Open 422: Polygamist Mafia (Game Over)

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You Fool!

VOTE: Malee

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What do yall think about mass claim?

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Why is it?

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And Delta lol 12 hours to the minute and you are on hand to let us know we can post, that, is dedication!

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I wanted to see who would parrot the wiki and who actually had thought about it.

Maybe more towards late D1 would be a better idea.

Explain this

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I put Malee at two votes!! call the cops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I voted Malee because; its better than voting someone with 0votes as that acomplishes as much as this question.

Malee: why is you being at one vote convenient for my explanation? do you seriously think putting a second vote on someone is a scumtell? what is there to explain exactly?

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Yellow you can still answer my question

Why was/is it too early for massclaim?

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Seemed like a good way to start discussion and see who had been thinking about if mass claim is good or not and who had been thinking 'Well wiki says mass claim better late so guess better massclaim late' Looking for reactions you could call it yes.

I like the Malee vote fwiw

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lol I did try mislynching you in one game before you site flaked but sure, I was scum, what do you expect? you were lollurking and I thought easymislynch lets go!

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OK

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Snake

Everyone votes him in their next post or explains why they think the guy who wanted an exact start time is lurking through the game hardcore.

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Cant wait for game to start
Game starts
Posts once in 3 days

The important bit is; nothing in the three days has really happened. So he as scum came in got the vote down early then decides to lurk till something happens... its safe scumplay.
If you don't punish this type of play all that happens is the town post early get into a war and beat each other up then the scum enter a little later and join the party.

The fact he was getting an exact start time shows he was interested in playing, but he actually isnt playing which backs up this hencewhy hes the vote over all the other lurkers.

Voting Snake is good.

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No one put anyone at L-2. People need to stop saying that.

This.

For those who are a little confused;
L-2 is not when someone has two votes, its when they are two votes from being hammered.

Fennin stuff is ... what?

Malee it would be greatly appreciated if you could just ignore him and reply to Aru.

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Bridge is TAM your top scumread?

Everyone vote snake. There is a 4/10 chance hes scum without reads, this is the best vote ever considering everyone is just derping about right now.
Plus the added bonus I am town so you know there is 2 town who are not snake, basically 4/8 50/50 chance of town win simply by lynching Snake.
Plus Plus the final bonus, noone else has shown interest in wagoning him; scum are not jumping on what looks like an easy lurker wagon.

I understand the case isn't amazing but there simply isn't a good case right now on anyone, get on snake.

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lol

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Malee

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TAM/Malee need to claim lovers/not lovers imo.

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Hiraki/TAM need to claim if they are lovers or not

It is very important to know as my perception is they are buddies ergo we have 1 wagon split into two.

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TAM why do you need to see what Hiraki says?

Either you are lovers with Hiraki or you are not.

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TAM and Malee/Hiraki are claiming if they are lovers together or not.

End of 'Discussion'

Bridges: the wiki is not to be followed religiously.

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Also ill say this now. I'm trying a more aggressive style this game since I was fairly passive in my last one.

Record (W-L)
Town: 0-0
Mafia: 1-0

Seems like slip.

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If u think so, why wouldn't u just vote me? Do u have any opinions on anyone btw?

Yes thanks.

Slandaar, you've seem fairly consistent on your request for TAM and Malee/Hiraki to confirm lovers or not. What would a confirmation or denial mean for you, respectively?

I am not going to let them know that ahead of time.

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Malee (4): Arugula, Yellowbounder, Slandaar, Charter (L-3)
The Acting Method (1): GreyICE (L-6)

The Acting Method (3): GreyICE, Nyalite, BridgesandBaloons (L-4)
Hiraki (3): Arugula, Slandaar, Charter (L-4)

Malee(Hiraki): Aru/Yellow/Slan/Charter
TAM: Grey/Nyal/Bridges

They are either town/town or scum/scum

People not on the wagons
Malee/TAM/JD/Jal/Snake

Remove Snake or JD; remove JD and you have a likely scumteam remove Snake who is probably lovers with Yellow and you don't

Yellow; lovers with Snake or not?

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Also ill say this now. I'm trying a more aggressive style this game since I was fairly passive in my last one.

Record (W-L)
Town: 0-0
Mafia: 1-0

Seems like slip.

So, this was pretty serious and everyone ignored, I see.

Well for those who don't understand;

JD has played one game on site, a scumgame.
JD says he is trying a more aggressive style than the last one

This is a slip because if he were town he would be playing a different/more aggressive because he is town, that is the logical reasoning from a townie, not because he wants to try something different.

He can only be trying a different style compared to his last game if hes scum here. He can not be trying a different style as town because the two are not compatible, there is no reason to change your style to see how it works unless you have something to compare it to. He does not have any town games to compare ergo why change style to try something different? its because hes scum trying a different style.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: JD

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Before I say anything else, I don't understand the point you're making with all these match ups. So Aru/Yellow/Slan/Charter are either town/town, or scum/scum?

I don't understand this post at all.

No, you can actually figure out if TAM/Malee is town/town or scum/scum based on the fact 7/12 players voted them leaving only 3 who were not them off the wagons by POE, you can look at the 3 not on and see if the scumteam makes sense or not.

Assuming that you are Snakes buddy the team does not make sense ergo Malee/TAM are town.

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My style last game was designed to make people like me, be easily ignored, and shamelessly sheeping the ic and excusing every mistake by being just a silly noob.

It worked really well, but does jack shit to find scum.

Of course because you were scum the goal isnt to find scum...

IF YOU WERE TOWN: Your style changed BECAUSE you are town not BECAUSE you wanted to try something different.

Ergo you are not town, you are scum.

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Why does it matter who I think is town right now?

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I missed that. Ok u think TAM and hiraki are town.

Conditional.

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Ok so given that you think they're town, which of the people on the wagon are likely to be scum? The must be at least 1 if both TAM and hiraki are town.

Pedit: because I think its helpful to know how players see other players

@hiraki, did u confirm buddies with TAM o.o

That was the whole point

To get the claim so we could throw the wagon together as one and figure out if they are town or scum.

Assuming Yellow is claiming with Snake they are town.

I just need to find this out now.

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JD do you think ALL scum voted TAM/Malee assuming they are town?

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Its a scumclaim.

Lynch.

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OK Massclaim

Bridges and I

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Bridge:
If we take your read Grey/Nyal are town
Jal/Aru are not with Malee/TAM

leaves
Snake/Yellow

What do you think?

The thing with Nyal is she is basically gone from white knight to high horse all the scum voted JD! which is obviously lol when there is no basis for it.

Pedit: aru said it.

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He was more aggressive because he was town not because he was trying something different.

Fact is; he never needed to say that because he would have appeared town via meta, but then when he says it it implies hes worried people are going to wonder why hes playing differently it makes sense hes worried because he is scum knowing hes playing differently. Town should know they are playing differently because they are town not because they are trying something out to compare to a scum game which is impossible basically.

Whatever it was wrong but it was pretty solid I think.

Whats wrong with pushing snake? what were you doing at that point? oh yes fuelling fires.

Also 'you attempted to quick lynch' its like you are using buzzwords to try and make your arguments sound better, quite laughable. I pushed lurker Snake, so what? I still find it scummy that he wanted an exact start time then has posted a grand total of 0 content.

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Im going to reread this game tomorrow...

You suggest it was random when it wasn't random and thats where your whole point falls flat

Why do you think Yellow/Snake are town Nyal?

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Wait why is Jal/Aru not with Malee/TAM??

Early game interactions between Aru and Malee/TAM

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VOTE: Snake

I mean its where my vote is going no need to hang around

Nyal you are wrong. Understand this scenario: JD HAD TO BE LYNCHED AFTER SCUMCLAIM. Scum can therefore avoid the wagon easily to attract less heat while town lynch the scumclaimer. The whole issue is in fact null. Your perspective is just biased and mega scummy as you basically whiteknighted into calling people who mislynched a scumclaimer scum.

Now you explain the town reads.

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Why is snake scum? because its obvious.
Check here, note he has confirmed a prein and inned a new game when all he has posted in this game is...

EST how many hours different to GMT is that?

Shows hes interested to get going. never does.

VOTE: Jai for being the easiest to type on a moving train.

Prod dodge will catchup soon.

Prod dodge.

Sorry everyone I should note Im pretty much V/LA every weekend. Now where we at?

Prod dodge

Unvote

I'm going to re read later today, but I will put it ou there now if I concur with e rest of us I will place an intent to hammer down now. That a place holder intent, it may be rescinded After my read up.

I will post some overdue thoughts and comments too.

Never happened failed to produce promised content (prod dodge)

Lynch

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Grey who is buddies with TAM/Malee?

You can clearly rule out me/bridge and Aru/Jal

Leaving

Snake/Yellow.

I think you are probably town even though Nyal is being ridiculous. I don't see why scum Nyal would flip an attack switch as scum instead of just sitting back after yesterday as she has done pretty much the whole day it seems more like a town move...

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Yellow/Snake own up you're scum.

What did you talk about in your qt pregame?

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Why didn't you answer my question Yellow?

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Trying to pretend you don't have a qt?

Its pretty obvious Snake wanted to know the start time of the game to know when your scumqt closed. Probably discussing who claims with who and he needed to make sure he checked back to post before game started.

You are scum. Its obvious.

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Yeah noone cares we knew what you meant

But why are you ignoring my questioning Yellow?

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Yellow explain to me why Snake asked for an exact start time if he doesn't have a qt to post in?

I want a sensible explanation to explain someone asking for a start time then posting 0 content the whole game. It just makes no sense unless hes scum.

Snake I don't want you answering this, thanks.

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What did you talk about in your qt pregame?

Trying to pretend you don't have a qt?

Yellow explain to me why Snake asked for an exact start time if he doesn't have a qt to post in?

Neither Snake or Yellow have managed to say they have a qt, clearly if they were town they would have said by now they have one. Scum clearly do not know we do.

Yellow thought where I asked what he talked about pregame was useless; he doesnt realise town has qt. He only took the post one way, when I broke it into two deliberately to fool scum and allow town to say what they posted in their qt.

in 520 and 528 I gave them both prime opportunities to say they have a qt.

Neither of them has managed to pick up on the fact I was implying town do not have a qt.

Lynch

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Neither Snake or Yellow have managed to say they have a qt

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What?

OK

Town its grey/nyal/yellow/snake like guaranteed.

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How does me knowing town have qts implicate me in anyway when Yellow and Snake clearly dont know Grey?

Get out of here scum

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Desperate attempt to save your buddies Grey

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They clearly didn't know

So they are scum

Its not rocket science.

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Just because somethings on page 1 doesn't mean it was read.

Noone ever reads the pms.

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Basically Greys theory is I am scum who read the front page and pretended I didnt to push an idea to try and get Yellow to town or scum tell he scum told but that makes me scum.

Lol

Ridiculous

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Lynch these 4 dont care which they are all scum

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Okay, so explain the fact that the role PMs are in the opening post since this is an open setup

What was the point in this post?

It means nothing

Its just a lame attempt to defend your buddies.

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What didn't happen inbetween here is him appealing to Arugula/Jal with the same logic he used on me.

I thought they were scum at this point

BUT ARUGULA/JAL ARE VOTING TAMRAKI

So?

Town slandaar should at least realize that town-Jarugula voting town-Tamraki is a disaster. And why not try the same logic he tried on me with them? Arugula already has a town read on them, and has a town read on us. It would be straight up natural for town-slandaar to try and get them onto his wagon on Snake.

The only explanation is he doesn't care about getting their votes on snake because the votes will be there when he needs them.

Fact is if I were scum with them I wouldn't need to try and persuade you as town to move vote as you would already be voting town no need to move you onto a smaller wagon.

Arugula post 59 seems like it supports team 1 as well. If you look at most of the interaction between the lovers. It's like "Heeey I dunnno about that, but keep up the good work!" Which is what 59 seems like to me. "Don't fucking push that cause you'll look scummy as shit, but let me give this a postive spin" But Arugula and Sland aren't lovers.

So

Aru -> Me makes me scum when the connection is one way?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Nyal

Lets go.

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Arugula post 59 seems like it supports team 1 as well.

Arus post suggests Aru/Sland

Yellow although lurky has at least had decent content when he comes in. He has notice a lot of slandaar's weird magic-logic that he uses to push lynches.

OK go get one useful post from him.

Magic Logic lol. My logic is based on the premise scum can argue indefinitely because you can always argue with someone theory etc so there is no scum motivation in Most arguments without meta knowledge.

So you need to find other stuff. Stuff like lurking when they wanted an exact start time, stuff like promising content and not delivering, things like not knowing town had qts.

Its pretty obvious the four of you are scum here.

I'm also not sold on Arugula's town read on slandaar.
But dun worry Arugula thinks hes coming from a town-minded POV.

Aru say X about Sland

You and me + 4.
Yellow has definitively seen slandaar for how ridiculous he is. So I hope we can count on his vote.

Lets vote sland?

Why? because Aru said stuff about me?

Lynch this scumbag.

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Yellow explain to me why Snake asked for an exact start time if he doesn't have a qt to post in?

TAM:

It is plain obvious any town responds to this with;
'He does have a qt'

Absolutely obvious

Grey and Nyal are scum with them.

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I put myself in a bad position asking that btw

But I knew they didn't know

Which is why I outed when I did what I did to ensure the wrong end of the stick wasn't taken, but as soon as I do, oooo Sland scum not Yellow? Its ridiculous honestly, its clearly scum buddies desperately defending them.

Now lynch these 4 it really does not matter at this point.

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I push Tam, Slandaar snap pushes Yellow while basically refusing to comment on Tamraki.

Vote: The Acting Method

Good game

Starts Here

lol

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Malee

27 posts later

Lying scumbag

Lynch

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Did I force both of you (especially Yellow) to ignore questions regarding the qt? Did I force you to not catch on to the fact I was implying town don't have them?

BOTH of you missed it, not just one this is why its so clear...

And so obvious Grey and Nyal are your buddies who know you need help.

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Nyal scum whiteknighted then was attacking town all day on her podium never considering Snake/Yellow for a second

Grey wouldn't vote Snake even when Malee/TAM's only logical buddies are Yellow/Snake

Its clear. The connections are there.

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Okay, so explain the fact that the role PMs are in the opening post since this is an open setup

What was the point in this post?

It means nothing

Its just a lame attempt to defend your buddies.

Also this

Grey has no answer

He is scum.

Just because the pms are on page 1 does not mean scum read them/know. This is why Grey is scum, what did I have to explain? that Yellow/Snake failed to mention they have a qt but that doesn't matter because WELL PMS ON FRONT PAGE YOU GUIZ

No its desperate

Really desperate.

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Yellow

Now you are trapped

1v1 for rest of day

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Im going to reread this game tomorrow...

You suggest it was random

when it wasn't random and thats where your whole point falls flat

Why do you think Yellow/Snake are town Nyal?

What? I wasn't saying its random.

You tried to follow the wiki's little "do a random lynch for EZ win mode.

"

Contradiction

Where is the scum motivation in anything you just wrote?

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Your team 4:
If this is the scum team... We might as well give up.

Why?
This is ridiculous logic just like Greys.


Also... Where did I say TAM/Hiraki were my '#2'?

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@Sland If the scum team is Yellow/snake/hiraki/TAM What do you propose we do about it?

Lynch them?

Lynch snake and hope for the best? That would be stupid. It also doesn't seem like snake will be joining us this game, he will just keep prod dodging his way 'til the end.

This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read.

'Snakes prod dodging the whole game so I have a null read on him'

If you really feel this is the scum team, focus on the other three at the very least. No one is buying that little trap you did. Give us something else. Or at least tell us why we are wrong about other teams.

It wasn't a trap as such.

But once he voted me and I decide to vote him he is locked in/trapped. Its no coincidence the timing of his vote he only voted me after I moved vote in that tiny window, so I moved back and now I have got what I want. Yellow and me in 1v1.

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Slandaar

:

Also... Where did I say TAM/Hiraki were my '#2'?

It was insinuated in the exchange you had with GreyICE. You certainly didn't deny it when GreyICE drew the same conclusion I have.

Later

you go on to say that it was because you thought Arugula and I were scum

I want to see quotes.

but if that's in anyway way true, you still accused and voted for someone else who wasn't your #2 scum pick.

Yeah I voted my #1 pick

Did you have a point?

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See now Im stuck between voting on TAM or Slandaar, as both give me scummy vibes, however I'm wondering if it's more annoynance at Slandaar, throwing accusations around like it's going out of fashion. I don't think I should vote for somebody based on being annoyed with them, because in LYLO you simply cant do that, because I place that vote on and I'm wrong, that effectively means the scum team will throw on their 4 votes in quick succession and we lose the game. Unless of course if he isn't and then we possibly have found our scum team which is why im looking at TAM currently too. Because even with all this inactivity (Myself included) at some point they would have still found time to vote?

Waffle Waffle Waffle

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im looking at TAM currently too. Because even with all this inactivity (Myself included) at some point they would have still found time to vote?

I actually have some time now where I'm not lurking like a boss (My sarcasm)

I'm going to VOTE: BridgesAndBaloons while I check up on some things.

Amusing

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The most ironic thing about you pushing a lynch on snake?

lol I did try mislynching you in one game before you site flaked but sure, I was scum, what do you expect? you were lollurking and I thought easymislynch lets go!

Thats only ironic if my meta was just 2 games. But its not, so its not.

The second most ironic thing about you pushing a lynch on snake?

Bridgesandballons - 19 post
SnakePlisskin - 10 post

What? so your point is Bridge has posted more than Snake?

If you honestly want us to believe that Snake is scum, and he has purposely been prod-dodging and posting nothingness so that we won't ever be able to tell he is scum, we will have you lynch your partner too. Who is a much better example of scumlurkerfish.

You can tell hes scum

Hes clearly read the thread, hes had time to read the thread but not posted any content.

I mean how obvious does it have to be?

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I want to see quotes.

You had to have seen it before getting to this post when

reading

the thread, non?

I had to have posted it yet I do not remember doing so...

Quotes. Or do they not exist?

Oh, so Greyalite is your #1 pick then? Go on.

Where did you get that from?

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Hes clearly read the thread, hes had time to read the thread but not posted any content.

How exactly is it obvious that he is reading the thread beyond looking at what his partner has been saying or looking at the latest several posts made prior to posting?

See now Im stuck between voting on TAM or Slandaar, as both give me scummy vibes, however I'm wondering if it's more annoynance at Slandaar, throwing accusations around like it's going out of fashion.

Obvious.

How can he say this otherwise?

Considering that point - why

aren't

you voting TAM again?

Considering what?

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Do you actually read the thread whatsoever, or do you just fail to comprehend the written word and try to bullshit it as you go?

You think you can say I said something then not provide quotes after being requested twice?

Nope.

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No it's still ironic. You told us while scum you try to get lurkers lynched. You would think you wouldn't spend the entire thread trying to lynch a lurker.

OK so in four of my town games I hunted down lurkers

So, that means 4/5 I am town when hunting lurkers so 20% is terrible odds of me being scum as that is worse than random.

But it is skewed due to size of meta which is what you are doing here but keep pretending what you say has any basis.

You are accusing snake of being a scum lurkerfish and you are trying to get us to help you lynch him for it, because OBVS HES SCUM. Yet at the same time, if there was a person in this thread who was scum lurkerfish it would be B&B. He has barely posted, just enough to avoid the scorn of the players, and the prods of the mod. When he does post, he mostly talked about mass-claiming, commenting on things to you, or the very little "scum-hunting" he has done is things it seems like he copied from other people.

You don't know the difference between town and scum lurking.

Do you understand why it's hard for us to join you here?

Nope

As Jal has pointed out, you don't know if he has read the thread. There is no way to tell if he is scum or not. Only someone who is looking at the game backwards would be this sure. (By looking at it backwards I mean from a scum perspective.)

Look at the posts here

It does not take a brain surgeon to work out if he has time to post in a new game he joined while having no time to post in this one for 2 weeks he is scum here.

But oh no he cant be scum because hes lurking right? we can't lynch lrkers because its impossible to read them gotta lynch the actives and let scum lurk to victory every game because they are not allowed to be lynched.

Its just so obvious the 4 of you are buddies at this point...

No way can town believe this junk about not being able to read lurkers.

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The quote was provided in another recent post of mine prior to you asking this. I'm not going let you off the hook and do your reading and researching for you.

I want you to quote it.

It takes you five seconds.

[Slandaar]

I have read

Quote it

Why so coy? you have nothing to hide right?

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You obviously haven't read anything No wonder you keep going after Snake. You don't need to read shit all for his posts.

622

Nowhere in that quote do I insinuate I think TAM/Hiraki are scum

Nowhere

I am talking to grey bout his read and trying to get him to vote my scumread Yellow/Snake.

Spreading misinformation is cool though.

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It was insinuated in the exchange you had with GreyICE. You certainly didn't deny it when GreyICE drew the same conclusion I have. Later you go on to say that it was because you thought Arugula and I were scum - but if that's in anyway way true, you still accused and voted for someone else who wasn't your #2 scum pick.

So 475 isnt where you got the idea from?

Where did you then?

I told you to quote

You quoted 475

You are now trying to worm out by suggesting it was from somewhere else?

You know why I wanted you to quote? I wanted you to reread and say you were wrong, but you couldn't

Now you are squirming.

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What the hell are you on about? Why does anyone

but you

know what I am talking about?

Grey who is buddies with TAM/Malee?

You can clearly rule out me/bridge and Aru/Jal

Leaving

Snake/Yellow.

This reads that you agreeing with Grey and you're trying to break down who Tamraki's partners are. Stop trying to redirect things.

So

I am voting Yellow/Snake but am trying to work out who TAM/Malees partners are?

Your interpretation doesn't make a lot of sense...

Grey voting: TAM/Hiraki
I am trying to get him to vote Yellow/Snake by saying if hes sure TAM/Hiraki are scum there is only one team who can be their buddies so he should vote them.

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Bottom line? 475 was you saying "Okay grey, tamraki is scum, and yellow and snake are the partners, come join my wagon."
Which is exactly what Jal has been accusing you of.

Just because TAM/Malee only work with Yellow/Snake does not mean the opposite is correct.

Nowhere do I say I think they are scum, you are both just lying.

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Bridge vote Yellow please

Lets lock this game into Yellow/Snake vs Us/TAM/Hiraki.

[Slandaar]

Yes the conversation is pointless when you realise you are both wrong of course.

It shouldn't have required me to show why your logic makes no sense. I see what you were thinking and it shows a complete lack of understanding.

[Slandaar]

Why do you want to lock the game into that? That would be so stupid.

I am town, I am always voting Yellow/Snake

May aswell lock the game in or end it.

Nothing stupid about it.

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Also you didn't show us why our logic doesn't make sense. You showed us why it is useless to argue with you.

Amusing.

You are the ones in the wrong here so I am never going to back down.

Let me tell you the flaw in your magic logic

You never try to figure out the gaps or parts you don't understand instead you jump to the conclusion it makes no sense when in fact I just expect people to be able to follow my logic as most of the logic in this game is pretty simple.

Snake increases post count with another game that just started?

I mean its a joke, he is scum

But I guess you know he is, your defence of him has been actually terrible. You have a null read on a lurker? Of course how convenient.

Snake continually promises content and doesn't deliver
Snake has proddodged to nearperfection
Yellow and He failed to say they have qt
Yellow has posted about 0 content of his own
Yellow only voted me in the tiny window in which I moved my vote off him today

Its just so obvious.

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Why is Yellow even voting me?

Maybe his ISO will reveal why?

Oh no, it won't, no reasons there just a bunch of 'I dislike Slands reasoning'

Well of course he does because I want to lynch him.

What has he actually done?

Nothing.

His response to the Scumclaim was scummy as all hell too, think about how scum would react then go read what he said.

[Slandaar]

OK then Yellow

How about you link to anything that resembles unique content in your posting today

Then when you fail

Try and show some from yesterday

[Slandaar]

So, you can't.

How surprising

[Slandaar]

Right, so my hesitation to hammer someone that could have been a townie-troll or gambit or w/e was scummier than you pushing for a lynch? If you're scum, you'd have more to gain from a townie mislynch, and you were pushing it.

Yep

It is called fence sitting

Did you say hes town? nope, did you say hes scum? nope

What did you do?
'I DUNNO YOU GUIZ WHATS GOING ON HERE???????????????'

Fencesitting during one of the most important parts of the game.

[Slandaar]

Also, in case I'm not communicating effectively, I think I am posting "unique content", and do so nearly every time I call you out on your repetitive credos.

That is not posting content

That is arguing my content

Big difference

And your constant repetitive baseless attacks against me and my lover for

too many pages

is getting in the way of serious business to find and lynch the scum. And that's almost the very definition of

not pro-town

.

You are scum I am trying to get you lynched -> protown.

I have stated my positions before, on who is scummy and who is not, and my vote is on

you

.

And frankly, the more you say, the more likely it is to stay there unless someone lays down a hella convincing argument otherwise.

Nice diversion.

I am not accusing you of fencesitting

now

am I? I am accusing of a specific point in the game.

I don't want you to move vote. Keep it on me.

[Slandaar]

This is a strange kind of LYLO where normal logic doesn't apply because scum are not 4man quickhammering

[Slandaar]

Snake come back and vote me

I am never voting anyone else, your only chance to win if you are town is to vote me and hope I am scum.

[Slandaar]

This post is acting as a reminder to me.

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This is just unhelpful. What if the scumteam is Greyalite/Tamraki?

Its not.

You are not scum with TAM/Hiraki either

Is it you and Grey/Nyal? possible, but meh, then you win, I don't care Yellow/Grey never vote anyone but town in that scenario anyways.

Otherwise Yellow and Snake are scum and I endeavour to lynch scum.

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This is the same fail logic Nyal and Jal were pushing earlier

Just because TAM/Hiraki have closed doors does not mean Yellow/Snake have closed the same ones.

Everyone works with Yellow/Snake except me/bridge this should be pretty obvious.

Should I be worried both you and your buddy have no idea who works with who?

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Yellow you are voting me so you must have a case vs me right?

Present it.

Unrelated;
Yellows post is trying too hard to look

protown

, way too hard it reeks of scum. Unfortunately my lover was the one who pointed it out so info gained by not saying it = 0.

[Slandaar]

Yellow appears to have vanished

No time to post content anymore?

[Slandaar]

Nyal why is Mr.IREFRESHTHREADALLTHETIMEBUTNEVERPOSTCONTENT not posting his case on me?

[Slandaar]

Hi TAM

I enjoyed your life story

Yellow is scum

Vote him

[Slandaar]

Yellow is hiding because he doesn't want to admit hes scum who has no case on me

[Slandaar]

I am telling you to present your case on me for the benefit of all. You want me lynched its clearly not going your way at present so where is your case?

Do you not care if TAM is lynched ahead of me?
(Rhetorical)

[Slandaar]

Well I am voting scum so I am quite happy where my vote is at present

[Slandaar]

Where are thou case yellowscum?

[Slandaar]

You mean beside your arbitrary logic, inexplicable offence at me defending my lover and unhelpful attitude?

So, your case on me is: 'You think I am scum' thats the best you could come up with in that time?

Nice Job Detective Yellow.

'inexplicable offence at me defending my lover'
This part isn't even true. But keep up with the lies, im sure noone will notice.

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Yes I wonder what CDB will say

Lets all wait in anticipation

[Slandaar]

Its not.

Nice of you to perfectly describe Yellow though 'well-read player looks intelligent then turbolurks through everything' scum game

Good Job

[Slandaar]

having played visibly within himself during that time. The bare statistics of his sitewide iso have nothing to do with that.

I swear the days I spent refreshing the thread, nothing happens, and then when I go away for like 12 hours, suddenly POSTS.

Yellow is the one who has the time and doesn't post content

Bridge posts content when he has time. This is proven by the way he burst posts.

Like its obvious.

[Slandaar]

Yeah its a really good post...

Slandaar's whole game has been spent picking up small points which sound interesting but aren't actually as slam-dunk as he thinks they are, before barking loudly and repetitively about them

This is actually fairly accurate depiction of my Town Meta, so the case is I am town?

Today he's quite clearly got his teeth into yellowbounder because he thinks that he's

a lynchable target

Scum due to his

natural

noncommitment and lack of content. Our scum pair, with Snake here before, is pretty obviously

a wet dream for

scum

[Slandaar]

See, nothing in that post shows any scum motivation unless you were town...

I love how you try to twist it into 'we are poor defenceless little lurkers and the big bad Sland trying to mislynch us' when in fact you re just lurkerscum.

[Slandaar]

Its impossible for a scumslip to come from town because a scumslip is by definition something only scum do.

Now, things can be wrongly interpreted as a scumslip but thats different.

Anyways, lynch Yellow.

[Slandaar]

I hate you all.

CDB say bridge is scum due to lurking, Yellow has 3 posts more than JD! ridiculous, yellow is a complete portrayal of CDB's case on Bridge

His case on me is I think he and Yellow are scum because they are lurking which is the exact case he has on bridge... how hard is this to understand?

The difference betweent he two...

Bridge burst posts implying hes unable to post during periods and posts when he has time (he is town) note CDB even uses the point with Snke that he was inactive so his lurking wasnt a scum tell which also applies here.
Yellow posts regularly but posts no content and coasts through the game (he is scum)

Its pretty obvious CDB/Yellow are scum.

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No I am showing his case is complete hypocrisy when he is trying to attack the other 'lurker' of the game

He says WE INNOCENT SLAND BEAT ON POOR LURKERS then BRIDGE LURKER HE SCUM

Hypocritical scumlogic.

[Slandaar]

@Slandaar - I admit that Snake's lurking so very heavily is anti-town, but there are far scummier people left alive.

Yellow implies here that Snake is scummy.

Yellow also says far scummier people are alive but ... who? he never does say.

[Slandaar]

A tale of a scumbag: Inside the mind of YellowBounder.

What a glorious day it is today, oh whats this?!

FUCK IT. I can't stand defending this moron.

I'm scum, I want to die. Kill me.

Fuck you DJD.

Sorry Hiraki, I wanted to play a better game, but I can't stand him. Kill me, end my misery.

What is this I don't even

This townie has made my life so easy! I will just pretend I have no idea whats going on but make sure to avoid the wagon!

How unfortunate Salam and JD got lynched, oh well guess I better claim...

Snake and I.

Better check back later and post some content though otherwise I might look suspicious!

Arugula, Slandaar, and Jal were all voting for him before the fake claim. Aka scummy.

I tended to think that people that opportunistically jump on a bandwagon tended to be scummier? But yeah, in the face of the bogus scum claim, everything was null after that.

@GreyICE - What

exactly

are you accusing the TAM/Hiraki pair of?

Yes, that was good, I am quite proud of it.

I waffled a little bit about the people jumping on the wagon being opportunistic scumbags and the people jumping on the wagon being null but hopefully noone will notice.

HEY ASSHATS

TWO PEOPLE ARE CROSSVOTING IN LYLO

MOTHERFUCKING LYLO

DISCUSS

This is

really

not helpful.

@GreyICE Stop derping around and tell us what you're thinking.

Yes, please do.

@Slandaar - I admit that Snake's lurking so very heavily is anti-town, but there are far scummier people left alive.

Hohoho I am being helpful so I get to call others unhelpful and make it seem like I am town.

This Slandaar guy is starting to annoy me but hopefully I have persuaded him to leave Snake and I alone.

Will post again tomorrow, hit my quota of content posting today, that really was quite a good post.

Maybe you should use that caps lock to try and get yellow and B&B to post.

I'm sorry.

General off-topic and unhelpfulness.

Especially against JD.

Please, find me examples where I was unhelpful in the JD case. I spent most of my time trying to get clarification on his stated positions.

Hiraki, you seemed to be gunning for me the instant you hit the ground, complaining that I was defending Snake. Would you say I should have instead pushed my own lover under a bus?

Yellow/Snake own up you're scum.

What did you talk about in your qt pregame?

This, is an example of an unhelpful post. You've already claimed that me and Snake are a scumpair, you're just posting for the sake of it.

To be honest, in my eyes, it's a toss up between Hiraki/TAM, and Malee/Bridges as the pair I'd like to vote for.

More Hiraki/TAM, mostly because I haven't gotten a read on Bridges yet.

Actually lets freeze votes at the moment and just discuss things.

^ which is why I'm not voting them yet. Don't want scum to come along and quick lynch if it's the wrong pair.

Why is Slandaar asking me about what I talked about in my QT? so unhelpful! all these unhelpful people! I am being helpful though!

Yellow explain to me why Snake asked for an exact start time if he doesn't have a qt to post in?

I want a sensible explanation to explain someone asking for a start time then posting 0 content the whole game. It just makes no sense unless hes scum.

Snake I don't want you answering this, thanks.

So you're asking someone

other

than Snake to explain his behaviour? For that matter, you're asking someone who

mod-confirmed knows

he's town, so it's not like I'm suspecting dark hidden motives.

What do you expect to get out of this line of questioning, Slandaar? Seriously. Ask him.

Oh hes onto me I hate this Slandaar guy leave me alone!

Slandaar seems to think Snake has a QT to post in but he doesn't hes being so unhelpful and useless! maybe I can get him lynched hohoho.

Dear Diary

I voted Slandaar today, I am sure we have this game tied up now all I need to do is wait for the votes to roll in

This GreyICE fellow is sure to vote him because of this post
And look at what Nyal is posting! We are sure to get the town votes we need so I hopped on the wagon Here as soon as I could and now I am waiting for the victory!

Nyalite, you're a little mean.

But sans the sarcasm, your description of the QT stuff sums up my opinion quite nicely.

Im so happy I am about to win I will even include a little smiley!

But better add a little content, that qt stuff was terrible lol! I knew town had qt's lol of course I knew, I read the pms on the front page!

His posts aren't telling of alignment, and I'm starting to feel uncomfortable about that.

Don't worry, he went V/LA, that will help!

Nyalite, I'm starting to worry that my approval of your sarcasm barbs are clouding my ability to determine your alignment.

Also, change your horrible avatar.

Thank you for saying this, I think only a lover could soften the blow saying something like that.

Joking aside, I'm not entirely sure what other positions I could put forward?
I've already said: I think we should probably lynch Slandy Bridges or Tamriki.

Also, I just reread the thread again, and realised that Bridges was here from the start. For some reason, I thought he'd replaced in.

Another day and I am still happy as can be! everything is going well, post a little content for the day and off I go!

Also I better say I reread the thread again, that will sound town! hopefully noone will realise I did not bring up anything new or spot anything different to bring up against Sland except for the fact bridge was in the game since the start!

Noone will know I only read the first page

Noone!

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Intermission

So far we have analysed all of Yellows early day two posts up till when he votes Slandaar. A lot of scumhunting and content is present along with lots of good reasons why people are scum, no wonder hes so hard to lynch! He has even reread the entire thread!

Oh wait a second...

[Slandaar]

saying someone is scummier implies hes scummy

x is scummier than y implies x is still scummy.

[Slandaar]

Thats not what I am saying at all

[Slandaar]

My case on Yellow is actually pretty brilliant

'I reread the thread! I realised bridges was in the game since the start! see I must have reread it! Unfortunately I found no new information and pretty much wasted my time, but I reread the whole thread!'

[Slandaar]

Yellow why don't you vote TAM?

Everyone says its me/bridge with TAM/Hiraki, I mean it makes sense, I have been pushing the counterwagon all day etc etc.

You think I am scum

You think he is scum

Perfect right?

So, vote him.

[Slandaar]

I swear the days I spent refreshing the thread, nothing happens, and then when I go away for like 12 hours, suddenly POSTS.

I swear the days you don't refresh the thread coincidentally coincide with the days you should be posting

Also the VC stuff was pretty ridiculous I probably hammer TAM once Yellow votes

In fact; Yellow vote TAM in next post, I guarantee I will hammer as soon as I see it.

yes 4 teams on a wagon is pretty lol, but I dont mind

You in Yellow?

[Slandaar]

Why did you unvote Grey?

<-- Rational #2

[Slandaar]

What do you mean Yellow?

Why are you not voting TAM yellow?

Why am I a better vote?

[Slandaar]

You think hes scum right?

That VC stuff was pretty ridiculously scummy

So you vote him and I will straight after

Then will yell at bridge to hammer

Lets go

[Slandaar]

Noone else should post until Yellow does.

Do not diffuse.

[Slandaar]

I am voting you Yellow

Why are you not voting TAM? You think hes town? you think I am scum NOT with TAM/Hiraki and deciding to try and lynch TAM instead of stick on you the guy with 2 town votes? Ridiculous. I do not need to make crazy gambit in such a situation

Yellow is scum

Lynch him

[Slandaar]

Why are you not voting TAM yellow?

Why am I a better vote?

Good Dodge btw scumbag

Keep it up

You might slip away yet if people don't clue on

[Slandaar]

Lets go

Stop holding the game up Yellow

Vote TAM

[Slandaar]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: TAM

Hammer him Bridge

[Slandaar]

OK so if I am scum and TAM is town and Yellow is town so... I didn't need to do anything so I wouldn't as Yellow had the town votes I would need for victory.

And you think I decided to force a lynch when I don't need to? seems like a terribly risky and pointless maneuver where I gain nothing... deadline = autowin for me there.

Also TAM is so scummy its ridiculous and Yellow is obvscum lynching anyone else is retarded.

[Slandaar]

I think deadline is tomorrow btw

Considering the fact Yellow and CDB have BOTH managed to VANISH since the recent happenings making them beyond obvscum...

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Yellow

Thats it

Vote stays

If you are town vote Yellow. Anywhere else and town can't win.

also;
Bridge: Vote Yellow.

[Slandaar]

I wish Bridge were more active

Bridge ignore last post

Vote TAM when you get on, you know Grey/Nyal wont hammer

I need to show something.

[Slandaar]

But then you need to actually be active and move vote after

[Slandaar]

Wait bridge hasn't posted in 4 days...

@Mod: Please replace Bridge

(Sorry Bridge but I will always love you!)

Warning to new lover:

You will be my sheep.

[Slandaar]

OK GREY AND NYAL

I can't prove it yet as Bridge hasn't posted, but when he does he will prove beyond doubt it cannot be Aru/Sland team (TAM would be town and bridge would hammer)

YOU THEN NEED TO MOVE OFF ARU ONTO YELLOW

If you think Aru is scum then the only logical conclusion to a buddy in said scenario is Yellow.

If you then rethink TAM is scum, with who? Aru? no, me? no I just shifted 2 town off a town wagon, Its too much effort and ridiculous to do that. so its only leaves Yellow (very unlikely but possible distancing)

When this happens you 2 need to get on Yellow

He is confscum at that point

Literally.

Lynch him.

THAT IS THE PLAN

FOLLOW IT.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: TAM

BRIDGE ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS POST TO SAY YOU SEE TAM IS L-1 THEN VOTE YELLOW, DO NOT BOTHER CATCHING UP JUST SHEEP ME

TAM you need to revote Yellow also.

[Slandaar]

so Grey made a castiron case on Hiraki as buddies?

eh no.

[Slandaar]

Tell you what Aru

Tell me why Yellow/CDB are town

[Slandaar]

I suppose from your POV it does make sense.

But why not Bridge and I instead of Grey/Nyal?

[Slandaar]

Yellow could be scum though

It is tough
TAM is so ridiculously scummy.
Yellow seems like obvscum...

You need to sell me a TAM/Grey team over a Aru/Yellow or TAM/Yellow team.

Why isn't Yellow scum? surely his lurkerderp antics only come from scum?

[Slandaar]

OK

Now Yellow needs to put his case forward as to why I should vote TAM/Hiraki.

[Slandaar]

Hiraki vote Aru?

[Slandaar]

ITT: Sland vs the world; Sland winning.

I vote TAM so when Bridge posts he doesn't hammer confirming beyond any doubt that Sland and Aru cannot be buddies.

We then know
Sland can only be scum with... TAM/Hiraki, this is a fact.

Grey/Nyal think Aru is scum, Arus only possible buddy in said situation is Yellow/CDB so they move to Yellow because...

Yellow CDB can be scum with TAM/Hiraki still due to how weakly they have tried to push it and due to them having to basically distance hard as they were the two pairs under the most heat.

So Then Bridge votes Yellow, Grey votes Yellow, Nyal votes Yellow, Tam votes Yellow and Finally Sland hammers the scumbag Yellow for victory.

Need more explaining how you are about to lose if Bridge posts Yellow?

Also I don't mind a TAM lynch terribly so whatever Grey/Nyal can hammer there if they want.

Bridge needs to post though or town just autolose.

[Slandaar]

Also Grey is lurking which makes me want to lynch TAM

But eh, its close, still think Yellow is the lynch of choice

[Slandaar]

Yellow talk to me

Tell me why you voted TAM

[Slandaar]

Also do you seriously think I am scum?

[Slandaar]

OK Grey

Show me what you mean

and I will consider voting Aru

[Slandaar]

Well Bridge isnt posting and town can't win without him

I can't move vote now so just hammer TAM if you do post Bridge, I would vote Yellow but no guarantee that will get 3 other votes too late in the day just gamble it on TAM.

Otherwise you 'townies' best option is to lynch me because...
When I am town, town cannot win, so you need to gamble on me being scum because its the only way you can win if you are town (from your POV). I am town ergo it makes no difference but that is the only way you other townies can win theoretically due to Bridge.

I expect you can get 6 votes on me with this logic pretty easy, the lurker scum will jump out the woodwork for it.

But still, that is your only option unless Grey/Nyal want to gamble hammer TAM but assuming they did that TAM will flip town most of the time it just amounts to gambling on scum running a hardcore gambit.

[Slandaar]

I VOTED TAM SO THAT WHEN BRIDGE POSTED AND DIDNT HAMMER IT PROVED THAT

1. ARU AND SLAND CANNOT BE SCUM TOGETHER
2. SLAND AND YELLOW CANNOT BE SCUM TOGETHER
(GREY AND SLAND OBV COULDNT)

SO ONLY SLAND/TAM WAS POSSIBLE

HOW IS THIS HARD TO WORK OUT?

THIS THEN COMPLETELY BLOWS THE ARU/SLAND THEORY MEANING ARU ONLY WORKS WITH YELLOW

THEREFORE I FORCE GREY/NYAL TO VOTE YELLOW AS ITS THE LOGICAL VOTE AT THAT POINT

END.

Really though without bridge posting it ruined the game, I was town obviously ergo he was. Town cant win without him, pointless game.

[Slandaar]

I think he should have been replaced when I asked to avoid this but thats another matter, he wasnt, if Nyal is town I would be surprised as should have gamble hammered as any lynch > nolynch for town

[Slandaar]

also: I realised I was wrong re scumslip on JD the day his buddy scumclaimed I would have unvoted if no scumclaim but I saw scmclaim and that was that

[Slandaar]

Bridge

Deadline was 5hours ago

[Slandaar]

You needed to be around 3 days ago where I basically started shaking the game into the final wagons, but the trouble was without you to prove we are not scum with Aru things couldn't progress so game stalled out till deadline

Grey lurking probably means it was TAM/Grey team especially after no Nyal hammer but there you go.

The game should have got to the state where;
TAM: Aru/Yellow
Yellow: Grey/TAM

Then us deciding who to lynch.

[Slandaar]

The reason you hammer is because

1. I can be scum gambitting
2. Yellow and TAM can be buddies

Its not going to work often, but it gives you infinitely more chance to win than nolynch.

The whiteknight stuff was because I was annoyed at sala for claiming scum as town and literally wasting a lynch then you berating about it, you were whiteknighting the fact you hadn't voted him after a scumclaim, it was pretty ridiculous. Yellow couldn't be scum because he didn't vote him? stupidity, its plain whiteknighting.

You vote yellow if Aru is top scumspect because; (after bridge posts)
Aru buddies:
Cannot be me
Cannot be TAM
Cannot be You obv

leaves Yellow

So you vote Yellow because if Aru is scum its with Yellow ergo you are voting scum still, but Yellow can be scum with TAM

You vote Yellow in case of shenanigans its just a strictly better vote and you MUST take strictly better votes when available.

I mean it was complicated to follow, I know, but it wasn't magic logic.

Everyone seems like scum this game, the thing is Nyal is new and I think a lot of her scummyness is newbness...

I would not be surprised of a Yellow/TAM team and this is the exact reason they needed to be the 2 wagons not Aru who was basically linked to Yellow.

I would have lynched Yellow obv.

[Slandaar]

I will probably not post again in this thread as it annoys me too much.
Game was ruined when Bridge flaked the 6 days at deadline, town literally couldn't win which is obviously bs and completely ruins the game. He should have been replaced to avoid this.

And that's all I will say on it.

[Slandaar]

My logic was correct
'Others' don't see it as correct
I should reevaluate?

I mean it was obvious Yellow and Snake had no clue town had qt's. Reread that section, after that I knew town were doomed as if that didn't get a lynch nothing would. So just tried to force the wagons I wanted but Bridge didn't post -> town couldn't win -> ruined game.

[Slandaar]

What did you talk about in your qt pregame?

Does not Answer

Sign 1 that they have no clue.

Trying to pretend you don't have a qt?

Implying town do not have qt it reads as 'are you trying to pretend you are town with no qt?'

Sign 2

Yellow explain to me why Snake asked for an exact start time if he doesn't have a qt to post in?

Implying again town do not have a qt 'If snake does not have a qt, why did he need a start time?'

Like why if they knew, did they not say 'we have a qt'

Again they do not pick up on it

I literally nailed them to the wall and town derped around with the 'well the pms are on page 1' but... who actually reads the pms on the first page? noone.

[Slandaar]

OK so you were just scum who knew I was town and reacted in a completely 100% scum way to what I was saying due to perfect information ie knowing I know town have qts

I mean those were the only 2 possibles, there was 0 chance of being town after that zero.

[Slandaar]

Town win if bridge gets replaced 2 days ago
I almost guarantee it
Which is why its so annoying.

I would have voted Aru over TAM as Aru was very very likely Yellows buddy. I only leave vote on TAM as I know if Bridge fails to show(and I expected him not to show) town cannot win without bussing and there was only one wagon with bussing potential.