Open 446: C9++ (Avast! Viruses!) - GAME OVER

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Kill

Demon Core

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are you scum this game ?

(i honestly don't know the flavor for day-vigs anyways)

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Claim: Serial Killer

trololololololololo jk

VOTE: Bitmap

Seems legit

the bro just won a game as sk

... hes a dangerous one

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VOTE: Elmo TeH AzN

We still quick lynching me?

No. You ruined it by posting

UNVOTE:

Why did you claim so early bitmap? I am getting the feeling you are a dangerous MYLO player. Would you agree with this Statement, or is this just. Thing you have going with the pony?

yer out!

VOTE: DeathYoshi

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applejack + doomyoshi scum partners?

mb

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man good thing our innocent child has tons of opinions

applejack are you scum?

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its a personality test ;P

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mafia semantics... don't go down that road

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specifically, i was referring more to the "i don't have to worry about being lynched" bit.

rainbowdash has suggested an early game alliance before (pre-crash) and i was pretty sure she was town then

but fuck meta yo'

i'm more worried about mr. yoshi over here

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i sure do love applejack:

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cya

VOTE: Siveure DtTrikyp

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well that was a pointless post

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nvm

VOTE: DoomYoshi

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ill respond cause yolo.

Wait, what? I will judge by your answer to this question whether are not you take this game seriously, as I am borderline on ignoring you completely already.

k

I am not focusing on his serial killer claim. I am obviously referring to his claim of vanilla. If on page 2 a player has already asked a ridiculous question for no reason and then claimed, I don't want them around near the end of the game. However, bitmap didn't answer the question.

this is bad

Yet now you aren't voting for either of us? What made you think this?

am i scum for having multiple scum reads?

Why are you worried about me?

you posts are bad. im trying to discern if its because you are scum or not

Why are you voting someone who already claimed? Don't you think it's a bit early to end the day with a lynch?

ugh

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i challenge you to wallfest '12, mr. yoshi

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VOTE: elmo

Speedlynch Go! Go! Go!

why speedlynch elmo? what history do you have with him?

VOTE: Elmo TeH AzN

We still quick lynching me?

No. You ruined it by posting

UNVOTE:

Why did you claim so early bitmap? I am getting the feeling you are a dangerous MYLO player. Would you agree with this Statement, or is this just. Thing you have going with the pony?

what did he ruin? how does him posting during a speed lynch affect his alignment?

Actually, I'm town. I know I'm town. Me being lynched D1 doesn't matter at all. It feels like Open 421 all over again.

VOTE: RBD

Oh no, here it is.

why did you interpret it as a claim? i say even PR's don't matter in being lynched as long as it leads to a scum lynch

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lets hear more people comment pls

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Now she want a photo
You already know though
You only live once: that’s the motto nigga YOLO
We bout it every day, every day, every day
Like we sittin’ on the bench, nigga we don’t really play
Every day, every day, fuck what anybody say
Can’t see 'em 'cause the money in the way
Real nigga what's up?

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d3f3nd3r is vigbait

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d3f3nd3r
is
vigbait

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am i scum for having multiple scum reads?

Nope, you're anti-town for being too jumpy with your vote.

Only scum have to worry about being perceived as anti-town. A flip will justify my actions.

Who is scum and who is town?

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Mafia semantics. No point in arguing

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Well that's not nice, why me?

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phew good thing cause i'm a d2 survivor

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Do you understand the difference between scummy/anti-town? Just because my vote isn't on him for one reason, doesn't mean it can't be on him for the other reason.

hey wait, this is famliar...

VOTE: Inte This is ridiculous and not at all helpful to town.

LEL

VOTE: SUAVE DICKTRIP

d3f3n3r

really

needs a vig shot, now

solidstate, you're pointing out a lot of things you're seeing wrong, but you aren't doing anything about them. Why is that?

A lot of other people are focusing more on bro-talk, bragging and threats, than legit scumhunting. Why shouldn't I point it out?

Beyond that, I have a couple scum reads but one isn't all that stronger than the other. I'll happily post my reads so my thought process is clear, though:

I dislike PB for his 'slide by' posting. I'm nervous of the horsies being so chummy (and Demon Core for jumping in with them). I think I already commented on Inte, his behavior is kind of random and overly aggressive.

I'm willing to leave Bitmap be as a present null; the vig posturing is probably more dangerous for himself than it is advantageous (makes him a target for both scum and a potential SK). Even if he was one of those roles, he'd still be baiting the other.

SD, Elmo, and Yoshi are pretty null-town to me, I can't see that there's much logic behind the votes on them so far but randomness and maybe a bit of OMGUS.

Mcstab has been away.

However, for the sake of actually being on a wagon since no one is on RBD with me, I'll
UNVOTE:
VOTE: inte

if i was a double voter u'd be "cya"d

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wait what

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now who am i gonna OMGUS :/ ssd really isn't worth a vote

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so yoshi am i scummy or not

"interest" is vague

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dude what im in like 4 games

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D3f3n3r is a wasted lynch.

Stop this right now and ignore him

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hey yoshi man this isn't looking good

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However, for the sake of actually being on a wagon since no one is on RBD with me, I'll
UNVOTE:
VOTE: inte

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ima go ahead and put you into my town pocket

for now

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ima go ahead and put you into my town pocket

for now

How? I completely fine lynching soild right now, his last few posts have been beyond awful.

@Mcstab - Why a PR lynch? You saw how that worked in the past when I got the "scummy PR" lynched, leaving DY alive tells us a lot about the setup that only scum would know at this point.

it was a tentative "eh i can see myself saying that as town" moment

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their style of play is ... pro-scum, but is not alignment indicative

you have to wade through the bullshit

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d3f3nd3r is like PMysterious or Pizzadudes7, but slightly easier to understand
If he is town, let him try to scumhunt and help do whatnot.
Eventually he will need to be picked off though
Its a waste of a lynch

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My god.

There is not one but TWO Prolapsed Brains in this game.

I will kill you all.

mb listen to me when i say d3f3nd3r is a useless lynch that will tell us nothing except he is a VI

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i have faith that there is a vigilante

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i also am willing to give him a chance to try

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well for one, his entirely baseless d3f3nd3r vote

at least applejack has placed some reason to hers

his was a blatant sheep vote

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misreps can come from misunderstanding. you shouldn't automatically associate a misrep with scumminess

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better question, why are you attacking cartographer when your vote is on solidstate for bando hopping?

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rbd u aren't scum again are you

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nbd ill shoot him then

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mentioning posts without linking source is scummy, ima go ahead and say that

it make things more confusing for people, therefore helps scum

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there is a convenient html tag:

Code: Select all

[post=postnumber][/post]

replace post number with the appropriate number yo'

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???? vig's don't have anyone to answer to

we need the lynch to be in

town's

hands

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mafia semantics

i always shoot as vig

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at this point in time, would you shoot d3f3nd3r if he was not lynched?

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???? vig's don't have anyone to answer to

we need the lynch to be in

town's

hands

I wasn't telling the vig what to do, I was saying that Defender's argument of 'don't lynch me, the vig can kill me' is ridiculous.

i didn't say you were telling the vig what to do, i said we need his lynch in town's hands rather than something that may or may not happen

if cart wasn't being so scummy i would have voted you right now

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rbd im watching you like a turtle

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ffs targeting bad players is such a shit approach to mafia

get on cartographer now

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good attempt at teetering along the fence

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great input

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yoshi when are you going to stop being opportunistic?

lynch order:

carto
nacho/yoshi i haven't decided yet

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u are ok with PL's but not vig shots?

wat de heck

anyways at this point i really don't care if yoshi is the lynch for today. his poor play is pretty unexcusable

ok well maybe not today but definitely tomorrow

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inte: Pretty solid scum read, here. I found his "reaction testing" to be incredibly forced and fake. I feel like the suspicion against Yoshi was garbage, and based on absolutely nothing but hot air. The sudden flip to Sivuere was scummy as hell, given that Bitmap had done the same thing and inte had completely ignored it. In fact, bitmap's post was worse. As noted, I hate the endless pleading to keep Defender around when inte agrees that we need to remove him eventually. I'd be really happy with an inte lynch.

it was forced and fake seeing as i'm not a dayvig.

can you seriously say to me that yoshi is being a productive town member and not giggle then, well, you need to re-read his iso. almost every single one of his votes have been opportunistic.

Siveure DtTrikyp's vote was an obvious opportunistic and anti-town hunting vote.
call me anti-town, spit at me, and request a PL? sure.
call me anti-town, actively pursue my lynch, then ambiguously switch reasons for lynching me when queried? scummy as fuark

bitmap is not doing the same thing. he did a faggy OMGUS, but i can see the town motivation in it because of the last game we played. not alignment indicative. i might be convinced to lynch him if someone puts together something thats not an issue with playstyle. so far i've not seen anything genuinely scummy.

i've played at least two games with d3f3n3r, once as a scum buddy, and one as a fellow townie. both times he was a hindrance to his team and i would rather actually lynch someone that can give us information for us to go off of.

you stink of opportunism. worse, you replaced into elmo's slot who i always read as scummy (similar to d3f3nd3r)

inte- What is your case against Carto? What don't you like about nachomomma?

my case of based off Sivure's actions. they were terrible enough for me to have a 99.96% scum read on him.
i hate getting stuck with my replacement's actions, but idk if i'm called a hypocrite.

wat? did you even read nacho's posts?

also inte is town.

I want to vote inte so badly right now.
Cartographer is being too town right here, so I suppose I can't vote him now.
Whatever, this can be a placeholder for later.

Vote: inte

this game is balls i have too many scum reads

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lynch order:

carto
nacho/yoshi/Azusa Nakano/RBD (for something i just noticed, thanks azusa)

yeah way too many scum reads

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RBD your scum game is getting weak

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No. It was forced and fake because you were trying way too hard to look like you were reaction fishing. It didn't feel like a legitimate attempt to do anything, it felt like you pretending to be productive. That should have been obvious, and I have to believe you're being obtuse.

and what about Demon Core? he did the exact same thing (hyperbole, in case you try to spin this against me), the post before, yet you make no mention of him. actually you read him as a town gut-read and you agree with his though processes. so is this a point for or against me?

(referring to d3f3nd3r) So, he's a hindrance to his team. You agree. So we lynch him and he flips town, we get rid of a key distraction and possible ML target in later days (and now the vig doesn't have to shoot him), and if he's scum... we lynch scum. I'm really failing to see why you have repeated pushed to do anything BUT lynch him. If all you were saying was "Well, defender is a lynch I could agree with, but I do feel like we could be going in another direction given the possibility of a vig, and that's definitely something we should explore"- you know, what I've established as my position, but you're not saying that. You're say "Let's ASSUME there's a vig, and not lynch him. 'cause it'll be a useless lynch."

so are you in favor or against the d3f3nd3r lynch? as far as i can tell you agree with me, but this seems to me a big point in your case.
are you criticizing the way i said it? if so, thats a playstyle issue.

(referring to yoshi) Yep, he's definitely solely been opportunistic. Which is why he just unvoted defender, the obvious opportunistic lynch (the VI who basically nobody has much of a problem with lynching), essentially killing possible momentum, right? It's not as though the wagon was dying down- Applejack had just joined it, making it the biggest wagon in the game. If anything, there was every reason to believe a Defender lynch could easily go through.

right, its not like he unvoted 7 posts after i called him out on another opportunistic vote. theres no way he would unvote after that.

(referring to bit towards rbd) Explain the town motivation, or meta if the game isn't ongoing.

last game RBD was the leading factor to town's demise. its only natural he would be suspicious as town
his playstyle is similar to my own

Oh, wait. I'm sorry. That's the ONLY post you've made about elmo. Until I show up and call you scum. Yeah, this reeks of OMGUS. Why did you never mention this "scumread" until just now?

? do you always mention people that you have a hard time reading? i've played with elmo prob 4 or so games before and every one of them have been near VI tier play. hence i always read him as scummy

Sivure wasn't particularly townie. That's fine. What do you think of Carto's actual play? Because that's what I'm basing my town read on.

most of it i didn't read

(about nacho) You realize people change their minds upon rereading and current postings, right? Like I did to some degree above with Yoshi?

i didn't even post in the time between his stance flip
yeah man sure people can change their reads, but i took "inte is town" as "inte is obvious town and shouldn't be ever lynched"
confident statements like that always have larger connotations.

it benefits him by attempting to get one of his proponents to his buddy's lynch, lynched

actually bump Azusa to an alternative to a lynch today

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all that matters is my opinion, i control my vote

prove to me otherwise

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hes not

hes a bad player read

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If a day 2 massclaim is instant win, why bother playing?

because its not an instant win

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im going to stop the walls now

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i will bring up a couple of points that do need addressing though

1) i will concede the point about Demon Core. i did not read your entire post
2) most of Yoshi's play strikes me as newb scum, so yes, i wouldn't put it behind him to do something like that
3) i thought the way i worded my point about elmo was clear.

i always read him as scum

should have implied that i've played with him enough
4) if nacho parks his vote on someone who is mislynched then it gives him town cred

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isolation?

dunno

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rbd - leaning town and i wont explain my reasons why

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holding phone

yeah sure man i can't change reads either. nope not allowed

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yeah sure man i can't change reads either. nope not allowed

So, let's see here. (My apologies for falsely claiming you'd said nothing about Rainbowdash, btw. I always think of them as Rainbow, so I didn't think to check for rbd. If I missed any other comments, let me know.)

In every earlier post in which you mention Rainbow, you either state or imply that you think they are scummy, without giving any reasoning. Now suddenly you've swung around and said that Rainbow is town, without giving any reasoning. In fact, outright refusing to. You're right. This is completely innocuous. I'm just confused- if you found a towntell strong enough to override a feeling you seem to have had for a good chunk of the game... why are you refusing to share it? How is this pro-town in any way?

Admittedly, the only way I see it benefitting intescum is distancing from a Rainbowtown lynch, that doesn't make it not weird as hell.

And I've already explained why I consider this vastly different from the instance of Nacho, although here we also have a larger sample size, thus making the sudden change even weirder. Also, what happened to Nacho being scummy because he changed his mind on you without explanation? Or is it only scummy when other people do it?

rbd is a player who needs to be scrutinized. any alignment shes a force to pay attention to.

Also, what happened to Nacho being scummy because he changed his mind on you without explanation? Or is it only scummy when other people do it?

pretty much

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So guys i just read this post:

So you've either made yourself an early kill if you're town or you're scum and you're leading town astray; neither is optimal play as town.

I find this statement to be town motivated. It correlates with his actions toward Yoshi. He does not get off Yoshi and imply like others that if he is alive we should lynch him. Here implies that with Rainbow's death. The speculation is present here, but not with Yoshi. I find that to be town.

I am willing to lynch him considering I think the other wagons other than Rainbow are likely to be on town.

I just deleted all of my post.

I hate myself.

In conclusion, the catch 22 comment from solid I think to be very town minded.

I would like the points that Asuza mentioned in reference to me be addressed.

Also, Nacho, I have been the only quantifying suspicion on Rainbow. How does that make sense for me to be scum from your point of view?

I am so conflicted.

VOTE: McStab

(L-3)

can we please lynch him

like, pretty please

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you two

vote cartographer

(pls)

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id be ok with a lynch thats not

{mcstab, rbd, bitmap, seiklops (i guess)}

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lets get into fucking lynch mode and lynch sum guys

I WANT CARTOGRAPHER DEAD

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man i feel like im being ignored by everyone except azusa

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ugh lets see probably solidstate. he seems to be coasting way to much

mcstab wagon is so bad as it is right now, but i'm not in a position to make a definitive claim on his alignment just yet

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when i don't remember a player's opinion or don't have a town read on them for something they've done, thats bad

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i got life to attend to ;_; even a spammer like me has to take a break sometimes

I'm

coasting? You go quiet for 2 days while a major wagon is developing, don't comment on it at all and then suddenly jump in at L-1 yelling: 'OMG I wanna vote this other guy vote vote vote hey guys why you no vote? VOTE PLZ'

In the space of 3 posts and

less than an hour

, you did this:

Lynch anyone but these 3 people! (I'm not counting the IC)
Lynch cartographer!
Lynch solidstate!

I'm not really sure how anyone can possibly take that sort of posting seriously.

they

should

take is seriously because i'm right. you aren't even discrediting my point, only my method. this wagon is a shit wagon anyways

ill give this game another quick readthrough because i am lacking in strong town reads

maybe tomorrow tho

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am i scummy for it?

my reads are solidifying

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really? if hes town applejack is obvscum

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trust me, im a force user

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Fuckin' this is such a shit wagon. I'll shut my mouth if I'm wrong but whatever

Azusa why is mcstab high on the NK list?

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Fuckin' this is such a shit wagon. I'll shut my mouth if I'm wrong but whatever

McStab (6) - Rainbowdash, solidstate, Azusa Nakano, Cartographer, Applejack, DoomYoshi

Now tell me exactly how this is a "shit wagon" and where the scum are here, and maybe place a vote on someone with a chance of a viable wagon going to lynch (HINT HINT), or shut up because at this point all you're doing is whining.

Applejack, how do you feel about RBD?

Town. Granted, I'll probably always read Rainbowdash as town, but I remember something in my notes that made me lean definitely in this direction. I'll get back to you on this once I've posted this post.

Preview edit: ...if you wanted to get Rainbowdash then what the hell were you doing on a wagon that Rainbowdash was pushing?

RBD has shit reasons, shitty enough to make me doubt my town read
solidstate is ???? i have no idea why hes on mcstab
cartographer is scum. like, i've never had a more strong scum read in my time on this site
yoshi is either a complete VI or scum, which im leaning scum way more

and finally the grand shit capital, you.

Finally Applejack is doing a great job of setting up his OMGUS vote but first acting like he's actually observing things. It's obvious that post 434 is just a setup for his next post where he says "Well after reading I just HAVE to see McStab as scum! This totally isn't me doing an OMGUS vote!"

Thank you for putting words in my mouth when I haven't had the chance to say them. Fuck you, and fuck everyone else who does this.

Unvote, Vote: McStab

this is NOT a town reaction whatso-fucking-ever. he criticizes your play, then you go ahead and blatantly omgus vote him? disgusting how this flies nowadays and doesn't gather shit for attention

Azusa why is mcstab high on the NK list?

... Because he had claimed a PR, and typically Mafia kind of want to get rid of those? Particularly if the claim would then turn out to be incredibly provable?

Also, I know this is a stupid question, but can somebody provide an explanation/link re: role tiers? Because wiki, google, and a skim of Mafia Discussion are all coming up goose-eggs for me.

And I refuse to lynch Applejack or Carto. Solid town reads on both. I'd love an inte or Bitmap wagon, but those seem like pipedreams. Only feasible other wagon I would want to see is solid. But I'd have to reread first, seeing as how I'm coming around to solidtown.

then lets find out from his flip. neither of your town reads have any pro-town intentions and you are

VERY

easily persuaded by AtE

Did we also all forget about Nacho?

nacho is a lightweight lurker. i've personally mislynched him before because of the fact

I am not voting you for lurking. Quit being an asshat. Travesty or not, you brought this on your self.
UNVOTE:

No, bitmap, we didn't. Mcstab and I just had a conversation about him.

Carto, this is not very high level play either. It is a mental workout.

Inte, if I voted carto now, wouldn't it be opportunistic since his last two posts are shitty?

Therefore I can't vote him or your rage will be unleashed. You are going to have to push that on your own.

ill give you a pardon. ill admit you are more likely to be town than scum because of the virtue of wagons, but fuck you have some bad play

actually fuck that last statement. i just read your iso and your case is that he didn't want to wall-war you and shit up the thread? it is especially weak because in my eyes only one point in the wall even remotely was worth responding to

man fuck this game is so shitty. we have a shittastic claimed PR and an obvious scum bandwagon that i can't disperse because i suck at rhetoric.

i seriously wouldn't be surprised if the entire scum team is on this wagon now

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yoshi, fishing for approval is worse than the actual action

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bitmap im not playing anymore

this almost exactly mirrors my lynch in open 421. everyone on my wagon was on it for ass reasons and when i flipped exactly what i claimed, they deemed me a necessary lynch and NONE of my retarded proponents were scrutinized (read: RBD)

pedit:

Nice job forgetting to mention the crucial thing that changed between those two quotes I made, when I claimed T2 (a confirmable PR) and you still wanted to push my lynch.

Nice job forgetting the two posts I made explaining why I stated the soft-PR claim wasn't good enough.

Also, nope. Given the role combinations, not all the T2 PRs are provable. Try again.

Explain how I am persuaded by AtE please. Also how my reads don't have pro-town intentions. The only thing I can come up with is that they are the two major bandwagon candidates, but my reads have been consistent- it's not as if I just suddenly decided "OMG APPLEJACK AND CARTO ARE OBVTOWN" just now.

first point is mafia semantics. people will disagree over things like this

applejack has the most ass reasoning ever. she literally got "emotional" (fakest shit i've ever seen) over mcstab calling her scum.

Cute. It's not a slip, and it makes perfect sense when one considers I wrote that line with a specific mindset. But, in the spirit of being obtuse and stubborn, I won't elaborate, and you get to continue calling it a slip. A win for the two of us!

so is he obtuse and stubborn or scum? those traits directly contradict one another.

ur rite you should die over carto today

VOTE: Applejack

peditv2:

@carto

id rather be wrong and you be lynched than right and you glide to lylo

peditv3: da

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wtf

if carto really was getting burned out, he would actually have been scumhunting the whole time. not a sheep voting stating that hes burned out (which is obv AtE fyi)

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i saw what you were doing but you can't point out you're doing it. it makes it wifom-y

zzz

@solidstate

your logic is ass. 3 of us have firsthand seen how easily the massclaim plan can be manipulated to defeat town (the winner of the game was actually bitmap on a technicality and very bad play by town)

none of us want anything to do with it

No, no, I'm not calling McStab obtuse and stubborn. I already called him even worse things, which you decided was fake. I'm saying I'll be obtuse and stubborn because, frankly, I fucking hate this game, and getting lynched on Day 1 in this game wouldn't make me bat a lash. (Sorry, yabbaguy.)

my bad, i misread. doesn't change the fact that you're scum

CHOO! CHOO! AtE TRAIN AHEAD. if you really hate this game, get the fuck out

Also, McStab's cageyness about his role is hilarious. There's only 2 roles he can be claiming and scum will pretty much want them dead.

THANK YOU.

Also, the Applejack wagon is so obviously scumdriven it's not even funny. I won't go as far as AJ, but I will admit that I have completely failed as a scumhunter this game if AJ flips scum.

This game is frustrating me to no end. McStab's wagon has dissipated based on a nonclaim that is not neccessary provable, and has been scummy all damn game. Meanwhile, AJ, who has been town all game, is being wagoned for almost no freaking reason. The case on AJ is just utter nonsense.

its not. my two town reads are on this wagon.

your ability to not see her obvious bullshit is ass

as town, we need this wifom to try to throw off scum. two claimed PRs in a day doesn't help any more than one and a half

You're not above Yoshi, no, because otherwise they're playing Doctor WIFOM and could waste their NK. After that you're next, as far as I can tell.

yoshi is going to protect seiklops no matter what. atm, there is no chance that anyone else will need it

It's provable by the existence of a T1 role.

Applejack isn't town and your farcical cases to defend someone who long ago gave up trying to defend her opinions with logic (hint: because there isn't any substance to them) is noted.

Who are you talking to, and expand on this a bit?

obviously azusa. while i can deal with not wanting to lynch cartographer, this applejack nonsense is just ass

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the game doesn't suck. 3/4th its players suck

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i take AtE more offensively than someone calling me a fucktwatniggerass. name calling over the internet is expected.

AtE is cheap. it fucks with a lot of people's ability and isn't even really a real fucking point. look at azusa for the most ready example

i will get mod replaced/killed before i let this travesty happen.

I'm glad your joining the camp that thinks ad-homs and stating things as absolutes helps your argument somehow.

i've already said that i can't put together a good argument in writing.
its not even ad hominem. ad hominem is when you attack their character e.g. inte is from dumfuckistan, therefore he is wrong, or inte is black, therefore he is wrong
i wasn't even saying you're an ass. i'm saying that your reads are ass

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pffft ahahahaa i am so getting nk'd tonight

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right. counterwagon = autoscum and town NEVER defends town reads. ever

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i *hope* azusa is town because im seriously lacking in town reads

2/11 is ass

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mcstab, i disagree

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mafia semantic mang

i think we should almost never no-lynch

only situation would be to bring mylo to lylo

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i don't get people like him

he continues to play this game to waste people's time?...

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d3f3n3r

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mcstab, are you willing to lynch d3f3nd3r?

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i don't think i can switch my vote at this point.

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mcstab you're being ass right now

cop on rbd

pedit: double ass

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u killin me bro

town read on d3f3nd3r? u followin' umbrage's 12 steps to success?

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bro thats like having a town read on uberninja or some shit like that.

hes not even in this game

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You mean how I unvoted you and say "I think he still may be scum"? You do realize im not subtle on getting somepony I think scum lynched right? Getting inte lynched D1 in 421... THATS how you get a PR lynched.

a shit case and defending a scum partner? that seems vaguely familiar...

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man i am so mad at that. i provided motherfucking PROOF that i've fucked up my role pm before by being inattentive (unattentive?) and still nobody even blinked twice

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i can't do it mang. i'd have been satisfied with a d3f3nd3r lynch if apple didn't keep going into AtE territory

i didn't want apple to be lynched today (preferably cartographer or

maybe

DY) but at this point switching would not benefit my reads

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i prefer ass

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AtE

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AtE

Nah, it's an appeal to common sense. Given how obvtown Apple is, and given how completely baseless the wagon is, I'd say a defender lynch is looking pretty damn good.

Unless you'd like to actually give a case for Apple's lynch beyond BS psychoanalysis and associative tells? I'm all ears.

i completely disagree with everything in your 2nd link regarding mcstab

stop. derailing. this. wagon.

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AtE is shit because it works

just because she is appearing to state her scummy actions ironically, her intentions is the same

more appeal to emotional beings. do not take pity, do not be biased.

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NOPE LYNCH APPLEJACK

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good job rbd, you always find a way to make easier targets out to be bad
lynch applejack
cop investigates rbd
we go to d2

pedit:

experience -> more likely to be right
emotion -> more likely to be a manipulating baby

who do i want helping me scumhunt?

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inte, if you really believe that AtE stuff so strongly, maybe you need to do an ISO read on McStab.

you can't keep all emotion from your posts.

applejack is the main offender. plus, i already had a town read on mcstab before the bullshit case came up.

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its a cult following i don't understand

ANYWAYS, applejack is dying today

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aint that some shit

ponies having town reads on each other

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im just sayin'

if there isn't any bias whatsoever, i'm crazy

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its the same shit i've been saying

d3f3n3r lynch tells us nothing about the alignment of other players. he has zero associative tells

i would rather lynch mcstab over d3f3nd3r at this moment

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ur not allowed to sheep me

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its the same shit i've been saying

d3f3n3r lynch tells us nothing about the alignment of other players. he has zero associative tells

It gives us associative tells about the people RABIDLY defending him, IE you.

more like i'm rabidly saying applejack has the highest chance of being scum

can we just fuckin do it so i can say i told you so and be nk'd?

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sure ill vote myself the whole next day

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or, d3f3nd3r if you like

or whoever you choose, that is, if you flip town

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I'm flattered.

Good luck.

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ain't even mad

cartographer you're pretty shitty at this game

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lemmie see dat mafia qt

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swag. at least you know its not your cup of tea.

tbh your case on nacho was very convincing and had straight cut thought processes. shoulda done that all game and you'd of been set

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<3 McStab so much. So, so much. There were many different situations in which we could have been completely fucked, but he was able to adapt quickly enough for us to hold on a bit longer. McStab can post the QT if he wants, I definitely don't mind posting it.

can u release the qt sir

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your opinion is ass

he made the right call

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Spite? No

The morally correct decision? Yes