FF7 Mafia (Game Over)

pirate mollie · Thu Sep 03, 2015 11:56 am

In post 4215, The Antagonist wrote:
In post 4211, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 4205, The Antagonist wrote:mollie target cerb

its kinda amusing you scum read us when we are for lynchign mastin also

where is your saint vote?

see you complain that you are being ignored when the reason I personally am ignoring and taking what you say with a grain of salt cos you are so disconnected from the game it isn't funny and you say you are disengaged cos you are being ignored. :/

its a catch 22 with an easy remedy

you asked for my imput on the nk spec and i gave it to you and you decide that is nothing?

reall mollie? this kind of shit is extly why i get disengaged with the fucking game, people dont even give jack shit about my thoughts, my imput, my efforts, my anyhitng.

so you wanted my imput and then you decide to ignore it? like really mollie? like you should knwo that is the easiest way for me to get diengaged form a damn game

what you said is nothing new that has not already been said. so your input is nothing so nothing that needs to be commented on since some of this discussion literally happened ages ages ago.

what is there to say but "yeah I already said that" when if you read the game you wld already have known. :/

pirate mollie · Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:21 pm

In post 4219, The Antagonist wrote:
In post 4218, pirate mollie wrote:

what you said is nothing new that has not already been said. so your input is nothing so nothing that needs to be commented on since some of this discussion literally happened ages ages ago.

what is there to say but "yeah I already said that" when if you read the game you wld already have known. :/

...........

mollie why is mastin town in any way at this point. why is saint sucm outside of your jkign ability right now.

why are you not helping us lynch cerb instead when you agree on the said specualtions?

mastina is a townread of mine <------ I don't care what you pple say, if jaqen can cough up a quantifiable reason as to why mastina is scum based off a tracker claim then no, I trust my ability to read her over yours. you freaking lynched her in graveyard based on

a fake cop claim turned lynch target and the "lyncher" turned out to be scum

<------ this happened in a game that I was in. and you were 1 of the 1s who was pushing her lynch!

why wld I help with cerb when I have stated that fresh's replace out looked town to me, do you remember why he replaced out? cos he felt ignored. does that sound like scum to you? cos in a pt he wld have his scummates to keep him company NOT MENTION AS SCUM YOU KIND OF WANT TO BE IGNORED.

the only thing that bugs me about cerb is his overly cautiousness with voting saint when saint only has 1 vote.

you give me another scenario where there is no scum!saint.

1. there is a missing nk
2. the doc skipped their protect (bad guy BAD!)
3. I jked them

when you decide to employ critical thinking to the current gamestate and the application of previous actions/flips and the knowledge that we have then we can have a convo. otherwise this particular line of discussion will lead nowhere.

pirate mollie · Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:23 pm

oh there were xposts

pirate mollie · Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:33 pm

@ cerb - this is not the time to check out cos I am not entirely certain that I will be able to swing this lynch on saint who I think is legitimate scum. I think you are overreacting to ika and mine's exchanges which is kind of weird to me!

@ ika - there is literally noting else I can say to you cos circular arguments are circular. you are trying to seem engaged by posting stuff that was covered ages ago and now we have NEW AND EXCITING INFO THAT PROBS POINTS TO SCUM you ignore it and then complain about being ignored.

like there is nothing that I can add in a meaningful way to this. take a breather and look at all of the info in front of you.

pirate mollie · Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:37 pm

In post 4228, hiplop wrote:Mollie you were in graveyard shift? I don't remember that

I was in the herself hydra. kuribo gave the best rundown of my town meta this site has ever seen other than the indie meta that nacho provided in you cld be any1. you were so nonexistent in that game that is why I am townreading you here!

pirate mollie · Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:49 pm

I feel like the new info shld change some things, ika. it certainly did for me.

you don't suck as a person or as a player ika, I am just frustrated with you. I really think it wld help you if you started doing spreadsheets in larges.

pirate mollie · Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:34 pm

In post 4239, The Antagonist wrote:
In post 4233, pirate mollie wrote:I feel like the new info shld change some things, ika. it certainly did for me.

you don't suck as a person or as a player ika, I am just frustrated with you. I really think it wld help you if you started doing spreadsheets in larges.

well it didnt. i mean what part of my reads should change?

i still have never once town read saint. i still think mastin is either VI or scum. cerb can still be scum based on setup.

like i dont get what changed for you thats should change for me.

if you never townread saint then why have you not pushed him or supported my push on him and why the reluctance in voting him now.

it changed things for me cos it clarified things wrt nka and poe. and i am really confused as to why it did not change anything for you.

pirate mollie · Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:05 am

In post 4270, Radja wrote:or:

5) Mollie was the NK target, and I protected her?

that accounts for n1 but according to you your slot submitted no na on n3

pirate mollie · Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:22 am

In post 4294, Seiko x Naomi wrote:I still don't understand why we are flat out ignoring a guilty because someone's proclaiming themselves conftown without actually backing it up.

it is nota guilty, it is a tracker claim in which we can't even wrangle out of jaqen if he even traced mastina to a dead body or not.

pirate mollie · Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:52 am

In post 4297, ProHawk wrote:Mollie, he said it was a 100% guilty stop being obtuse

a tracker claim is not 100%

pirate mollie · Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:05 am

In post 4299, ProHawk wrote:He said he is more than a normal tracker, not to mention the second cop result hasn't been accounted for. I hope mastin gets cross killed but it's probably unlikely.

when you say "second cop result" are you referring to bulba's on zzthing?

pirate mollie · Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:33 am

In post 4301, The Antagonist wrote:
In post 4300, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 4299, ProHawk wrote:He said he is more than a normal tracker, not to mention the second cop result hasn't been accounted for. I hope mastin gets cross killed but it's probably unlikely.

when you say "second cop result" are you referring to bulba's on zzthing?

no hes refering to ceph, he was a 2 shot

mollie why are you disregading the tracker alothgether. i mean you knwo tommorw unless amstin cliams i doubt there will be any other lycnhes going though

there are so many things wrong with this post I am not sure where I shld even begin.

cephrir died n2.

jaqen lied about his track results n2 and n3 wrt mastina and I cos he thought I was trying to "trap him".

but lets clear stuff up cos I think the majority of the speshuls have outed.

HEY JAQEN DID YOU RECEIVE A GUILTY ON MASTINA FROM CEPHRIR OR IS IT REALLY A TRACKER RESULT LIKE YOU KEEP INSISTING THAT IT IS COS IKA THINKS OTHERWISE AND THINKS THAT IS WHAT HAWK BOY MEANS

pirate mollie · Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:34 am

In post 4302, Saint wrote:I am 100% town and we CANNOT afford a mislynch but go ahead and lynch me i'm a vanilla townie

we are actually in pretty good shape or at least I thought we were

pirate mollie · Mon Sep 07, 2015 11:21 am

I don't think mastina wld nk some1 who townread her

pirate mollie · Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:37 pm

mastina I am losing faith here.

pirate mollie · Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:59 pm

also i jked cerebus.

pirate mollie · Mon Sep 07, 2015 5:53 pm

In post 4361, The Antagonist wrote:....

well i dunno how to feel about the jk...... im kinda kicking myself for telling you that idea but oh well...

VOTE: mastin

mollie did you read how jaquin role works?

In post 4362, The Antagonist wrote:and before you acidently misiterpret it mollie, no i am not blaming you one bit for that jk.

I don't even understand what these 2 posts mean.

jaqen flipped modified tracker but his mod specs were not revealed or am I am missing something? unless you mean he got a guilty if some1 made an nk or something.

and what do you mean "not blame me for the jk"?

pirate mollie · Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:05 pm

pirate mollie · Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:54 am

anti scum!mastina just doesn't make sense to me. unless the redirector (if we have 1) is town. I just don't see scum!mastina nking kaboose.

also you need to tell ika to get a grip. I am not losing just because ika decides to have a meltdown and gets retarded at endgame.

pirate mollie · Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:57 am

In post 4452, Radja wrote:I can't find Jaqen's tracking result. Can anyone help me out here...

n1 the antagoist
n2 me
n3 mastina

and I forget who he targeted n4

pirate mollie · Tue Sep 08, 2015 3:37 pm

I forgot that psychlone said they protected cephrir. hhhmmm...

eta: @ anti - cerebus

pirate mollie · Tue Sep 08, 2015 4:04 pm

VOTE: radja

pirate mollie · Tue Sep 08, 2015 4:58 pm

I thought they looked town when they reached out to me and we were ironing out reads but I don't like the activity drop-off or the inconsistency with their claimed night action n3.

pirate mollie · Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:40 pm

UNVOTE:

i am gonna sleep on it

pirate mollie · Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:52 am

In post 4555, The Antagonist wrote:mollie, where are you? i need your help.

I am here but I am going to be cooking and cleaning all day cos esurio is coming over.

pirate mollie · Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:22 pm

In post 4568, Antihero wrote:hey mastin

just in case it HASN'T sunk in yet for you

it's you or radja today. that's all that's going to happen. i'm trying to get around your derp because i'm figuring once radja flips scum you'll finally snap out of it, but i need that shove.

i know it's not what you want to hear. but with mollie gone awol and cerberus and xtoxm looking like they're not listening to me it's not looking great so now i'm having to hardball this.

uh, I have not gone awol? wtf is this shit. I don't post for a few hours cos OMG OCCASIONALLY I HAVE A SOCIAL LIFE and suddenly I have gone awol???

pirate mollie · Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:26 pm

I am not liking antagonist

pirate mollie · Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:44 pm

anti why are you deliberately posting outside of your hydra?

eta: I am not helping you guys lynch mastina.

pirate mollie · Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:07 pm

In post 4597, Radja wrote:Ugh... I'll give you my full claim. Maybe it'll clear things up.

I wanted to protect Pirate Mollie, but I can't, because I can't protect the same target consecutively.

I am Tseng(one of the Turks), Town Non-Consecutive-Target Doctor

Thank you mastin, for being the guy with common sense.

I should probably do some reading... I have no clue what is going on.

I was wondering if your slot had some kind of inhibitor just going off of my own role.

ika, I hear you, I am thinking.

pirate mollie · Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:21 pm

theoretically I feel like mastina is the best lynch, its just if she is scum i can't believe that I have misread her all of this time

eta: xposts

pirate mollie · Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:30 pm

no. I just don't like it.

occam's says that either there

has

to be either a scum redirector or mastina is scum. its just if there was a redirector I wld THINK we wld have seen evidence of it by now.

eta: yes anti i get your hang up

pirate mollie · Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:20 am

notty we are not lynching hippy today

pirate mollie · Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:52 pm

mastina what did your vca look like again?

pirate mollie · Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:38 am

In post 4360, pirate mollie wrote:also i jked cerebus.

pirate mollie · Wed Sep 16, 2015 8:21 pm

mastina

I don't know what to say or what to do here. you have a guilty on your head from a flipped tracker an I am struggling to see how you are anything but scum here. gutwise you feel very town to me, I can't explain i in a way that other pple wld understand, its just how you feel inside my head and it feels town. I wldn't put it past jaqen to fake a guilty on you but he seemed to really believe it. I feel like if there was a redirector we wld have seen evidence of it by now?

late game is not my strong suit, I don't usually last this long in games and whenever i have it doesn't usually end super well hu2 was the exception. I still feel like notty is town, I still feel like ika wld not be reaching out to me THIS much as scum if he is scum then I am impressed. I have hippy as strong town, we have kind of bonded over things that have nothing to do with mafia so I have a sense of a baseline for his personality and how he thinks plus I went and looked at graveyard and the level of participation and engagement here is waaaaaaaaaaay different compared to that game. he just lurked and wld make bullshit posts and here he is genuinely trying to figure things out.

I have never ever mislynched you and I don't ever want to. but I am looking at my spreadsheet, I am looking at the flips and I am looking at the guilty and it looks pretty damning! I am worried that I reading you as town because I

want

to read you as town. I looked at inorganic and I wld be lying if I didn't say that there are definitely some similarities between your play there and your play its just meta pattern matching is not how I read you. it WORRIES me that I am not dead yet cos t makes me feel like my reads are very very wrong. I think I have had good town reads but my scumdar and isn't at its full strength in this game; sometimes it happens. but I have been on a crazy town winning streak, out of the last 15 games that I have been town in town has won 13 of them. I wld like to win this 1.

pirate mollie · Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:03 am

cerberus is 1 shot bp
xotme is some kind of sensor
the antagonist is vt
I am jk

I don't think there are any other claims. mastina keeps soft-claiming but won't say what it is.

if you have any fresh thoughts I am all ears cos I am tired of staring at my spreadsheet and this game and recycling the same thoughts in my head.

pirate mollie · Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:56 am

In post 4797, Radja wrote:What's "some kind of sensor"?

Can I get a character claim from you mollie?

I'd like mastin to explain how he was tracked to a nightkill victim.

I don't fully understand the sensor role it seems like they are able to sense whether or not more than 1 scumteam on a wagon but then I am confused as to why aeris didn't sensor the fss lynch.

cid

jaqen did not say that he had tracked mastina to a nk, if he did I wld have put more stock in it.

pirate mollie · Thu Sep 17, 2015 7:48 am

In post 4800, Cerberus v666 wrote:Mollie, it's pretty obvious that's what he meant. Given her VT claim, it he tracked her ANYWHERE, even not to a nk victim, that's still incredibly suspicious.

I know I forgot about the vt claim cos I didn't add it to my spreadsheet.

and yes it is really damning. I just think if jaqen tracked mastina to a dead body he wld have explicitly said it.

I don't see how it can be any1 other than mastina but I think I need to look at when jaqen claimed cos I thought it was after claiming a guilty on mastina. I don't see a redirector targeting jaqen with other juicier targets on the table or am I not understanding correctly how the redirector role works.

pirate mollie · Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:51 am

In post 4826, mastin2 wrote:(Btw, fun fact.

As scum, I may hold contempt to a player, since as scum I know they're not scum and yet are doing the things they are anyway, but I always keep said thoughts to the scum topic, since posting them in-thread is shooting myself in the foot.
I will often be diplomatic about it, since while I know they're not scum, I try to see their perspective.

As town, I openly will not hold back my ire and hatred, since while I may not know if they're scum or not, I don't have a topic to vent in, so in-thread it goes, very vocal, and the only semblance of diplomacy you'll see from me is a disclaimer along the lines of, "Of course, I take it all back if you're scum, in which case, good job". You hold no reason to know this true now, but it is, and has been shown throughout my games. I am very much not afraid to be a royal bitch if I feel someone deserves a bitchslap, and half this fucking town most certainly does.)

wrt the bold: this is not entirely true mastina. I have seen you go heavily off on a player as scum.

pirate mollie · Sat Sep 19, 2015 4:14 pm

@ mastina

it was the molliegeddon game where you went off on guyett. not that he didn't deserve it but I have seen you go off on a player as scum.

I am struggling with you implying you had a way to confirm yourself as town but are now claiming vt and the tracker guilty result. jaqen said that you used a factional ability that night.

pirate mollie · Sun Sep 20, 2015 12:12 am

I a sorry mastina

VOTE: prohawk

pirate mollie · Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:44 am

I am here hippy

pirate mollie · Wed Sep 23, 2015 7:42 pm

that is horseshit radja antagonist claimed while you were around, we have been over this

guys don't rush this shit. give me a minute to think.

pirate mollie · Wed Sep 23, 2015 7:43 pm

also I freaking told you pple mastina was town

pirate mollie · Wed Sep 23, 2015 7:45 pm

why wld scum nk xotme he was as useful as a third nipple

pirate mollie · Wed Sep 23, 2015 7:47 pm

I don't understand what I am looking at

pirate mollie · Wed Sep 23, 2015 7:53 pm

In post 2280, borkjerfkin wrote:
Votecount 1.19 (Final)

[12]
Titus
(Seiko x Naomi,
Saint
, hiplop,
mastin2
,
TheIrishPope
,
Bulbazak
,
singersigner
, pirate mollie, The Antagonist, Prohawk,
Varsoon
,
Kaboose
)

[6] Seiko x Naomi (Feysal, Flubbernugget, Titus, Fresh, Scorpious, Jaqen Hghar)
[2] Psychlone (Aeris, CB)
[1] Fresh (Psychlone)
[1] Jaqen Hghar (ZZZX)
[1] mastin2 (free stool sample)

With 23 alive, it is 12 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

A lynch has been reached. Flip incoming after dealing with stupid kid crap gimme a bit

this is d1. it looks like the titus lynch was mostly town driven.

pirate mollie · Wed Sep 23, 2015 7:54 pm

In post 4995, Seiko x Naomi wrote:i'm warning you all in advance, if i see people speculating that this isn't LYLO i'm parking my vote on hawk and calling it a day

i'm not risking anyone doing something dumb and allowing scum to quick hammer

can you plz calm down and just breathe for a second, I am not going to freak out on you but I need a clear head on you just calm down.

pirate mollie · Wed Sep 23, 2015 7:57 pm

In post 2284, borkjerfkin wrote:
The man called Dyne stood over a ravine in the Corel desert as he had many times before.

He did not weep for his lost family; he had long past became bereft of the empathy required for such an act.
The burning hatred for those that led to the downfall of his town had similarly subsided with time.

And that was how he knew that his own time had come.

Rather than make a big deal of it, he simply walked off into the distance from the prison yard. The guards cared little about anyone venturing off North -- there wasn't anything in that direction for miles other than sand and heat. If anyone was to escape, it would have to be via the Gold Saucer.

No one noticed when one day he just didn't come back.

So he stood, minutes turning into hours, and allowed himself a few more moments of peace, quiet contemplation, and, for the first time in many many years, hope that he might be reunited with his family soon.

Flubbernugget was killed Night 1.

Flubbernugget was
Dyne

Aligned with
The Planet [Town 2-Shot Arsonist]

Day 2 begins now.

why was flubber nked on n1?

pirate mollie · Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:05 pm

In post 3162, borkjerfkin wrote:
Votecount 2.8 (Final)

[11] free stool sample (
Scorpious
, Cerberus v666, pirate mollie,
Varsoon
, The Antagonist,
Jaqen Hghar
, hiplop,
TheIrishPope
,
Saint
,
Kaboose
,
free stool sample
)
[2] Kaboose (Psychlone, Seiko x Naomi)
[1] ProHawk (mastin2)
[1] Varsoon (Prohawk)

[6] Not Voting (Aeris, Cephrir, ZZZX, singersigner, Bulbazak, Feysal)

With 21 alive, it is 11 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

A lynch has been reached. Flip incoming.

where is team meteor during all this. you wld think they wld be slobbering all over themselves at the other scum team's lynch.

pirate mollie · Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:06 pm

okay sorry I screwed that post up I will fix it later I kinda feel like it is important

pirate mollie · Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:08 pm

anti i really wld like to talk to you

pirate mollie · Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:24 pm

In post 4993, Seiko x Naomi wrote:
In post 4986, hiplop wrote:@seiko, doesn't 4 scum alive right now seem like an awful lot? I don't think it being lylo makes much sense. Explain, though?

NOPE, NOPE, NOPE, FUCKING NOPE.

2 mafia + a traitor isn't balanced against 3 PRs, even if they are all rather weak. on the other hand, i *could* see something like 2 goons + pr + traitor vs. 3 prs, and i think this is the only way it really makes sense tbh. it also makes the most sense based on the size of the setup (23p).

i think this is you attempting to set up a surprise LYLO

mebbe I am slow, but can you walk me through this just a teensy bit more

pirate mollie · Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:55 pm

pirate mollie · Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:52 am

we are not lynching hippy

ika freaking no

pirate mollie · Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:00 am

hippy is town.

pirate mollie · Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:10 am

In post 5048, Seiko x Naomi wrote:i have literally 0 idea why you're defending him so hard, btw, given he's done nothing town recently and you haven't explained why

how I feel about hippy is how I felt about mastina.

I don't feel like any1 is listening to me. like at all.

and I feel like shit for not defending mastina more. I knew she was town I FREAKING KNEW IT

pirate mollie · Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:48 am

cerb i will get back to you on this, just give me a few days plz.

v/la for a cple days until i feel better

pirate mollie · Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:18 am

just passing through with a picket sign *hawk boy is scum*

seiko, agonist, hippy, I am here to talk. but I have worked it out a million times over and hawk boy HAS to be scum.

pirate mollie · Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:34 am

In post 5099, Radja wrote:Hiplop/ Prohawk/ Mollie

I really don't get why Mollie is alive.

okay

I jked on a night where there was no nk.

your slot has supposedly been protecting me for most the time.

VOTE: radja

pirate mollie · Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:59 am

In post 5101, Cerberus v666 wrote:Umm, that's not true. He hasn't stated that his slot hs protected you most of the time. He's protected you at most twice (the first night he said he did it, and then either last night or the night before, if he was lying about the antagonist thing in order to allow him to protect elsewhere because scum would know he could protect you.)

There's not a good reason why you're still alive, other than the fact that I, for example, probably wouldn't kill you simply because I haven't been here long enough to be aware of your reputation. But after this game? I'd probably view you as a greater threat. And scum members don't exist in isolation , it would require a meteor team which simply had no knowledge of you, or who just gave up on trying to kill you after the first failure.

he is a claimed non-consecutive doc.

THERE WERE NKS THAT WERE MISSED COS THAT SLOT SAID THEY PROTECTED ME. I THOUGH IT WAS DUE TO MY JK BUT SAINT FLIPPED TOWN AND I THINK ANTI IS SCUM ALTHO I AM KIND OF PARANOID RIGHT NOW COS THEY ARE AVOIDING ME WHEN WE SHLD BE WORKING TOGETHER. I THINK IT MIGHT BE HAWK BOY AND RADJA BUT I AM NOT SURE.

I am confused as to why this is so hard to understand.

pirate mollie · Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:03 am

In post 5109, ika wrote:
In post 4972, The Antagonist wrote:
In post 4202, Radja wrote:

N1: pirate mollie
N2: Scorpious
N3: was not submitted
N4: pirate mollie

In post 4597, Radja wrote:

I am Tseng(one of the Turks),
Town Non-Consecutive-Target Doctor

got the relevant shit

he coundlt of done a night 2 action, thus an inconsitecny

WAIT WHAT

what am I missing

pirate mollie · Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:05 am

In post 5113, Radja wrote:
In post 5110, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 5101, Cerberus v666 wrote:Umm, that's not true. He hasn't stated that his slot hs protected you most of the time. He's protected you at most twice (the first night he said he did it, and then either last night or the night before, if he was lying about the antagonist thing in order to allow him to protect elsewhere because scum would know he could protect you.)

There's not a good reason why you're still alive, other than the fact that I, for example, probably wouldn't kill you simply because I haven't been here long enough to be aware of your reputation. But after this game? I'd probably view you as a greater threat. And scum members don't exist in isolation , it would require a meteor team which simply had no knowledge of you, or who just gave up on trying to kill you after the first failure.

he is a claimed non-consecutive doc.

THERE WERE NKS THAT WERE MISSED COS THAT SLOT SAID THEY PROTECTED ME. I THOUGH IT WAS DUE TO MY JK BUT SAINT FLIPPED TOWN AND I THINK ANTI IS SCUM ALTHO I AM KIND OF PARANOID RIGHT NOW COS THEY ARE AVOIDING ME WHEN WE SHLD BE WORKING TOGETHER. I THINK IT MIGHT BE HAWK BOY AND RADJA BUT I AM NOT SURE.

I am confused as to why this is so hard to understand.

If you are scum, you could have used your JK on anyone really. Including the other team. There's no reason why you couldn't be lying about your target.

except i am not lying. and I am not scum.

pirate mollie · Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:46 am

In post 5122, Cerberus v666 wrote:Also, mollie there are lots of potential reasons for missed kills. There are missing kills on N1, N3, and technically N6, since there is a. Nonzero chance that shinra remains (although I think that would mean the PoE pool is still alive, and I'm the last one in said PoE pool (I think?),So that means shinra is dead). N1 and 3 missing kills can be explained by doc save, jailkept scum, jailkept target, or shot at someone BP. N3 missing kill can be further explained by the roleblock inventor. Redirection is also in play, which would be an argument for why you're alive, except it's clearly scum redirection, which only protects you if you're scum. So, to get to my point. We have 2 missing kills. N3 there was no roleblock in play, and the doctor protected you. That might explain that. But scum have had plenty of other nights to shoot at you, and they haven't . Why is a real mystery to me. I'm kinda rambling now.

I know there are different potential reasons for missed nks I have laid them out

ad nauseam

.

my play has been pretty town motivated, do you think disagree?

I am trying not to freak out and blow this, cos this is at a point in the game where I am at my weakest. I don't what is going on. I don't why I am still alive like WHY IS THAT EVEN A THING.

I think mastina was right about hawk boy. I don't have much to go on except based off my role and the info that I have. which isn't much! at least not to go from here.

I asked for a massclaim but no1 cared. I have your claim and antagonist's and radja's (which looks squiffy to me). 1 reason I might be alive is cos my reads are wrong which they might be! that is why I am not in a rush cos I keep hoping to have that lightbulb moment where suddenly the game gets clearer.

I am NOT endgamed very often and I kind of regret asking for protection in the first place I sure as hell wld not have done it if I thought I wld have ended up here. my later game play SUCKS this isn't newz to any1 who knows AND GUESS WHO MIGHT KNOW THAT WHY HELLO PROHAWK.

I don't want to get worried about notty I am just not ready for that. I don't think ika wld be this emo as scum. but I don't know! mebbe I need to revisit but there is no freaking way I am doing this w/o a box of tissues. and therapy.

later i will try to post what i have from my spreadsheet even tho i got nothing from it (I srsly thought saint was scum) but I am low energy right now and I am just responding to posts.

I am sorry if I am letting you down cerb.

but if you are scum hell will hath no fury like a woman who mislaid her trust.

pirate mollie · Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:50 am

In post 5127, Radja wrote:I'd like to look back at this post now. Why was there no second kill here?
Bulletproof?
I'm not sure if Cerb had claimed at this point?

you aren't even remotely paying attention are you

pirate mollie · Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:58 am

In post 5131, Cerberus v666 wrote:Yep. Scum bulletproof is perfectly reasonable reasonable in multiball.

that is why pple have been suspicious of your slot but I think fresh's replace out looked town and have said. sorry but I trust my own judgment more than I do you guys when it comes to determining the difference between town flail and scum flail cos you guys suck at it. fresh was townflailing.

hippy is town cos I have a sense of hippy and how he navigates games and i am not going there.

I think it is radja and hawk boy and I will spam this thread until we lynch 1 of them cos even tho my endgame is 50-50 there is no way I can suck this bad.

pirate mollie · Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:00 am

I want a vacation

pirate mollie · Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:01 am

I mean if you think that I am scum just say it cerb, don't pussyfoot around!

pirate mollie · Mon Sep 28, 2015 1:55 pm

In post 5141, The Antagonist wrote:
In post 5129, hiplop wrote:I don't think I can get behind the idea of a saint night kill, honestly. That's the key reason I think cerb is town fwiw

crosskills never happen in multiballs.

ever.

wat

pirate mollie · Mon Sep 28, 2015 1:58 pm

anti what is going on with you?

pirate mollie · Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:48 pm

In post 5150, The Antagonist wrote:
In post 5145, The Antagonist wrote:...PREFERABLY before mollie freaks out on me for absolutely no reason.

i'm sorry mollie, that was pretty douche-y...

i'm pretty certain you and hiplop are town. pieguy is another townread but that's just kind of because i want to and i don't know if it's great but it is what it is.

just based on the disconnected, snipey play and the claims that just don't add up, i think the best lead is radja. if it feels like i'm repeating myself a lot it's because i am, but that's really it.

the other floaters are cerb and prohawk and i'm thinking it's cerb over prohawk but if you ask me again tomorrow i could think differently. in terms of raw role interactions, a bp kinda' doesn't make sense w/ a non-consecutive doc (but i don't know if that's the real role or if the role is bullshit altogether or what yet so i want the radja flip first)

well I

was

going to freak out on you, bp is not a bullshit role I am not understanding you here

pirate mollie · Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:38 pm

In post 5159, ProHawk wrote:Mollie. Question. I need an answer please.

In post 5147, ProHawk wrote:Mollie and anti. Your top three targets please

why are you asking me this?

targets for what?

and I am sorry but i don't trust you!

pirate mollie · Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:59 pm

I am not gonna lie, I reread hawk's reach and it felt kinda genuine.

I don't...understand pie's reaction. at all.

still think radja is scum he looks like scum who has given up.

pirate mollie · Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:29 am

In post 5237, ProHawk wrote:Mollie, you have me and Radja as scum. Who is the third? And what order please? Also I don't think Cerb has responded yet either

I have not been really sold on a 3 scum left theory so I have been working from the premise of a 2 player scumteam remaining. seiko has a point that so far mod meta points to a symmetrical scumteam distribution but it has be a fad to do asymmetrical scumteams and I wld just love a scum flip today.

I will give a more comprehensive list hopefully later. I don't trust you hawk boy and if you are town I am not sure who I can trust. I don't think that I am wrong about you and radja and I can't help but wonder if you have inside knowledge that there really is a third scum member and are trying to figure out my night action for the next night round and seeing what you can get can get away with. but I waffle on it. this hu2 where titus and etl were trying to push that there was a 4th scumteam even tho 2.7 balance factor and they were basically scumclaiming. things aren't as cut and dry. I am tired. the irony is when I asked for protection on d1 I didn't know if there was even another protection role in place. that was supposed to be a light crumb which is even more ironic since I have mostly been using it as a roleblock. I can't even tell if I am being that successful or not but I have no idea how to explain the lack of nks unless scum!radja or town!radja slot has been interfering as well or what is even going on.

this is not clear cut and dry for me.

I will get to this tho

pirate mollie · Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:41 am

In post 5245, ProHawk wrote:Do you have precedent for a 6 scum 17 town game?

I don't understand where you are going with this question, tbh. cos I am not the 1 who is arguing that there are 3 scum left you are. I think 4 to 17 is small, I have been expecting to see an indie pop up. I doubt there is an sk due to lack of nks so it might be possible there is some kind of survivor, I don't know. like I said this is not as cut and dry for me as uh2 was.

I find it weird that you have not listened to me all game, have sniped at me, kept trying to make me feel bad for townreading mastina who...flipped town and suddenly my opinion just seems all important to you. honestly I wld rather lynch you first over radja but no1 else cares. I think there IS a good chance radja is scum, I just wld hate to think psychlone wld reach out to me in the way that they did and be scum. but that is an ego thing and I recognize that.

I just find it ironic that you kept telling me that mastina was manipulating me but here you are doing way more manipulation than she ever did.

pirate mollie · Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:47 am

In post 5235, Seiko x Naomi wrote:
In post 5232, Cerberus v666 wrote:Well yes, that's the point I was bringing up last night, and their response was basically "it's on someone I think is scum, so it's okay", which is simply nonsensical. You can't be upset at someone for playing in a non optimal fashion in lylo, while simultaneously exhibiting and supporting similar behavior from others.

it's not because "I thought" they were scum; there's a lot more to it than that.

the first difference is that basically everyone I think is likely town agreed both hawk and radja were scum. it was a consensus read. in that sense, both were exceedingly likely scum, and even if they *aren't*, they were bound to get voted by one of them anyway which would have meant we were stuck from the get go. there's no point in complaining about something that is inevitably going to happen

the second difference is that the cases on hawk/radja were entirely objective, i.e. not open to interpretation.
radja is scum bc his claim makes no sense; hawk is scum bc D6 makes no sense with him/mastina as town/town. both of these arguments are based on simple logic.
so yes, I think you heavily underestimate how obvious it actually was both of them are scum and thus safe votes; there was, and is, no compelling counter to either case and in the case of radja their play doesn't even look remotely town (I'd argue the same for hawk but, there are people calling it town play so /shrug)

if Antagonist had voted you, for instance, I would absolutely have had a problem with it because not only do I not think you're scum in the first place, you aren't a consensus read and there's no strong reason to lynch you today. the vote on hiplop was probably bad in hindsight, but at that point I was operating under the assumption you/mollie/radja being a CC would practically guarantee hawk as scum unless my view of the game was shit, so I didn't take issue with it

I hope this at least makes more sense and we can talk through it. I was really pissed off the other night (PM me in postgame if you want to know more about this).

I agree with all of this wholeheartedly altho I can see a doc in this set up being either town or scum tbh. its multi-ball.

pirate mollie · Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:48 am

In post 5247, Radja wrote:VOTE: pirate mollie

I think I'll prefer this actually.

I am so not moving my vote now

pirate mollie · Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:49 am

In post 5250, Radja wrote:hiplop is off the wagon, mollie is not.

Scum is pushing my wagon, most definitely. And I'm townreading both of Seiko and Antagonist.

I'm the only protection we have left, so it makes sense for scum to push for my lynch now.

how. fucking. convenient.

pirate mollie · Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:52 am

In post 5261, Cerberus v666 wrote:So, mollie, myself, and seiko are not opposed to a prohawk kynch. And antagonist was voting him to start the day. But we're not lynching him?

Mollie how does radja's claim make no sense?
Or seiko. I missed that, I feel that that's wrong. You're also making assumptions about how D6 has to be tvs. Is there an actual REASON for that? Why is D6 hawk v mastina TvS, while D1 seiko v titus is TvT?

did you actually read my most

am I speaking in swahilese again

pirate mollie · Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:56 am

In post 5259, Seiko x Naomi wrote:mollie I think that there are only 2 scum left!

yaye!

pirate mollie · Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:34 pm

In post 5266, Cerberus v666 wrote:Ummm. The post you quoted said radja was scum because his claim makes no sense. And you said you agreed with everything in it, but you thought a doc could be either scum or town. So you disagree with just that piece of the post? Just because you think it's possible, doesn't mean you think his claim, as a whole, makes sense.

I can see why seiko wld think it wld not make sense but to me it does, I am just wondering if radja is a scum doc.

pirate mollie · Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:44 pm

gah, I hate you pple

NO1 VOTE

pirate mollie · Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:17 pm

hawk boy do you have a scum game where you were in lylo?

pirate mollie · Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:22 am

In post 5282, ProHawk wrote:Umm... I don't think so. I get scum read a lot as both alignments so I don't normally make it there as scum. I can check again though

plz do so.

I jked seiko last night.

@ pie can i plz have a link to your last completed scumgame?

I am updating my spreadsheet and I am going to iso mastina cos I think she did some vcas that i am going to add to it and see what/if there is anything to it.

pirate mollie · Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:58 pm

In post 5291, Seiko x Naomi wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=62686

I looked through your iso that game and yes, that was the game that I was thinking of.

you were pretty aggressive in that game, very much like how you were with cerb here. I know you were pretty antagonistic in ori but I thought that it was due to special circumstances. it is just something that I am taking note. I read the whole thing.

@ hawk boy

I find it strange that for as long as you have been on this site that you have zero scum games that you wound up in lylo in.

pirate mollie · Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:04 pm

In post 5303, ProHawk wrote:Mollie, can Seiko be scum?

I dunno what to tell you? I'm not good at this game?

how about you begin with why you thought that were 3 scum left. with 3 flipped scum from shrinra and only 1 from meteor. god I need to look at my spreadsheet more.

I am not even sure how this is even a debate at this point.

VOTE: prohawk

eta: orly

pirate mollie · Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:58 pm

In post 5307, ProHawk wrote:I thought there were 3 scum because balance dictates so. I was obviously wrong but it was speculative anyhow.

I love how when you're scum you try to answer the least amount of questions possible.

I am pretty sure that I have answered every single question lobbed my way, even if you feel unsatisfied with the answers. this looks like a desperate attempt to go after gj.

hey! speaking of not answering questions!

how about you answer the one where you thought that there might be 3 scum left because I had it in my head that you were talking 2 meteor scum plus possible sk even with the lack of nks but nope, you were trying to posit that there were three scum left on the same team and when I asked you what made you think that were three you flat-out ignore it.

pirate mollie · Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:59 pm

pirate mollie · Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:00 pm

In post 5307, ProHawk wrote:I thought there were 3 scum because balance dictates so. I was obviously wrong but it was speculative anyhow.

I love how when you're scum you try to answer the least amount of questions possible.

plz explain to me how balance dictates so with what has already flipped.

pirate mollie · Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:06 pm

In post 5311, Cerberus v666 wrote:
In post 5305, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 5303, ProHawk wrote:Mollie, can Seiko be scum?

I dunno what to tell you? I'm not good at this game?

how about you begin with why you thought that were 3 scum left. with 3 flipped scum from shrinra and only 1 from meteor. god I need to look at my spreadsheet more.

I am not even sure how this is even a debate at this point.

VOTE: prohawk

eta: orly

Why are you calling out prohawk for that, but ignoring seiko about it?

because i am reading 1 head as town and 1 as scum and trying to marry the concept of notty buddying me this hard as scum.

why are you deflecting from the main convo at hand? cos it is about hawk boy. and unless you have a fantastic case to point towards him being town I am wondering exactly where you are going with this.

I am unsure about seiko. all I know to do in mylo is to deal with the shit that is directly in front of me and it points to hawk boy as scum. I don't THINK that I will be around tomorrow if hawk boy flips scum (AND I AM PRETTY SURE HE WILL!) but if I am I will worry about that tomorrow.

pirate mollie · Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:50 pm

In post 5323, Cerberus v666 wrote:Oh. I thought I had set it to he.. Nothing to be sorry about, I've given no indication either way.

Prohawk, Seiko raises a good point. You're guilty of notable inconsistency. You did say yesterday, iirc, that you thought 2 was more likely, but here you're saying you thought there were 3. What changed?

huh

cos i have it down that hawk boy was 1 of the 3 scum proponents.

pirate mollie · Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:16 pm

In post 5327, Cerberus v666 wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p6909627

I believe that's all 10 of my offsite games. My name on that forum was IWantToUseNumbersInMyName.

Mollie, I could ABSOLUTELY be wrong. Like, it's so incredibly possible. I think he was a proponent in the sense that early in the day he suggested we not vote, because of the lylo risk, but he said later that he thought that 2 scum was more likely, in relation to seiko freaking out about my vote on their slot.

I could be misremembering, mobile, and not double checking my memory right now.

that isn't quite how I remember it happening.

pirate mollie · Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:19 pm

hippy you are dithering

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:07 am

In post 5337, Cerberus v666 wrote:Also, in case anybody missed it, we now have a limited number of possible scenarios, since evwryone has chimed in since mollies vote.

1) Mollie is scum, and thus her team needs one town to vote with her before they can hammer to win.

2)Hawk is scum, and naturally his town isn't going to bus him in lylo.

3)There's somehow only one scum left on meteor. don't believe this is possible, unless there's also a third party of some sort, but that still feels extremely unlikely.
4) Hawk and Mollie are both scum, and making an absurd bus play in lylo to try and guarantee a win tomorrow. As implausible as 3 is, I view this as even less likely, and only include it for the sake of completeness.

In short, I don't think voting outside of mollie/hawk is especially wise, unless someone has a compelling case for why someone else is scum?

this doesn't even compute.

your whole post reeks of fencesitting and stalling.

@ seiko

I am going to tell you what i told muffin and ank uh2. lets lynch scum claiming prohawk and then we will go from there. if prohawk flips scum and I am pretty sure he is going to! then I will most likely be nked. if you are in a 3 player lylo then I don't know what to tell you and honestly I am not even super sure of your alignment right now. I lean most likely town even that link was a game where you hardballed notty and there are some eerily similarities to how you treated cerb. and I am not even sure what you think about cerb or even hippy for that matter.

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:09 am

In post 5304, ProHawk wrote:Wait! I think there was one game Cabd and I hydraed in that we made it to lylo as scum and won.

oh goody then you won't mind providing a link to that will you

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:39 am

In post 5342, Seiko x Naomi wrote:mollie how confident are you that hiplop is town

reasonably confident but I am not sure that you will understand it. I understand who hippy is as a person and how he thinks. <---- that is how I meta pple. it is how I can always read mastina, I just *get* her. I don't know how and I don't why but I just do. it is how I can always tell when she is bullshitting or not. I have that with a precious few players, they are just players that I wldn't have thought that I wld have that dynamic with, while there are players that you wld THINK that I have that dynamic with but don't.

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:25 am

In post 5346, Cerberus v666 wrote:Yeah, the bolded should say "partner". That should make it compute.

Mollie, we're almost certainly in lylo, and you're upset at me because I said there is scum between yourself and hawk? You call a declaration that there are only two reasonable options for scum fence sitting? How so?

I am most certainly not upset, plz don't how or what I am feeling. I am pointing out that you are fencesitting and stalling that has nothing to do with being upset/not upset in fact it has nothing to do with feelings at all. why are you trying to spin this into an emotional argument when it clearly isn't?

I am just going to sit over here and slowly die of old age while waiting for you pple to lynch obvs scum!prohawk

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:54 am

In post 5351, Cerberus v666 wrote:Hmm. Perhaps I misspoke. I didn't mean upset in any emotional sense. I meant upset in the sense that my behavior has elicited a negative reaction from you, as evidenced by your decision to call it fencesitting and stalling. You also didn't address my question of why my declaration was indicative of fencesitting or stalling. It'd also worth wondering why you're in such a hurry to lynch prohawk now. Yesterday I was suggesting a prohawk kynch over a radja one, because lynching the doctor is stupid, and those who thought radja was scum were also suspicious of prohawk, and you didn't support that idea. Why?

"upset" is a qualifier for an emotional state, you don't get to change the definition just because I called you out on you misrepping me. and you are still misrepping me for saying it is a negative reaction to point out what you are doing. I have no idea what you are talking about wrt "declaration", did you think that what I said was based solely on 1 post?

I did vote prohawk. and pushed his lynch. I settled on radja because i thought that it wld clear things up and when I iso-ed psychlone/guy/radja I realized that my townread on them was based on solely on psychlone before 1 head was force replaced. guy didn't provide much and radja didn't really give a stellar performance either. so yeah, the strength of that read was severley weakened. I opted to work with my townreads who were antagonist and seiko at the time and oh boy lookee antagonist flipped town. it may not have been the best course of action since radja actually did flip town but I worked with the info that I had at the time.

and I am not in a "hurry" so another misrep where you keep assigning traits that I am not actually exhibiting and it is getting old. I am voting who i am fairly certain is scum, it is just that I seriously don't understand why town is so reluctant to lynch scum on this site I feel every is sisyphus hurdle that I have to jump it LIKE NEARLY EVERY GAME.

I said that I wld patiently wait and that is what I am doing, I am just pointing out that as par for the course it is going to probably drag out like it always does but I am not letting up on this. prohawk is scum.

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:00 am

In post 5356, ProHawk wrote:Mollie is lying about who she jailed. It should be apparent from her posting, but whomever the heck is town in this scenario isn't seeing clearly.

I tried to kill her the past two nights. She may or may not have been protected by Radja (curse you if she was). Last night there is absolutely NO explanation as to why she shouldn't have died save she actually jailed me.

I am fairly certain that she claimed to jail Seiko because they are partners and she is trying to clear them. Which makes even more sense considering SHE isn't putting that possibility on the table (but is quick to make she she can pull off a mis-lynch due to her role).

jesus christ why aren't you dead already

lemme guess that there is a third scum still in the works and they are called communists and they will win if they are lynched. plz next claim that you are actually the town redirector or some dumb shit because this is just getting funnier and funnier.

carry on vt/vig/redirector/pgo/cop/watcher/supersaint

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:01 am

can you next claim bomb

plz claim bomb next

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:03 am

what is funny is prohawk is saying that he tried to nk me 2 nights ago when radja was alive. does any1 remember who radja said he protected? I am pretty sure it wasn't me.

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:06 am

In post 5360, ProHawk wrote:BOMB

at least you are being funny while you go down.

hey cerb! do you know who wants to cut the day short by fakeclaiming nearly anything to get lynched it is prohawk!

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:27 am

hey guys! I am not responding to thing until claimed scum prohawk is lynched!

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:44 am

In post 5372, Cerberus v666 wrote:
In post 5370, pirate mollie wrote:hey guys! I am not responding to thing until claimed scum prohawk is lynched!

Yay, refusal to communicate, awesome!

keep up the misreps cerb!

and then plz explain to seiko how after seeing my play in we didn't playtest this is somehow just like my play here!

I am feeling really good. this is the first time that I have a grasp of the gamestate on my own and not from any1 else. I love it when it comes together.

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:09 pm

In post 5375, ProHawk wrote:there are commies in this game I tell you, commies!

yes titus tried that with me too in hu2 and it didn't work out too well for her either!

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:19 pm

In post 5382, ProHawk wrote:Mollie, you should be proud of me. I am taking Mastin's advice!

<3

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:22 pm

I actually have no idea what advice you are even talking about I am just assuming that mastina at some point said that when you are scum going down to at least make it interesting and try to mist spread as much as you can.

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:25 pm

In post 5383, Cerberus v666 wrote:
In post 5379, ProHawk wrote:Yeah, I've pretty much pissed them off im sure. Too bad they tried to cross kill last night and failed!

Interesting. That only fits with what you said about you failing to kill mollie, and someone dying last night, in a very small number of situations.

so will you be working from the angle that there are 4 shinra and 2? 3? meteor?

do tell.

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:51 pm

In post 5390, Cerberus v666 wrote:
In post 5387, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 5383, Cerberus v666 wrote:
In post 5379, ProHawk wrote:Yeah, I've pretty much pissed them off im sure. Too bad they tried to cross kill last night and failed!

Interesting. That only fits with what you said about you failing to kill mollie, and someone dying last night, in a very small number of situations.

so will you be working from the angle that there are 4 shinra and 2? 3? meteor?

do tell.

Well, it would have to be 4/3 for what he's saying to be true. The part that's confusing though, is antagonist died last night, and prohawk claims that you tried to cross kill, and that he failed to kill you last night. That would indicate that he redirected a shot you made, at antagonist, somehow, and that his shot was somehow stopped by you. That's what he's saying happened, basically.

I think you shld run around and say that there are commies too!

do you know what you do with scum claims? you lynch them. you don't dawdle, you don't dither, you don't make deals with claimed scum.

this is mafia 101, like the very basics of mafia. I am not lying prohawk is and I am not quite sure why you are choosing to listen to fucking scum.

I fucking knew I shld have started that thread in md post hu2 game. but I was exhausted after that game from trying to convince town to lynch confscum and win the game for town cos they didn't seem to wanna do it.

I have played lots of borky multi-games and so far they have been pretty symmetrical and are a 1:4 scum to town ratio, give or take a town player. prohawk is meteor scum and all you are doing is looking as desperate as he is in trying to keep him alive.

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:56 pm

In post 5392, Seiko x Naomi wrote:
In post 5370, pirate mollie wrote:hey guys! I am not responding to thing until claimed scum prohawk is lynched!

i'm asking because i want your opinion on this for 3p LYLO after you die

and I am getting incredibly frustrated that confscum is being allowed to mist spread and you are letting him get away with it.

there isn't 4 shinra, borky's mod meta just doesn't point to that

ffs did you even LOOK at the links of borky's mod meta that pie posted?

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:56 pm

In post 5400, Cerberus v666 wrote:Anyways, Mollie, you're not gonna get me mislynched. Trust. I recommend going after someone else.

NOTTY

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:37 pm

Is it finally over.

In post 5419, pieguyn wrote:I am the worst fucking town player to have ever lived and I don't even know what to say about my play this game.

sorry town :/

Plz plz plz don't feel bad. I don't want town to feel bad this game. Plz read where I was at the tail end of this game, you guys made it very hard to play against you.

I love you Hippy. You too, Prohawk.

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:37 pm

In post 5425, hiplop wrote:im fine with pt being open

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:57 pm

In post 5435, ProHawk wrote:I handed you the game on a silver platter.

Ika I can't imagine they were trying to kill town. And I'm not sure how you think you were town bull rushing the lynch of the town doc lol!

I pushed for their nk cos I thought if any1 was likely to get weird on me it wld be those 2. I didn't want them talking to Seiko.

I really did think that Hippy and I were the last scum until you started fakeclaiming. That was awesome.

eta: pie don't, plz

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:59 pm

in case any1 is confused this game came at a great cost.

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 2:38 pm

I will make a big long post later.

Thank you for the game borky!!!! <3 <3 <3

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 2:38 pm

I will make a big long post later.

Thank you for the game borky!!!! <3 <3 <3

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:56 pm

In post 5469, singersigner wrote:
In post 5466, notscience wrote:My singer-sense was off

Really

Literally every time you came over and we would talk about mafia I would be like "omg no one ever does NKA wtf" and you'd be all like "I KNOW IT'S CRAZY RIGHT LOL MOLLIE'S SO TOWN ROFLCOPTER" and then I would facepalm and cry myself to sleep.

I don't want town to feel bad and neither shld you.

I didn't want you dead btw. hippy did, I went along with it cos I didn't want you stressed cos of your pregnancy.

but that 1 post was really goo.

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:57 pm

*good

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:19 pm

In post 5475, Varsoon wrote:Yo, Mollie.
I think you played this really well.
I had my suspicions of you, but I don't think I could have beaten you if we ever went 1 on 1.

<3

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:17 pm

thanks again for the game, borky <3

guys we went into this game not really thinking we had a chance in hell of winning. hippy is lynch bait and I can't live past d3 w/o pple wondering why I am alive. plus when I am scum I normally ooze scum vibes. I went into this game simply wanting to give town a good game. we were also trying to keep scum alive cos we wanted an endgame full of nothing but scum. didn't know we were up against 4! we didn't set out to do crosskills.

the emotions this were not fake. they were pretty freaking genuine. but enough about that.

hippy was the best, most supportive partner a girl cld have! ily hippy <3 <3 <3

I am so glad this game is over. mebbe now I can get back to self-care and eating well and not feeling sick all of the time.

guys this was really really hard and some of you did not make it easy.

I felt like there was no1 here to really pull town together and weave a cohesive unit and I feel like that is what in the end, hurt town.

eta: mastina I thought you were town!

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:26 pm

pirate mollie wrote:
~
HOW TO ENJOY MAFIA
~

1. eat danish brie with triscuits
2. chips and layered bean dip
3. hummus
4. pet a cat
5. tease borky
6. pet a dog
7. hug tammy
8. hug every1
9. pick flowers or blow dandelion clocks
10. dance partayy!!~~~?
11. take a night off from mafia and go play boardgames and 2 rooms and a boom with friends and have a super chill relaxing evening.
12. have the best scum partner in the world
13. watch HitRECORD - my god this show is so freaking wholesome it hurts.

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:36 pm

hiplop wrote:We gotta use magic to like force someone to vote

*dances weird shaman magic dance*

pirate mollie wrote:*chants voodoo chants*

I might start sacrificing chickens if this goes on for too much longer.

pirate mollie wrote:*starts to chase chickens*

HERE CHICKY CHICKY CHICKY

yeah, town made it difficult. but probably not in the way that they think.

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:43 pm

In post 5515, hiplop wrote:
In post 5514, pirate mollie wrote:
pirate mollie wrote:
~
HOW TO ENJOY MAFIA
~

1. eat danish brie with triscuits
2. chips and layered bean dip
3. hummus
4. pet a cat
5. tease borky
6. pet a dog
7. hug tammy
8. hug every1
9. pick flowers or blow dandelion clocks
10. dance partayy!!~~~?
11. take a night off from mafia and go play boardgames and 2 rooms and a boom with friends and have a super chill relaxing evening.
12. have the best scum partner in the world
13. watch HitRECORD - my god this show is so freaking wholesome it hurts.
14. WIN WITH THE COOLEST GAL I COULD'VE EVER ROLLED SCUM WITH <3 HIPPY LOVE MOLLIE
LOVE HIPPY

made one last revision <3

I thought some1 wld have picked up on our new found closeness too, I had a back story all lined up for it.

I am fairly certain that we will be able to read each other with a fair amount of accuracy after this.

pirate mollie · Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:08 pm

rereading sections of the game I feel like town really shld have rallied around singer a bit more

pirate mollie · Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:11 am

In post 5587, Varsoon wrote:@Feysal: I don't think you're a bad guy for having the reaction you have. It's a normal reaction to have--this is the internet. If you don't like something, you can voice that and move past it. That said, I wouldn't call teaching another player a lost cause. It's all about communication. As of now, he may think, "Oh, these other people don't like my approach" but might not see exactly what is wrong with it or what's keeping him from winning games. Shutting him out and crossing arms over the whole thing seems contrary to making it better, and also diminishes the community we should all be striving for. If one method of teaching doesn't stick, try another approach. It's clear that insisting on the negative qualities of his play and his inability to learn hasn't been an effective model. I think you understand what's 'wrong' with his play in a very comprehensive way and instead of channeling that into a blacklisting or badmouthing (which just seems to push him to continue to play that way, as if being contrarian) isn't helping for a variety of reasons. I think you're a smart player and that you could challenge him in different ways and bring him to new heights, is all. It'd be a shame if you just gave up on that.

<3

I loved what you said varsoona. both in the previous post and in this 1.

both parties have to be open to communication though and that is not always what happens. while I really appreciate the sentiment of your post I don't think it is fair to chastise feysal if he has tried to talk to saint and saint has never responded or been open to dialogue. and sometimes you just have to recognize that your energies are best spent elsewhere.

pirate mollie · Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:32 pm

In post 5608, borkjerfkin wrote:it was effectively a 'leash the SK' move, which is very often proper strategy.

mebbe i am misunderstanding something. town had no chance of winning. can you plz explain to me how in this case it was a viable option for town? I mean it was only a viable option for prohawk. what am I missing?

pirate mollie · Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:37 pm

In post 5610, Xtoxm wrote:Lynch the meteor JK, then the two single scums kill each other at night and town win.

that is predicated on that scum will agree to kill each other and somehow I don't see that happening.

pirate mollie · Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:49 pm

In post 5613, borkjerfkin wrote:
In post 5611, pirate mollie wrote:that is predicated on that scum will agree to kill each other and somehow I don't see that happening.

It's a prisoner's dilemma -- scum can only win if they are alive and the other scum is dead, which they have to pseudo-cooperate to get a chance at

If scum both shoot at town, they draw (I really am not a huge fan of the 'nobody wins' state and probably would've called it a half-win for you both) if they both shoot each other, town wins.

Scum has to correctly figure out if the other team is going to go for a draw or a full win

if town helped the other team by lynching my partner in mylo there is no way I wld not be shooting town. am I unusual in feeling that way?

but it wld have been interesting to have seen it drawn out from that perspective and to have seen how ultimately it wld have played out.