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I have never been scum in my life.In post 225, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:@Pine did you roll scum here?"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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A quick scan of a few ISOs:
Zor looks fine to me. I have absolutely no idea what this wagon is about, aside from some of you pouting that he’s not doing what you want or expect. Hint: Anyone who yields to demands deserves suspicion, not trust.
NancyDrew is doing her usual petulant Town thing. She’s fine.
Norwegian is irritating the shit out of me, but jury’s out on whether it’s AI or not.
Flavor Leaf is unreadable so far. He always is. He is, however, too valuable if Town to be a D1 boot.
DEB is the only one who sticks out as distinctly suspicious so far.
I’ll reserve my vote for now, need to put those ISOs in context."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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lolwutIn post 699, Thestatusquo wrote:
ok this is fucking funny lol.In post 692, Akarin wrote:
DEB and Pine are both pretty sus. Can't believe town would lurk out like that.In post 654, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Pine calling DEB suspicious is also real funny.
Akarin literally the only player with less content than me, pushing me as a potentially-viable counterwagon to Zor.
Okay. I'm still not sold on Zor as scum, but this looks like an inept attempt to bail him out."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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This pings me strongly as Town, and that makes me breathe a huge sigh of relief. I was really worried there weren't any adults in the room.In post 698, Flavor Leaf wrote:for what it's worth, I have reason to believe zoraster's claim is real, even if they are scum."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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@IcoIn post 716, Pine wrote:
This pings me strongly as Town, and that makes me breathe a huge sigh of relief. I was really worried there weren't any adults in the room.In post 698, Flavor Leaf wrote:for what it's worth, I have reason to believe zoraster's claim is real, even if they are scum.
Why does FL post this as scum.
He's clean."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Nah nah you’re thinking about it inside outIn post 725, Iconeum wrote:
maybe i'm just stoopid, but can you clarify what's so townie about it?In post 716, Pine wrote:
This pings me strongly as Town, and that makes me breathe a huge sigh of relief. I was really worried there weren't any adults in the room.In post 698, Flavor Leaf wrote:for what it's worth, I have reason to believe zoraster's claim is real, even if they are scum.
It isn’t “What’s Townie about this?”
It’s “Why the fuck would FL post this as scum?”
There’s just no incentive.
Put yourself in scum!FL’s shoes. You’re voting Zor, he just admitted to a role which could very easily be scum.
All you have to do is sit back and let it happen. God knows, with all the trigger-happy yahoos in this game, it’s a good chance one of them pushes him over the edge for kicks.
Giving grudging acknowledgement that the roleclaim tracks gives credibility to the claim. Not a lot, but some.
There’s zero cost to scum!FL to just say nothing, and potentially a lot of incentive. Taking out a Town PR on D1, especially a player as strong and experienced as Zor...why rock that boat?
In contrast, there’s no points to be gained by giving Zor that little stability. The odds that someone like me catches it, decides to make a Towncase based on it, and gets believed...
The cost/benefit here for scum!FL is just all out of whack. He’s way, way too good for that.
In contrast, Town!FL giving grudging acknowledgment of facts is a genuine drive to share relevant information.
Flavor Leaf is Town."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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In post 780, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
UNVOTE:In post 775, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I don’t fully townread Zor, but with that claim they’ve put an target on their back so i’m willing to back off since they will hopefully get resolved at some point anyways.
How much time do we have left?
Yeah this is 100% Nancy!TownIn post 793, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
Bolded = all of the teams playing in this game and based off if this, neither TGP nor DEB should be voting me here.1. Quick Attack: Alisae, chennisden, Mistyx, MURDERCAT
2. Class of 2175: Gypyx, innocentvillager, Iconeum, sirius9121
3. Mask Your Worries: JacksonVirgo, JohnnyFarrar, TheGoldenParadox, Noraa
4. Pa-Ni-Nis: xRECKONERx, thestatusquo, Cheetory6, AGar
5. Team 'Team 'Team' Team' Team: Hopkirk, Hectic, Flopz, Zaiden
6. Loyal Servants: Xtoxm, Auro, Pink Ball, Flavor Leaf
7. Whatever Farm Animal of War: Jingle, Dannflor, Pine, Aristophanes
8. Daylight Savings Time: lillith2013, something_smart, Datisi, the worst
9. The Four Seasons: Infinity 324, Ydrasse, Uncrowned, Kanna
10. Mana Crypt: MariaR, beeboy, Menalque Ampharos, unwnd
11. Onlyregfans: petapan, staypositivefriend, Super, hercule
12. Suicide Squad: PookyTheMagicalBear, DKKoba, OkaPoka, Nancy Drew 39
13. The Fakeclaim Processing Department: Ramcius, SirCakez, Creature, DrippingGoofball
14. All your Scummies belong to us: Albert B. Rampage, NorwegianboyEE, Firebringer, Morning Tweet clidd
15. Maybe the Real Mods...: xofelf, zoraster, PrivateI, Cephrir
16. Half a Good Team Plus Two: DeasVail, Ythan, BBmolla, Jake The Wolfie
17. Basterd Modding: Gamma Emerald, Dr Easy Bake, Almost50, The Bulge
18. Perfect Grammar: Dunnstral, Akarin, Adorable, midwaybear
It’s absolutely batshit insane and makes no damn sense, is indignant and abrasive, and is about as self-aware as a basset hound, but that’s what Nancy!Town looks like."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Quoting issue.In post 780, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
UNVOTE:In post 775, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I don’t fully townread Zor, but with that claim they’ve put an target on their back so i’m willing to back off since they will hopefully get resolved at some point anyways.
How much time do we have left?
We have like nine days. Pump the brakes, crazytrain."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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A) I apologize for the aspersions on your psychology. I do not understand much of what you do or why you do it, and it is easy and cheap to slap a derogatory label on it rather than try to solve it. That’s not fair or kind and I will refrain.
B) That said, your insistence that others are able to have instant and reliable meta tells on you is absolute horseshit. It always has been and continues to be. Your ongoing inability to understand why people suspect you in a game revolving around deception represents a stunning lack of self-awareness that I’d hoped you’d outgrown
C) You are wildly overestimating most teams’ attention to their teammates’ games.
D) And also their willingness to dictate their teammates’ reads
E) And further the willingness of most players to take their teammates reads as gospel
F) These flaws in your understanding of how other people process reads you believe to be obvious contributes heavily to the aforementioned self-awareness issue
G) All that said, it also contributes to my Townread of you. Given the stakes of this game, I am willing to shelve my frustration and work with you until either you are killed to reduce free chaos in the playerset or I am killed as a threat.
H) The quoting issue was in regards to the time we have until deadline, nothing to do with TGP, whom I haven’t managed to sort yet.
I) I am also having difficulty sorting Shea"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Checking in.
I had a kidney stone issue Wednesday night, and I am still kind of gradually recovering from the ordeal. Hopefully getting a good night's sleep tonight will get me back to 100%. I should be up first thing and giving this proper attention.
Based on my earlier reads and the current wagon composition, I consider the Zoraster wagon to be cursed. Akarin was scummy af earlier and I like that wagon comp better.
VOTE: Akarin"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Yeah an Akarin vote here feels like a Town endorsement of BB
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Shea, skimming through an ISO as short as mine really oughtn’t require multiple demands.In post 626, Pine wrote:A quick scan of a few ISOs:
Zor looks fine to me. I have absolutely no idea what this wagon is about, aside from some of you pouting that he’s not doing what you want or expect. Hint: Anyone who yields to demands deserves suspicion, not trust.
NancyDrew is doing her usual petulant Town thing. She’s fine.
Norwegian is irritating the shit out of me, but jury’s out on whether it’s AI or not.
Flavor Leaf is unreadable so far. He always is. He is, however, too valuable if Town to be a D1 boot.
DEB is the only one who sticks out as distinctly suspicious so far.
I’ll reserve my vote for now, need to put those ISOs in context."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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My dude, seriously fuck off.
Norwegian is scummy af, and BB and TGP have been on and off the Zor wagon. You and Mistyx have also been hard to parse.
Meanwhile, Towny people are voting scummy Akarin for better reasons.
It’s a commonly-held fallacy that I have to answer all questions put to me and/or explain every facet of my reasoning.
I don’t."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Yes, and I did.In post 1116, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
What reason? Can you even explain why you are voting Akarin?In post 1114, Pine wrote:Meanwhile, Towny people are voting scummy Akarin for better reasons.
Not really vibing with characterizing a straight answer and curt dismissal as “anger,” but you do you."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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I'm not really settled on Zor yet, but the reasons for voting for him and the people doing it have me really wary of the wagon. TGP might be a reasonable vote, but I think Akarin is more likely to flip scum.In post 1126, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
So you like Zor then? Maybe I should keep my vote where it is then? I just really feel strongly that TGP is scum and unlike Norwee, I think how a player interacts with you is possibly the most valuable information you can have.In post 1105, Pine wrote:
Shea, skimming through an ISO as short as mine really oughtn’t require multiple demands.In post 626, Pine wrote:A quick scan of a few ISOs:
Zor looks fine to me. I have absolutely no idea what this wagon is about, aside from some of you pouting that he’s not doing what you want or expect. Hint: Anyone who yields to demands deserves suspicion, not trust.
NancyDrew is doing her usual petulant Town thing. She’s fine.
Norwegian is irritating the shit out of me, but jury’s out on whether it’s AI or not.
Flavor Leaf is unreadable so far. He always is. He is, however, too valuable if Town to be a D1 boot.
DEB is the only one who sticks out as distinctly suspicious so far.
I’ll reserve my vote for now, need to put those ISOs in context.
I've been neither angry towards you, nor have I shaded you. I have shown healthy suspicion of you and disinterest in engaging in your aggressive rhetoric.In post 1128, Thestatusquo wrote:What if I told you that things which are wrong from your perspective arent necessarily wrong from the perspective of people who aren't you? That's my biggest problem with your reasoning. All the other stuff besides that seems spot on.
Also I'm trying to decide if I'm voting pine or not. I don't think I'm willing to let them come in, do dick all while angrily shading me and then disengage from the game again."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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In post 802, Pine wrote:I) I am also having difficulty sorting SheaIn post 1074, Pine wrote:Based on my earlier reads and the current wagon composition, I consider the Zoraster wagon to be cursed. Akarin was scummy af earlier and I like that wagon comp better.
VOTE: AkarinIn post 1105, Pine wrote:Shea, skimming through an ISO as short as mine really oughtn’t require multiple demands.
This is literally everything I've said to or about you, snipping out the irrelevant parts of quotes.In post 1114, Pine wrote:My dude, seriously fuck off.
Norwegian is scummy af, and BB and TGP have been on and off the Zor wagon. You and Mistyx have also been hard to parse.
Meanwhile, Towny people are voting scummy Akarin for better reasons.
It’s a commonly-held fallacy that I have to answer all questions put to me and/or explain every facet of my reasoning.
I don’t.
None of that's angry. @Norwegian, I've said even less to or about you.
If being lightly suspicious of someone is "angry shading," you ain't playing Mafia."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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What part of "I find you suspicious" is not trying to solve you?In post 1133, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Which is quite odd for someone you "suspect".In post 1132, Pine wrote:@Norwegian, I've said even less to or about you.
Why aren't you trying to solve my allignment?
Frankly, this kind of bullshit, disingenuous attack is why I think you're +rand scum, and the fact that you and others have been doing the same to Zor make me think he's +rand Town."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Nah. "Why aren't you trying to solve my alignment" when I clearly am is both nonsense and disingenuous.In post 1133, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Which is quite odd for someone you "suspect".In post 1132, Pine wrote:@Norwegian, I've said even less to or about you.
Why aren't you trying to solve my allignment?"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Just...ugh. No, Nancy. Stop listening to them. You actually are better than that.
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Okay, I'm going to trigger my replacement strategy at this point.
I apologize for having been disengaged. I was falling back on my "D1 means nothing" attitude, then excusing it due to running a LSG (which is a hell of a lot more work than anticipated), but really I've just procrastinated, seeing 20-some pages to catch up on and noping out.
I'm going to read the last ten pages, mod ISO, and move forward with fresh eyes. I'm obviously not a replacement, as I've got a number of reads from early D1 (including a couple of rock solid TRs) and my teammates have loosely been paying attention, but starting fresh seems the most reasonable thing to do.
If there's anything I should know, i.e. claims that might get buried, point me to them please."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Couldn't agree more.In post 2180, Flavor Leaf wrote:like honestly, i dont give a fuck at this point.
if you think i'm scum here, y'all hopeless
VOTE: Norwegian
My team's been helping out with reads while I flounder a bit catching up. Dannflor's money is on a Norwegian/Akarin/TGP scumteam, though I'm not sold on TGP. Jingle largely agrees though we talked about tracking the night kill, trying to figure out who would have shot BB. He's not an obvious shot, and that can really say a lot. It was a process of elimination, but we thought the person with the best combination of experience, perceived threat level, and teammates might be Mistyx.
I'm feeling pretty good about those reads. {Norwegian, Akarin} and one of {TGP, Mistyx} seems most likely.
I'll support that with Townreads -
Flavor Leaf and Nancy continue to be rock solid TRs for me.
Shea is playing recklessly and punishing people who aren't as invested in the game. I fucking hate that, and it's generally anti-Town, but the vigor of it suggests he's pursuing an aggressive attempt to sort. If he were flippant and actuallypursuedhis shitty vendettas, it might be a scum veneer. He's not - he drops them as soon as he has a real lead. I can respect that.
Ramcius and Iconeum are harder to read, but playing generally to a pro-Town agenda.
DEB I haven't got a clue on."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Fuck...you just...had to do this just as I was defending you again.In post 2177, Flavor Leaf wrote:I'm an investigative with a soft clear on status.
Explain, please."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Okay never mind. Carry on.In post 2199, Flavor Leaf wrote:
im lyingIn post 2198, Pine wrote:
Fuck...you just...had to do this just as I was defending you again.In post 2177, Flavor Leaf wrote:I'm an investigative with a soft clear on status.
Explain, please."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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OkayIn post 2204, Thestatusquo wrote:Ftr I have other thoughts on Akarin as well that I'd like to throw out there, just finished a deep dive:
1) The juxtaposition of Akarin as town in Among us mafia with her play in this game. This isn't just an activity thing, though it's exacerbated by it. If you go back and look at her iso in that game (here you'll note the difference. The engagement with the game isnt something measured by activity but by how akarin is actually trying to solve the game. Compare a post like this:
or thisIn post 204, Akarin wrote:
I meant in terms of how many nights it make take to complete. We can't just visit X number of rooms each night and cover each room on 1 night.In post 195, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:it doesnt matter if someone needs to be in a room two nights in a row. the point of leashing the entire PL is that nobody can wander off and kill you when u r in that room alone on night 2
Maybe not enough people have combinations like mine for it to matter, but wanted to claim this before we get too far.
Also splitting into smaller groups where the towniest players are paired makes sense, but if scum have a regular NK they can potentially frame people.
with her posts in this game like thisIn post 993, Akarin wrote:Blitzo, you say a few times that no-elim is obviously bad, like to the point you want to vote for people suggesting it.
Why?
The idea behind it is that we get tasks done faster if we have more players working on them and D1 eliminations are usually on town anyway.
After 1 Day, 1/3-1/2 of the tasks are gonna be done so each miseliminated townie only adds 1 task unless they were one of the minority who didn't do one as part of keeping someone else safe.
What part of that is obviously bad to you?
The majority of her posts are stuff like this. There's some stuff that's closer to the town Akarin I saw in among us, particularly when she jumps into the zoraster claim discussion, but the majority of it is just fluff devoid of any attempt to solve anything.In post 693, Akarin wrote:I sort of instinctively want to defend Zor because that wagon came up so fast, but I really don't see anything towny from them, and looking at the claim I don't like it. Debating hammering.
Also, the more I think about it the more I don't like stuff like this. I think its subtle shade of zoraster that was attempting to fence sit the wagon (in addition to the quote I linked earlier where she shades the wagon while saying she might hammer it. In addition to that her reason for suspecting the claim seems really dubious to me, granted I don't really know anything about anime but it seemed like she was saying "the pieces fit but not quite in the right way" which is something scum might say to casually shade to continue momentum on a wagon. We even get the "lol my teammate thinks all of this is nonsense." so we're not even supposed to put that much credence into what she's saying.In post 928, Akarin wrote:
I think both the ability name and being a JOAT are perfectly plausible for the anime character that Zor claimed, but I have some doubts that they would go together.In post 761, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Why did I sign up for an anime game? I still have no idea what this means.
i.e. if the ability was going to be named "Kiin" as claimed, I don't know what it would be, but I wouldn't think it would be a JOAT. And if she were to be a JOAT I'd think the ability would be named something else given the character. See the wiki I linked for details.
Dunn thinks I'm overthinking this.
This form of wishy washy refusing to take a stand is scum indicative, and again doesn't match my impression of the way Akarin plays as town from Among us. The akarin in that game had opinions and fought for them, not meekly thrown out shade that was counterbalanced by her own teammates saying it was bad.
I also find it weird that this was thrown in randomly. If akarin is having trouble with this game why aren't her teammates helping her more? You'd think they'd be able to give more impressions about the game than the one time they've been referenced as a throwaway. In my experience playing team mafia in 2018 teams are more likely to be actively reading the game and giving opinions if you're town than if you're scum. The logic on this is very clear: town needs help finding the scum and scum do not. I don't expect people to bring up their reads from their teammates all the time and indeed I would be annoyed if they did that, I just feel like akarin is using them in a very specific way here and that's rubbing me the wrong way.
This post is interesting because its a really weird progression with her other thoughts on Zor. She was the main proponent of not believing the JOAT claim and shading it and now is acting surprised when people didn't believe it? This seems incredibly fake.In post 1435, Akarin wrote:So I thought we didn't want to elim Zor through the JOAT claim? Did that change or was it not just as much a consensus as I thought it was?
Here we are staying off the wagon even though earlier we declared that zor "hadn't done a single townie thing" and after shading the claim and after saying she was considering hammering.In post 1457, Akarin wrote:Yeah, I think I'd rather any of the other non-me wagons than Zor.
I'm here to VOTE: Akarin yet again.
tl;dr Even outside of the activity issues and the AtE, I think akarins interaction with zor is textbook scum trying to stay off a town wagon while still trying to give it momentum, and I think her general approach to the game is just entirely different from among us.
VOTE: Akarin"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Hi! Please play better. I've barely been present and I'm doing better than that.In post 2207, Iconeum wrote:'solid' townreads on the 2 potentially strongest players in this game is just easy. It makes you stay out of harms way. It doesn't ruffle any feathers. It's so safe it just pings me like crazy. Not that I don't understand those reads, but they didn't develop very well ya feel. and FL's play here is just so anti-town, it's rough not seeing Pine call that out.
His take on me is just terrible. Pine knows me a lot better then that.
Generaly very pinged by that post yeah"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Ugh, no, Nancy.
Don’t ask him to link a scumgame. If he’s scum, he’ll just link to one that looks like this, and if he’s Town he’s more likely to pick a random one that won’t represent anything in particular.
I hate this sort of faux meta. You either do the work or accrue it naturally over time. Cherry-picking just leads to bad or random reads."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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All the information you want is in here. I’m not spending half my lunch break getting into the weeds on an asked-and-answered scummy question from scum.In post 2196, Pine wrote:
Couldn't agree more.In post 2180, Flavor Leaf wrote:like honestly, i dont give a fuck at this point.
if you think i'm scum here, y'all hopeless
VOTE: Norwegian
My team's been helping out with reads while I flounder a bit catching up. Dannflor's money is on a Norwegian/Akarin/TGP scumteam, though I'm not sold on TGP. Jingle largely agrees though we talked about tracking the night kill, trying to figure out who would have shot BB. He's not an obvious shot, and that can really say a lot. It was a process of elimination, but we thought the person with the best combination of experience, perceived threat level, and teammates might be Mistyx.
I'm feeling pretty good about those reads. {Norwegian, Akarin} and one of {TGP, Mistyx} seems most likely.
I'll support that with Townreads -
Flavor Leaf and Nancy continue to be rock solid TRs for me.
Shea is playing recklessly and punishing people who aren't as invested in the game. I fucking hate that, and it's generally anti-Town, but the vigor of it suggests he's pursuing an aggressive attempt to sort. If he were flippant and actuallypursuedhis shitty vendettas, it might be a scum veneer. He's not - he drops them as soon as he has a real lead. I can respect that.
Ramcius and Iconeum are harder to read, but playing generally to a pro-Town agenda.
DEB I haven't got a clue on.
This is exactly the kind of “Look, I’m pressuring people!” insistence that adds nothing except a hollow attempt to manufacture Towncred. Bite me."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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All of y’all need to be way less needy. This is one of the things I hate about current site meta.
You are not special. You are not entitled to a grand discussion whenever you present a new rendition of your opinions.
PE: My dude, this far you’ve been the antagonistic one. You’re largely taking offense to being ignored."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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As for “do something,” I have fairly firm reads on everyone except DEB now, who I am convinced is some sort of tangential jabberwock sent from the future to confuse me.
Again, not engaging in your screeds constitutes neither antagonism nor ignoring you. I’m finally playing the game and you’re berating me for personal reasons."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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I’m sorry for offending you. That was not my intention. I have a healthy respect for you as a person, but I have felt attacked throughout this game. Perhaps I laid into that a bit much.In post 2267, Thestatusquo wrote:
Perhaps you should examine the words you use to speak to and describe other human beings. You would never speak to me this way IRL and we're supposedly playing a fun game on the internet. I'm going to stop interacting with you about this right now because its super fucking distracting to anything thats relevant to this game but if you genuinely think you were just sitting here doin' nothing and I just got offended out of nowhere then I don't know what to tell you. Please stop being this rude to me.In post 2264, Pine wrote:I have exactly zero problem with you, Shea, except that you’re taking things very personally.
I feel your reads this game have been off. The Zor elim attests to that, as does your abiding antagonism towards people who simply have busy lives. I am disinterested in litigating your reads until they make more sense to me, and have written you off as tunnel-visioned Town.
I am willing to start fresh if you are. Again, I apologize for my tone."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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In post 2265, NorwegianboyEE wrote:God this tea is so delicious.
This, incidentally, is practically a textbook definition of scum cheering on a TvT spat.In post 2269, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I've decided that no matter what happens in this game i shall try to remain as calm as possible, nothing will bother me. I am become zen, i am reaching Nirvana."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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There were far more obvious targets for the NK, Nancy. That’s why it surprised us. Hell, if I were scum, you’d be dead right now. I always prefer to kill the unpredictable elements. FL, Shea, even a strong player who hadn’t made an impact yet like Ico or I makes sense. A mid-pack Townlean? That suggests scum have a medium level of experience - avoiding the obvious protect but not really targeting a long-term mover. BB was always going to get sorted quickly, either graduating to obvtown and becoming an existential threat or continuing to not do very much and fading into the background. He was an awful NK, unless scum felt personally threatened by him. That again suggests scum not at the top tier. Hell, those facts alone cross FL and Shea off the list, and point again to people like Norwee, Akarin, and TGP. Mistyx made the list due to her teammates. Alisae probably would have advocated offing me before I got really involved, so I’m not sold. Then again, e might have written me off as replacement bait or a potential mis-elim so I dunno."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Mmmmmm that is true, but was not taken into account in our deliberations. Good information.In post 2284, Mistyx wrote:alisae hasn't been in chat since e got banned"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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In post 2314, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I would prefer Pine -> Akarin if there is no support for FL.In post 2324, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Pine/Akarin is the epitome of "a player who defends another player by attacking the other player's attacker is very probably scum".
Check out the textbook cognitive dissonance here!
If your vote isn’t on Norwegian, it should be."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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What the actual fuck are you doing, Iconeum. Pull your head out of your scaly ass.In post 2344, Iconeum wrote:very well
then i'm officially done with this game
congrats FL
if this is town!you, you just threw this game
i am voting you until either you die, or i'm dead
i have no further interest in this game until either one happens
VOTE: FL
play the fucking game or gtfo"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Nnnnnnoope. You don’t get to line up three Town mis-elims, then claim I’m chainsawing for one of them. You’ve gotta make up your mind, or at least feign a halfway decent progression.In post 2362, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
There really isn't, you seem to make it out as if my post was saying i wanted to vote Akarin but i was only stating that you/FL/Ramcius should get way more attention if Akarin ended up becoming the elimination and flipped town.In post 2346, Pine wrote:Check out the textbook cognitive dissonance here!
Try again.
FL, stop engaging. I don’t know when Iconeum is going to drop the tantrum and get his head straight, but antagonizing him further isn’t helping. It’s 2AM here, let’s all just go to our corners for the night."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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That’s really where you should be stepping back to reassess. You’re not playing rationally. It’s kind of spewing you Town, but not in a good way.In post 2370, Iconeum wrote:i'll even take votes from my scumreads in that list at this point
Please take a step back."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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This is unhelpful. Please take the break you wanted.In post 2371, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Because they see that I'm town because they aren't being ignorant surface level players.In post 2367, Iconeum wrote:Mistyx
thestatusquo
Ramcius
Dr Easy Bake
Akarin
3 of these players will need to vote FL, or Nancy/Pine have to change their minds which I deem unlikely?
can these players talk to me about why they would or wouldn't sheep me here?
Playing like this does absolutely nothing for me, it only adds my possibility of being faded.
If you are town, you will be taking the blame for this, not me."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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In post 2376, Iconeum wrote:i'll throw in some cookies if needed but i'd rather not
Please stop. This is how scum win.In post 2377, Flavor Leaf wrote:Nah, I will fucking tear Ico to the ground if they're gonna do this trash ignorant surface level push"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Of...of fucking COURSE it happens, Shea. It happens all the damn time. You just rarely see it so blatantly. I think Norwee was genuinely getting overeager there.In post 2379, Thestatusquo wrote:Pine do you think "lining up town miselims" is a thing that actually happens in real life? Like actually? I've been playing for a decade and a half and I think I've seen it like once. Like this doesn't seem like an intellectually honest argument on your part.
Also, for someone who wanted to make a big deal about TMI that obviously wasn't TMI earlier you sure did just say a couple players were town that you can't possibly know the alignment of.
I don’t know what you’re referring to with the second half there."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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I’m not pulling receipts on my phone in bed at 2AM, and likely won’t tomorrow.In post 2390, Thestatusquo wrote:You really think that people vote someone the next day because they agreed to vote them the day before? Show me. I think the thing you're accusing norwee of is nonsense.
You said someone is "trying to set up three town miselims." how do you know those people are town, other than yourself? I don't do this to suggest you're TMIing, I'm saying it to show how much I think TMI is a bullshit overused tell. Townies accidentally TMI all the time.
I don’t know those three are Town - but one is me, and another is my strongest TR. The third is/was shaping up to be the most likely compromise elim. Being pushed by my top scumread in this manner is making me get extreme cold feet on the Akarin wagon, because he’s laying the groundwork for an Akarin Townflip to be weaponized against two of the strongest players. Up until that post, I was all for an Akarin elim, and now I don’t think it’s wise."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Nope. My reasoning is quite consistent, thank you.In post 2392, Iconeum wrote:
oh lolIn post 2390, Thestatusquo wrote:You really think that people vote someone the next day because they agreed to vote them the day before? Show me. I think the thing you're accusing norwee of is nonsense.
You said someone is "trying to set up three town miselims." how do you know those people are town, other than yourself? I don't do this to suggest you're TMIing, I'm saying it to show how much I think TMI is a bullshit overused tell. Townies accidentally TMI all the time.
pine scumslipped lol
nice
we can do him next"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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