Mini 1749: Classic Rock Mafia: Game Over!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #3 (isolation #0) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 8:14 pm

VOTE: َAlbert

and his avatar's freaky eyes

Frozen Angel · Post Post #27 (isolation #1) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 9:05 pm

In post 7, Dwlee99 wrote:You changed your avatar.

whats scummy about it ?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #29 (isolation #2) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 9:08 pm

In post 24, MattP wrote:It's pretty innocuous to try to move RVS along by prodding RVS votes?

isn't it?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #34 (isolation #3) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 9:13 pm

In post 31, MattP wrote:
In post 29, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 24, MattP wrote:It's pretty innocuous to try to move RVS along by prodding RVS votes?

isn't it?

This is what you have to add to the conversation?

The conversation went forward pretty well. and gammr sniped me sooo, yeah. what do you want me to add to conversation?

this ?

VOTE: Mattp L2

soooo

Is is bad to get out of RVS with a flash wagon?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #35 (isolation #4) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 9:13 pm

In post 32, iraonavp wrote:
In post 27, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 7, Dwlee99 wrote:You changed your avatar.

whats scummy about it ?

I am fairly sure that Dwlee99's comment about Garmr's avatar was not implying that it was indicative of a scum-aligned player, it was an RVS vote no different from several others.

And really, what answers would you honestly expect from this question? An avatar is very clearly not indicative of alignment.

That was a joke. I just changed my avatar myself ... :/

Frozen Angel · Post Post #37 (isolation #5) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 9:15 pm

In post 36, MattP wrote:Lel

This is what you have to add to the conversation?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #39 (isolation #6) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 9:16 pm

with commenting on that post

I was about to post something similar and I saw he did.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #40 (isolation #7) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 9:16 pm

post 28 and 29

Frozen Angel · Post Post #45 (isolation #8) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 9:30 pm

In post 25, RadiantCowbells wrote:Comment on the music if you like it

also I forgot!

your musics are awesome!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #51 (isolation #9) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 9:36 pm

In post 46, MattP wrote:
In post 43, Garmr wrote:Well it's first page, I said lets wagon him and there was no case on aero thus it's obvious to see it's a rvs wagon. Also I think Dwlee would of said something if his vote was serious. It's more the fact you were trying to push yourself as harmless instead of trying to dismiss my position as weak.

I think your push is town-oriented even if I disagree with it, which affects my tone in how I talk to you.

I think if I were questioning someone for the analogy you used about red/gold then it would be a clearly pointless push. However, there's merit on page 1 of a game to question a vote with possible reasoning

I'm not pushing my point as being harmless, I meant helpful. "Innocuous" was not the correct word.

so whats your read on the people who are following the wagon?

whats your feeling about the wagon itself?

and what your gonna do to prove to your town read that your town and his tunneling on you is wrong?

I mean town!you would try to do that. wouldn't he?

your reaction to wagon was "calm" (can't find a better world for it)

Frozen Angel · Post Post #52 (isolation #10) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 9:37 pm

word*

Frozen Angel · Post Post #63 (isolation #11) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:20 am

In post 61, Taly wrote:I want to say Matt is town for being so quickly pushed L-2 by the 2nd page, just for saying "Why" to a wagon.... His reasoning doesn't mark me as scummy, unless I'm missing something?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=64070

Blocky was town who got lol-hammered day 1?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #64 (isolation #12) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:20 am

In post 61, Taly wrote:quickly pushed L-2

whats makes him town base on this?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #66 (isolation #13) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:27 am

No just saying the fact day 1 fast wagons can be on scums as well. why your saying he is town for that?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #67 (isolation #14) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:30 am

In post 65, Taly wrote:> I've yet to see RVS wagons hit scum, despite how uncredible this reason is.
> How can scum be so quickly pushed to L-2? You'd think someone would have a stance opposing it but I don't see much of any resistance here.
> "Why?" Isn't a good basis for a scumread. I can see if they had meta congruent to this and someone would like to keep someone at L-2 there... But it doesn't really make sense. Questions in RVS should be asked, and that's how I'm seeing this wagon formed over.

> so your saying as well it might be on scum
> because people joined/bussed the wagon to testify him?
> Look my vote as a reaction test. can you see other votes as pure scum read or just try to pressure ?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #68 (isolation #15) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:33 am

In post 65, Taly wrote:You'd think someone would have a stance opposing it but I don't see much of any resistance here.

Imagine someone resisted against the wagon. was it a scum buddy who just freaked out about the fast wagon? or was it a town who tries to solve the game?

Which one are you?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #71 (isolation #16) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:52 am

In post 70, Taly wrote:Cheekier than the previous game?

Just trying to be a cute little frozen angel

Frozen Angel · Post Post #73 (isolation #17) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:57 am

In post 72, Dwlee99 wrote:I don't feel comfortable when people claim to be on medication. :/

So are you comfortable with the L2 wagon on him?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #78 (isolation #18) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:04 am

RC you mind confirming that we need 7 votes to lynch?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #94 (isolation #19) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 7:06 am

Post #28 » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:37 pm

Post #29 » Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:38 pm

You know... you got me brother. lets lynch all liars ...

ARE YOU SIRIOUS?

and whats your definition of importance?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #96 (isolation #20) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 7:11 am

In post 91, Dierfire wrote:seemed a little off in 34.

actually I want explanation about this. Why you think I was a little off in post 34 ?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #97 (isolation #21) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 7:12 am

In post 88, AlwaysInnocent wrote:Would Taly claim if he is scum?

Why are you asking this?

MattP wrote:VOTE: iraonvp

Why are you voting him ?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #111 (isolation #22) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:09 am

bringing a claimed miller in lylo is extremely dangerous but we can just ignore it till that point

Frozen Angel · Post Post #117 (isolation #23) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 11:22 am

In post 115, Taly wrote:Lowell seems town, their opening post comes across as genuine to me. Similar thinking with FA.

In post 61, Taly wrote:Gut read on FA is town like in our previous game, but not solid.

Your agreed with him in what exactly? that I lied about the sniped thing or that post was off ? or that I brought nothing to game so far?

I'm here , talk to me

Frozen Angel · Post Post #118 (isolation #24) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 11:22 am

I think that happened because you reached the maximum character

Frozen Angel · Post Post #121 (isolation #25) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 11:45 am

In post 120, Taly wrote:Why exactly did you vote there? Do you find him to be scum? I'm not seeing much reasoning there.

testing... still in progress

I'll let you know later!

about Gramr , I don't find his push scummy. I can see why he triggered of there. about others in wagon, I don't like to talk yet, till I see their next lines of posts.

I was talking about Lowell. what part of his post about me you find your agreed with?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #140 (isolation #26) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:28 pm

I really don't know how should I respond to post 129

Frozen Angel · Post Post #153 (isolation #27) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:51 pm

Not again ..........

Frozen Angel · Post Post #154 (isolation #28) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:52 pm

(ongoing I'm going to shut up)

Frozen Angel · Post Post #177 (isolation #29) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 8:28 pm

ok

VOTE: Radja

So anything about the players who are actually playing the game? Isn't it to soon to accuse someone about active lurking?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #180 (isolation #30) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 8:39 pm

In post 176, Radja wrote:P-edit: You are actively not engaging in the game, while Mathilda is not around and will get replaced if it continues. That's a big difference. I have asked you a question twice and you refuse to answer. Which probably means you have no answer for it. That gives me a scumread on you.

you asked that once and he answered it BTW. he stated that he want to push Mathilda slot till he find something worth to push for. I think this is a quiet misrepresenting about what happened to make the easiest vote out of Mattp since it was getting messy there.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #188 (isolation #31) » Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:05 am

In post 184, Aeronaut wrote:I'm curious why you even felt the need to ask this question.

to ask mod to put a vote confirmation in vote counts? sure! to make sure I'm counting right and we need 7 votes to lynch someone!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #261 (isolation #32) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:41 am

In post 235, Dierfire wrote:The vote on Mathilda is fine, but if the point was to get a better read on Mathilda, then why remove it before Mathilda returns?

because he found something actually scummy? :/

Actually I'm accusing you for active lurking. your posts has no real content but some silly accusations , some stupid questions , easy votes and some fluff.

oh as I'm catching up I can see others pointed that as well

@Dweele why you think Direfire is town again?

@Mattp I don't think I can see Gamr post as role fishing. I suspected that myself too. Some people say those stuff for later claims. Although I have more scummy cases to follow atm but your reaction to that wagon wasn't genuine.

@Radja

Radja wrote:
About the miller claim, what I mean is that it's not unlikely it will sort itself out. Whether you are lying or not, there are PR's in this game, and it is possible for one of them to out you if you are lying. So you get to live through day 1, at least. I'll deal with your claim if it becomes a problem(which would be right before LYLO, most likely)

your not serious are you?! If his miller claim is true then our investigator rule must be a cop or the miller thing is meaningless. This setup speculation is SO DAMN WRONG.

But as I said before I'm agreed with your second part about claimed Miller need to be lynched before Lylo. there is no way I'm going to accept the gambit of having a cop guilty result in lylo just because he claimed Miller.

and have you anything regarding to answer my 177 ? or you just wanna keep ignoring it?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #265 (isolation #33) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:02 am

In post 264, Dwlee99 wrote:@FA I think that dier is actively trying to solve the game

that's an interesting view ... How exactly?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #267 (isolation #34) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:09 am

What about his questions help the town. talk to me about it.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #271 (isolation #35) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:06 am

In post 269, Lowell wrote:lso an fos Frozen. Largely gut here, but in general the case is: asking questions is helpful, until it isn't anymore, and Frozen may be assuming more a "leadership" role than a "being helpful" role.

ha?!! I asked people to follow me?! :/ I'm asking questions to get a read on people.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #273 (isolation #36) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:28 am

In post 261, Frozen Angel wrote:Actually I'm accusing you for active lurking. your posts has no real content but some silly accusations , some stupid questions , easy votes and some fluff.

oh as I'm catching up I can see others pointed that as well

^ this.

I'm still wondering why your town reading him for those posts.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #285 (isolation #37) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:32 am

@Dire now ABR is not here so whats your point? he posted after Mathilda show up not acting as he promised before?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #305 (isolation #38) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 7:32 am

even better than radja? if yes why?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #310 (isolation #39) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 7:35 am

In post 293, AlwaysInnocent wrote:but he is still trying to scumhunt (despite the pressure) and I like that.

this is literally not explaining anything. please show me where he tried to scum hunt?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #316 (isolation #40) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 7:43 am

you wanna answer me about radja?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #322 (isolation #41) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 7:49 am

ok you missed my 310 or ignored it ?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #329 (isolation #42) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 8:08 am

ok I'm happy with my vote atm.

first : It won't. and I think It shouldn't. why are you so sure about that? I won't let the miller to reach Lylo because we hadn't something who could sort her out.

second : really?!... continue saying this and you will just grantee your lynch.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #342 (isolation #43) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 8:40 am

lol calling the miller claim "just town" is not beautiful man

Frozen Angel · Post Post #345 (isolation #44) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 8:43 am

In post 343, AlwaysInnocent wrote:Alright, Frozen Angel. You are not entirely unreasonable. Let's say fence-town then. For now. OK? We will deal with him on D2, agreed? Or do you want to deal with him now?

as I said LYLO is danger point . I can't accept to carry her with town till then. I can ignore the claim for now.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #347 (isolation #45) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 8:45 am

In post 344, AlwaysInnocent wrote:What do you think of my other reads?

I'm not following Radja townread.Like at all

I'm considering Mattp in null category.

In rest I can't argue.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #350 (isolation #46) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 8:53 am

or just a trapped scum who think his scum buddies can make a counter wagon ?

I really can't give him town cred for that comment

Frozen Angel · Post Post #352 (isolation #47) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 8:55 am

Frozen Angel · Post Post #353 (isolation #48) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 8:56 am

In post 351, RadiantCowbells wrote:NO MY PAGETOP

Deal with it!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #354 (isolation #49) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 8:57 am

hhheeeyyy!!!!!!!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #355 (isolation #50) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 8:58 am

Frozen Angel · Post Post #358 (isolation #51) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 9:00 am

so this is WIFOM. I think I don't wanna guess whats the reason his so confident at this point.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #359 (isolation #52) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 9:00 am

That was a joke right RC?!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #361 (isolation #53) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 9:09 am

In post 360, RadiantCowbells wrote:Joke removed. Sorry for any confusion caused.

No need to sorry , that was fine

Frozen Angel · Post Post #374 (isolation #54) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 7:12 pm

In post 366, Dierfire wrote:
@Frozen

In post 285, Frozen Angel wrote:@Dire now ABR is not here so whats your point? he posted after Mathilda show up not acting as he promised before?

I don't understand this question. Are you able to rephrase?

Since ABR never posted after Mathilda return , why you think he broke his promise?!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #375 (isolation #55) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 7:16 pm

In post 368, iraonavp wrote:
Lowell Simulator 2015Back again. Let's continue with some reads.

340- AlwaysInnocent makes colored reads, but he calls himself "just town" [+, disagree, but sensible]
342- Frozen Angel is concerned more with "beauty" than actually playing the game [-]
349- AlwaysInnocent posts a defense of Radja [+, I like this, agreed]
351- RadiantCowbells seems a bit too concerned about pagetops [-, doth protest too much]
352- Frozen Angel makes a useless single-emoticon post
358- Frozen Angel tries to use WIFOM [-, casting doubt on doubt on wagon without disputing it]
359- Outrage at fake mod flip [-, shows Frozen Angel is overly concerned that RadiantCowbells revealed her real role]
360- RadiantCowbells tries to avoid confusing the town [+]
363- Lowell openly can't explain his slight townread on Garmr [-]
365- AlwaysInnocent buddies Lowell [-]

> concerned about Beauty?!!! you really read that post?
> that single useless emoticon post , that was about RC joke. RC deleted the joke that seems I'm crazy atm

> AI was saying this might be from a town who thinks innicent won't die! I said his confident might be from scum who think he has support. talking about that is a pure WIFOM.

if you can't read my post at least ask questions. publishing stupid misrepresentations won't help you jerk

Frozen Angel · Post Post #376 (isolation #56) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 7:16 pm

another page top ^^^^

Frozen Angel · Post Post #377 (isolation #57) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 7:24 pm

In post 373, Taly wrote:FA can you explain your continued push on Radja? I'm not seeing scum motivation over there at this point... I'm a little agitated that my claims being treated as if its a future death-sentence rather than based on the principle of it being claimed, but I can understand where it's coming from.... :/ Other than that, and Radja whose consistently posted in a way I originally thought was stiff, Radja is leaning town atm.

I think ABR push is useless atm. since I think people are just making excuses to vote him.

I want to reanalyze Mattp - Garmr posts to see what is both of them view, this might be a TvT after all the new posts of Mattp.

and I can definitely understand a dire push as well.

Radja posts seems definitely content less. I think he is just posting to say" I said what I wanted before! Hell! I don't like to bother myself and play anymore!"

this is town motivated?!!!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #414 (isolation #58) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:10 am

Why no one else is pressuring Radja? He just parked his vote and Confessed he is going to contribute nothing to the game.

How could possibly anyone consider him town lean atm?!!!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #416 (isolation #59) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:21 am

In post 415, AlwaysInnocent wrote:He said he wasn't going to move his vote until some conditions are met. I would like Albert B. sorted out, too.

He is VLA , and I can't see any case against Albert. their just accusing him of active lurking when they are the real active lurkers ...

Frozen Angel · Post Post #417 (isolation #60) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:22 am

In post 415, AlwaysInnocent wrote:Because of his other posts.

If he is scum, we will get him eventually. But I don't think he is.

there are no other posts.

No content

anything!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #419 (isolation #61) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:24 am

there is just a comment about Gamr and Mattp fight in RVS + some comments about the Miller claim which were already been told by me ...

and lots of "I won't talk until see Albert!"

pedit : I didn't saw any Albert post then , I think He was without mentioning it. Radja never waited to see Albert posts after Mathilda return. He just parked his vote there.

Radja?!!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #421 (isolation #62) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:39 am

Direfire case is not solid , But I might w8 for Albert to answer that.

Mattp is still in my scum lean.

I'm going to ignore Miller claim of Taly as I said before (for now) and I think he is town because I like his posts so far - at least for now.

Gamr is so hard tunneling Mattp atm but thats no alignment indicative - more town sided.

I have no solid reads on Iaron. I guess he is weird in some degree but I cant say if its scummy or not.

about Dweele , yeah I really don't like his posts.

you seems town. I like your posts and your readlist overall.

anyway I'm happy about wagoning Radja.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #423 (isolation #63) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:45 am

he is null

Frozen Angel · Post Post #424 (isolation #64) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:45 am

why you ask that?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #426 (isolation #65) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:49 am

No I;m curious. Why you think I have a read on a slot who didn't provided any content to the game?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #433 (isolation #66) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:51 am

In post 431, Taly wrote:Plus, voting someone with the argument of not much content is really not credible. It verges on the grounds of a policy lynch and we learn very little from it. Unless you have something in mind?

No other person can take this accuse. He is ACTIVELY LURKING . not LURKING.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #434 (isolation #67) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:52 am

and its definetly not a policy lynch if its going to be a lynch at all. at minimum I'm requesting some pressure on this slot

Frozen Angel · Post Post #451 (isolation #68) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:58 pm

In post 443, Radja wrote:I voted Albert after he said he was not going to contribute. After that, he parked his vote on me without explanation. I wanted to hear more from him, so I left my vote there. Now he continues to post nothing and goes on V/LA.

What are you on about me not waiting for Albert to return? This looks like you're trying to discredit me for shitty reasons.

you contributed 0 detail about the running game. I'm discrediting you for shitty reasons?

In post 443, Radja wrote:I also never said I wouldn't talk. I said I wasn't moving my vote. I have been interacting with others in the meantime as well.

lets talk. whats you opinion about Direfire and Mattp ? and how do you reach that conclusions about them?

In post 443, Radja wrote:If you're talking about voteparking, what have you been doing? You've been voting me, and complain about not more people voting me, instead of bringing in new content or trying to interact with me. at least iroan was asking me questions when he was voting me.

for the love of god! Everyone who votes are not "vote parking". its a term used for voting someone who is not here and using it to stay away from the game progression.

In post 443, Radja wrote:Why don't YOU pressure me?

I'm not? oh yeah maybe not enough!

pedit :Wow, is vig claim normal in normal games?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #452 (isolation #69) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:59 pm

that's my lack of experience ^^^

Frozen Angel · Post Post #455 (isolation #70) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:01 pm

I never said is the role normal or not.

I said its claim is normal or not ...

Frozen Angel · Post Post #456 (isolation #71) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:02 pm

I think I read somewhere SK's best claim is vig.... I can't remember where and having SK is normal in normal games sooo, I don't know how should I exactly react to a vig claim ...

Frozen Angel · Post Post #458 (isolation #72) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:06 pm

WHEN I SAID VIG IS NOT NORMAL. I ASKED WHATS THE OPTIMAL PLAY WHEN SOMEBODY CLAIMS THAT.

why you misrep me?!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #461 (isolation #73) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:10 pm

vig claim. not vig role

I asked is vig claim normal in normal games or not... means I have no idea what should I do with it.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #462 (isolation #74) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:11 pm

I know vig role is pretty normal. I have no idea if the "vig claim" is a normal move or not

Frozen Angel · Post Post #465 (isolation #75) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:17 pm

Can you understand me?!!!

or you need me to say that in french ?

est-ce une chose normale à la revendication si vous êtes un vigilants ? ou pas ?

pedit : I have no idea why should a PR claim in day 1 like that. because vig is too easy to follow? why shouldn't mafia kill you tonight? why is that a good thing to claim ?

pedit again : you said because its easily followable. I don't find a reason why shouldn't you be an SK how tried to claim vig. I know I'm bad at setup speculation thing because I'm not that experienced. but I have concerns!

why shouldn't mafia kill you tonight if your a real vig ?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #467 (isolation #76) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:24 pm

In post 466, MattP wrote:It's not a big deal if I'm NKd.

ha?

vig is not a town PR? it doubles town power to kill ... why your death is not a big deal?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #470 (isolation #77) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:27 pm

Frozen Angel · Post Post #473 (isolation #78) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:45 pm

I need to think about it. thx. I have a very better feeling about the claim right now. sorry for being a noob

Frozen Angel · Post Post #478 (isolation #79) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 10:44 pm

lol! FBBBBBBBBBBB *love*

Frozen Angel · Post Post #489 (isolation #80) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:28 am

In post 483, iraonavp wrote:I am in fact an extremely Normal Person playing as part of this Normal Game.

sorry for the bad choice of words

(I call people who I think their leaning town but do some things which can be considered scummy by word weird and the people who I think are scum and suddenly start doing towny things as creepy ) . please don't take it personal!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #490 (isolation #81) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:29 am

In post 487, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Radja, if you play chicken with me, you will blink first, I guarantee it.

talk to me. what do you think about Dire?

whats your read on Mathilda few recent posts?

anything about the ongoing game?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #505 (isolation #82) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:22 am

@ABR I'm still waiting for your answers. being like him to show how easy that is for scum literally proves nothing

I'm totally lost with this vig claim. I think we need to give matt imanuity for this night

@Taly ha?!! why because I'm voting with ABR on same slot?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #508 (isolation #83) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:53 am

In post 507, AlwaysInnocent wrote:Dwlee

You don't wanna give a chance to FB ?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #510 (isolation #84) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 6:02 am

Frozen Angel · Post Post #526 (isolation #85) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 6:06 pm

In post 515, Taly wrote:Well, that. And I'm still trying to figure out how to read you to in retrospect of our previous game....

hmm, I wasn't actually playing that one. I have no idea why I didn't got lynched in that game :/

But what is my similar vote with ABR is actually mean?! I don't know what are you trying to achieve here , but for clarification I'm not voting Radja because ABR is doing that as well, I'm accusing him of Active lurking and I want more pressure on that slot.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #540 (isolation #86) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:24 pm

In post 528, Firebringer wrote:Hey FA, whats your opinion on Aeronaut?

don't know, didn't read his posts in depth but slight town.

the only thing I don't like is his buddying me. I don't think we have a shared meta but he stated he meta read me as town (this may be counted as me paranoid - because I literally hate when people meta read me)

Frozen Angel · Post Post #543 (isolation #87) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:02 pm

In post 542, Garmr wrote:I think determine radja alignment would help a lot with this. If he is town then 1 or 2 scum may of shifted from your wagon onto his.

I have no idea why Radja wagon disbanded so soon. why you think that happened? why no one has anything to say about my push against him? why no one is pressuring him?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #546 (isolation #88) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:25 pm

In post 544, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Radja is a waste of time

Frozen Angel · Post Post #548 (isolation #89) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:32 pm

Garmr and AI - Taly and you as claimed things are in next stage of solid town reads for now.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #550 (isolation #90) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:34 pm

if I want to put people in order it will be like this :

AI
Garmr
Mattp
Taly

lowell
Aero

ABR
iraon
FB

Dire
Mathilda
Radja

Frozen Angel · Post Post #551 (isolation #91) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:35 pm

Radja needs to provide content or he will stay there. I don't care what you guys think but he is faking himself as town and I don't buy his posts from town mindset for one sec

Frozen Angel · Post Post #554 (isolation #92) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:40 pm

2 reasons

- I like his argument with iaron
- I like his recent posts about Mathilda

and that's my null-slight town lean slot (not that high)

Frozen Angel · Post Post #559 (isolation #93) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:46 pm

In post 203, Lowell wrote:Iraon's reaction here just looks confusing. Votes without explanation (especially one RL day into the game) aren't that uncommon. Also, he's never mentioned radja before this, so it's not clear why this sarcastic, exasperated "oh not again!" reaction is warranted.

In post 269, Lowell wrote:Iraon's treatment of the mattwagon is classic wagon-aversion. Despite being on the matt wagon from the beginning (before it was dangerous), iraon several times subtly tries to derail it ("well, maybe it is the drugs, idk"... "there's 'nuance', *shrugs shoulders*") without unvoting. Then, when (thank heavens!) someone gives him the excuse to jump by accusing him of going for an easy lynch, he jumps (161)! Haha, showed you guys, I didn't settle for an easy lynch-- but OMG you guys don't worry I still think matt may be scum, btw!

In post 363, Lowell wrote:I'd like more pressure on iraon, please. Seems like he just said "LOL your reads OMG" and there won't be any consequences. Or I guess we could all just OMGUS each other forever.

pedit : what?!!! I siriously saw nothing alignment indicative from you. you parked voted matilda then voted Radja when he said your not doing anything ingame and disappeared completely till today that you came back and

saying Radja is not happening today

Frozen Angel · Post Post #563 (isolation #94) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:50 pm

Why is Radja is not happening today?!!

I'm totally concerned about what you just said! - more I think Its getting more scummier -

pedit : this is so damn manipulative ABR. I only have 1 shared game with you and I failed reading you as scum. you wagoned your teammate since day 1. your not doing that here but How can i know How you usually play your scum games?!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #568 (isolation #95) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:55 pm

I NEVER VOTED RADJA BECAUSE YOU WERE THERE. MY SCUM READING HIM HAS NO RELATION WITH READING YOU.

What are you implying here?

pedit : yes I read 1 or two. you done nothing scum indicative thats why your in my null list. you really have a problem with that?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #569 (isolation #96) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:56 pm

In post 561, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Do you think this is how I play scum, Frozen?

@Mattp he asked like if I'm not scumreading him atm I must town read him. I'm not going to do that.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #571 (isolation #97) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:57 pm

I just simply can see that vote from town or scum you.

yeah you did last game on Ice, didn't you?!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #574 (isolation #98) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:01 pm

In post 563, Frozen Angel wrote:your not doing that here but How can i know How you usually play your scum games?!

In post 571, Frozen Angel wrote:

I just simply can see that vote from town or scum you.

yeah you did last game on Ice, didn't you?!

if thats the slip your talking about I must say I wasn't thinking about the possible reasons of ABR vote on Radja when I posted the first

Frozen Angel · Post Post #577 (isolation #99) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:02 pm

ninjaed

I was shaping my thought process.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #580 (isolation #100) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:04 pm

You just showed me the possibility of doing the same thing you did in your last scum game!

I wasn't seeing that before your question!

pedit : sure!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #582 (isolation #101) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:05 pm

Frozen Angel · Post Post #583 (isolation #102) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:05 pm

In post 571, Frozen Angel wrote:

I just simply can see that vote from town or scum you.

yeah you did last game on Ice, didn't you?!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #584 (isolation #103) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:06 pm

this implies I think your not bussing Radja ... right.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #585 (isolation #104) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:06 pm

I'm currently more happy with my vote

Frozen Angel · Post Post #587 (isolation #105) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:08 pm

I didn't found it when I said I didn't saw you doing that in my first post!

You showed me the possibility of that!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #588 (isolation #106) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:10 pm

If it was vise versa (I thought you could have done that and denied it in my next post) that was A SLIP. but I didn't slipped! I just simply saw a new possibility.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #589 (isolation #107) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:13 pm

In post 571, Frozen Angel wrote:

I just simply can see that vote from town or scum you.

yeah you did last game on Ice, didn't you?!

Any thing else I must answer?!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #594 (isolation #108) » Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:30 am

Whats your read on Radja and ABR , mathilda?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #606 (isolation #109) » Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:54 pm

In post 596, Mathilda wrote:ABR - opportunistic fluff poster with very little content. Doesn't explain himself or add any other information unless he has to defend himself or asked for clarification.
Radja - Compared with ABR he does actually try to apply pressure to other people and scrutinise what they are saying, asking specific questions to catch them out.

talk about them solo. Whats your read on Radja without comparing him to ABR ?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #651 (isolation #110) » Sun Jan 03, 2016 6:36 pm

Get out of here!

I said what happened there ... like 10 times! If you can't count it a town slip its definitely not a scum slip. I'm town and you cant change the fact by making noise.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #657 (isolation #111) » Sun Jan 03, 2016 7:03 pm

see! the point is I didn't saw the way you sheeped Ice last game anywhere in game. you said what about my radja vote? and I suddenly realized it can be it.

so get out of here! I was shaping my thoughts about my meta read on you as YOU asked for it.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #662 (isolation #112) » Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:19 pm

In post 660, davesaz wrote:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:That doesn't make any sense.
I agree.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #663 (isolation #113) » Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:28 pm

I know your trying to scum hunt and my inconsistansy about meta reading you is a slip. But Your mistaking ABR. I'm town and that wasn't a scum slip

Frozen Angel · Post Post #669 (isolation #114) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:08 am

UNVOTE:

Frozen Angel · Post Post #670 (isolation #115) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:09 am

I need time to think about my reads and I will give time to the new replacement to express his/her reads.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #772 (isolation #116) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 1:50 am

oO FB claimed scum??

Frozen Angel · Post Post #775 (isolation #117) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 1:54 am

Mathilda if scum can w8

We have a scum claimer VOTE: Firebringer

Frozen Angel · Post Post #780 (isolation #118) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:07 am

He pushed someone and that someone definitely SLIPPED that he is scum! it doesn't matter what was AI's motives there. FB said He is Scum ! fortunately it was 4 am and his brain couldn't stop him from denying that he is scum !

FB who saw what is happening tried to troll and blaming the time!

Lets lynch the scum

Frozen Angel · Post Post #781 (isolation #119) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:09 am

In post 779, AlwaysInnocent wrote:2. It generates information. For example, Frozen Angel changed her vote because of it, which gives us something to read her by.

I have 119 other posts beside this one. I'm sure you have enough info to read me by for now.

whats that vote gonna tell about me?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #783 (isolation #120) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:21 am

In post 782, Firebringer wrote:
In post 780, Frozen Angel wrote:He pushed someone and that someone definitely SLIPPED that he is scum! it doesn't matter what was AI's motives there. FB said He is Scum ! fortunately it was 4 am and his brain couldn't stop him from denying that he is scum !

FB who saw what is happening tried to troll and blaming the time!

Lets lynch the scum

Thats not what happened at all lol, but okay. Someone put a tin foil hat on FA.

what do you mean that wasn't what happened ! :/ It was exactly what happened!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #788 (isolation #121) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:28 am

In post 785, Mathilda wrote:That's because I am not defending myself.

why?!

if your town show us your town

Frozen Angel · Post Post #790 (isolation #122) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:34 am

lets lynch fire !

Frozen Angel · Post Post #795 (isolation #123) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:41 am

In post 793, AlwaysInnocent wrote:
In post 790, Frozen Angel wrote:lets lynch fire !
We can Lynch Firebringer tomorrow. Let's stick with Mathilda for now. Unless we have reason to believe she is town, which I highly doubt.

I'm not feeling it! Mathilda seems so despratly gave up! that scares me ...

I can just see how FB will flip red! His response to my vote was just unbelivibly scummy. Like he Knows he is scum and he just want to laugh at his slip!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #813 (isolation #124) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:29 am

I can accept mathilda lynch and a vig shot on fire bringer.

I think Mathilda is in L1?

I intent to hammer her. her try to show she is mislynch and the fact she "don't wanna defend herself" are scum tells.

I'm not interested in any other lynches after my reread. ABR seems scumhunting in his odd way. AI seems so invested on mathilda lynch and Direfire seems just messing around (I still don't have a strong read about him)

Frozen Angel · Post Post #814 (isolation #125) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:29 am

I can accept mathilda lynch and a vig shot on fire bringer.

I think Mathilda is in L1?

I intent to hammer her. her try to show she is mislynch and the fact she "don't wanna defend herself" are scum tells.

I'm not interested in any other lynches after my reread. ABR seems scumhunting in his odd way. AI seems so invested on mathilda lynch and Direfire seems just messing around (I still don't have a strong read about him)

Frozen Angel · Post Post #821 (isolation #126) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:03 am

I'm suggesting this again : FB is much more likely scum! I like were my vote is atm . and I'm ok with mathilda lynch

Dire is not someone who I'm actually scumreading atm. he seems a very hard readable town who is just branching ...

Frozen Angel · Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:26 am

In post 856, MattP wrote:Uh you said I was null and then that developed into "TvT with Garmr" and then suddenly a scumlean? How does that discrepancy make sense?

the fuck are you talking about?! your comparing my initial read on your fight in page 3/4 (I don't even recall it) to something I reached in page 9/10?!

I asked you a question. I said why I thought your acting wierd I made posts there about my thought process...

what the f?!

Frozen Angel · Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:44 am

In post 866, MattP wrote:Like you've been questioned like 10 times this game and every time you freak out at the person who does it

Mattp. your free to check my meta. When I get accused , I jusmp out. this is me being me - > completly no alignment indicative

look at this game when I was obv and people couldn't lynch me and the way I jumped on Ari ?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=64429

you can check all of my games in wiki.

plus about your case I said This might be TvT and I'm going to reanalyze your case and I stated that I'm still on my previous read that was scum reading you.

Frozen Angel · Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:47 am

Iso me ... I was somehow scumreading you.

Not totally scum but yes I was getting scum vibes from you ...

pedit : Its my fucking personality and I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. THATS A PSYCHOTHERAPY ISSUE THAT I have for 4 years. YOU have no idea what I'm talking about so just stop calling it scummy in every damn fucking game

Frozen Angel · Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:54 am

In post 882, MattP wrote:
In post 878, Frozen Angel wrote:Iso me ... I was somehow scumreading you.

Not totally scum but yes I was getting scum vibes from you ...

Then your story has changed. Your explicit wording was:

Null -> maybe TvT -> scum lean

Like it's insane I'm noticing this?

My iso is clear. I was pushing you for some points. I called your reaction weird ... implying I'm kind of scum reading you. When I said null that has a very slight scum read on. maybe TvT was said when I wanted to reanalyze and yes I reached a scum lean again...

Frozen Angel · Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:55 am

In post 884, AlwaysInnocent wrote:
MattP wrote:In real life noone gets to snap at you because it's their personality.
Don't push it. It's better not to cross that line and stick to the game.

I can't help myself about that. sorry if its not productive ...

Frozen Angel · Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:09 am

In post 888, MattP wrote:Why did you even consider this originally?

The way you two were arguing and others stance at the time made me feel that a TvT. I said I need to reanalyze you.

@AI thx. I don't like to be treated differently or anything and I like to have fun. I just explained my way of reacting is natural and its in my personality. that's the thing I can't change.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #903 (isolation #133) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:28 pm

In post 895, MattP wrote:I know its a pain but Im curious to know what it was that made you think we were TvT in the way we were arguing

mainly gut read. the tone looked like Garmr thinked he catched scum and your tone was like someone who is really trying to show he is not. and the way no one liked to interrupt your read made me think that was a TvT. that made me reanalize you as i said but I didn't found the enough reasons to town read you.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #915 (isolation #134) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:13 pm

AI seems death tunneling Mathilda, which is somehow weird . We need to see others opinions about others whats wrong about that?

pedit : hmm , so that makes him scum?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #916 (isolation #135) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:13 pm

or even scummy?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #930 (isolation #136) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:09 am

I know There were some *likely* inconsistencies in my reads so far. But I'm not scum. Its my play to improve my reads when the game is going forward. If there are any questions I'm here to answer them. I'm someone who says whatever comes to her mind. and I'm always so reactionary to every thing.

If anything concerns you I'm here to answer.

In post 921, AlwaysInnocent wrote:Albert B., the hammer is all yours.

(Or anyone else's.)

well I guess this been set up. I think I'm going to produce my read list and hammer

AI recent posts make me doubt about him. After reviewing his ISO I'm going to put him in null category.

FB is definitely scum. Scum Read him for whatever reason you want to if not my emotional reads and his scum slip.

ira is a town lean. although I'm not agreed with his case on dier and still think I can read all his posts from a town mindset I like his view about Dier and his recent posts.

Albert is likely town. I like his push on me. although he is wrong about me.

Mattp and davasez are people who I want to clear in next days depends on the night results and game progression. both seems town at this point.

Garmr got Too silent after Mattp claim. I'm kind of scared about my prior town read on him. going to have some doubts about him.

AJ game entranse seemed town. I have no clear reads about this slot , need to validate my read about him.

Aero and Lowell are null town lean. gonna try to read this spots more carefully.

And Mathilda, well as I said you played so carefull. His only scum read was Mattp. he stated he is ok with getting lynched or getting shot. His comparison between ABR and Radja in post 596 which made him voting ABR in post 608 is so easy to fake as scum. which give me a bad feeling about both Radja and ABR. Mathilda asked ABR "Who are you going to defend yourself when I flipped town ? " Like she is giving free town cred to ABR because of her lynch.

Then ABR unvotes mathilda To sleep. That made me think we must instalynch Mathilda at this point. If mathilda flips scum I'm going to 100% attack ABR tomorrow. If not AI and lowell seems a good place to doubt.

But All this aside. FB is definitely Scum! there is no way on earth I could've msread this slot's reaction ...

VOTE: Mathilda

Frozen Angel · Post Post #931 (isolation #137) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:09 am

hammer ^

Frozen Angel · Post Post #932 (isolation #138) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:10 am

In post 930, Frozen Angel wrote:If not AI and lowell seems a good place to doubt.

sorry meant AI and Ira

Frozen Angel · Post Post #934 (isolation #139) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:15 am

you read my point of suspicion at all?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #941 (isolation #140) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:46 am

Your questions on him and the way he wagoned you when he couldn't convince people that "I slipped" makes me think its not TvS

Frozen Angel · Post Post #944 (isolation #141) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:52 am

"this slip" ?!!! I just mistaken two names in my read list when I posted it first ......

Bloody hell wtf is wrong in this game...

Frozen Angel · Post Post #945 (isolation #142) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:54 am

things like this : "Who are you going to defend yourself when I flipped town ?"

and the thing he just advertise your lynch. not adding anything on it. As its been mentioned before I already saw him doing his buss thing on his partner in day 1.

Plus I must mention that actually I didn't dismiss the possibility of ABR scum / you town. but it seems fairly unlikely ... I said if you flip scum he is kind of obvscum in my view ...

Frozen Angel · Post Post #948 (isolation #143) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:56 am

And FB claiming scum is not scummy to you ...

Frozen Angel · Post Post #949 (isolation #144) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:56 am

And FB claiming scum is not scummy to you ...

Frozen Angel · Post Post #953 (isolation #145) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:01 am

are you fucking joking me... I just mistaken the one who defended you with someone else....

How is this shit can be considered as a slip? FB claimed scum!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #956 (isolation #146) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:11 am

my way of reacting is just my way of reacting...

Frozen Angel · Post Post #957 (isolation #147) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:11 am

don't like the explain it whole again.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #960 (isolation #148) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:32 am

don't want to explain that my way of reacting is just my personality

I'm really happy to talk about FB ...

Frozen Angel · Post Post #965 (isolation #149) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:53 am

Well I said I like to intract with you more. You were hellish active before matt claim but just suddenly deactivated afterward.

In post 962, Garmr wrote:@frozen I am happy talking about the dwelee fire slot.

well His reaction after my Vote is what I think He actually slipped there, It was like he got shocked - hanged how he could confess to such a thing .

whats your give on them?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #970 (isolation #150) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:00 am

Frozen Angel · Post Post #972 (isolation #151) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:02 am

bahhhhhh

Frozen Angel · Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:07 pm

Wtf was that shot matt ... why you didn't kill FB ...

In post 994, Firebringer wrote:
In post 992, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I'm still suspicious of AJ and Frozen. But Dave needs a serious look into.

Frozen is the most towniest town in townsville.

lol ?! scum likes to buddy me?!

Frozen Angel · Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:08 pm

In post 1005, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1000, Aj The Epic wrote:No. Bad fire.

Can you explain why Aero is town here?
I don't see it.

why you think he is scum?

Frozen Angel · Sat Jan 09, 2016 3:43 am

lol I forgot to vote in day 2

thx dav!

VOTE: FireBringer

Frozen Angel · Sat Jan 09, 2016 3:43 am

L2 I guess ...

Frozen Angel · Sat Jan 09, 2016 8:31 pm

FB

don't deny that your scum in this game

Its kind of obvious!

Frozen Angel · Sat Jan 09, 2016 8:33 pm

What are your current reads FB ? can you categorize them for me?

Frozen Angel · Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:42 pm

In post 1099, iraonavp wrote:
In post 1039, Frozen Angel wrote:Wtf was that shot matt ... why you didn't kill FB ...

I read your ISO and found mostly a scumslip cited as the reason for your push on Firebringer. Was there anything else you noticed on d1? I felt your push was a bit one-dimensional.

What about accusations of you scumslipping, does the fact that you are town-aligned and being accused of scumslipping not make you consider that Firebringer could be in a similar situation to you? I actually felt that the accusations of scumslipping leveled at you had more foundation than those levelled at Firebringer (not at first but after ABR clarified my misunderstanding).

Its about the way he responded to my vote. I felt that he is afraid.

but yeah I might wanna reconsider

UNVOTE: to avoid a quick hammer.

I need to reread game. later

Frozen Angel · Sun Jan 10, 2016 9:04 pm

I said for avoiding quick hammer

never said I'm less scumreading him .

In post 1137, iraonavp wrote:Are you perhaps frustrated at how you, an obviously town-aligned player, has been strung up so quickly and efficiently?
Are you perhaps eager to put the game behind you after you are brutally and unjustly mislynched?
Are you perhaps wanting to prove wrong all those arrogant fools who once doubted that you were town-aligned?

If he flips scum your my prime suspect. this is like your trying to drail his wagon

I didn't found the time to reread so please don't hammer anyone. I'll promise I'll do it tonight

Frozen Angel · Mon Jan 11, 2016 9:55 am

someone someday somewhere else said threatening for replacing out is ban worthy

checking this right now

Frozen Angel · Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:02 am

FB posts were all insincere ...

Frozen Angel · Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:15 am

I need to go right now.. another game kept me busy.

I'll post my readlist first time in the morning

Frozen Angel · Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:17 pm

My reads :

from scum to town ...

Firebringer : I think that was a real scum slip - he is acting too omgus'y today (but genuine?) I'm kind of a little bit paranoid about this ...
iraonavp : I hate his recent posts. he is playing with town mentality.

AlwaysInnocent : not sure what should I think of his hard try. he pushed a wagon on mathilda and now he is pushing a one on dire ... can be an opportunistic scum
Dierfire : hmm, his recent posts are getting better - putting him in null list
Aj The Epic : arrgh , I have trouble reading this slot

Garmr : gonna believe he is a townlean , Aero needs to confirm his claim though
Aeronaut : kind of null on him. his reaction against FB push seems genuine... but the way he voted FB is scaring me

Davesaz : his points seems genuine. I like his point of view to the game
Albert B. Rampage : I like him more than anyone else atm

Frozen Angel · Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:29 pm

Intent to hammer FB

you can claim

Frozen Angel · Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:53 pm

In post 1168, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1166, Frozen Angel wrote:Albert B. Rampage : I like him more than anyone else atm

????

That's...what the hell?

I like your day 2 posts ...

and I like your day 1 posts after rereading them

what the hell what?

Frozen Angel · Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:05 pm

In post 1015, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1014, Dierfire wrote:Why? I was thinking that the Miller claim becomes more believable when a Cop has flipped.

You've got a point.

VOTE: Firebringer

In post 1024, Albert B. Rampage wrote:How are we supposed to have an opinion on whether that person is scum if you don't tell us who it is?

In post 1059, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1056, Firebringer wrote:Diefire and Frozen are my strongest town reads.

In post 1170, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I hardly did anything day 2. What exactly did you like?

you interacted with FB , Aero and asked for reads. commented about Matp list (tried to find out the reason of the order) , talked about the miller claim , talked about the neighbour thing and even night cop and stuff

I liked your posts.

Frozen Angel · Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:10 am

AI there is no way I'm wrong about FB

I read that posts over and over

I imagined myself as him and wrote the posts. [I'm pretty good at this - You have no idea] That's a real scum slip.

His posts in day 2 are all wishy washy - the interactions with his slot don't make me think he is town a bit. This wagon need to end in a lynch.

so lets get over with this ... I don't want to let scum to derail this wagon

VOTE: FireBringer

Frozen Angel · Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:11 am

In post 1173, AlwaysInnocent wrote:We have 10+ days! Hammering now is anti-town.

whats that gonna change?

he had his time.

scum needs a lynch.

Frozen Angel · Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:38 am

In post 1182, AlwaysInnocent wrote:FA you are scum.

That's an awful vote. If FB flips town you are going to eat rope tomorrow.

yeah sure.

I won't let scum drail this wagon

Frozen Angel · Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:40 am

I stated intent

no one give a shit in past 12 hours?

people were here all before me

this wagon was in L1 for days

Frozen Angel · Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:41 am

yeah sure

Frozen Angel · Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:41 am

if he flipped scum?

are you scum for trying to drial the wagon ?

Frozen Angel · Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:43 am

THIS WAGON WAS SURELY HAPPENING

EVERYONE POSTED ENOUGH

Your try for just buying time is INCREDIBLY SCUMMY

Frozen Angel · Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:44 am

If he flipped scum

Your the main suspect of me buddy

Frozen Angel · Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:45 am

In post 1192, AlwaysInnocent wrote:Yeah. Derailing a Wagon in twilight. That is totally useful as scum.

NO you were draining it before my vote

That's the main reason I voted faster

Frozen Angel · Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:46 am

In post 1194, AlwaysInnocent wrote:If you are town, then you better hope that FB is scum.

I will be coming for you if not.

I will be coming for you either way, now that I'm more thinking about it

Frozen Angel · Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:52 am

Spoiler: AI masterful play with FB today

you were acting too wishy washy here

If he is scum your definitely scum for the way you wanted to buy time for him to make himself better and make a counterwagon
If by 2% chance he was town You were trying to distanse yourself from a town lynch and still were trying to show direfire as a suspect for later

Frozen Angel · Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:10 am

yeah

which is so real that if FB flip red I can't hold myself from voting you ...

Frozen Angel · Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:20 am

In post 1203, AlwaysInnocent wrote:My God. I have no words for the nonsense I am hearing.

You asked for it

pedit : w8 and see? calling me scum in twilight is the best you can do?

your trying hard to show my hammer like an opportunistic scum. well news : I think your the scum who wanted to stop that wagon - or distance himself from it

your already deep down in my list

Frozen Angel · Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:49 am

In post 1206, AlwaysInnocent wrote:I don't care where I am on your list. Your play is irrational anyway.

I hammered my biggest scum read

and suspecting the one who wanted to stop it

irrational ...

Frozen Angel · Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:55 am

In post 1208, AlwaysInnocent wrote:If you think that scum-AI would try to save scum-Firebringer (who does a horrible job of defending himself no matter his alignment), then you are terribly mistaken. It is more likely that if Firebringer is scum, that he is being bussed by, say, Dierfire.

I will think about that

still waiting for flip

Frozen Angel · Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:00 am

In post 1167, Frozen Angel wrote:Intent to hammer FB

you can claim

Frozen Angel · Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:00 am

basically you were intended since you reached L1 and It was obvious ...

Frozen Angel · Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:02 am

Frozen Angel · Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:03 am

And you wanna explain what was this fucking shit?!

Oh my god ...

Frozen Angel · Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:04 am

I mean your fucking play?

and why in earth you never claimed sooner?

Frozen Angel · Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:04 am

Frozen Angel · Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:10 am

arrrrrghhhhhh

god

Frozen Angel · Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:10 pm

SEEE

I knew he was scum

AI explain yourself - why you wanted to delay that lynch?

Frozen Angel · Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:12 pm

In post 1270, Aeronaut wrote:
In post 1269, Aj The Epic wrote:VOTE: Dierfire

Pissass sheep on me.

Please lynch this

I'm reviewing ...

Frozen Angel · Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:17 pm

You cheated!

You made 3 bump posts!

Bad RC!

Frozen Angel · Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:48 pm

In post 1063, Aj The Epic wrote:VOTE: Dierfire

I'll take it, I guess.

why you were voting him ?

Frozen Angel · Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:13 am

Ok so I reread the day 2 and FB wagon

I can finally see AI as town. sorry for the rampage thing at the end of last day . AI - unless if he isn't a katasha holder ninja [lol] is not FB's partner - based on the way he acted after the FB claim and before that.

About Aj and Direfire.I can see the cases against both of them and I'm agreed with the most part. i don't like Aj contradictions about Dire. and Dire was trying to derail mathilda wagon and then just showing that he is constantly reading Fire scum in day 2... [feels like bussing]

but There is another thing :

VOTE: Dave

He stated he read FB ISo and without explanation Jumped on the wagon. There is nothing town motivated in his ISO at all. I know he claimed miller and we had a half cop but I really think That will clear the possibility of him being scum and I really don't like the way people are clearing him up at this point.

Frozen Angel · Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:57 pm

Ok nice we caught another scum

VOTE: ABR

he is ascetic and he didn't claim it in the start.

He doesn't believe Miller claim - which make sense becuase he had another anti cop role

BUT the fact is he changed his mind about it?!

yeah he is definitely scum!

His iso is full contradictions!

Frozen Angel · Sat Jan 16, 2016 3:56 am

In post 1287, davesaz wrote:
In post 1285, Frozen Angel wrote:
<regarding me>
He stated he read FB ISo and without explanation Jumped on the wagon. There is nothing town motivated in his ISO at all. I know he claimed miller and we had a half cop but I really think That will clear the possibility of him being scum and I really don't like the way people are clearing him up at this point.

Evidently you forgot already that you immediately sheeped me with even less explanation?
Pot meet kettle.

I was telling FB is scum from day 1

I never *sheeped you* or anyone else.

I hammered my obvscum read...

Frozen Angel · Sat Jan 16, 2016 4:06 am

ABR role is as bad as a miller

look at his Iso and his contradictions when he was talking about dave and Taly and You will see what i mean

pedit : sure UNVOTE:

let me show you what I see

Frozen Angel · Sat Jan 16, 2016 4:35 am

In post 122, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Claiming miller day 1 is something I've done as scum before.

I'm inherently suspicious of Taly for it.

Plus Taly trying to crash the site also points to scum.

But there are more worthy lynches around.

In post 1015, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1014, Dierfire wrote:Why? I was thinking that the Miller claim becomes more believable when a Cop has flipped.

You've got a point.

VOTE: Firebringer

In post 1252, Albert B. Rampage wrote:daveasz is a miller and I believe his claim. Your resistance to the FB wagon makes me think you're totally out of sync with everyone else even though you're town. I don't think it's AJ or Frozen.

In post 1303, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I'm ascetic.

In post 1312, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1305, Aeronaut wrote:ABR, how many town ascetics have you ever seen?

I've seen town ascetics before.

this

whats different about ascetic from miller? and why should town have 2 roles against cop investigation? I think the way he attacked the miller calim before is completly legit but the way he started buddying him after a cop flip , is not like a town mindset

Frozen Angel · Sat Jan 16, 2016 4:36 am

plus his reaction to Aero is like "No fuck you! I'm town!"

why he didn't claim ascetic in day 1?

Frozen Angel · Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:42 am

RC , what are those numbers in your vote count. they don't make any sense ...

I'm sorry for this game. I don't have the time to check it tonight,

I will do it tomorrow - but I'm still feeling the ABR lynch.