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Post #191 (isolation #5) » Sun Jan 29, 2023 1:29 pm
Postby Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu »
In post 52, Aisa wrote:
I think the value of a massclaim would depend to a large extent on the tradeoff between {telling scum who to kill / roleblock / mess with} and {better night action coordination / information / locking scum into a lie}, it seems very very dependent on the exact setup we have. Seems like it ultimately comes down to player preference and my preference is to not do it, but this is a democracy. I guess that if we mess up worst case we could still attempt to Mountainous the setup.
On a semi-related note, I can't think of a super obvious reason for why Herta shouldn't full claim, I don't think not knowing the exact flavour of miller will cause scum to slip or anything like that.
Why did you think this, and also, why are you trying to act like my question is off when you said this?
"I'm used to being mistrusted... Do what you will..."
VOTE: TemporalLich
Yeah between questionable engagement of Herta and this, TL feels like he was trying to play extremely sloppily and is now showing a surprised Pikachu face.
"I'm used to being mistrusted... Do what you will..."
My question (maybe just out of curiosity) is why would anyone choose to be miller
like whats, the other option that they actually discarded that was worse. That's why I actually have some considerations about believing the miller claim
this is probably the smartest approach anyone's had to the miller claim
and I am acknowledging that there are reason to pick it that were stated
"I'm used to being mistrusted... Do what you will..."
Gimli - Town mindset, which can be discerned by towny posts appearing to be thoughtstreamed.
Herta - Way too gambity to be scum, despite the hasty claim.
Aisa - Good pushes.
KittyTacky - Seemingly townie.
Not_Mafia - Is Not_Mafia.
Enchant - Mostly RVS content, if not then setup spec.
narrow parking - An RVS vote and nothing else as of now.
Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu - No content as of now.
Yume - No content as of now except for a vote out of the blue.
Kyoko Kirigiri - Yeah idk.
Marashu - Seemingly not townie.
Kokichi Oma - Scummy mindset.
[Scum]
Now I'm confused. Did TL say he had questions to go with this or did I misinterpret something?
"I'm used to being mistrusted... Do what you will..."
In post 52, Aisa wrote:
I think the value of a massclaim would depend to a large extent on the tradeoff between {telling scum who to kill / roleblock / mess with} and {better night action coordination / information / locking scum into a lie}, it seems very very dependent on the exact setup we have. Seems like it ultimately comes down to player preference and my preference is to not do it, but this is a democracy. I guess that if we mess up worst case we could still attempt to Mountainous the setup.
On a semi-related note, I can't think of a super obvious reason for why Herta shouldn't full claim, I don't think not knowing the exact flavour of miller will cause scum to slip or anything like that.
Why did you think this, and also, why are you trying to act like my question is off when you said this?
I feel like the post you quoted is pretty self contained.
I made the statement about Herta full claiming because I noted they didn't full claim and felt confused by that, but I don't really see the fact the claim was not initially full as AI. I
feel like
your question was a bit off because it didn't demonstrate awareness of this conversation that Herta and I had. Why did you use the wording "act like"?
I said “act like” because I saw what seemed like you trying to shade me for what you already were doing
As for not showing awareness of the conversation, yea I wasn’t aware of this post at the time I asked about Herta’s claim situation. I catch up stream-of-consciousness style I would say.
You at least seem to have a good head about the matter
"I'm used to being mistrusted... Do what you will..."
In post 387, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote:
So it looks like taking the meta-neighbor role did not guarantee TLich would have a partner in it?
Incorrect.
TLich already had hood during discards and knew who is in it.
If TLich pick Meta Neighbour, hood are not closed.
If Meta Neighbour discarded, this hood closes, but continues to exist.
yeah that's what I said
why would he pick it if no one was in it though?
In post 11, TemporalLich wrote:
You have access to a meta-neighborhood PT with another random player
if this card is one of the role cards you can pick.
Bolded relevant part of the role - during the role selection stage, the random player will already be in the neighbourhood. They can then discuss whether to keep this role or to close the neighbourhood.
Oh, I thought another player needed to have the role, didn't realize some other person with a random role would be added.
"I'm used to being mistrusted... Do what you will..."
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Post #432 (isolation #33) » Tue Jan 31, 2023 5:17 pm
Postby Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu »
Yeah I'm just gonna fullclaim this
I have to ability to pick a player and a word 3 times per game as a night action, if they post that word the next day they die
"I'm used to being mistrusted... Do what you will..."
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Post #454 (isolation #35) » Wed Feb 01, 2023 2:07 pm
Postby Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu »
In post 440, TemporalLich wrote:
I can't really tell whether rain or hail would be better. Hail would be good if we have scumteams that can outright kill like Raging Beasts or Negach Syndicate, but Rain is better for dispelling the Dark Creatures and Arsonist Cartel who can hide.
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Post #577 (isolation #37) » Thu Feb 02, 2023 3:58 pm
Postby Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu »
I’m not opposed to a KT wagon but that’s mainly because aside from TL I have basically no suspects. That may stem from not having read this whole thing though.
"I'm used to being mistrusted... Do what you will..."
In post 158, KittyTacky wrote:
It's the awkward period when RVS is over but there are still no leads. That's why is dead. Also I don't think there's much else to talk about, the list is pretty big as far as content goes so far.
yeah I agree the lich lead rist trademark has been the thing that's happening in the game. that and the miller claim, which are the two things kyoko doesn't want/likes to talk about. I think it's a little odd, seems like picking on the things that are moving the game forward in any direction.
I think trying a reads list this early is towny, shows eagerness to solve and whatnot. and as I said I like my position in it. normally I get strong townread by the scum cause I'm all looney in the thread and I think pocketing me isn't a very hard thing to do, but this game I wasn't being townread by anyone yet so it seems like an organic approach to my slot. I'm also feeling uneasy by kokichi but I'll try to re-read parts of the game and see if I can write some words about it. I thought it was peculiar that kokichi decided to position in my favour when herta scumread me for asking about the setup, but he didn't push herta for it or anything, so it seemed like just posturing which may or may not be uncharacteristic for kokichi.
I don't think teasing for giving a read list while you're waiting for nothing, when also the read list is mainly consistent of nothing cause there are nothing much to make a list from is towny.
"I will wait till last guy posts then will share you my read list about everyone when almost everyone is null"
that's not towny IMO.
and what about kokichi is making you uneasy?
Why do you care what Gimli thinks of Kokichi?
"I'm used to being mistrusted... Do what you will..."
I'm conflicted on this. One thing I don't know is that is it possible for people to share the same role as someone that was discarded? If not then it's probably a good thing to share discards at this point, since it'll lower the amount of fake claims scum can do.
I think this doesn’t work like you might think it works. Claiming discards wouldn’t reduce scum fakeclaims, at least not enough to matter imo.
"I'm used to being mistrusted... Do what you will..."
In post 254, Gimli wrote:
locktowning kokichi I think. suspicion over kyoko is good. suspicion over lich I still don't see it but it might just be things people scumread other people for that I don't, so.
I think sharing discards is an interesting idea. but does it make our actual roles more likely to reveal? like, the strength of them. making the game easier for scum at night, and whatnot. and does it help our wincon as townies to share such a thing? I think I'm against it.
My discard was vanilla town.
I know...
super important and most damning information right there but yes overall I'm not sure if its a good idea to claim discards either.
Do we know why they are almost all discarded anyway? I didn't have time to do the setup spec yet
So you discarded Vanilla Townie role?
I fail to see how that was unclear from what Kyoko had already said.
"I'm used to being mistrusted... Do what you will..."
Ah. Clever, and I think town-indicating. Not clearing though, scum could try to gotcha someone like this. Just don’t think that’s Enchant’s intent from context.
"I'm used to being mistrusted... Do what you will..."
In post 432, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote:
Yeah I'm just gonna fullclaim this
I have to ability to pick a player and a word 3 times per game as a night action, if they post that word the next day they die
Can't you pick something like "the" or "a" or "he" and use it as a vig?
I think it’s a 5 letter minimum.
"I'm used to being mistrusted... Do what you will..."
the catch-up feels very NAI so I don't think KT is any scummier. Note that KT's claimed role is effectively a Force of Nature assuming a Vigilante would fail or be redirected, and one of Marashu's claimed abilities globally roleblocks (and refunds limited abilities). This combination is trivially confirmable and will result in a guaranteed nightkill.
Yume is now the more economical vote.
I’m amenable to voting Yume, my role doesn’t work of someone just won’t post.
"I'm used to being mistrusted... Do what you will..."
In post 690, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote:
Are you shitting me? I think a better question is why did those two think it was a good idea to drop such low-quality bait into the thread?
My question is why they didn't go even lower-quality and say they had a guilty on Herta?
I was unsure of what you meant for a second but I get it now.
"I'm used to being mistrusted... Do what you will..."