.
At the time I was a low hanging fruit. I think once you get a closer look you'll realize I'm not, but that doesn't mean I wasn't at the time within the context of the game.
Eh can't help but disagree with you here. I don't think that means he fabricated it at all. If anything it's more likely to be real since if he made it up he probably would have just listed all the players and made comments. Easier to miss one if you're going through ISO's one by one and accidentally skip over a name.
In post 256, acryon wrote:
2. Well I think it's very clear either way that it's a stretch to compare it to what I'm accusing you of, because they look completely different.
3. You're acting as if 1) perception doesn't matter and 2) status doesn't change. As for perception, being or not being low-hanging fruit has a lot to do with the overall town's perception of someone as such. Low-hanging fruit doesn't have a strict definition in mafia since the game is so fluid and differs so much from game to game. In the situation of me, I was a low-hanging fruit to you at the time because I hadn't had a real chance to even post something non-RVS yet you jumped on me for not doing so. Players are not strictly low-hanging fruit or not low-hanging fruit.
In post 258, Lowell wrote:@magna- that was a long-ass post to just say you agree with the wagon.
In post 267, OceanWind wrote:I don't have an issue with you asking me about why I left you off the list. But having a townread in not appeasement. If I was townreading you, why would I say anything else?
Also, I don't really understand what your issue is with Acryon saying that he is hard to lynch but that people might have attacked him thinking he was low-hanging fruit because he hadn't done much of anything in the first few pages.
In post 301, ChurchOfMercy wrote:Have you played any games with Kain? There's a difference between lack of engagement and not bothering to show up at all.
"And you are calling Bella scum while not voting for her …"
Be-cause ... we ... are ... vo-ting ... for ... Kain. Derp.
In post 312, Severa wrote:I am fine with a ChurchOfMercy lynch today.
I'm diffident about whether to read through for other scumreads as well before seeing the flip.
In post 317, Severa wrote:Nothing is scummy about it at all because if I were scum I wouldn't care about the flip!
#bestlogic
In post 340, KTthecreeper wrote:Hello sorry I haven't been on in the past few days, some things popped up
So I'm going to read the thread a few times and make a read list on my thought so far
In post 344, Jim wrote:I'm not particularly sure this tell is something we should be chasing rather than trying to sort out what has already been occurring. Why did you choose to ignore taking a side on the KT and Lowell debacle?
In post 344, Jim wrote:Is this a common scum tactic you've seen? Turning around immediately after they are called out for doing or not doing something to then right the wrong and abate some of the suspicion? Forgive me, but I fail to see what scum would ever do something like that.
In post 352, Imperium wrote:Magna, what is your read on jmo?
In post 359, Imperium wrote:
This makes sense; I guess that my scumread on him was mostly founded on previous experience with him (he's not usually this disconnected from a game) and thought maybe that OW's townread on jmo was him protecting a scumpartner in a better position than Church, but now I'm coming around to the fact that I'm probably getting too ahead of myself, hence not minding this Day going a bit longer so I can get a better bead on some of the lower volume posters.
In post 363, Killthestory wrote:VOTE: Jim
In post 375, Killthestory wrote:man CoM should die just for the sake of being annoying
In post 373, ChurchOfMercy wrote:Here, let me help you with that:
Low-volume means volume, just not a lot of it. Some players actually make just one or two short posts per day on this site. The posts generally contain some content.
This is opposed to a flake, someone that completely ignores the game.
How can you not see that the flake is clearly scummier than the low-volume?
In post 364, Jim wrote:Newer scum players sometimes have issues immersing themselves in a game. Given that RVS is predominately injokes and sarcasm, that's often viewed as the best way to get into a game. The vote's not the cause for it, the immersion is.
In post 426, Severa wrote:Severa has explained her scumread on the ABR/Klingon hydra!
Focus must not be diverted. Let's lynch scum, kay?
In post 396, Jim wrote:I would like to end the day shortly after KT gives us his reads list.
In post 405, Jim wrote:I attributed my discrepancies with him to Lowell by mistake.
In post 405, Jim wrote:Upon reading back, I realize I was mixing up people. That being said, I need to rearrange some of my list. It's Ollie and Magna, and the reason is because they were using the same strategy to approach the game, where it makes sense for one to be scum but not both.
In post 400, ChurchOfMercy wrote:You've been here 4 years longer than I and you don't know site or player meta? Hmph.
Some players are known for playing like trolls.
Let's just say certain ones are more likely to disappear when they roll Scum.
In post 413, Killthestory wrote:VOTE: Bellaphant
Everyone get the fuck off Com before I fucking deathtunnel you
In post 446, Killthestory wrote:Are you fucking stupid? I was the one who started the CoM fucking wagon and put the most pressure on him. I just feel he's town, and that Bella is definitely scum
In post 455, Killthestory wrote:the way she's playing feels scum. i dont know why, but it does.
and if i try to put it into words here it wouldn't make sense or wouldn't be enough to push her lynch
In post 469, OceanWind wrote:Are you saying that you think Jim made up that explanation after the fact?
In post 491, acryon wrote:I don't like this at all. At least one of these is bad. It doesn't make sense for it to be KTS at this point and I still feel like he's town, so my voting intent stays on CoM.
In post 471, Imperium wrote:In 349, I asked CoM to join me in making a jmo push. Albert said that he'd talk to Klingon about it, and then never brought it up again.
I found this interaction as far more likely to be indicative of partners than Killthestory suddenly deciding to not scum read Church for unknown reasons, especially considering how CoM followed Killthestory onto Bella and egged him on in the way that they did; I think CoM would be more careful to tie themselves to a partner in a strong position, especially if Killthestory decided that he was going to stop bussing them for a little while.
In post 495, Severa wrote:MoI and KTS are just both such... intolerable players.
In post 507, Xisiqomelir wrote:I approve of Lowell, Imperium and MoI on the COM wagon, ergo I approve of the wagon itself, but I believe there is still ample time to probe various posters' opinions.
In post 510, Xisiqomelir wrote:
Yes, they are strongly possible scum and I am willing to vote them once the deadline drops to 3 days.
As a player here since the beginning I would like to ask you what behaviours and stances you think I should pay attention to as I look at this thread.
In post 528, SnarkySnowman wrote:ChurchofMercy is interesting, because I see a lot of associatives with them (and a lot of info to be gained from that lynch), but I don't necessarily think they're scum, so I'd like to consider. Let me read that one a little more thoroughly.
Severa, on the other hand, has done almost nothing and I feel like that's a particularly worthy lynch, if we run up against it. Also, UNVOTE:
In post 532, Nosferatu wrote:I fail to see how this is her hedging.
In post 561, Xisiqomelir wrote:I know MoI pretty well. He is equally querulous and irascible as both town and other alignments, but is more likely as town than scum to make posts like:
In post 568, Nosferatu wrote:I only saw her say there was scum on the kt wagon once, but saying there's scum on a wagon and not identifying scum on the wagon isn't hedging. It's not following through.
In post 583, Nosferatu wrote:It's hard reading read progression of hydras when I don't know who is who.
In post 571, Lowell wrote:^^^ this is a scummy post
In post 576, Severa wrote:I'm incredibly skeptical of SnarkySnowman putting me as sole confirmed scum with current levels of content from my slot.
Feels like an attempt to generate a counterwagon. CoM flips scum that's my first priority.
In post 620, Severa wrote:Stop lynching CoM today please.
In post 619, Severa wrote:I'm saying that you /can't legitimately be scumhunting/ because you wouldn't come to me as your sole scumread based on that.
In post 596, Severa wrote:For the record, 'day 3 player' is another way of saying 'I can't scumhunt without associatives!'
In post 619, Severa wrote:Yes, I have not given a strong read on anyone besides the two of you. I don't have a strong read on anyone besides the two of you. I scumread CoM, he's getting lynched, I'm in no rush to do massive reading with no flip.
In post 640, Severa wrote:
If I wanted to derail the CoM wagon I'd have done it long before he was at L-1.
In post 644, Severa wrote:Are you just insipidly foolish or scum?
I mean I know you're insipidly foolish but are you scum as well?
SS basically scumclaimed and I want to lynch him. I would have absolutely no issues going back and lynching CoM after a SS lynch.
But that's my priority at this time because SS is 100% scum whereas CoM is only like 85%ish.
In post 646, Severa wrote:If CoM flips town doc me so I can powerlynch this and SS.
This is the most blatant chainsaw I've seen in my life.
In post 973, Nosferatu wrote::v I'll hammer if no objections to waiting
In post 657, OceanWind wrote:We had no trouble getting ChurchOfMercy up to L-1. People kept unvoting because they didn't want them in hammer range but for the vast majority of the day, ChurchOfMercy was the default lynch option. It's only now that another option emerged. What trouble are you talking about?
In post 657, OceanWind wrote:Are you saying Severa is mafia with ChurchOfMercy or that he's mafia in the event ChurchOfMercy flips town? If the former, do you think he was bussing?
My townread on him comes from how he reacted to the case on him. The sudden aggression looked like town that thought they finally found something strong to push on. Severa wasn't in any real danger of being lynched so I don't know why he as mafia would panic at SnarkySnowman catching him and push back hard rather than stay on the bus/mislynch of ChurchOfMercy and put off Snarky for the following day.
In post 988, SnarkySnowman wrote:VOTE: Severa
Nothing has really changed for me overnight. This still needs rope.
In post 528, SnarkySnowman wrote:Town {MagnaofIllusion, Oceanwind, Ollie}
Townlean {Bellephant, Jim, acryon, Killthestory}
Scumlean {Lowell, Imperium, Nosferatu, ChurchofMercy}
Scum {Severa}
In post 1021, SnarkySnowman wrote:Can we all stop dragging our feet and vote Severa?
In post 1015, Bellaphant wrote:Can you explain this for me? Last I heard, com was 'bussing' me.
Like, you've never explained this.
@Sev, I asked you a bunch of questions yesterday and you said you weren't interested in talking. You gonna bother now?
In post 1017, Killthestory wrote:MoI is the worst scumhunter I've ever met. Well, maybe just pretty bad.
Also, Several still scum. Way too easy to see
In post 1029, OceanWind wrote:I'd appreciate comments on my case.
In post 1062, Imperium wrote:Also I am reminded that yesterday nacho thought that severa outing her alt to us looked townish.
In post 1170, Imperium wrote:But. Ranger would have no idea what Magna's scum game or town game looked like. He's been gone since 2012 and just came back. He doesn't have a finished game to his name since Ranger has been around.
In post 1133, Ranger wrote:I'm starting my readthrough now, but I think Drunk RC is town and I think that if he's calling SS a scummy scumperson, SnarkySnowman was probably a scummy scumperson.
In post 1156, Ranger wrote:I know, according to the wiki, that means I'm one scumread short. It also means I'm townreading one player I shouldn't be. That's what the remaining 12 pages are hopefully for.
In post 1186, Imperium wrote:Magna - This is what Nacho was referencing. I played with RC in newbie 1672 a couple months ago. He outed himself to me here, which Nacho thought was townish.
I don't agree with the practice as I think if you're going to play as an alt, you should play as an alt either secret to everyone or public to everyone and not out meta knowledge you wouldn't know.
But, outing that to me did let us know who he was right off the bat and therefore we had knowledge of his play style we wouldn't have otherwise. Nacho will probably explain this better though.
In post 1199, Killthestory wrote:lol at all these sudden scumreads
In post 1197, Imperium wrote:You're acting like you're not a well-established player recreating herself under a new alt. Everyone knows who you are, and no matter how much you deny it when people point it out to you and your main, you keep making posts like this that betray the fact that you have been here for years.
In post 1195, Ranger wrote:While it's true, he hasn't been as, shall we say, aggressive as is typical of his town game, the way he acknowledged it felt town to me as well. I got the impression his "I don't really care" attitude was still present, just in a more laid-back, casual manner. When he has pushed, his pushes look like they're in that specific mind set, one of, essentially, "I'm not doing much, but this feels right, and I don't care what others think of it". Admittedly, I don't have too many games with Killthestory, like three or so town games and one scum game, but this simply...doesn't feel the same as what he did in Longnight.
In post 1195, Ranger wrote:I get that you don't like the idea of some random player being able to peg you, but...
I can peg you.
And you're not scum this game.
I'm even more sure of it now.
In post 1195, Ranger wrote:Wrong. I cannot explain why at this time, but RC's description of SnarkySnowman's behavior made me want to vote SnarkySnowman, for a very specific reason. As in, very, very, VERY specific reason. I wish I could tell you now. I probably will be able to tell you before this game's over, maybe not by the end of this game day but probably before this game would end, and when I can tell you I have every intention to because this was actually one of the reasons why I scumread SnarkySnowman in the first place and it's very frustrating that I can't tell you why yet.
In post 1195, Ranger wrote:Because if I was scum, I'd know who my scumteam had killed.
I thought Xisiqomelir's slot was alive the entire time I was reading D1. There wasn't a single hint to suggest he was dead. The OP listed ChurchOfMercy as lynched, but there was no nightkill listed. My name was edited into the OP, so I knew the OP had been edited recently, and assumed it was up-to-date. With only one person listed as dead, the assumption would therefore be there was no kill last night.
In post 1201, RadiantCowbells wrote:
no energy.
morning?
I'm legit on V/LA on top of my exhausstion with mafia ftr.
In post 1210, Ranger wrote:Not permanently. But temporarily, for a short while? (Like two weeks or so.) Yes.
In post 1210, Ranger wrote:The kill happened after I replaced in, yes.
In post 1245, Nosferatu wrote:MoI are you like visually impaired?
In post 1244, RadiantCowbells wrote:MoI, you're seriously going to try to fight my reads?
I will lynch you if this is going to be a thing.
In post 1249, OceanWind wrote:
And this is why Snarky is mafia with or without RadiantCowbells. He can't string together two sentences on his reads elsewhere despite being asked multiple times. His entire focus on the game begins and ends with RadiantCowbells simply repeating that Radiant is mafia, and he never follows up on any questions asked about his other reads.
There's nobody in the game that I'm currently reading as town though so I need to reset. I'm not sure where I'm going wrong.
In post 1251, OceanWind wrote:1. Post 1213 - He tells me that killthestory caused him to change his read on Bellaphant. He tells me to go find the quote myself since he's clearly too lazy to do it.
2. Post 1216 - After I bring up the relevant post to show that there is no case, rather than admit he made a mistake or clarify what he meant, he claims that killthestory brought up a "great discussion about lynching Bellaphant." You can look at the post yourself and see that there's absolutely no reason given as to why killthestory thought Bellaphant was mafia. There's a big heading telling us that we're lynching Bellaphant followed by a list of killthestory's reads with some associatives to Bellaphant. This tells me Snowman is talking out of his ass. There was nothing there that could have possibly changed his read which makes it more likely his reads are just made up.
In post 1251, OceanWind wrote:3. Additionally, his argument that "Bellaphant was a good information lynch, what information did we gain from lynching ChurchOfMercy?" is directly contradictory to his statement D1 that ChurchOfMercy was a great information lynch with lots of associatives.
In post 1251, OceanWind wrote:On RadiantCowbells: Some players prefer playing town and have trouble staying engaged when they are mafia. For those type of players, it would be alignment indicative if they posted selectively in some games. Radiant doesn't strike me as that kind of player considering how much he talks up his scumplay.
I'm not impressed by Radiant's responses to my case which basically amount to "I'm too good to make these mistakes." I'm not townreading Radiant and I'm not even discounting the possibility of bussing but those posts by Snarky put him over Radiant as my strongest suspect. I'd like to hear what you think of them.
In post 1252, OceanWind wrote:Also, @MagnaOfIllusion - who are your next suspects after killthestory and why?
In post 1259, Ranger wrote:Well when you put it that way...yes. I suppose I can understand the hesitance given that.
In post 1259, Ranger wrote:If you tried selling me on, say, Nosferatu being scum, you'd stand a chance.
A chance. Not a guarantee, just a chance.
Voting Lowell or Imperium I can do without convincing being necessary. Only those two.
You're trying to push a lynch on one of my strongest townreads.
So, no.
In post 1259, Ranger wrote:And you're conveniently leaving the part out where if I was scum I'd have known who my partners killed because being scum means having access to the scum PT, which any scum player with so much as HALF a brain reads FIRST.
My point is, if I was scum, I'd have access to the mafia topic.
The mafia topic would contain discussion of the kill, and every mafia topic I've ever seen has allowed the mafia to submit night actions through it.
Ergo, if I had read the mafia topic, I would know who they had killed.
I did not know Xisiqomelir had been killed.
So your options are I am scum who for some ungodly reason chose not to read the mafia topic (which I have a history of reading first upon replacing in, which I can prove by my past scum game replace-ins that have daytalk),
Or that I'm town that did not have a mafia topic to see the kill in.
Ergo, town.
In post 1269, OceanWind wrote:Okay, how does Snarky change his read on Bella from his "townlean" group to his "scumlean" group based on kill saying "Acryon is auto-town if Bella is mafia?" It's not that he put faith in the post or that he was more willing to lynch Bellaphant because of that post. He actually changed his read due to it.
It looks to me like he is mafia faking reads on players including a townlean on Bellaphant. When he saw killthestory make that big heading saying that we're lynching Bella, he skimmed through it, assumed it was a "case," and changed his read so he could hop on the wagon if it took off whether it was a bus or a mislynch.
In post 1269, OceanWind wrote:I also don't understand why you are currently townreading him so I'd appreciate an explanation, especially considering you pointed out that he was posting in other games on V/LA, not engaging with this game, tunneling on Snarky, etc. What is compelling enough to outweigh all of these things and make him a townread for you?
In post 1302, Killthestory wrote:stop with self meta.
I personally don't care. I evaluate you based off your actions in this game, and how they correlate with what I've personally seen or felt. Any thing else means literally nothing to me.
In post 1270, Ollie wrote:My posts don't lack content & I've made more of them than you, so I don't know what you mean by a low content poster if I'm in that group. Elaborate?
Read what I said about Lowel here 1207 & tell me why you're not voting for him?
In post 1279, Ranger wrote:For the issue to be delayed until I would be able to explain.
The matter of a time frame didn't cross my mind.
In post 1342, Ollie wrote:That wasn't a defence, I wanted clarification on why you lumped me in with them, because I don't belong in that group. I've given as much content as the lot of them put together. It'd make sense if the game started on day 2, but my ISO of past posts is available.
In post 1344, Ollie wrote:He's counter attacked me, & with totally untrue shit. There's a significant difference.
In post 1348, RadiantCowbells wrote:You're first on that list, MoI.