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[Maestro]

Theft I want you to think less when you post next time, just as an experiment bc I want to get a better read k thx.

I want to know, truly, how do you get somebody to like you IRL - share away!

Also catboi objectively aware of and admits adjusting meta

VOTE: catboi

[Maestro]

If that post is srs, Sterling, you should take that up with the mod; if it's not srs then plz don't say things like that as it could bring outside influences into a game which is Not Good because we like to keep 'em separated

Theft, I didn't say I voted catboi bc they "altered how they post," that's what you always do when you hop in a new game w new role PM, I said I voted catboi bc they're expressing an awareness of their meta play and simultaneously have thought enough about how they would adjust their meta to actually bring this up in a game... it's about the self-awareness and why catboi would have that self-awareness or be thinking about their meta and how to change it; e.g. bc they're scum?

Whereas for you, Theft, I asked you to slightly adjust tactic bc it seemed like you were overthinking when posting and I could already see how the over-analyzing, always slightly-tongue-in-cheek, "sufficiently-verbose" (to use your own words) style could grind on me and prevent a read long-term, so I asked you to switch it up and you have not done this

Think less when posting, nobody will get mad if you're slightly unclear, just answer questions and show genuine interest, but I will get annoyed by Day 2 if I can't get read on you just fyi

Faustiv, no being a pacifist in this game - who is scum?

[Maestro]

Like, we can get into it but I think you're an SE so you should know that a no-kill during Day is one of the worst things town can do for our wincon, unless something huge has changed behind the math for mafia in the last couple of years

[Maestro]

That does not seem to be accurate

[Maestro]

Oh nvm you're right catboi, thought your post was @ faust for some reason

catboi, who is scum? Or alternatively, thoughts on umlauts or generational wealth?

[Maestro]

umlauts as a grammatical device and generational wealth as in capitalism, but fine you've given plenty to chew on there lol

definitely going to respond more, but the tone of response, esp. very last sentence of final paragraph reads to me, honestly, as somebody who has done this before, to be "if I

were

scum and you

did

supposedly

"catch" me like this, I would have to be

incredibly

stupid" so I'll just give you the benefit of the doubt bc honestly that's how somebody could respond to this shit line of reasoning as a standard lol

I like you catboi, idk if scum but I like you

[Maestro]

Hellooo

VOTE: Rockhopper

come back to threeeeeaaaaad

[Maestro]

I'm confused, I was given a role PM but I don't see my name, anyways if I'm am in the game VOTE: hjbzc

Finally, my pinkie is telling me that this line likely comes from a town POV.

yeah I thought the same thing but calling it out this blatantly is BM, if scum sees big "townslips" like this and shoots, fine, but calling it out also drags it into unnecessary attention for potentially giving scum "points" they don't need if others get a huge townslip/read off of it, IMO

[Maestro]

Oh nvm you're right catboi, thought your post was @ faust for some reason

catboi, who is scum? Or alternatively, thoughts on umlauts or generational wealth?

My initial vote was not random, I thought ceejay's entrance was slightly more likely to come from scum than town.

why? you have not given indication before now that your vote was not random, so this seems like new and relevant information

I'm withholding comment on faustiv for now.

why? not in our best interest

[Maestro]

I'm pretty confident I have at least one mafia nailed already.

Speaking of withholding info not being good during Day phase, if you feel this confident do share, it will prob get ppl not currently discussing in-thread much to hop in

[Maestro]

I'm pretty confident I have at least one mafia nailed already.

Speaking of withholding info not being good during Day phase, if you feel this confident do share, it will prob get ppl not currently discussing in-thread much to hop in

[Maestro]

...wait, uh

was that a

scumslip?

[Maestro]

wait, though... actually follow me on this:

"I got a role PM with a name that isn't mine"

*votes that name*

e.g. Role PM received by Sterling, which they didn't realize was also theirs, or for their slot's predecessor, made them vote their predecessor's slot

Sterling got a scum role PM

VOTE: Sterling

[Maestro]

I also happened to post that tiny partial screenshot that proves, even if it isn't in the OP, that this is the slot Sterling replaced into

[Maestro]

well I'm still in the RVS so it doesn't matter if it's you, rose or VOTE: No elimination

as for your second question yes, I'm more used to finding scum based on investigations and roleclaims, which is why I didn't do well on the eurobrick game because in ToS it's common to claim publicly, even day 1 where voting is not allowed while on eurobrick nobody wanted to claim publicly. In amongus didn't have roles other than crewmate and imposter when I played, there we find scum based on seeing them kill or vent for the most part.

lol we are not in RVS anymore friend, you have been gracious enough to generate

content

[Maestro]

Not trying to start anything lol, but if you feel bandwagoned that's on you, just saying that bc enough Stuff is Happening that ppl should be able to form a read based on how others have reacted, I can reasonably say RVS is over, you no longer have to randomly vote, and you're not - it just seems like you're voting in retaliation

It is part of my job as an experienced player to help less experienced players, yes, but part of that is simply playing out my win condition, reacting as I see fit in a game, and not

escalating anything to a personal attack of any kind

when we're all here just to play a game, idk y so defensive

Never have I mentioned anything about this being about you being newer, you responded feeling targeted in that way; this specific mistake was rly one ppl could've made at any level without reading, I suppose, and I am not 100% unconvinced by your argument, it's your defensiveness that encourages me to stay here w my vote

I also never mentioned anything about you having a private thread? Am I wrong? Point to where I said that please

Again, I will reiterate as part of my job in helping newer players, No Elimination/No Kill is bad for us as town and should not generally be considered, except under very specific circumstances that are not these. The elimination/vote is one of our few counterattacks against a powerful and less-communal night game, so do not

waste

unless in specific circumstances near endgame, which you can look up and for which the odds/math can change sometimes, I would imagine

[Maestro]

Just a little question for you, was the 'no elimination' vote in any way directed as a way to troll me? Won't hold it against you if it was, just it was always a pet hate of mine to see people waste mis-elims* in chat mafia haha.

*will take me a while to get used to saying it that way

nah, I no-voted to gauge reactions.

and do tell us the bountiful knowledge you gauged from the reactions you elicited

will look over other shiz soon

[Maestro]

me roflmao when ppl think I'm genuine/casual and couldn't fake that as scum

I am also still very busy but this evening I will have time to look over, don't like how many ppl overreacted to Fennec getting to L-2

that's not a very big deal on Day 1, let it happen, hold somebody's toes to the fire a bit jeez

[Maestro]

more votes on coasty-tantrumy-SterlingScum tho plz

[Maestro]

I want to be annoyed at you for a couple reasons faust but honestly that's pretty convincing, I think there's prob only 1 scum in Sterling/Catboi/Faust based on all of this discussion which is a cool idea to have this early, also unlikely I think for Scumfaust to drop the above on a fellowScumcatboi so I doubt they're together, which probably actually means it's neither of you and you should both vote Sterline tbh

[Maestro]

Or rather you specifically should vote Sterling for now, Faust, then I will be happy to reevaluate catboi later

[Maestro]

Or rather you specifically should vote Sterling for now, Faust, then I will be happy to reevaluate catboi later

[Maestro]

seeing how kkirgiri who played mafia on other sites before, and judging how she was able to get a read very early, I guess she's more used to playing by reads rather than power roles, I'm inclined to believe her feels. as well as Cat having suspicions and groups being able to make better guesses than individuals VOTE: Fennec

I still personally have stronger suspicions on maestro but the group is stronger than the induvial

hoo boy this post, feels like ultra-sheep scum flying under the radar to anyone else? "The group is stronger than the individual but I have done no work to try to convince the group of my individual assertion that Maestro is Scum, so now I will just sheep somebody else who has been more nice to me than mean ol Maestro who is Scumreading me so I Scumread them back..."

like what

@ Faust you have to stop using the L word, I'm surprised mod hasn't warned on it yet tbh

I will post more when you all are more interesting, why the votes on Fennec? Maybe I missed something

[Maestro]

seeing how kkirgiri who played mafia on other sites before, and judging how she was able to get a read very early, I guess she's more used to playing by reads rather than power roles, I'm inclined to believe her feels. as well as Cat having suspicions and groups being able to make better guesses than individuals VOTE: Fennec

I still personally have stronger suspicions on maestro but the group is stronger than the induvial

hoo boy this post, feels like ultra-sheep scum flying under the radar to anyone else? "The group is stronger than the individual but I have done no work to try to convince the group of my individual assertion that Maestro is Scum, so now I will just sheep somebody else who has been more nice to me than mean ol Maestro who is Scumreading me so I Scumread them back..."

like what

@ Faust you have to stop using the L word, I'm surprised mod hasn't warned on it yet tbh

I will post more when you all are more interesting, why the votes on Fennec? Maybe I missed something

[Maestro]

(I'm also busy and behind onreading, I know, and my shit keeps double-posting, so I am not only refusing to post bc I find you all boring, that's mainly a joke - I know I need so say this bc somebody will take it srsly and run with it)

[Maestro]

For some reason he buddied you intensely in the very post you quoted (or that's how I'm reading it) but ok

[Maestro]

"The group is stronger than the individual" literally sounds like a Scum propaganda line to get out of any responsibility for a miselim, that's the huge red flag for me and yeah it should make you rethink why FennecScum in this situation, I am following posts but not seeing that

[Maestro]

"The group is stronger than the individual" literally sounds like a Scum propaganda line to get out of any responsibility for a miselim, that's the huge red flag for me and yeah it should make you rethink why FennecScum in this situation, I am following posts but not seeing that

You don't find Fennec's attempt to handwave Sterling's behaviour as 'town dumbass' after he'd collected two votes from SE players as worthy of suspicion?

IMO that is a valid opinion to have about Sterling's behavior, and that's as much as I can kindly say

My opinion on Sterling's behavior is it comes from newbScum and Fennec seems to think newbTown, that is just difference in opinion so far, and also I dislike this importance being placed on SE slot attention; if somebody has an SE's attention or vote it means same thing as any other players' attention or vote

[Maestro]

VOTE: Maestro

I don't like how quick he was to jump on Sterling for what looked to me to be newbie confusion. I could very well be projecting my own confusion on to Sterling but this forum system doesn't make any sense-yet

I think Sterling's continuation from when he was first voted by Maestro is more telling than Maestro's scumslip theory.

Yeah the time to vote me for "jumping on newbie confusion" as some kind of punishment is long past, the scumslip was a fun theory/idea but his behavior since has been n o t h i n g but platitudes and reactionary "suspicion" on me for jumping at him when he couldn't handle it, screams either incompetent (sorry, just trying to communicate effectively not trying to be rude) newbScum or reactionary newbTown, it's just an opinion different to me from there on out which you go with

Edit By Way Of Post/EBWOP (we usually post this, for example, when I'm typing then I hit preview and I see kiri's #248): yeah, full disclosure, this is definitely a Thing I have done before, I think, in a game, hardbus a partner out of the gate... I don't think I've ever done it in a newbie game and probably not to a newbie I don't think? But see, it's not unheard of that I could be partners with somebody and do this... but I'm not

EBWOP: more stuff aaaaah

[Maestro]

fair, but that's a slippery slope; it could be playing to wincon if it works in the end lmao

EBWOP: uh, that last bit's a very odd question and no I will not give free coaching against wincon...

but I am definitely reading for a partner now, no worries about that (and no concrete thoughts yet except as already stated I don't think Catboi and Sterling are partnered)

[Maestro]

I feel like one of the one's taking a backseat right now could easily be partner to ScumSterling and just quietly let us fight it out over him all Day, without strongly defending or opposing the elim

[Maestro]

Why do you have nada? Why does it take you 3 days to get an idea who's good/bad...?

Do we have 1 player who's used to Days that take weeks and 1 player that's used to whole games taking A week? This is going to be an interesting game...

[Maestro]

Also, Game Days are weeks not 24 hours long, so that statement in your last post would be 3 RL days, not Game Days, right?

[Maestro]

this argument about jelly beans and averages doesn't make sense in this game though, where the whole point is Town is incentivized to argue to convince, to hunt, to investigate and Scum is somewhat incentivized to follow, blend-in, strategize, etc. . . you are just sitting around doing the latter not the former

[Maestro]

I want to be annoyed at you for a couple reasons faust but

honestly that's pretty convincing,

I think there's

I would bet my left nut there's only 1 scum in Sterling/Catboi/Faust based on all of this discussion

[Maestro]

and bc of Catboi/Faust going at it like they did this page and last, POE says Sterling so c'mooooooooooooooooon Faust you have to know why I was going down on this and it's bc of the scumslip anymore

[Maestro]

EBQOP *and it's NOT bc of the scumslip anymore

[Maestro]

I srsly got confused bc so many ppl were talking as if Daytalk is confirmed and it just

is

... it's a thing, how did I not know this? I had to check in the OP and there's no reason for anybody to believe me that I didn't know but wtf...

I need to read for partners slightly differently obviously but yeah I RLY like Sterling for today still, plz and thx

nothing has changed this, and Faust fighting it like they are just makes me want to force-1v1 them, bc I don't think townie pushes this hard against smth unless actually Scum trying to build Towncred long-term via white-knighting, like c'mon Faust nobody will be mean to you if Sterling flips Town, they'll all hang me tomorrow but it will be worth it in the end

[Maestro]

meanwhile if Sterling flips *scum* I would never in my life leave Faust alive until endgame w how he's been defending Sterling

[Maestro]

nah, I trust that bravado of yours even less than I trust your read(s)

[Maestro]

What do you think about the idea that faust considers with Thyn+Sterling being the scum team at the end of his second post?

this seemed like a little wafer-thin hedging of bets, idk it all seems like strategy for rn, I need to come back to this later and reread in totality prob

[Maestro]

If you are Town Tracker or Town Friendly Neighbor you should probably claim now, honestly we can probably massclaim popcorn-style* so we can have any potential CCs locked in and out in the open to solve this game. We're in Row 2 of the setup, if some peeps haven't noticed, so us doing the claims as a Town is helpful for figuring out whether we just have 1 Goon to worry about or whether there is another Mafia PR who could mess up Night action(s). Everybody should be looking over what happened with the relatively quick Sterling hammer yesterday and who was trying to lead us away from that kill over the course of the Day. Ceejay is not automatically cleared; it should go without saying but SEs have the sense to make a quick hammer play to shut up an unhelpful or obviously-doomed teammate.

I'm a VT, and I would popcorn to Faust bc the whiteknight of Sterling yesterday looks as bad as I said it did. We're almost certainly getting rid of you today, bud. Sorry.

[Maestro]

EBWOP *Popcorn-style massclaim is somebody starts, which I have done already, and then points to the next person who will claim, in this case Faust -

NOBODY ELSE should claim before Faust does

- what this does is it will lock each person in turn into their claim, and we can CC as we go (e.g. even if somebody claims your role, do not CC right away except vaguely, or say "I'm CCing an existing claim" and maybe somebody will popcorn to you), but this way we go in order from roughly the most-scumread to the most-townread player, and again it "locks" people into claims before everybody has claimed, giving Scum less information to lie with.

So let's hear it Faust.

[Maestro]

EBWODP CC = counterclaim, in case ppl didn't know that

[Maestro]

shit we lost our jailkeeper

also bad opening post lmaooo

I think I saw an old discussion thread somewhere that said posts like this are something like 70/30% from a Scum perspective rather than Town, this just isn't what most of us would focus on or care about or say after the Day/Night phase we've had... like we've got this basically won, and you're worried about your nice kill from the Night before... ok bud

[Maestro]

Also I'm watching these claims for a specific potential fuck-up from Scum, so please just claim normally and popcorn to the next person if you don't know what I'm talking about and let's solve this out

[Maestro]

If you are Town Tracker or Town Friendly Neighbor you should probably claim now, honestly we can probably massclaim popcorn-style* so we can have any potential CCs locked in and out in the open to solve this game. We're in Row 2 of the setup, if some peeps haven't noticed, so us doing the claims as a Town is helpful for figuring out whether we just have 1 Goon to worry about or whether there is another Mafia PR who could mess up Night action(s). Everybody should be looking over what happened with the relatively quick Sterling hammer yesterday and who was trying to lead us away from that kill over the course of the Day. Ceejay is not automatically cleared; it should go without saying but SEs have the sense to make a quick hammer play to shut up an unhelpful or obviously-doomed teammate.

I'm a VT, and I would popcorn to Faust bc the whiteknight of Sterling yesterday looks as bad as I said it did. We're almost certainly getting rid of you today, bud. Sorry.

Are mass role claims the preferred method here? If so I'm likely to not play on this site again. I personally detest them. It takes the fun out of the game for me.

I got hanged for standing on a table on this and refusing to do it at my home site on principle and I was town then.

Mass claim only helps scum at this point. If we have a tracker with an alive inno report then they should crumb. We can get potential auto tomorrow if the tracker stays hidden, we lynch outside of his inno report and tracker stays alive with a second inno report (and that inno doesn't die).

This is ALL assuming there's a Tracker, which there isn't necessarily and which is a weird assumption to make. I still think massclaim is fine in this scenario since we have so much room to hang Scum on - like, we'd have to be legitimately Worst-Case-Scenario from here on out not to clinch the win but fine, if others don't want to I won't/can't force it. You should still claim though, Faust, bc we're going with you for today.

VOTE: Faustiv

I just agree w kkiri; we just have no reason not to go this route after your horrible white-knighting of Sterling. We have so many opportunities you're just the first and best, no offense.

And to the person who asked about massclaims being "the norm" on this site, the correct answer is that at some point

they are optimal play at certain points whether you like that or not

and plenty of ppl like going w the optimal play so they are often advocated for once a game hits that point. I wouldn't say they're the default way to solve a game but they certainly become possible and allow for that to happen sooner, IMO.

EBWOP: lol ok ceejay

[Maestro]

That's L-1 btw

[Maestro]

I said let's hear it, but l m a o I told you what would happen if Sterling flipped when you started white-knighting, I was almost trying to help you bud, but you look like megaScum rn what can you even say or do

EBWOP: you can keep saying "actually X helps Scum" but at some point we also like, have a lot of reason to think you're just Scum and voting you will instantly end game, which is amazing like A+ victory for Town, so like, just shhh if we are wrong, then we rethink, etc. but like, you can't just keep trying to refute "XYZ helps Town" with no evidence to back-up other than Wine In Front Of Me and Appeal To Emotion (that "fellow Townie" line actually made me wretch a bit, c'mon)

[Maestro]

EBWOP: Appeal To Emotion

Not a policy vote at all, evidence is your behavior all of yesterday; not my fault your strategy bombed or that I told you how it would bomb the Day before it fully did

[Maestro]

You can sit at L-1 for a couple days, there's no need for desperation rn if you have a headache... and you're Town

I can understand the desperation if scum tho, for sure, headache or no

EBWOP: Stop. With. That. Word. I actually agree ceejay is a decent compromise, but we have pretty clear consensus on you, Faust. Sterling was not a bad vote; it was a bit silly how quickly it happened and how it ended, for which we look to ceejay at some point if you don't flip Scum and end game... but like. C'mon. You're gone.

[Maestro]

lmao there's no way you're actually going to shove this at me bud, that's hilarious reaching and even you should know that

[Maestro]

Prodding ceejayvinoya and Maestro.

I'm going to be blunt: I strongly believe the game is already over and that faustiv is the last scum. I have had to wait around for 2 days doing nothing but arguing back and forth with him as he tries to flail his way out of this. (his recent post to wayward demonstrates his scumread on me is entirely unserious). I have had to wait around for 'final input' from 2 players who have likely both abandoned the game. If we hit the threshold for them being replaced, I'm going to just end it because I think it's a waste of everyone's time to wait for replacements in a game that's already over.

this post is unnecessarily combative/rude. I happen to agree with you and have no huge addtl input from my skimming; Faust is Scum and my preferred vote for today; that has not changed; I don't know what even

could

change that if we're being honest and realistic, and perhaps it's tunneling best solved by a replacement but if I am being replaced fine, I am on PT at the moment, which is off for me, and caretaking for a friend and I had very much thought a PM I sent counted as being considered V/LA buuut ok with me either way!

[Maestro]

Thanks, vote Faust, there's no better way to prob end the game

[Maestro]

VOTE: Faustiv

I'll respond to stuff in postgame that feels relevant but kind of disappointed in myself this game, I wanted to set an example and I don't really think I did well in that regard.

gdi I actually can't decide if this post is from Scum or Town but it's 1 or the other catboi, you're either my ride-or-die or we're killing you today like this hammer is just amazingly confoundingly impossible for me to parse, BBT plz help I have been v/la

TWF convince me catboi is Scum bc rn now you're just AtEing it up in-thread, I am heavily leaning towards believing them and kicking you, since we have 1 more miselim for funsies

also my activity most likely will continue to be ~meh~ for another RL day or 2, flights home+midterm elections here

last thoughts on claiming/solving which I'll be honest, y'all shot down rly quickly but whatever - you-do-you I guess

1. basically we only rly care about whether or not the Friendly Neighbor (FN) exists, that gives us all we need
2. if anybody has gotten a FN PM, don't claim who the FN is, just say you got a PM that somebody is 100% Town and we can move on
3. if nobody has gotten a FN PM we can assume we're in setup 3 and will get no info from Tracker until they die

3. is super sad, but it's what will happen if nobody wants to claim - question for the Tracker, if we have one, exactly what purpose does your role serve if not to eventually out yourself and all info you've gathered to attempt to assist w the mid/late-game solving? The clock is chiming late-game-o-clock btw. That's why I felt claiming yesterDay was fine and it's even better today; bc if Tracker exists and gives us any info at all the game could easily be over. But either they've chosen poorly w targets and therefore have no info at all, or they've been crumbing targets/info in their posts (ew. bad. handing info to Scum without making it clearly available to Town. ew. awful.), or they've been just... waiting. Well, now's the time buckaroo. Your role does nothing if you don't reveal and act on the info. Sad but true, be more useless.

[Maestro]

If I do get hanged I really am going to enjoy watching you twist yourself around when I'm revealed to be town.

That's gonna be great.

I WILL TAKE APPEAL TO EMOTION FOR $800 ALEX

[Maestro]

you're both so self-righteous, on reread I rly think it might be possible that catboi/TWF are TvTing here, let's all 3 drop some pressure on Fennec/ceejay's slots?

the true inactive beetches?

I bet Scum is newScum who left 3 SEs alive to WIFOM eachother to death after an early hot potato fuck up by their partner or that Scum is BBT/catboi laughing at me but either way fuck you, you know exactly how to get me invested in

outcomes

[Maestro]

OH WWS and Fennec are also Rose's slot? I had no ideeeeea

VOTE: Wayward Son

catboi/TWF whichever is Town don't vote first but one of you should also vote lol (this request is a trap, yes)

[Maestro]

TFW I mean this w all due respect, stop Appealing to Emotion by hamming up the “I’m different so nobody’s reading me well and this game is frustrating just kill me if you think I’m a baddie” bc that rly makes you look wooooorse friend

Why is it BBT or WS? for me it’s between BBT and WS, if it’s you or catboi well done I guess, but like, come back to game and be less self-pitying and more scum-hunting plz? I don’t think it’s catboi and I don’t think others will vote them today unless you put together convincing shit

WS going after BBT makes me want to narrow possibilities for today; you 2 that are more active we could sort tomorrow if we need to, one of these relative unknowns need to die today; too many wild cards in this game

[Maestro]

First part is @ TWF not whoever TFW is

[Maestro]

I've read 6 pages and we can honestly just elim Wayward and win the game, no?

I think everyone would like to hear more about this theory, at least I would.

Am I your only suspect? Which Townies would you want to go into Tomorrow with?

I think we can end this Today.

Agreed on all counts even if I POE to both of you, honestly UNVOTE:

I will vote you BBT, I will

[Maestro]

BBT being a “too-easy” compromise at this point worries me lol but that slot has don’t Jack shit all game so

[Maestro]

*has done Jack shit

[Maestro]

Wait what?

Why would you call catboi out for that so openly and not me? If that was your plan, or Scum’s plan, by keeping him alive I would be perfect target for that argument too, but that only makes me feel kinship w catboi not think they’re Scum lol

Bad argument, like catastrophically bad. Town can make mistakes and feel strongly about reads

[Maestro]

no this game isn’t super harder to solve than most (*insert grumbling about the setup solving I wanted to do in my first game w the “new” setup*), but inactivity is a bitch that’s for sure

Also, really want to mention: I find it much more likely that Scum would be “actively lurking” and staying in-game but relatively under the radar, like you for example, until recently, rather than allow themselves to be replaced for their strategy of Actually Lurking. Worth mentioning, especially if you’re an SE, you also shouldn’t be tactically replacing out of a game, which is what could be argued if that slot had to suffer having as rough a partner as Sterling’s D1 ended up being.

[Maestro]

I… don’t know what to say to you TWF but yeah, BBT I’ve had my eye on that post for forever don’t worry. But now I’m worried it’s youuuuuuuuuu bc you didn’t have to do shiiiiiiit this game just let other ppl be shittier

[Maestro]

I… don’t know what to say to you TWF but yeah, BBT I’ve had my eye on that post for forever don’t worry. But now I’m worried it’s youuuuuuuuuu bc you didn’t have to do shiiiiiiit this game just let other ppl be shittier

It's really not me. I'll contribute more soon, now that I have some time this weekend, but that post was pretty awful.

And with that I'm done. Mod can find someone new. I'm tired of this. Peace out folks.

With all due respect, any criticism levied at you or Sterling even, this game, is not done out of malice or intended shittiness… it is always a game

[Maestro]

I didn’t even notice that post, lmao Wayward of COURSE the only possible elims today are you 3, I’m not going anywhere and I’m probably not voting catboi tbh so

[Maestro]

Ok let’s get Wayward what are those posts

[Maestro]

Fantastic please do! (not trying to be rude just making sure I am not prodded harumph)

[Maestro]

I actually can’t remember if BBT and I have played in a game together or not? I “recognize” a lot of players who were around and in games I read or games with mutuals back when I was originally active on-site (2013-2018 or so?), and I think BBT belongs to that large group

I’m inclined to agree not much substance coming from them, nothing to make them anything but a good elim

Need to read more closely what tapioca posted, will prob have time tonight

[Maestro]

Also lmao @ BBT’s signature being an agreement w my opening suspicion of catboi+response to your request that I meta-analyse them

[Maestro]

gg catboi carry!

[Maestro]

I don't know who exactly you're talking about, who you had this back-and-forth with, but I just feel the need to offer the response that it could be any number of things, and/or it could just be the fact that you're not the center of the game? No one player is; there's no main character here, which is kindof the energy I'm getting from this? idk

Again, I don't know what events/discussion you're referring to here or just citing a general vibe, bc I'll be honest - bad memory! It could be you were 1) not that players/many players' priority for the DayKill that Day, which is fine since we need to prioritize up to a certain point, and again there's no "main character" so you shouldn't be mad for not being a priority? 2) it seems at least a couple players found you ObvTown, not sure I agree but regardless, scum would be hesitant to push you if they saw anybody mention this, and/or remaining scum was probably spent loudly trying to scumhunt somewhere they thought they could have more success influencing, but hindsight is 20/20 here. I can't speak for the rest of town here, but I just don't think the response you had here was truly proportional to whatever "treatment" you think you went through here? Is it just me?

[Maestro]

Maybe it's just me. and absolutely no offense meant but just feel the need to say this since you came back in and keep bringing this up, but this was fairly tame for "a mafia game discussion that gets kindof heated and somebody ragequits the game," IMO

Saying this with all the kindness I can muster... and want to second what somebody else said! I really think it's worth reading/following more games as they happen, maybe try different queues after the Newbie Queue (or right now? some Mods would allow it, I would think, if you showed them some initiative and maybe a game or 2 on another site if you've played one?) and there will be an experience on this site that speaks to you

There's truly nowhere else like MS.net to play these kinds of games (or honestly, big social games of other types over in Mish Mash) on the internet, IMO, even if all forums now feel just a bit old-fashioned, IMO

[Maestro]

that was lot of IMO-ing,

imo

- hope the point is made tho