NY 183 - Apocalypse Mafia
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In post 3611, Grib wrote:If this game is normal and uses the normal standards for a Traitor, then
'A Traitor cannot be recruited to join the rest of the Mafia team, and is killed if shot.'
And if they're immune to the NK, they should be Bulletproof.
So.
I think this game was reviewed & approved before the normal standards for traitor went into affect (which was April).-
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In post 2286, Shinobi wrote:In post 2283, Ricastle wrote:Mod: Are we allowed to know the specifics on the variant of Traitor used in this game?
All you know about the role is that it is a Mafia Traitor.-
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In post 3649, Vampirate wrote:Should I flip Scum what is everyone's next course of action?
lynch Taly
In post 3649, Vampirate wrote:Should I flip Town what is everyone's next course of action?
lynch Taly-
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In post 3528, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Protected Rubicon last night.
I just realized, am I confirmed town by this? It seems like I might be, but I could be wrong and getting my hopes up.-
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For what it's worth, I think Nero is town even if he's not confirmed. His behavior has been pretty pro-town (Boon wagon, willingness to lynch KC and pisskop) and his reactions have seemed genuine and off-the-cuff the whole game.
I also think he tends to be less active and make fewer posts as town (consistently over the last 20+ games) and more willing to "go along" with his partners as scum as opposed to aggressively bussing. He was really getting in KC's face at times. This game could be an exception, of course, but combined with other elements of his play I would bet on him flipping town.-
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In post 3693, Rubicon wrote:I also think he tends to be less active and make fewer posts as(consistently over the last 20+ games)scum
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Perhaps everyone should post their PoE pool in order of scumminess and we lynch whoever is suspected the most.
Mine is Taly > Peace/PointY/Vampirate. The last three are pretty equal in my mind. Taly is my only firm guess for scum right now, with the other three as "maybes" if the game doesn't end with his death.-
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In post 3706, PeaceBringer wrote:In post 3693, Rubicon wrote:For what it's worth, I think Nero is town even if he's not confirmed. His behavior has been pretty pro-town (Boon wagon, willingness to lynch KC and pisskop) and his reactions have seemed genuine and off-the-cuff the whole game.
I also think he tends to be less active and make fewer posts as town (consistently over the last 20+ games) and more willing to "go along" with his partners as scum as opposed to aggressively bussing. He was really getting in KC's face at times. This game could be an exception, of course, but combined with other elements of his play I would bet on him flipping town.
here is my thoughts, there is someone not in suspect pool that is not worried about being tracked. That could be nero...
I got no problem with the plan...
I dunno what you mean by that.-
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In post 3709, PeaceBringer wrote:
if there are 2 scum left, possible, but if only one, then Taly did not act...
I do not get the logic here...
There was no kill, and Taly flaked before night. So your result doesn't necessarily prove anything.-
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I get the impression you want to head off us thinking you're ignoring this game in particular.
In post 3796, Nero Cain wrote:Its equally odd that Rubi and pointy find it scummy that I suspected Jbomber when THEY DID AS WELL.
I don't, I think you're town. And in any case I doubt you could have known Boonskiies was scum at the time, so eh.-
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In post 3798, Drixx wrote:Had an episode of Autonomic Dysreflexia this evening so I'm pretty knackered and will resume tomorrow.
I googled autonomic dysreflexia and it sounds pretty bad. Hope you're okay.
Looks like he posted this message in all his games by the way.-
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In post 3800, Nero Cain wrote:you did suspect me for a long time but
we should prob just lynch Drixx and see if that ends the game.
Hey, you told me your scum game was "pretty fucking awesome." You can't expect me not to be paranoid XD
I agree depending on what RIP has to say for himself.-
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This is your daily reminder that Grib shot Boonskiies.
In post 3871, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:But then, I don't know why RIP would lie...it would be easy for him to claim an inno on someone if he was scum...
Shall we get on with lynching Drixx and move this game forward?
Why would we lynch Drixx if RIP is lying?-
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Drixx is doing the same thing RM, pisskop and ika did. On the other hand, I have to wonder whether RIP really does stuff like this as town? It doesn't make sense for scum either, unless he's completely given up on the game and trolling, but that could be exactly what's going on.
Why aren't you more suspicious of him?-
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In post 3898, Nero Cain wrote:I'm pretty suspicious of anyone not named Dave and Grib and I'm just a little bias b/c I like my theory of 9/5.
What happened to your "OMG Taly slot is so scummy."?
The whole RIP thing?
But you didn't really answer my question. Why do you not want to lynch RIP?-
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In post 3918, PointYBagelS wrote:Actually I want to expand that question:
To people not voting either Nero or Rip: why not? It's pretty apparent that one or both of them is lying.
I agree with elusive, it's not obvious. Nero seems town and shouldn't really have claimed VT as ascetic. Meanwhile RIP was being treated as nearly confirmed town before this: why would he throw that away? What does he even gain from it?
It wouldn't exactly surprise me if we lynch RIP and he flips cop, we lynch Nero and he flips VT, and then when the game is over we find out there's a mafia JOAT and Shinobi laughs at us all for setup spec. Or RIP is somehow really confused and wasn't roleblocked at all. Or doing a stupid gambit.
In post 3919, Drixx wrote:Well unless the mod sent me the wrong role PM by mistake, the theory that my slot is scum because its previous player flaked and didn't submit a kill is mistaken. You may still feel like lynching me is the best play, but you should talk through other options because you aren't going to get scum out of my flip. Shouldn't waste the time on that assumption.
Wanna answer my question?-
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What's your theory of what happened last night if I'm scum?
In post 3937, Nero Cain wrote:I feel like Pointy's "one of Nero/RIP have to be scum" is false dichotomy. I don't think it makes a ton of sense on RIPs part as scum. I mean, part of me wants to be right b/c he was playing poorly/scummy but then who here isn't playing poorly?
Quite a few people. That's why we've killed three scum in the last three day-night phases.
FMPOV, we had a pretty good guess at who the final scum were and then RIP said something that seemed mechanically impossible and since none of us can explain it, we're kind of going crazy second guessing ourselves trying to figure it out. In other words, the Mist.
I really, really want to just lynch the person who is scummy and playing just like the last few scum we've lynched (Drixx) but PB's point above does give me pause.-
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In post 3937, Nero Cain wrote:I feel like Pointy's "one of Nero/RIP have to be scum" is false dichotomy.
I've been mulling over the idea that he's scum who knows his only chance at victory is lynching outside the PoE pool. He's not the only person suggesting we lynch one of you/RIP, but he seems really eager to lynch you in particular.-
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In post 3949, elusive wrote:I don't know if he's lying, I think we may have to lynch him to confirm
My concern is that we don't really learn anything if he flips town cop.-
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In post 3957, Drixx wrote:In post 3955, Grib wrote:Like. Drixx, I'm sorry about your condition, and I highly doubt you /want/ to read the game and fight your lynch, but I think if you were town you'd at least be trying, or you'd replace out instead of doing /absolutely nothing/ except saying 'oh yeah I'm VT you shouldn't lynch me.'
Okay cool, well you can apologize for your faux sincerity later. You can check my post history and see what that brush with unpleasantness impacted. If you want something substantive from me, you're going to have to wait for me to read the thread.
Remember how I asked for a summary or a link to good summary posts? I don't recall anyone giving a summary or linking to any summary posts.
I asked for what the case against me was, and apparently it's because I replaced someone who site flaked and a no kill happened so there's not actually any reason in my slot ISO to suspect me. That sort of thing is frowned upon isn't it? I mean ... isn't the reason you can't see when someone is online/offline and what they are doing on the site set the way it is because people would try and game the game by seeing who was doing PMs at night phase and watching for people to be online at times that gave clues as to whether they had a role or clues to their alignment.
Trying to game the game using things outside the game is just not cool. You shouldn't do it.
If someone wants to give me a summary, that would be super cool. If not, you can wait until I finish reading the 4,000 posts for my thoughts on everyone alive. That's how it goes. I don't replace into a game if I'm not willing to read through and catch up on what happened, in context. It is in context where a lot of things can get missed by lazy replacements. Not the way I roll (intentional joke).
There's like nearly 7 days until the deadline and apparently there's like only a couple people under lynch consideration ... so there seems to be no reason to rush just at the moment.
The question that occurs to me at the moment is:Who benefits from silencing me before I can share my thoughts on the game and the players alive with fresh eyes?-- Town players would do well to ask that question; you may find it useful in your thinking about the game. I happily have tomorrow free of obligations so shouldn't take me too much more time to finish reading the thread.
I'd lynch you just for this post.
The first 3500 posts of this game are not very important. They're about people we already lynched. The postssince you replaced inhave covered everything you need to know about claims, mechanical stuff, interactions, etc. And a lot of shit has happened since you replaced in that you've ignored.
I understand wanting to read, but you can also just follow along and ask questions. Look stuff up in ISOs. Or even share your thoughts as you read so we know you're alive.
But you seem overwhelmed by the game and angry that people are voting you. You're overreacting to pressure at a point when your wagon has like 1-2 votes. And you're ignoring questions about other players. That makes me think you're scum.-
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In post 3965, Drixx wrote:@Rubicon - Not overwhelmed or emotionally bothered at all. If one plays mafia, one is going to get voted and lynched. The most likely statistical outcome of a given game is that you will be a townie and be lynched. If you can't handle that, don't play.
(shrug) That's a good attitude, but doesn't match your play so far.-
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Uh huh.
In post 3978, Vampirate wrote:OK i'm just tempted to vote Nero now, but before I do, Rubicon besides being ascetic or having a roleblock on RIP what other possible scenarios can be taken for 'No Result'?
ascetic
commuter
backup roleblocker
joat w/ roleblock or jailkeep
rolestopper
RIP lying or being wrong-
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elusive, maybe... if he's both town and untargetable? But I don't know if that makes sense.
RIP,
Do you think scum-Grib has a vig shot he used on his partner?
Which of the roles I listed above do you think is most likely in this game?
Did you ever PM Shinobi to double-check whether you were roleblocked?-
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