Open 779: Pick Your Power X/Y Game Over!

Datisi · Post Post #27 (isolation #0) » Fri May 15, 2020 1:02 am

VOTE: aldus
have you finally rolled scum you scumfuck?

In post 13, skitter30 wrote:I also think its low-key unlikely for there to be more than 1 scum in the 1's and 2's combined

skitter scum with 2 other people in 1's and 2's confirmed

Datisi · Post Post #33 (isolation #1) » Fri May 15, 2020 1:16 am

In post 30, DonCorleone wrote:@datisi, I strongly suspect that if skitter is scum that that statement was made as pure WIFOM. I personally disagree with her lowkey idea (I don't know why it's unlikely that scum would choose in both 1 and 2?) but agree that it's unlikely 2 scum would have picked the same number.

you'll notice i wasn't even voting skit. that claim had 0% seriousness in it. i know i missed page 1, but i want to get in on the memeing in early game.

fark, can you tell us why you think top 4 are Town?

Datisi · Post Post #60 (isolation #2) » Fri May 15, 2020 4:11 am

bold of you to assume i was thinking

Datisi · Post Post #64 (isolation #3) » Fri May 15, 2020 4:16 am

don, has your main been revealed yet?

Datisi · Post Post #68 (isolation #4) » Fri May 15, 2020 4:20 am

i think your claims are definitely odd, i have no clue where they're coming from, and you're getting annoying, but knowing you i don't necessarily think it's scum. there, like the attention?

pedit: @fark

Datisi · Post Post #89 (isolation #5) » Fri May 15, 2020 5:48 am

In post 88, Farkset wrote:
In post 60, Datisi wrote:bold of you to assume i was thinking
Aren't you the mastermind of setups theories?

...no? since when?

Datisi · Post Post #92 (isolation #6) » Fri May 15, 2020 5:51 am

i once placed second in a setup monthly challenge yeah

mastermind of setup theories right here

Datisi · Post Post #113 (isolation #7) » Fri May 15, 2020 8:00 am

In post 112, Alduskkel wrote:
In post 27, Datisi wrote:VOTE: aldus
have you finally rolled scum you scumfuck?
no, the suffering continues. hbu

same

hot take: fark's hinting at "top three are Town can't say why" and "skit you know what i do in games" is not helpful for anyone and is making the game harder to read so can you not

Datisi · Post Post #118 (isolation #8) » Fri May 15, 2020 8:10 am

i lowkey think skit is towny even tho i know she's 100% able to fake this all so far as scum

Datisi · Post Post #131 (isolation #9) » Fri May 15, 2020 8:40 am

i'm gonna assume hectic is one of the hydra heads in melody and i know he can read drew so

VOTE: drew

Datisi · Post Post #133 (isolation #10) » Fri May 15, 2020 8:43 am

partly "i assume hectic is behind every alt/stealth hydra", partly 121 and 129 feeling like hectic-y posts

Datisi · Post Post #138 (isolation #11) » Fri May 15, 2020 9:00 am

In post 134, Alduskkel wrote:so would you still vote drew if you knew hectic wasn't in melody

i dunno, maybe. fark's take was good enough to jump on regardless, but until melody pointed out it was his

only

post i kinda didn't notice that, and that makes it even better vote imo. the hectic bit is more of a flex for post-game if i'm right.

Datisi · Post Post #145 (isolation #12) » Fri May 15, 2020 10:32 am

hot take: aldus reads like he actually cares about this game so he's scum

also drdrew is one of his partners

i may or may not be drinking

if you tell me your third partner i'll lynch you last aldus

Datisi · Post Post #147 (isolation #13) » Fri May 15, 2020 10:34 am

i said drdrew

Datisi · Post Post #153 (isolation #14) » Fri May 15, 2020 11:14 am

fake news, you haven't claimed a daycop clear on scum yet, can't be TSE

Datisi · Post Post #188 (isolation #15) » Sat May 16, 2020 12:06 am

In post 166, JacksonVirgo wrote:How am I not null when I haven't even posted at this time yet?

if i hadn't recently seen scum act Completely Clueless in a game i'd give this a townlean, but i won't

~

In post 168, Melody wrote:We actually meant to submit 1 btw, but I hit the key twice and didn't notice in time for the EBWOP.

am i overthinking this or is this supposed to be a meme scumclaim? because town sends numbers in by PM, not PT?

~

In post 179, DoctorPepper wrote:
In post 131, Datisi wrote:i'm gonna assume hectic is one of the hydra heads in melody and i know he can read drew so

VOTE: drew
You know I got the same vibe here

But I disagree with the vote.

Gut tells me you and Aldus are town so far.

you liked the vibe of what exactly? also why is drdrew town? why is melody in your possible scumpool?

thinking back, us disagreeing on Literally Everything might mean we're TvT again lol

~

i see brass is thinking kinda similarly to me and i'm willing to give vague +townpoints there even tho i know it's probably not worth them because this game seems very slow for some reason

Datisi · Post Post #191 (isolation #16) » Sat May 16, 2020 2:49 am

which readjust post do you mean? also what do you make on my drew's vote then?

Datisi · Post Post #197 (isolation #17) » Sat May 16, 2020 3:25 am

alim, i think skitt was saying there's "not more than one scum in that pool", not that there's "one scum in that pool".

Datisi · Post Post #208 (isolation #18) » Sat May 16, 2020 4:20 am

In post 206, DonCorleone wrote:
In post 136, Melody wrote:I like Datisi begrudgingly townleaning skitter lol
can we have a chat about this? why do you like it?

I'm actually coming around to Datisi being scum here, I think. Doesn't look like he's very interested in solving the game, just shitposting and hedging quite a lot with stuff like "lowkey think skitt is towny but she could fake this all" and "assuming hectic is a head of melody so I'll sheep there". It's like he's avoiding responsibility for what he's saying, looking in ISO it's the same thing again where he says that aldus may be scum but talks about how he's drinking in the same post.

And then again there's more where he says how he would called jacksonvirgo townie but won't because he'd seen "scum act completely clueless" elsewhere.

Datisi, what are your actual reads on people? I feel like you're shading a lot but kind of avoiding committing or taking responsiblilty whenever you suggest something is off

you're right i'm not very interested in solving because i'm still in the "early stage waiting everyone to post" mode, which i get is weird because i'm aware everyone has posted, but i feel like i don't have enough to work with. the main things happening so far are the don/dunn spat (which i think is tvt but doesn't give me an opportunity to actually contribute anything or futher other reads) and the fark/drdrew spat which i've already given my opinion on.

i'm admiting to being aware my skitter read could be complete bullshit because i had a feeling someone was gonna say "skitter is good as scum she can fake that datisi what are you doing are you pocketing skitter" like i get that she's able to fake it. i'm townleaning her anyway.

{skitt, don, dunn, melody, pepper, farkset}
{jackson, cat, clemency, brass} - null
{drdrew, aldus}

these would be my ~feels~ so far but none of them are very strong because the game is what it is.

Spoiler:

Datisi · Post Post #211 (isolation #19) » Sat May 16, 2020 4:22 am

In post 208, Datisi wrote:{skitt, don, dunn, melody, pepper, farkset}
{jackson, cat, clemency, brass} - null
{drdrew, aldus, alim*}

missed alim, my bad.

Datisi · Post Post #214 (isolation #20) » Sat May 16, 2020 4:31 am

In post 213, alimdia wrote:
In post 197, Datisi wrote:alim, i think skitt was saying there's "not more than one scum in that pool", not that there's "one scum in that pool".
idunno, him not voting one of the other people in the pool after mentioning it (Even for rvs) is a bit weird

i don't think it's weird she didn't vote them there.

feels on other players?

Datisi · Post Post #218 (isolation #21) » Sat May 16, 2020 5:11 am

In post 216, DonCorleone wrote:urgh, I don't know entirely how I feel about this. I guess this is reasonable as a position to take, but I'd like to see more. I don't really feel like you address my issue of you not taking stances when you have been proffering stuff, except for explaining skitter, but at least you've committed to a reads list that I don't hate.

i don't know what proffering means

In post 216, DonCorleone wrote:I don't think you do explain what your stance is on fark/drew btw, other than that you're sheeping melody on them based on an assumption that I don't think is a great idea. I could see melody having hectic as a head but I wouldn't say I'm confident enough it's him to want to sheep them.

does this not count as explaining my stance on drew
i think fark can be annoying but i'm liking they're actually tring to move things along

In post 138, Datisi wrote:
In post 134, Alduskkel wrote:so would you still vote drew if you knew hectic wasn't in melody
i dunno, maybe. fark's take was good enough to jump on regardless, but until melody pointed out it was his
only
post i kinda didn't notice that, and that makes it even better vote imo. the hectic bit is more of a flex for post-game if i'm right.

In post 216, DonCorleone wrote:I don't understand what's separating your null line from your more scumread line? I think mine would go more like

null is like people who i have noticed exist but have genuinely no pings one way or the other
scumreads are like people that i have seen a post or two that i Don't Like so they're not Null they're Scumlean

also make no mistake
just ebcause i say i'm drubk that doesn't mean i'm not 100% standing behind my stances
once i got drunk and deadass solved a 13p game while it was in like n2
drunktisi is a better town player than sobertisi

Spoiler:

Datisi · Post Post #227 (isolation #22) » Sat May 16, 2020 10:47 am

In post 223, Alduskkel wrote:Also if Datisi paranoia scumreads me for "caring too much" about this game then I can townread Datisi for not "caring enough" because I know we both wanted to roll scum

are you actually townreading me for that

In post 225, Farkset wrote:
In post 223, Alduskkel wrote:
In post 219, Farkset wrote:Unless datisi is known for caring about games more as scum than as town, it's a townlean for me.
Wait what? You've somehow reached the same conclusion as me via the exact opposite logic?
Well, my only experience with Datisi shows him caring waaaaay less than he's doing in this game, and he was town

-Farkran

keep in mind that that game is not exactly representative becuase (1) i hate large games (2) i (in vast majority of cases) dislike hydraing and (3) i was told that game wouldn't be actual mafia but would instead be shitposting and minigames, and was displeasantly surprised when i realized that was a fucking lie, which killed my motivation even further.

Datisi · Post Post #229 (isolation #23) » Sat May 16, 2020 10:51 am

i don't wanna scumread aldus

his avatar is so happy

also i've incorrectly scumread him in both games we played together and that is sad

Datisi · Post Post #231 (isolation #24) » Sat May 16, 2020 11:02 am

not really no

you're not even that strong of a scumread, the issue is there's so many slots by whom i don't remember a single thing they've posted which is annoying me much more than anything

Datisi · Post Post #234 (isolation #25) » Sat May 16, 2020 11:07 am

In post 232, Melody wrote:Datisi mmm this one's kinda unsure. I was thinking of Datisi as a townlean cause of his townreads being pretty good, I like that he included skitter in them rather than just writing off skitter as null. he realizes skitts is a good scum player, but townreads her anyway. Fark's content-indicative theory on Datisi im willing to sheep for now as well. (Also Pedit I see datisi arguing against the motivation-indictative tell which also makes me feel better about Datisi being town)

why is this one unsure if everything you listed about me was positive?

Datisi · Post Post #349 (isolation #26) » Sat May 16, 2020 11:52 pm

@alimdia re 338, wasn't the "need to find another vote" saying they want to vote someone besides Drew?

@jackson, do you still think Melody is pocketing you even after they explained their thought process?

VOTE: clemency

Datisi · Post Post #351 (isolation #27) » Sun May 17, 2020 12:36 am

did i miss anything or is it solely the "townleaning you for picking a random number"?

Datisi · Post Post #357 (isolation #28) » Sun May 17, 2020 6:22 am

In post 356, skitter30 wrote:
In post 349, Datisi wrote:@alimdia re 338, wasn't the "need to find another vote" saying they want to vote someone besides Drew?

@jackson, do you still think Melody is pocketing you even after they explained their thought process?

VOTE: clemency
why clemency?

i dunno. i realized i don't feel ~strongly~ about almost any vote, and that i'm mentally still in early-game-waiting-for-people-to-post. figured this guy's probably part of the reason why.

my drew vote feels like a waste, i'm still waiting on jackson's reply and would kinda want to jam with them more before i decide if i wanna vote there, and i feel like voting alimdia but my read rate on him is a flat 0% so i feel like that probably makes him town so

here we are

Datisi · Post Post #359 (isolation #29) » Sun May 17, 2020 6:34 am

yes, we played twice
first in micro 900 where he was prob my strongest scumread (for similar "leaps in logic") and if scum didn't kill him the day before lylo that probably would've cost us the game
second time was when i was townreading him in guns and roses 3 and i don't like talking about guns and roses 3

no wait we also played in krazy's post-apoc upick
yeah i wasn't townreading him there

tl;dr yeah i can't read alimdia

Datisi · Post Post #361 (isolation #30) » Sun May 17, 2020 6:40 am

eh, sure.

VOTE: catscratchfever

Datisi · Post Post #371 (isolation #31) » Sun May 17, 2020 1:15 pm

In post 370, Alduskkel wrote:srsly tho, why CSF. this just seems so random

i still have a feeling only like half the people are actually playing so i'm basically that guy with a stick poking and saying "do something"

aldus you've played in autumnal do you have feels on alimdia yet

Datisi · Post Post #374 (isolation #32) » Sun May 17, 2020 1:42 pm

In post 139, skitter30 wrote:so far i have gut-towns on:
melody
, don, dunn, and maybe datisi

Datisi · Post Post #377 (isolation #33) » Sun May 17, 2020 1:53 pm

wow such inconsistency skitter did you roll scum again

i think i gotta give this game a reread or something because i'm still in the early shitpost whatever mode

pedit: lul huh

Datisi · Post Post #407 (isolation #34) » Mon May 18, 2020 2:15 am

In post 397, Farkset wrote:Also i don't see the case against Cat Fever

In post 397, Farkset wrote:Half of the playerlist disappeared over the weekend.

you answered your own question

In post 406, skitter30 wrote:
In post 402, Farkset wrote:
In post 391, skitter30 wrote:why are you guys townleaning me again?
Do you always ask that? Last time we played you were also picky about it.
~ker
scum have a tendency to throw a loltownread on me cuz it's easier than pushing me, so if i feel like someone's reason for townrading me is vague or bad i'll try to find out more about it

skit what do you think about my townread on you?

Datisi · Post Post #410 (isolation #35) » Mon May 18, 2020 3:06 am

oh sorry

what i meant to say is that this game is goddamn dead with like 5-6 people consistently posting and maybe 2 people sometimes saying something and for everyone else i don't remeber a single thing they did

and cat is in the everyone else

my way of saying "i have a hard time caring about this game if nobody else does either", i thought it would be implied with my earlier clemency vote

in hindsight it Might have not been as clear as i thought in my head

Datisi · Post Post #416 (isolation #36) » Mon May 18, 2020 4:26 am

DoctorPepper wrote:
In post 361, Datisi wrote:eh, sure.

VOTE: catscratchfever
Dats, you seem to be kinda passive and sheepy this game

That was so unlike you in the last Micro we played

take my annoyance with QQ that game and multiply it sevenfold

Datisi · Post Post #424 (isolation #37) » Mon May 18, 2020 4:47 am

where did skitter vote cat because of setup spec?

yeah i could push any 6 slots for inactivity that's the problem
my care for this game is very low if literally half the game isn't playing
i don't think i'll get much ot of pushing "active" people when half the thread isn't there to react to it

Datisi · Post Post #428 (isolation #38) » Mon May 18, 2020 4:50 am

also what am i exactly "taking an advantage of"? like what is scumtisi trying to accomplish there

pedit: lmao what

Datisi · Post Post #435 (isolation #39) » Mon May 18, 2020 4:56 am

i never said i'm contributing to town
like i'm not pretending to be helpful
i'm openly saying this game fucking sucks and i don't want to play it while 6 slots are dead

pedit: then you scumread skitter too no?

Datisi · Post Post #436 (isolation #40) » Mon May 18, 2020 4:57 am

chain of command had 1 out of 9 empty slots and also my muse Ico was playing

Datisi · Post Post #442 (isolation #41) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:02 am

In post 438, DoctorPepper wrote:
In post 435, Datisi wrote:i never said i'm contributing to town
like i'm not pretending to be helpful
i'm openly saying this game fucking sucks and i don't want to play it while 6 slots are dead

pedit: then you scumread skitter too no?
Probing that posibility via post 432. Initially though Skitter's thought process was Towny (Also because she's defending Aldus who I'm gut reading as town) but yeah, I find CSF votes weird af

you initially thought i was town too so?

Datisi · Post Post #445 (isolation #42) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:05 am

this might or might not be omgus i'll decide later

VOTE: pepper

there my vote is on an active person am i locktown now?

Datisi · Post Post #450 (isolation #43) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:08 am

In post 447, DoctorPepper wrote:
In post 445, Datisi wrote:
this might or might not be omgus i'll decide later

VOTE: pepper

there my vote is on an active person am i locktown now?
This is a weird push and I kinda feel like you're not really scum reading me, you just dislike that I'm scum reading you

yeah no shit sherlock

Datisi · Post Post #458 (isolation #44) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:13 am

no, you just made me annoyed that i'm playing it

why is fark scum what did i miss

pedit: the first line was @pepper

ppedit: okay thanks

Datisi · Post Post #463 (isolation #45) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:19 am

In post 460, DoctorPepper wrote:^ you're not making me feel better about your slot Dats. I mean you asked for more activity and it's here

no i didn't

i asked for more activity from dead slots
skitter and farkset have been plenty active

Datisi · Post Post #467 (isolation #46) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:21 am

you were half-dead but your only contribution was a shitpush on me pretending to be productive so that nullified the success you've had in making skitter and farkset talk

pedit: @pepper

Datisi · Post Post #471 (isolation #47) » Mon May 18, 2020 5:26 am

Datisi · Post Post #532 (isolation #48) » Mon May 18, 2020 10:52 am

wait, when did i move to null? weren't you townreading me before?

Datisi · Post Post #541 (isolation #49) » Mon May 18, 2020 11:49 am

In post 533, Melody wrote:
In post 392, Alduskkel wrote:
In post 388, Melody wrote:What do you find so strange about this, Aldu? By "pending further evaluation" it means I saw something I disliked and questioned you about it. How else would you expect me to use my vote rather than to pressure slots I'm unsure about? Especially since I was voting Drew who I started changing my mind on.

~Dawn
I thought you'd wait for me to respond/post more so you could do the further evaluation and then decide whether or not to vote me.

Like, I'd expect town to either wait to vote me and/or after voting me not move the vote elsewhere so soon.
Talk about this more in particular, Aldu. I want to know why you're getting so hung up over that vote on you.

>We were voting for Drew, I started thinking he was town. Said I needed a new vote.
>I find something you did I disliked, question you on it.
>Someone agrees with me.
>I vote for you, using my vote as pressure.

What's so strange about this?

~Dawn

isn't aldus talking about you removing the vote before he even posted, not about you voting for him in the first place?

Datisi · Post Post #603 (isolation #50) » Mon May 18, 2020 11:37 pm

hiiii dragon

Datisi · Post Post #606 (isolation #51) » Tue May 19, 2020 12:01 am

yeah your slot claimed scum is that true

Datisi · Post Post #622 (isolation #52) » Tue May 19, 2020 4:12 am

In post 620, Farkset wrote:why does aldus only have 3 votes when nobody is townreading him

because half the game isn't even playing

i doubt you can get to these kinda conclusions reliably in a gamestate like this?

Datisi · Post Post #624 (isolation #53) » Tue May 19, 2020 4:16 am

if aldus were scum, his scumpartners would agree with skitter that he's town? that's what she said, no?

Datisi · Post Post #629 (isolation #54) » Tue May 19, 2020 4:24 am

i don't know? i'm saying that's skitter's reasoning for aldus town. i didn't say anything about agreeing or disagreeing. i don't want to lynch either of them today, that's as deep as i thought about it.

pedit: @fark

Datisi · Post Post #632 (isolation #55) » Tue May 19, 2020 4:29 am

i'm completely checked out of this game, fark, gimme a break. pepper was annoying me because i feel like his push on "datisi you're not playing the same as in this one game that we played together in which you were town" is genuinely bullshit but i get that that maybe comes from town. maybe. my vote feels fine there atm.

what even are the highest wagons right now?

Datisi · Post Post #638 (isolation #56) » Tue May 19, 2020 4:40 am

i guess out of the three i'd go melody? i'm not exactly Feeling It though. sorry to parrot you, skit.

Datisi · Post Post #654 (isolation #57) » Tue May 19, 2020 5:36 am

In post 651, DonCorleone wrote:datisi, am I right in thinking you have some history with Iconeum? how do you read his entrance?

oh, we have a LOT of history, probably about 10 or so games. as much as i wanna say it's town (because i want to be town with ico lol), it's probably NAI.

btw, correction for earlier: aldus said he's townreading me for not caring, not scumreading.

Datisi · Post Post #752 (isolation #58) » Wed May 20, 2020 1:10 am

hello

VOTE: dr drew

Datisi · Post Post #759 (isolation #59) » Wed May 20, 2020 3:05 am

i kinda like aldus better now, i'm vibin with skit's reasoning there, and i don't remember thinking "oh that's a good post" on any of drew's posts so eh

pedit: @fark

Datisi · Post Post #777 (isolation #60) » Wed May 20, 2020 5:12 am

In post 775, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:Doctor Drew (4) - Iconeum, Skitter30, Datisi,
Farkset

Alduskkel (5) - Melody, Cat Scratch Fever,
Farkset
, Doctor Drew, Brassherald

damn fark, why didn't you claim your doublevoter?

pedit: goddammit fark ruining my joke

Datisi · Post Post #856 (isolation #61) » Thu May 21, 2020 6:13 am

i have been

s u m m o n e d

Datisi · Post Post #858 (isolation #62) » Thu May 21, 2020 6:16 am

if you are expecting any intelligent thought from me i have to disappoint because i have been skimming the last few pages tho i do agree we probably should not be claiming unnecessarily

pedit: oh ye he claimed neighborizer right

is that more likely to come from town or scum? i don't care toooo much for losing a neighborizer tbh but

i also don't like aldus votes and am willing to vote elsewhere for a couterwagom if necessary

Datisi · Post Post #861 (isolation #63) » Thu May 21, 2020 6:20 am

i can do that

who do you want murder?

Datisi · Post Post #867 (isolation #64) » Thu May 21, 2020 6:41 am

quite the opposite, scumtisi would read it, while towntisi here saw walls and just skimmed past because i know i can just ask someone to give me a tldr of "should i unvote y/n"

VOTE: melody

uhhh if anyone has a case on why i should vote someone that's under 150 words i might read it

Datisi · Post Post #870 (isolation #65) » Thu May 21, 2020 6:51 am

In post 862, skitter30 wrote:also i guess just to note that i kinda feel like town!you would have maybe seen all that discussion about the neighborizer claim probably coming from town and have changed your vote out of your own violation

actually i'm gonna ask

what gave you that impression?

Datisi · Post Post #872 (isolation #66) » Thu May 21, 2020 6:56 am

hmm

didn't you earlier say that me not caring (or however it was phrased) about this game was low-key townie? how's this different to that before?

Datisi · Post Post #874 (isolation #67) » Thu May 21, 2020 7:04 am

In post 633, skitter30 wrote:i feel like dat's annoyance is low-key townie for him

i was thinking of this but i see now i misremembered what this was a reply to

yeah i am following the game as in reading the shorter posts

usually i'm all for mechtalk but for some reason the discussion about the neighborizer didn't interest me one bit

Datisi · Post Post #876 (isolation #68) » Thu May 21, 2020 7:15 am

you've modded for scum me tho

i mean i could tell you that scumtisi would actively pretend to give a shit about the game but i know self-meta is ehh

Datisi · Post Post #880 (isolation #69) » Thu May 21, 2020 7:24 am

I just lost a post fk me

In post 878, skitter30 wrote:do you have any reads tho that you'd like to share?

not really but

don't wanna lynch in aldus/skit/ico/alim/dc/i guess also drew/fark

that's about as "reads" as i can do

Datisi · Post Post #882 (isolation #70) » Thu May 21, 2020 7:28 am

it feels like a few years ago but i think i did

Datisi · Post Post #947 (isolation #71) » Fri May 22, 2020 12:16 am

so (1) my vote there doesn't count? and (2) what is there to talk about exactly?

Datisi · Sat May 23, 2020 11:47 am

i don't have any aaaaaaaaaa

Datisi · Sat May 23, 2020 11:50 am

alright

Datisi · Mon May 25, 2020 12:02 am

how bad is nolynch on evens again?

Datisi · Mon May 25, 2020 12:16 am

lmao donc's comment annoys me so much i wanna vote him but i know at this state that is the opposite of productive

VOTE: aldus

this is L-1 and it probably flips town and i'm doing this for the GrEaTeR GoOd or whatever

Datisi · Mon May 25, 2020 12:48 am

wait were you in GnR3?

Datisi · Post Post #1151 (isolation #77) » Mon May 25, 2020 1:02 am

In post 1140, DonCorleone wrote:
In post 1124, Datisi wrote:lmao donc's comment annoys me so much i wanna vote him
Why, what’s inaccurate there?

it's funny

towngame after towngame i get shit like
> "datisi is lurking, scum"
> "datisi isn't invested in this game, scum"
> "datisi doesn't have reads, scum"
> "datisi doesn't know how to fake reads, scum"
> "datisi doesn't have progressions and trajectories, scum"
> "datisi isn't as towny as in micro 900, scum"

but

BUT

once i actually do roll scum, everyone townreads me

pedit: holy fuk chill

Datisi · Post Post #1154 (isolation #78) » Mon May 25, 2020 1:04 am

oh hey ico is here

ico why am i a bad lynch day 1

Datisi · Post Post #1156 (isolation #79) » Mon May 25, 2020 1:05 am

also aldus i see you and i appreciate you

is there a chance to swing wagon elsewhere

Datisi · Post Post #1171 (isolation #80) » Mon May 25, 2020 1:11 am

literally the only thing saving jackson from eating rope is being first in draft and that's sad

soon even that won't be enough

Datisi · Post Post #1180 (isolation #81) » Mon May 25, 2020 1:13 am

you've also managed to successfully misread me for being sO fAr out of my ToWn mEtA don't be shy ico

Datisi · Post Post #1190 (isolation #82) » Mon May 25, 2020 1:15 am

In post 1178, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1171, Datisi wrote:literally the only thing saving jackson from eating rope is being first in draft and that's sad

soon even that won't be enough
If jackson in first in the draft, and he's town, don't you think there is a ++chance scum are gonna target him making him self-resolved?

you may have a point but that still doesn't make me wanna lynch them less lmao

Pedit holy fucc

Datisi · Post Post #1206 (isolation #83) » Mon May 25, 2020 1:28 am

jackson did vote melody tho

also ico my confidence level of anyone being scum here is like 5-maybe10% tops i'm not even trying to look for associates here

let alone how bad i am at reading associates

Datisi · Post Post #1214 (isolation #84) » Mon May 25, 2020 1:37 am

VOTE: melody

i'm around till deadline

though i'll probably get progressively crankier

fair warning

Datisi · Post Post #1223 (isolation #85) » Mon May 25, 2020 2:08 am

Ok so turns out my availability might not be as good as i thought so

VOTE: aldus

Might be able to check in here and there but no promises

Datisi · Post Post #1249 (isolation #86) » Wed May 27, 2020 6:35 am

DC, how interested are you in a defense based on meta?

Datisi · Thu May 28, 2020 10:02 pm

is donc back yet? no? ok have a nice day everyone

Datisi · Post Post #1396 (isolation #88) » Sat May 30, 2020 3:07 am

In post 1378, alimdia wrote:
In post 1374, Datisi wrote:is donc back yet? no? ok have a nice day everyone
this

Datisi · Sun May 31, 2020 12:57 am

waiting for dc to get to the good part like

Datisi · Post Post #1426 (isolation #90) » Sun May 31, 2020 1:54 am

In post 1407, DonCorleone wrote:
In post 1266, DoctorPepper wrote:
In post 1223, Datisi wrote:Ok so turns out my availability might not be as good as i thought so

VOTE: aldus

Might be able to check in here and there but no promises
Yeah Dats could have claimed they weren't online if they didn't bus Aldus

DC dats is probably town
idk, I'm listening but I don't think this is as good as you think given that Datisi had just voted melody and then was coming back onto aldus once fark changed his vote back. that to me looks more like someone realising that there are enough people around that with no appetite for melody, aldus is probably defaulting into being the lynch and wanting to make sure the positioning is good.

the main thing that makes me unsure is couching it in the "not sure if I'll be available so I'm gonna vote now" thing. idk if scum would think like that or would think to make their vote using that justification

why does that "make you unsure" exactly? like that's a pretty easy thing to say no?

Datisi · Post Post #1432 (isolation #91) » Sun May 31, 2020 2:42 am

In post 1429, DonCorleone wrote:
In post 1426, Datisi wrote:why does that "make you unsure" exactly? like that's a pretty easy thing to say no?
unsure as in I don't know if scum would think to say it, as in tonally it's quite casual and that's giving me a bit of pause

I still think you're very likely scum. whatever happened to that meta-defence you were going to provide?

do you think faking tone like that is out of my scumrange? or is that the tone of that post strikes you as different than my tone in other posts?

you were gone for 3 days

i'm debating with myself if it's worth digging around for the links i need when (1) you probably won't care either way and (2) there's a chance you get lynched today kekw

Datisi · Post Post #1434 (isolation #92) » Sun May 31, 2020 3:05 am

i don't get how jailkeeper outing helps town win?

Datisi · Post Post #1441 (isolation #93) » Sun May 31, 2020 6:02 am

@skitter
why does what you say about dp in 1255 not apply to me and what happened to this:

In post 13, skitter30 wrote:I also think its low-key unlikely for there to be more than 1 scum in the 1's and 2's combined

Datisi · Sun May 31, 2020 10:27 am

what's the case on ico again?

Datisi · Sun May 31, 2020 11:50 pm

In post 1475, Farkset wrote:The slot should claim. If they kill him, you are left alive, which is a positive outcome for the town. If you die, we will know that the doc/rb slot is scum.

doesn't saying "if there's a town JK don't be on dunn tonight" yield the same results without outing the slot?

Datisi · Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:00 am

then we know at least one of the doc/rb and jk/tracker slots are scum?

counterpoint: jk/tracker slot claims today, neither dunn nor they die, dunn claims blocked. do we just mindlessly lynch the jk/track claim tomorrow? i still don't see how them claiming today helps us.

Datisi · Post Post #1488 (isolation #97) » Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:03 am

In post 1442, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1441, Datisi wrote:@skitter
why does what you say about dp in 1255 not apply to me and what happened to this:
In post 13, skitter30 wrote:I also think its low-key unlikely for there to be more than 1 scum in the 1's and 2's combined
a) wrt the end of the aldu wagon - when it looked like other people might be viable, you indicated that you preferred a different lynch, but circled back to aldu once other people shut that down (i said i wouldn't switch, fark revoted aldu)
b) yes that's true and tbh i kinda forgot that you were in the 1's. i don't think that it's a great reason to rule out half the pl tho,
and at this point i kinda want to push you a bit given that i feel woefully unimpressed with your content

In post 1486, skitter30 wrote:VOTE: doctorpepper

?

Datisi · Post Post #1490 (isolation #98) » Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:10 am

skitter30 wrote:i think there's a decent chance of scum being above aldu in the draft

In post 4, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:8. Skitter - 2
9. Alduskkel - 2

:thonk:

VOTE: drpepper

Datisi · Post Post #1493 (isolation #99) » Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:21 am

mm, not really, no, but i'm not townreading anyone in the actual sense of the word

might be because i'm feeling pretty demotivated for this game right now (i say right now but it's obviously been like that for a good while)

how similarly does scum!you act towards your partners in newbies and non-newbies? i remember what made me walk back from scum!you in 1992 was you saying you wouldn't bus that hard in a newbie.

Datisi · Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:37 am

In post 1494, skitter30 wrote:do you have any reads?
why are you sheeping me so much then?

i have alimdia/CSF/skitter/jv/drdrew/dunn as do not lynch today
and n_m as maybe do not lynch due to draft order

In post 1494, skitter30 wrote:pretty differently, bussing is very much on the table in non-newbie games

i am very aware of that

i'm talking more about buddying partners than bussing

i'm debating with myself about you and your associates with aldus and rn i don't think it's scum indicative
and i'm fine sheeping you since you probably have better reads than me and you're more invested than me etc

can you give me tldr on ico town? or quote it if you've already made it

also @fark i think you missed it before, why is ico close to the top of your lynchlist?

Datisi · Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:11 am

Spoiler: relevant quotes on drpepper

> first i'm probably town because i could've claimed to not be online
> now i'm scum for ??? disinterest???
> his other scumread is voting donc
> instead of voting for his first scumread that he called town earlier (me) when there is somewhat support for that lynch, he's instead voting a nullread who did a gambit

along

with his scumread (farkset)

ok

checks out

Datisi · Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:20 am

In post 1524, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Datisi you should write the towncase on yourself

the towncase was gonna be how a while back (micro 892) i rolled scum with a friend, and even when things went completely to shit i wasn't letting go because i wanted to win the game

and aldus and i have been friends since last year so the same logic would've been i wouldn't give up/lose motivation if i was scum with him here

but the thing is the game before this one (micro 940) i rolled masons with an old friend
and completely gave up/lost all motivation when things completely went to shit
so i no longer think that argument would be clearing or even fair to make

Datisi · Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:20 am

In post 1566, DoctorPepper wrote:PoE

the fucc does that even

mean

here

Datisi · Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:29 am

with fark?

Datisi · Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:36 am

how tf am i scum by PoE if you literally have 5 null reads (one of which you're currently voting??)

that's not how PoE works

that's not how mafia works

Datisi · Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:05 am

sometimes i get inspiration, fark

and a slot claiming that (1) i am scum with you (2) while earlier calling me town (3) and voting with you (4) onto a nullread (5) he had 5 of (6) while claiming i'm scum to him by Po fuckin' E

is ~quite~ inspiring

Datisi · Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:17 am

do you as town sheep your scumread onto someone you find null? do you have a PoE solve of 2 when you have 5 nulls in a game where's 2 scum and 10 town alive?

pedit: @fark

Datisi · Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:44 am

lynch pepper pls

also the way pepper voted for donc i'm p sure if pepper flips scum donc ain't the partner

Datisi · Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:47 am

fark, do you use "disaligned" to mean "not the same alignment" or "not scum together"?

Datisi · Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:53 am

In post 1621, DonCorleone wrote:
In post 1493, Datisi wrote:mm, not really, no, but i'm not townreading anyone in the actual sense of the word

might be because i'm feeling pretty demotivated for this game right now (i say right now but it's obviously been like that for a good while)

how similarly does scum!you act towards your partners in newbies and non-newbies? i remember what made me walk back from scum!you in 1992 was you saying you wouldn't bus that hard in a newbie.
if you're feeling unmotivated then are you actually likely to go through and verify what skitter says to you here? because otherwise this seems like a kind of lazy/empty question as scum!skitter could just lie with impunity. I don't think skitter has a set play style as scum either, meaning she'd probably be able to provide a game or two of meta in either direction should she decide to lie about what she honestly thinks

i don't do metareads based on random games i wasn't a part of

i am for reasons familiar with (i think) newbie 1971 where skit was scum and her partner got lynched day 1 and she tried to swing the wagon onto someone else
based on her reply there it maybe would've inspired me to look at that game again
which maybe would've inspired me to do something here
not everything i post/ask serves an exact purpose
some things i post just to see if the responses Spark My Inspiration

In post 1622, DonCorleone wrote:
In post 1495, Datisi wrote:i have alimdia/CSF/skitter/jv/drdrew/dunn as do not lynch today
and n_m as maybe do not lynch due to draft order
okay, explain why for these then

explain what your read on me is. you've made comments about how you think I might get lynched and you don't seem unhappy with it. do you think I'm scum here ?what did you think of my gambit? if you do think I'm scum why have you been hesitant to join on me? what do you think it says that a significant element of your TRs are not voting me?

alimdia seems kinda towny also apparently was a counter to aldus
someone linked CSF's posts that are antipartner with aldus
skitter is kinda gut
jv is a cop clear
drdrew is the whole neighborizer claim logic
dunn is a cop claim

fucc if i have a read on you. your tunnel is annoying and i'm so far having a hard time taking it too seriously becuase it seems like you're just shouting in the wind, also you're a contender for the lynch so no point shouting back at you if you die today anyway.

i'm not too unhappy about it because so much of this game has been revolving around your fakeclaim it's getting boring to read and is just killing my interest further. i don't think you're scum, no, that's why i'm not voting you right now. i don't care too much about your gambit in terms of your alignment.

i'm assuming you're gonna get to it, but i'd like to hear your thought on my posts on the second half of pg 63 and pg 64.

Datisi · Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:38 am

In post 1630, DonCorleone wrote:see, part of my problem is that I feel like scum a lot of the time are "asking things without a purpose". that's why I was asking icon about you after he joined the game, because that seems to fit with a lot of what you've been doing -- as in, not really playing.

-snip-

do you not think that my gambit is an important element in determining my alignment?

I guess partly I think you're not interested in a lot fo things I am interested in, and that's pinging because I want those things focused to try and find scum while you're kind of just passing on them.

from "scum ask things without a purpose" and "datisi is asking things without a purpose" you cannot logically conclude "datisi is scum". am i doing that? yeah. but that's how i play when i don't have a good grasp on the game or my reads.

~

it might be to other people. to me it's not. my first instinct when seeing a gambit like that is "oh it's town because scum wouldn't do that", and i am aware of how worthless that conclusion is. so i disregard the whole thing. if my ability to discern someone's alignment is better by some means than others, i'm generally not gonna waste time banging my head against the wall with things i'm not good at.

what are the lot of things you're interested in here and i'm not, apart from your gambit?

Datisi · Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:14 pm

ngl i still kinda wanna lynch through the claim because "poe solve despite having 5 null reads" is still pissing me off

Datisi · Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:33 pm

you still haven't explained how one gets a poe solve with 5 nullreads

especially considering you declared me town at the beginning of the day

and i really don't give a shit if scum "vibes" me or not

pedit: i'm not pushing you because i don't like your reads, i'm pushing you because your reads make no sense
do you know the difference?

Datisi · Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:42 pm

In post 1655, DoctorPepper wrote:1. I could be dynamic in how I read you
2. I gut scum you because I generally think your general disinterest was scummy. And yeah PoE with 5 nulls is annoying but could it be that I just find you scummier than them?

1. ok, explain the DyNaMiCs because i was pretty disinterested in day 1 too
when i voted for aldus
what you called me town for

2. except when i asked you literally just said "PoE"
and if you think someone is scummier than 5 nullreads you have in a 12-playerbase (or really 11 since you don't have to read yourself)
that's not p o e

Datisi · Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:32 pm

maybe you should vote then? donc is on l-2 i think

Datisi · Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:37 pm

i thought you preferred donc to pepper anyway?

Datisi · Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:08 am

VOTE: N_M
dab

Datisi · Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:19 am

In post 1684, DonCorleone wrote:I don't really understand the paragraph. why is that worthless as a conclusion?

and I think that besides my gambit, you've also not been particularly interested in the implications of the NK, or looking at the VCA and what that might imply. or interactions with our flipped scum, particularly.

it's worthless because realistically, you can be town executing a gambit perfectly, or scum obvscumming by obviously fucking up the gambit in some way, and i most likely would go "oh ye town probably scum don't do that". it's worthless. which i'm aware can sound as either scum not wanting to do things or town not bothering to learn them, but it is what it is.

i don't exactly do VCA, again, i don't know how. historically i've been much better at telling alignments between different people by reading certain interactions rather than by scrolling through a mod iso.

i'll give you that, i haven't gone back and reread day 1 with flipped scum in mind.

Datisi · Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:25 am

who are the so many people being allowed to do that?

Datisi · Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:29 am

he literally claimed 1s watcher lmao

Datisi · Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:07 am

i modded that, it was around february

Datisi · Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:15 am

In post 1718, DoctorPepper wrote:
In post 1715, Datisi wrote:i modded that, it was around february
So since you modded, is Ico's indignation at fake claiming legit?

Did anything happen in that game for him to rethink his stance?

But at the same time, why would he like about wanting to Policy Lynch DonC for a fakeclaim if a mod of his saw that he wasn't bothered by it

if i remember correcly, ico was a mason, and once mena replaced into the game and lolclaimed mason, ico lost his shit and basically cc'ed him and there was a couple of pages back and forth of "you're scum" "that was an obvious fakeclaim" "no u" "no u"

and sometime later ico mentioned in the mason thread "i'm pretty sure this is town mena i'm just pushing his buttons" or whatever

but i don't exactly remmeber how much time was there between the two

newbie 1989 if you wanna go investigate yourself

Datisi · Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:15 am

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=82324

Datisi · Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:26 am

but you got to a tr of mena? and he was neevr lynched?

Datisi · Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:31 am

menal repped out two hours before the game ended so like

it was his slot 95% of the time

and he was never lynched

wouldn't pro policy lynch state be "lynch him anyway despite TRing him"?

Datisi · Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:36 am

yeah you pushed it pretty strongly for some time

but tbh i don't remember how long that time was nor why you switched

and right now i don't have the time nor the will to actually reread

Datisi · Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:59 am

is there any one universe where i'm not scum to you donc

bc it's getting old

Datisi · Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:06 am

ig intent in like an hour

Datisi · Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:33 am

strongman

Datisi · Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:34 am

wait that's not hammer

VOTE: donc

sorry

Datisi · Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:32 am

uhhmmm, did a vig shoot Farkset last night? and would a town jk/rb ever block pepper?

Datisi · Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:46 am

yeah, that's what i'm saying. i don't get why town would block him.

Datisi · Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:54 am

In post 1831, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
Yeah I’m neither jk or rb

Datisi · Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:54 am

oh

VOTE: not_mafia

Datisi · Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:11 pm

holy shit ico and i finally won a game together

also uhh this game happened i guess?

gg

thank you for modding

Datisi · Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:29 am

it's been more than 24 hours zzz