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Looking over auction:
Any of the abilities that help scum should be claimed by town. NK, RB, Invest Immune should all be claimed if won. Failure to claim probably means won by scum.
Confirmable abilities that could hurt town (Extra Vote, Governor) should also be claimed.
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Cash calculations
In the first game, we could try to catch players lying by doing the math on the items they say they bid on and the money they should/could have left. However, I think Magua would have corrected for anything like this, so don't feel it would be as useful this game. If anyone can think of a way where doing so might be feasible and useful, I'd like to hear it.
Either way, those at L-1 for the lynch should show there "final accounting" if town. This will allow us to prevent scum claims of abilities and cash in the lategame.
Auctions
I was hoping for a total abilities list, but so far the only ones shown are the ones that have been up for auction. I don't know if that means these are ALL of the abilities in the game, or we will only see new ones as they appear.
Either way, a total of $348 was spent for all abilities. Out of a total of $2,000, that's not very much. I hope town invested the crap out of thier cash, in order to outbid scum later.
Setup Spec
20 player game would put scum at 5 under normal games.
Being as scum lack a NK here, I could see more than that. I do make the asumption that the 2 are equal, although I do realize that that is not necessarily true. And the last game had a SK that could nab abilities for free. I make no assumption that there is not another in here.
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In post 186, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Peregrine - Please link me to two completed scum games (preferably in Themes).
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In post 242, SlumberPartyBois wrote:No, MoI is being daykilled. Seanald is the NK.
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I saw where extra vote and Governor was claimed, so Sal and Gentlemen are probably town.
With Invest Immune, RB, and NK remaining unclaimed, they probably went to scum.
Kind of been ignoring the screaming, but will go back to see if Seanald is a good lynch.
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In post 429, Gentlemen Bastards wrote:Tazaro, yes, because he's bad at playing scum.
Now put your vote back on Seanald please.
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In post 437, StefanB wrote:I disagree that nightkill should claim.
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In post 439, Mehdi2277 wrote:Overall while it's helped some town reads only person I think it hurts a good amount right now to put as a scum read is Pitty.
Was going to ignore the whole town and scum PM statement from them, but with MoI's flip, it's a possible slip at this point.
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In post 463, Gentlemen Bastards wrote:
Just a heads up, the discussion and argument that Pitty 'Scumslipped' is pretty much nullified by the fact that her Post 261 shows that she understands where the QT suggestion part is in the role PM and thus likely received it.
@Gentelman & @ Patty-In order for me to accpet that version of the post, I'll need some pretty specific clarification on this bolded section.
In post 248, Pitty wrote:MoI was town (like he pretty much always is in my reads) until the whole QT thing came up. And yeah, I'll admit Mag wasn't very vocal about starting up a QT with us,but it says very clearly in both the town and scum PMthat one may ask for a private QT with the mod, so that makes me think perhaps MoI is TP and his PM doesn't say anything of the sort? I can't imagine that being the case but...
And this does not clarify it for me:In post 261, Pitty wrote:I'm going to clarify this now before someone goes "OMG! Piggy knows what the scum PM says?! Obvscum right there!"
I mean that by the fact that it's in it's own separate space, not part of the rest of the role. Meaning it's not an alignment indicator, it's a PM indicator. If all the town got the same PM (except our miller vig...?), and assuming all the scum got the same PM, the only one that wouldn't get something that everyone else has is TP, and if all MoI happens to be referring to is the sample PM on the first page (and I suppose scum could potentially not have that bit at the bottom as well, but that's really really unlikely, since that would give town a huge advantage and cause this whole mishap), well that would easily cause this slip up.
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In post 464, Mehdi2277 wrote:Kind of forgot that part. She was also the first to mention where the qt section was found in the pm which she wouldn't have known as scum at all so that drastically increases her chances of being town.
I strongly suspect that MoI knew by his last post he was screwed and ranted all over the scum QT at Magua, and scum had, at any and all points after post 231, an exact copy of the PM sent to town. So, it doesn't clear her at all for me.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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In post 469, Gentlemen Bastards wrote:In post 261, Pitty wrote:I'm going to clarify this now before someone goes "OMG! Piggy knows what the scum PM says?! Obvscum right there!" I mean that by the fact that it's in it's own separate space, not part of the rest of the role. Meaning it's not an alignment indicator, it's a PM indicator.If all the town got the same PM (except our miller vig...?), and assuming all the scum got the same PM, the only one that wouldn't get something that everyone else has is TP, and if all MoI happens to be referring to is the sample PM on the first page (and I suppose scum could potentially not have that bit at the bottom as well, but that's really really unlikely, since that would give town a huge advantage and cause this whole mishap), well that would easily cause this slip up.
I think the bolded part explains her post fairly well.
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In post 170, MagnaofIllusion wrote:So we have 7 pages overnight … let’s see what the game brings us.
Given what Slumber put together on Page 5 regarding Sean is where I am starting …
VOTE: Sean
In post 248, Pitty wrote:Oh boy >.< 10 pages already?
Seanald is an a-okay lynch with me, ThePartehBoyez did a pretty much word-for-word explanation of my read for me o.O
MoI was town (like he pretty much always is in my reads) until the whole QT thing came up. And yeah, I'll admit Mag wasn't very vocal about starting up a QT with us, but it says very clearly in both the town and scum PM that one may ask for a private QT with the mod, so that makes me think perhaps MoI is TP and his PM doesn't say anything of the sort? I can't imagine that being the case but...
The fact is, I'm confused over the whole debockle, and don't want him lynched or viggedtoday(tomorrow will be a whole other story).
Sala's point in 244 would be the main reason why I would be voting MoI, and I'm glad someone else caught that.
Long of the short of it, VOTE: Seanald
@Gentle-
Yes, but no Pitty posts until after MoI last post.
Same post structure for first post.
Same Seanald vote for first vote first post.
Calling MoI town while simultaneously bussing in preparation for his flip.
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In post 477, Mehdi2277 wrote:And pere what's your opinion on defender likely not knowing the existence of a qt either? (I think before it was explained town has a qt link so scum wouldn't have had it then either)
Grey vote defender. I have a feeling we can get 10 votes quick enough.
MoI called out Defender at 186 about his Seanald read, and Defender totally ignored it. That in addition to the soft push on the Stefan QT statement means he's probably scum.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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In post 488, Mehdi2277 wrote:P-edit2: Then vote defender.
OK.
Vote: Defender
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In post 468, Mehdi2277 wrote:So PV how else would she know where it's located? Scum don't have a town role pm based on how MoI slipped, so how would she know it's location outside of being town?
In post 471, PeregrineV wrote:In post 464, Mehdi2277 wrote:Kind of forgot that part. She was also the first to mention where the qt section was found in the pm which she wouldn't have known as scum at all so that drastically increases her chances of being town.
I strongly suspect that MoI knew by his last post he was screwed and ranted all over the scum QT at Magua, and scum had, at any and all points after post 231, an exact copy of the PM sent to town. So, it doesn't clear her at all for me.
As a matter of fact, her demonstration of pointing out it's exact location almost seems like an effort to prove her townliness.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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Night1 auction items have been posted.
Paraphrased for your reading pleasure.
Two counts of auction investigator (auction+player=did they get it?)
Targeted vote blocker (target+player=target can't vote player)
Two counts of banker (how much $$$?)
Three counts of Sixth Sense (if target dies, get to talk to them)
Vig shot
Four counts of untrackable and/or unwatchable Master of Ninjitsu Arts
Three counts sartor, who is really a fake investigation results giver
Two counts of follower (where did they go?, but not what they do)
Stalker (eyeball a player, who visits them?)I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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In post 660, guille2015 wrote:In post 658, PeregrineV wrote:Night1 auction items have been posted.
Paraphrased for your reading pleasure.
Two counts of auction investigator (auction+player=did they get it?)
Targeted vote blocker (target+player=target can't vote player)
Two counts of banker (how much $$$?)
Three counts of Sixth Sense (if target dies, get to talk to them)
Vig shot
Four counts of untrackable and/or unwatchable Master of Ninjitsu Arts
Three counts sartor, who is really a fake investigation results giver
Two counts of follower (where did they go?, but not what they do)
Stalker (eyeball a player, who visits them?)
Wait? where'd you get this?
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In post 662, greygnarl wrote:
Clarified because I'm awesome. and that was confusing as hell.In post 658, PeregrineV wrote:Night1 auction items have been posted.
Paraphrased for your reading pleasure.
Auction Investigator: Checks what that player won. x2
Blocker: Stops one player from voting another. x1
Banker: Checks to see how much money someone has. x2
Sixth Sense: Targets a player and if they die you get a QT with them. x3
Night-kill
MoNA: Cannot be tracked or watched x4
Sartor: Gives fake investigation results. x3
Follower: Tracker. x2
Stalker: Watcher
Does the MoNA stop people from being watched or does it stop watcher's from seeing you visit their target?
Is Sartor like Investigative Immunity?
pedit: He is the fucking Oracle
The MASTER gets to choose which of his nocturnal jaunts are invivisble to the Follower or Stalker.
Sartor seems more like framer, can pick the player and the "result" that an investigation on that player will return.
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@StefanB- If you want the NK, it would be preferable if you invested all of your money night1 and so will be bidding in the $200+ range. If you don't win it, then we at least want to make it cost prohibitive for scum to acquire it.
Banker tells how much money total exists that is not elsewhere.
Same rules apply. Town wins of scum abilities (vote blocker, MASTER, Framer) should be claimed immediately.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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In post 673, guille2015 wrote:Is the Vig kill the same as the night Kill?
Yes, since paraphrasing was required.
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In post 675, Gentlemen Bastards wrote:Pere, you should have claimed with these earlier, also oracle isn't up for auction tomorrow night?
No point to claiming earlier, not indicative of alignment, and I didn't have the auctions yet.
In post 675, Gentlemen Bastards wrote:We're filling this out today. Would have been better if Stefan didn't blatantly state he had full-funds and would be going for NK but at this point there's nothing to do about it. Once this list is completeno oneother than the person whose name is next to the item should be bidding on the item.
Auction Investigator: Checks what that player won. x2 -
Blocker: Stops one player from voting another. x1 -
Banker: Checks to see how much money someone has. x2 -
Sixth Sense: Targets a player and if they die you get a QT with them. x3 --
Night-kill -StefanB
MoNA: Cannot be tracked or watched x4 (Town-read)-
Sartor: Gives fake investigation results. x3 (Town-read) -
Follower: Tracker. x2 -
Stalker: Watcher -Gentlemen Bastards
Banker is not just one person
Someone should also advertise cop every night so it always shows up from now on. Last game once advertised you couldn't do it again, but I don't see that restriction here.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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In post 682, Gentlemen Bastards wrote:Auction Investigator: Checks what that player won. x2 -Tazaro
Blocker: Stops one player from voting another. x1 -
Banker: Checks to see how much money someone has. x2 -
Sixth Sense: Targets a player and if they die you get a QT with them. x3 --Salamance
Night-kill -StefanB
MoNA: Cannot be tracked or watched x4 (Town-read)-
Sartor: Gives fake investigation results. x3 (Town-read) -
Follower: Tracker. x2 -Voidedmafia
Stalker: Watcher -Gentlemen Bastards
Also everyone that isn't on the listat allshould be mass-investing.
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In post 685, Gentlemen Bastards wrote:Pere, the difference in advertising isn't 'unlimited' just that losing advertising bids funds carry over to the next night:
And if we have two people on Banker would that work then?
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In post 700, Eidolon wrote:oh sh!t.
ummmmmm. i guess i should mention this O.o
i just looked at my role pm more carefully. i cannot transfer invest or advertise.
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In post 710, guille2015 wrote:Giving multiple transfer to the same person should reduce the chances of Hitting scum, thus reducing flaw #1.
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I agree to the transaction.
Taz or Mehdi should be advertising the crap out of the power we want night3 (cop, Doc, oracle, Track, watch, whatever). The rest they can transfer between them.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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In post 795, guille2015 wrote:Should we advertize Neighborizer? Remember that Eid gets the power too, so advertizing for NK will give her the night kill.
She says she doesn't get that one.
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In post 984, Gentlemen Bastards wrote:In post 981, greygnarl wrote:We are not doing Phillamon.
Please for the love of god explain to me how I'm the only one seeing him being obvscum here and no one else is because it's getting frustrating. Also I don't think Magua 'adds up' to determine what the negative is but we did contemplate testing that tonight.
Brief readthrough of Phil ISO does look that damning. I don't like the fact he has only 7 posts when there is definitely a lot to talk about this game.
Town points for voting MoI, but loses points for first post+MoI vote all coming after MoI rant.
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In post 492, Phillammon wrote:
While I'm here, VOTE: D3f3nd3r too, as he does indeed seem pretty scummy. His attempting to buddy me earlier didn't help.
In post 992, Phillammon wrote:Unfortunately, what you appear to be advocating is lynching a different townie over another, and it's very close to getting up to $10 per player, which is almost certainly more than the original worth of said player. Unless you have actually caught scum for sure (which you haven't, as of yet), then speed may well be more important.
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In post 999, Phillammon wrote:Thanks, GB. Now kindly try pieces of my own meta, rather than projected self meta. Masons and Mafia I wasn't technically mafia, but I had daytalk and much the same as what you described occured. Meta is still in my wiki, still go get it. As I have said: I had 2 larges start at the same time, another one which I won't go into detail on but has drawn a lot of time, and I haven't had as much time to spend on any of this as I would have liked to. The lurking will stop happening as time goes on. That said, I'm unlikely to have any net connection at all for the weekend, so it won't improve then. I'll try to be useful for now, though.
PV: Because I was pointing out was GB was saying, given he's saying that D3f3nd3r is town. Besides which, d3f is looking reasonably townish now.
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@Stefan- I was expecting you to be above the $200 mark.
Advertising
Last Night I advertised $152 on cop. I don't get that back, but if I read the Advertize rules right, that goes towards cop being advertised tonight, regardless of the source of the funds to do so. This makes it slightly less irritating, but irritating nonetheless.
Neighborizor
Kind of a useless ability for town. Combined with the fact that the town plan called for cop, this has got to be a scum play. Looking at rule II.6., I think scum plans on using it to open up a joint QT of some sort so they can coordinate and transfer abilities. If you look at II.6.d and II.6.e., a neighbor QT makes the most sense, since they win together. The last game had mod-assisted communication. While this game probably doesn't have it based on mod notes of last game, neighborizor would be logical for them to get, and would be the only reason I could see for them to waste money on advertizing it.
As a followup to that, if they don't want to waste it, then they will need to a. Win it today, and b. neighborize scum on the opposite team.
More on this later in the day.
Oracle Results
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In post 1190, greygnarl wrote:Paraphrase as best you can. Put an asterisk next to it if we should know the role or it was sued last game so then somebody else can put it up as it's real name.
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Oracle- Abilities at Night 2 Auction
2 counts of Beancounter (First of the list)
1 count of unseen auctioning (Very similar to third of the list)
2 counts of Kevlar (Fourth of the list)
1 count of "The Perfect Gift", preset atWagerate, arrives immediately
2 counts of Agent 47 (Thirteenth of the list)
2 counts of As Avertised (Eighteenth of the list)
1 count of vig
1 count of Lynch sub-zero (Fourth from bottom)
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In post 793, SlumberPartyBois wrote:In post 791, PeregrineV wrote:Taz or Mehdi should be advertising the crap out of the power we want night3 (cop, Doc, oracle, Track, watch, whatever). The rest they can transfer between them.
Yep, agreed.
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In post 1200, Phillammon wrote:PV, do you mean 18th for As Advertised? Because 18 is neighbourizer. Molla: Nope, try again.
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In post 1202, greygnarl wrote:Accountant x2(Targeted): Choose another player. You will learn how much money this player possessed at the start of this Night.
Blind Bid x1(Day): For the Night, only you can see the current bid for auctions. To everyone else, it will be hidden. This will be announced in-thread.Other players will be informed if they are, or are not, the highest bidder as normal.
Bulletproof x1(Personal): You are protected from a single Night-kill targeting you this Night.
Hitman x2(Personal): If you activate “Night-kill” in the same night you activate “Hitman”, “Night-kill” will ignore one ability that would stop the kill from working (ie, ignore one roleblock or protection).
Neighborizer x2(Targeted): Choose another player. At the start of the next Day, a Neighbor Quicktopic will be provided that either of you may talk in at any time while alive. If you use this ability a subsequent time, you may choose to add the new player to an existing Neighbor Quicktopic (this will work even if you die that Night), or create a new, separate one.
Night-kill
Vote Freezer (Day): Choose another player who is voting, but is not voting for No Lynch. Their vote is now frozen and cannot be changed for the rest of the Day. This will be announced in-thread. This will not affect the lynch threshhold.
Vote Nullifier (Targeted): Choose another player. That player will not have a vote the following Day. This will be announced in-thread. The lynch threshold may go down as a result of activation of this power.
Is Blind Bid correct Peregrine? Also no-clue what that weird one is.
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In post 1196, PeregrineV wrote:1 count of "The Perfect Gift", preset at Wage rate, arrives immediately
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In post 1210, Phillammon wrote:It looks like it's a one shot ability that targets another player, instantly increasing their funds by the recipient's wage. Or possibly the senders' wage. That a decent guess?
There's only one Wage.
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In post 1212, Mehdi2277 wrote:Considering scum wanted neigborizer I don't think they have it so I don't think we should be claiming lack of it. If everyone disagrees sure, but at the moment I think it'll just out a pr likely with town.
Anyone is a PR through the Auction process, and "outing" neighborizor with cop and doc floating around is perfectly acceptable. Given that scum WANT neighborizor, knowing and controlling it is more important.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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In post 1223, Mehdi2277 wrote:Originally wasn't the plan for the neighborizer target either GB or SDB? If they target SDB (assuming they're town and targeted GB before) then SDB can just say tomorrow whether he thinks they're town or not. Doesn't out them but lets them be controlled.
Sure, but this plan was before we knew scum wanted neighborizer. Now that we know that is an important ability to them, we need to lock it down.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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In post 1228, Phillammon wrote:In post 1221, PeregrineV wrote:In post 1210, Phillammon wrote:It looks like it's a one shot ability that targets another player, instantly increasing their funds by the recipient's wage. Or possibly the senders' wage. That a decent guess?
There's only one Wage.
but yes.
We already had molla claim no wage, so I challenge that.
So, an ability that does nothing. How does that make sense?I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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In post 1230, Mehdi2277 wrote:I'm assuming it's the common wage of 50. So spend a dollar to be able to transfer 50. That sound closer?
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In post 1231, Phillammon wrote:In post 1229, PeregrineV wrote:In post 1228, Phillammon wrote:In post 1221, PeregrineV wrote:In post 1210, Phillammon wrote:It looks like it's a one shot ability that targets another player, instantly increasing their funds by the recipient's wage. Or possibly the senders' wage. That a decent guess?
There's only one Wage.
but yes.
We already had molla claim no wage, so I challenge that.
So, an ability that does nothing. How does that make sense?
An ability that circumstantially does nothing, or possibly depending on set up more or less? That sounds feasible to me...
Really? Looking at any of the other abilities, do they seem role dependent like you are saying this one is?I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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In post 1336, StefanB wrote:Peregrine
About Blind Bind: Can the one who wins it, choose to not use it, or is it compulsive?
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This day is going on until everybody posts, esp. Seanald. But day started 43 hours ago, so prods not due until 29 hours. However, in this game where time=money, people need to bookmark or whatever and get in here.
GreyICE 2012-11-02 18:27:23 5 days 23 hours 62
Seanald 2012-11-02 17:09:44 6 days 0 hours 19
Eidolon 2012-11-02 13:58:02 6 days 3 hours 21
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In post 1640, callforjudgement wrote:@PeregrineV: Any reads other than Phillamon and Pitty? I just took a break from catching up the game as a whole to read your ISO, there's hardly any reads on people at all, and I'd like to know what you're thinking about the day game, rather than the night game.
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Then,In post 793, SlumberPartyBois wrote:In post 791, PeregrineV wrote:Taz or Mehdi should be advertising the crap out of the power we want night3 (cop, Doc, oracle, Track, watch, whatever). The rest they can transfer between them.
Yep, agreed.
But somehow that got changed in the final draft.In post 1025, Mehdi2277 wrote:Current (two more claims needed)
Player Amount that will be transferred Voided 186 Guille 209 Greyice 180 Elmo Pitty 209 Philla 190 Sean 103
Advertiser for Cop: Advertises cop - Peregine
Auction Investigator: Checks what that player won. x2 - Tazaro
Blocker: Stops one player from voting another. x1 - Gentlemen Bastards
Sixth Sense: Targets a player and if they die you get a QT with them. x3 -- Salamance
Night-kill - StefanB
MoNA: Cannot be tracked or watched x4 (Town-read)- Tammy
Sartor: Gives fake investigation results. x3 (Town-read) - Greygnarl
Follower: Tracker. x2 - Bois
Stalker: Watcher - Gentlemen Bastards
TRANSFER FROM _____ TO ______:
Pitty to Stephan
Seanald to Gentlemen Bastard
Guille to SlumberPartyBois
Philammon to Salamence
Elmo to Tammy
Voided to Peregrine
GreyICE to greygnarl
PLAYERS NOT DOING ANY TRANSFERS:
Eidolin
BBmolla
Tazaro
Mehdi
Only piece missing is elmo's.
Eidolin flaked.
BBMolla-broke Bum
Tazaro-In post 1198, Tazaro wrote:I gave an amount of money to Mehdi.
Mehdi-In post 1212, Mehdi2277 wrote:There's lack of reason to hide my money actions. I transferred all of my money to GB (I realize the effect on the plan, but at the same time the reasoning behind no two give to the same person was it meant looking at two people so just trusting me would have worked).
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In post 1594, Mehdi2277 wrote:Or the fact I'm a neighborizer and had planned to target GB way before the plan originated and I already explained me giving money to him.
So you not only transferred all of your money to Gentleman, he was also your neighbor target? All your eggs in one basket seems counterintuitive, since if he was so townie he would be targeted for the NK, why not neighbor Slumber and transfer Genteleman, or vice versa?
And why not transfer to Tazaro as originally planned?
In post 1563, Mehdi2277 wrote:He has 0 money right now after transferring all of it. I think someone who's close to confirmed town (well confirmed to have protected GB or he couldn't have possibly known his being role blocked) should have more then that.
Actually, that would be Voided's claim. You arguing "he needs cash, he's broke" seems to be coming as if you think it is reality.
Vote: Medhi
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In post 1664, Mehdi2277 wrote:How did tazaro break plan? He was supposed to either give to me or advertise and you were doing that more at the time. I explained my plan break.
If this is to me, Tazaro didn't break plan. That's my point. Apparently no one broke plan except you.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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In post 1668, Mehdi2277 wrote:
Voided is almost definitely town. He's confirmed to have protected GB (it's nearly impossible to know being RB other wise). I'll assume his claim is true.
Slumber claimed RBIn post 534, SlumberPartyBois wrote:We are the Roleblocker
Here's what needs to happen:
Every single player has to say if they are or are not the NKer.
Doctor50/50 protect us/GB if the NKer does not come forward.MUST
If voided thought Matt was town, then why not say he's the doc?
Instead, post-Gentelman death:In post 1158, Voidedmafia wrote:
100% false.
On that note, scum (either team) have the RB, most definitely.
Also, I transferred my money to Peregrine as ordered.
In post 1668, Mehdi2277 wrote:I expected GB to be protected (he was the obvious protection to me). And neighborizing him would also let me see what happens with the money I transferred.
I don't get this. You wanted to ask him in the QT what he's doing with your money?
In post 1668, Mehdi2277 wrote:PV I repeatedly said I had something I specifically wanted to do. Originally I was supposed to be given money but rejected it. I think it was obvious I wasn't planning to do something normal. Complaining about it now when I made obvious there was something I wanted to do is weak.
So you didn't want to be sent any money because you were neighborizing night1?
Explain the logic behind this please.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.