NY 192: Game Shop Mafia (Over)

[pirate mollie]

I'm cop.

there's no fucking role cop in the setup and if there is it's scum.

lynch him right now.

deathy remember you promised to nk me

VOTE: nero

I am telling you pple pisskop is his scummate but since I am shit I don't expect any1 to listen

[pirate mollie]

fuckign knew this cunt was gonna claim cop

fuck you pervert. go watch you Japanese cartoon porn.

that is MY porn collection not rc's. lol, I knew you were scum when you brought up the whole trust tell thing with froggy.

I am feeling much better about things now. I think rc and froggy were just tense altho I still want pisskop to bathe with a toaster. I am telling you pisskop is scum. deathy will nk me and the world will be okay. and I did not post my role pm and I wanted to several times.

[pirate mollie]

like this is probably what is being said in the scum pt:

nero: i just need to survive mollie
pisskop: I still think she is lynchable
nero: mollie is very hard to lynch I don't think it will happen
pisskop: well I disagree
nosferatu: see this is why I have an alt. I can't stand her god will she not just die already

like if nero flips scum i bet this convo really happened.

[pirate mollie]

Stop. its sillyness. the report function is like the most overused function ever on every site.

do you know how many times Ive ever been ever pmed about anything ive done by a skittle? 1ce. When I selfhammered.

greyice or iceninja?

if it was greyice that wld be funny

[pirate mollie]

Too late

re-report it and take it back

eta: I thought you were saying you were reported by greyice or iceninja

why haven't you bathed with a toaster? I asked nicely.

[pirate mollie]

PK's reaction to end of day has been terrible.

I think Mollie might be right here.

yes I think I am too, scum were not happy that I replaced in

eta: I am beyond town and I think said those things cos you are scum and you just realized the position you are in didn't you.

[pirate mollie]

But it's like, ugh.

Hopefully I die.

plz protect rc thank you

[pirate mollie]

I'm here for a bit but wont be able to catch up tonight. I assume the last 20 pages are filled with civilized discussions of people sharing their reads and an overall comfortable town atmosphere?

Just ISO Nero and ctrl+f trust tell and read from the first one you find in Nero's ISO.

yeah, I think he looks pretty scummy. Why aren't we lynching pisskop though?

and I still have not been enlightened on how personality is indicative of age.

well now i have time to answer you

it isn't a personality thing it is the level of sophistication of thought processes and how you obtain and use the info that you have gathered. like I believe dwlee might actually be 14 or somewhere in there and I think zulfy is young too. it isn't that they are incapable of sophisticated thought; I think the opposite their is a purity in their reasoning and how they are going about it. I like them both.

like does not matter wrt how I read them it is just there and I feel a bit maternal towards them.

you on the other hand are not 14 lol. your references ("check privilege" and some others you have made) sound experiential that a 14 year old wld not have. so i treat you differently. you come across as older and it is very evident in your posts. it is a tonal thing.

does this make sense?

[pirate mollie]

eta: if you are an alt you don't have to tell me your main I wld feel better if you wld admit that you are not 14 cos you aren't.

[pirate mollie]

What 14 year old talks like this lol. Hey, more power to you dude.

inorite

[pirate mollie]

Nero thinks I am offended about him posting after the lynch lmao. Nope it is because you called rc a pervert who likes hentai.

nero thinks you are offended cos he called rc a perv. rc is NOT offended cos most pple know rc is not a perv.

you don't need to get offended on rc's behalf.

[pirate mollie]

if rc was offended then okay I wld be screaming at nero but he isn't

just let it go

[pirate mollie]

rc if you try to talk town out of a pisskop lynch at this I am going to hurt you

[pirate mollie]

and also how the fuck is it that only deathy and I realize what is up with nosferatu? its probs lld

[pirate mollie]

rc if you try to talk town out of a pisskop lynch at this I am going to hurt you

I'm not lynching PK while Keyser and Zulfy are alive.

zulfy is more than likely 14, nosferatu isn't.

I spelled out the clear associatives between pisskop and nero so if nero flips scum and you ignore me I AM GOING TO BE PISSED.

[pirate mollie]

You have yet to do anything worth while this game. And if nero should flip town Im running you through.

fuck off with that tired ass litany, scum.

[pirate mollie]

wow. Its like youre happy with yourself. youve literally repeated the same line so many times Frogger had to tell you you were completely out of tune with the game, and you ignored him just as you've ignored anythign else that inconvienences you.

frogger never said that but what he HAS said is that I have provided content cos I have you are either too goddamn stupid to see it or you are being willfully ignorant which points to scum

you were a complete and total asshole this game. you harassed the living shit out of me and a bunch of pple stood by and watched including the mod but hey i am not tammy I can't get any1 to do shit about douchebaggery in a game. I bitched about nobody special and his pedophelia no1 cared. I bitched about metal sonic before he asked to see naked pictures of 12 year old girls. I am bitching about you for being a sexist asswipe but I bet no1 will care about that either. I think the only reason you are not mod-killed is cos you are scum.

I have contributed, produced more content than you, more than likely lynched scum and have supplied more reads. you on the other have been asshole to me and my previous slot I am sorry I don't a penis evolution made me this way. I mean if you are not a lyncher on this slot then I it is my fault for not having a penis to participate in the dick waving contest that you have dragged this game into.

in no way shape or form did I deserve your sexualized and personal attacks.

but its mollie! so no1 will care.

now go make yourself useful and bathe with a toaster.

[pirate mollie]

rc if you try to talk town out of a pisskop lynch at this I am going to hurt you

I'm not lynching PK while Keyser and Zulfy are alive.

zulfy is more than likely 14, nosferatu isn't.

How is that even pertinent to that conversation.

anyway there are so many things I can do to show you that I'm 14. I'm just thinking of which one to use to seal the deal.

I want you to NOT be 14 so that I can rationalize the dishonest fumes that are emanating from your account are coming from town.

[pirate mollie]

I like wine

you fucking stood by and watched while pisskop verbally assaulted me all game. then said agreed with pisskop that I WAS THE ONE to blame and treat you like shit. I have not been dishonest with you at all. I have been trying to work with you all game.

thanks for helping with nero I guess I had only been screaming for him all game while pisskop kept defending him.

[pirate mollie]

you fucking stood by and watched while pisskop verbally assaulted me all game

I actually didn't.

I posted at one point Pisskop should be banned for what he said to you.

after rc pointed it out. cos when he originally said it no1 cared.

[pirate mollie]

and you most certainly gave the impression that you believed pisskop over me your vote was on me before the whole nero shit went down so don't even.

that you were more willing to believe pisskop over me or trust a person who is most likely NOT 14 over speaks volumes about what you think of me.

[pirate mollie]

Mollie is stupid. And yet here we are, she keeps repeating this one point over and over like she is.

heh I messed up. *she isnt stupid*

You see, if I had meant to call her dumb, the next sentence wouldnt make sense.

I get you made a type o.

I also get that I didn't realize it was a type o and came to her defense and that was me genuinely defending her.

he did not make a typo he has been trashing me all game god

[pirate mollie]

If I ever make an alt I'll use that ID picture and name it "red eyes black dragon" lol

yeeeaah, I once traced a photo of a person who was claiming to be a woman whom the admin had harassed on another site. turned out that the pic was from a photo of a woman who had gone missing 6 years prior. that was kind of weird.

I am not going to go digging, you come across as dishonest to me and if you are an alt or not 14 that wld explain it cos I wld rather believe that than give the pple who haven't done jackshit this game a leg up.

[pirate mollie]

I fucking dare you to find my fucking student ID from a school with 500 kids online. You were wrong, fucking deal with it. I haven't been dishonest at all. You've basically painted a picture of me being dishonest with the whole age and alt thing when it's all total bullshit and you just refuse to admit it.

Y O U A R E W R O N G.

okay, say you are 14. tell me more about surfing in vietnam. I am really interested.

[pirate mollie]

>say I am 14
goddamn lol you're like a 4th grader

I've never been to vietnam. Dunno why you'd think so either.

most of the prep psychology is of the anti-bullying and anti-insulting bent nowadays. I am just wondering how you missed it. like belittling some1 who is younger than for being younger than you is actively discouraged.

surfing in vietnam is in your sig.

[pirate mollie]

who is younger than for being younger

than you

[pirate mollie]

hey guys this is the game that finally pushed me too far

it had to happen at some point I guess

[pirate mollie]

>say I am 14
goddamn lol you're like a 4th grader

I've never been to vietnam. Dunno why you'd think so either.

most of the prep psychology is of the anti-bullying and anti-insulting bent nowadays. I am just wondering how you missed it. like belittling some1 who is younger than for being younger than you is actively discouraged.

surfing in vietnam is in your sig.

I took psychology last year and I'm taking AP Psych this year and anti-bullying isn't in there at all...

And my sig doesn't say surfing in vietnam, it states if you want to surf period, burn down a base in vietnam.

it is usually covered in the school policy discussions! I have 2 kids and 2 stepdaughters I have been to a lot of them. it was a nationwide policy mandated ever since columbine. it is possible you were not listening tho. school rulz /snore. I support it but even i wanted to check out cos it felt like they talked about it forever cos god we get it, pay attention if our kids get bullied, report anything that happens, talk to your kids and emotionally support them. I felt like these things shld be a given but for some reason it had to be pointed out and it makes me sad.

how can you burn down a base in vietnam if you are not near it? I mean nuking vietnam is not the same as burning it. what do you think?

[pirate mollie]

well then that's a public school thing. I go to a private school.

and it's a quote from a VN, it's not supposed to make sense. It's just saying for just whatever you want to do, just do something horrible just because.

are you home-schooled? cos they cover it in montessori, catholic and charter schools. it is a requirement I looked it up. might be regional tho with the gun-craziness of the south.

if you have not heard of this until now I am sorry.

froggy trusts you so what are your thoughts on the gamestate if nero flips scum? what if he flips town? if he flips town my mind will melt.

[pirate mollie]

I was in Montessori in kindergarten and I was in charter school (temporarily) in 3rd grade. In between those years I was homeschooled. In 4th grade I started going to private school and I have been there since. Private schools do not have to adhere to the same rules as other schools because they are privately owned. I also live in the south.

not sure what you mean by gamestate.

@Zulfy: please tell me you have a spreadsheet documenting who has the most scumpoints. Cause you haven't given me a single one and I find that marginally disturbing.

eh, private schools still have to adhere to a national mandate. it might have been scarcely covered tho.

what i mean about gamestate is I wld love your thoughts on what you wld think if nero flipped scum (like, who are his buddies) and what you wld think if he were to flip? I am pretty sure nero is scum cos I don't think rc wld disassemble like that.

[pirate mollie]

pisskop I want to apologize for going off on you like I did. you did deserve that and I am sorry.

lets have a do-over. I really liked your exchanges with rc I think. still unsure but at least now I am willing to consider that I might be wrong.

[pirate mollie]

<3

I waspursuing you so hard because I dont want to be that guy who offends people without a vaild reason. was not called for.

<3

oh and I meant to say that you did NOT deserve that but I take it you knew what I meant.

[pirate mollie]

do have any thoughts or are you waiting for the flip like I am? I am pretty sure nero will flip scum. I think scum are floating around the edges and trying to stay under the radar.

[pirate mollie]

can some1 who remembers remind me who rc viewed plz? I am updating my notes and I think a bunch of braincells last night cos I remember.

[pirate mollie]

kk ty

last night at reck's how I was a cop and I checked nuwen n1 she died, I checked pie n2 and was the n2 kill and then pie was lynched d3 for faking and breaking aa posting restriction and he was ton. like my investigations were the kiss of death or something.

[pirate mollie]

yeah I hate it when that happens. I think I am going to move pisskop to my townpile, I take it you are townreading him too? also I don't get zulfy's reaction to pisskop's questioning I mean psskop didn't say anything out of line.

my townlist right now is you, froggy, pisskop and jar jar and I am gonna trust you guys on nos. that is a sound town bloc right there and thats who i am gonna be working with.

that leaves:

the cow slot
dwlee/zulfy - I think 1 of these 2 are scum and unlikely to be on the same team. as of right now I lean on zulfy, town on dwlee.
keser

I wld try leasing deathy if he doesn't do what town wants then lynch him. (assuming he is an sk).
I am leaving wake and wicked alone cos of their claims.

rc have I missed anything?

[pirate mollie]

Not positive on JJ but w/e

yeah I'm pretty sure PK is town. he wouldn't have done what he did as scum.

I think scum were sitting back while the mollie/pisskop shitstorm was happening. jar jar is a strong townread for me.

[pirate mollie]

I think Zulfy is 100% scum.
Keyser really scummy too.

yeah I'm not scumreading JJ, far from it.

I really just want you guys to hit up Zulfy and Keyser after I die. pretty much done here.

yeah thats what i plan on doing if I make it through the night. if we can town focused enough to follow that list then I think town has a better than average chance of winning I think. I have a pretty good feeling about this.

you know its funny cos last night we were talking about forum mafia and some of our friends don't play on here so they don't know my forum mafia personality. I was telling them how much of a bitch I am and how a lot of pple don't like me and they didn't believe me cos IRL I am pretty laid back and hippyish and they think I am too nice to ever have a bitchy moment. so I read them what I wrote to pisskop and they were like "wuuuuut, that doesn't sound like you" and I realised after I read it out loud that I really didn't like myself during that moment. so I wanted to reach out to pisskop and make amends and I am glad that I did.

[pirate mollie]

ilu2 froggy <3

[pirate mollie]

wicked I really don't see I am in your neutral pile. I am gonna need you to explain that 1 to me.

[pirate mollie]

You believed that? RC fakes cop in like every game ever unless cop is proven impossible.

link?

[pirate mollie]

I can see why the massive replace out though. No one wants to deal with RC's bullshit.

uhm no.

pisskop sexualized all of my interactions and I told him I wanted him to bathe with a plugged in toaster.

like we both were way worse than rc ever was.

but the cc of a town role cop is ugh.

[pirate mollie]

titus

where is your vca?

when you replace in I know for a fact you look at that.

[pirate mollie]

but the cc of a town role cop is ugh.

If you're going to lynch me for awful setup design just make sure you all tell AP he's a moron after this game.

can you plz NOT say anything else inflammatory tia

[pirate mollie]

It is because Mollie is a sucker for Meta. If someone does something that she feels is meta dependent, then she makes sure to point out if it was missed. I think its a silly way to handle things.

Who cares if you VCA in this game? Like yeah, I know they can be useful but anyone can do it.

wow

dn is not town.

I don't need a cop investigation to know this.

[pirate mollie]

Don't hastily vote someone who is obviously town if you don't want to be called out for not reading.

Yeah, you aren't obvious town RC.
You claim cop all the time, and you make ridiculous claims all the time.

You are ridiculous regardless of alignment, and I am voting you because you are likely scum.

links?

I want more than 1 game. I mean if he does this "all of the time" it shldn't be hard.

[pirate mollie]

Don't hastily vote someone who is obviously town if you don't want to be called out for not reading.

Yeah, you aren't obvious town RC.
You claim cop all the time, and you make ridiculous claims all the time.

You are ridiculous regardless of alignment, and I am voting you because you are likely scum.

links?

I want more than 1 game. I mean if he does this "all of the time" it shldn't be hard.

[pirate mollie]

It is because Mollie is a sucker for Meta. If someone does something that she feels is meta dependent, then she makes sure to point out if it was missed. I think its a silly way to handle things.

Who cares if you VCA in this game? Like yeah, I know they can be useful but anyone can do it.

If I avoid VCA by day 4 in a large and day 3 in a mini and a scum lynch without a guilty happen, you should lynch me. VCA is my biggest tool.

then why are you not doing it if it is anchor to how you navigate the game.

[pirate mollie]

I got bored halfway through.

RC isnt scum you funduddies.
Mollie, otoh, is still in the running. Can we now kill the scumzor mollie?

yes can we plz lynch me

I have hope for you that someday you will get better at mafia.

what do you think of titus always saying that she relies on vca and discards meta when she is using meta on rc right now?

what do you think of titus and fire saying that rc "always does this" when fire has yet to cough up a game and titus cld produce only 1?

these are the questions that you really shld be asking. but you want cos your deathtunnel fetish fanfiction is so much more appealing isn't it. LETS LYNCH MOLLIE COS FOR STUPID REASONS THAT NEVER APPLIED IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!

okay so we lost this game. yaye I can not care about it!! \o/

[pirate mollie]

Right, extreme narcissism.

You want to talk about preparing for town flips? that's preparing for a town flip.

You had exactly 2 votes on you at the time you made that post. And one of them was from DN who you are not townreading. Wanna try again?

pedit: and the other was from the place you just placed your vote.

I don't carry through cop guilties any more since I was WoTCed from a few games after a NY game where I correctly fakeclaimed cop and caused the scum team to forfeit.

can I plz see all of the games that rc did this. I mean, according to your meta read on rc there are so many!

Honey, you've pulled that so many times now. You got lucky once. You'd fake claimed cop more times more times this month guilties on me talah etc. If you're town, you gotta stop this. People hear guilty and scumhunting STOPS. Don't you get this? Like total stops.

[pirate mollie]

Right, extreme narcissism.

You want to talk about preparing for town flips? that's preparing for a town flip.

You had exactly 2 votes on you at the time you made that post. And one of them was from DN who you are not townreading. Wanna try again?

pedit: and the other was from the place you just placed your vote.

I don't carry through cop guilties any more since I was WoTCed from a few games after a NY game where I correctly fakeclaimed cop and caused the scum team to forfeit.

fixed

can I plz see all of the games that rc did this. I mean, according to your meta read on rc there are so many!

Honey, you've pulled that so many times now. You got lucky once. You'd fake claimed cop more times more times this month guilties on me talah etc. If you're town, you gotta stop this. People hear guilty and scumhunting STOPS. Don't you get this? Like total stops.

[pirate mollie]

Titus, who did you replace?

Thecow. Well thecow did faphall, so do things.

titus replaced zulfy where the fuck are you getting the cow

[pirate mollie]

links?

I want more than 1 game. I mean if he does this "all of the time" it shldn't be hard.

I ain't hunting for links for you mollie.
Recently RC has:
Claimed he was mason with me in order to save me from getting mislynched, RC was scum.
Claimed he was a Bus Driver and got massive town credit for that lynch, RC was scum.

RadiantCowbells loves gambits more than I love AtE.

And I god damn love AtE

put up or shut up

[pirate mollie]

If a play:

- gets a PR lynched
- makes you obvtown cause the town should "know better"

Isn't a great play as scum?

If you're concerned about my alignment lynch me the day before LyLo.

We're not discussing the possibility of lynching me today.

I think you know that lynching you is optimal play at this point. if it is ap's fault that he put in 2 cops in a game then we can bitch at him postgame, just like we roasted prozack for designing a game where town only had 3 mislynches in play with 4 grpscum and 1 sk and weak ass specials for town.

I am not in a rush cos the twilight after nero was lynched between you, pisskop and I felt too real. I don't give a flying fuck if pisskop reads my waffling as scum all it will ensure is a town loss. I really wish he wld not be so dumb and see that scum totally used our tard fight for cover and have an excuse to not post. something you might consider is that we are being set for another day of the pisskop deathtunnels shitshow and that was why froggy was nked but that might be asking you for too much. it is yet another game where my town bloc is being nked and there is not a thing that I can do about that.

[pirate mollie]

God's sake Titus why the hell would I do that for you exactly?

You're either scum or being a complete ass rn.

VOTE: Titus

Titus just asked the person who they're 50% policy lynching and 50% scumreading to colour VCs for her.

Yeah, that makes sense.

Context fail.

I am TOWNREADING mollie. I don't want to lynch her like ever.

You're the policy/scumread. Shit like this post is why.

I am pretty sure rc was not talking about me here

[pirate mollie]

links?

I want more than 1 game. I mean if he does this "all of the time" it shldn't be hard.

I ain't hunting for links for you mollie.
Recently RC has:
Claimed he was mason with me in order to save me from getting mislynched, RC was scum.
Claimed he was a Bus Driver and got massive town credit for that lynch, RC was scum.

RadiantCowbells loves gambits more than I love AtE.

And I god damn love AtE

RC faked in a mini theme Myko hosted
RC may have faked a guilty on me in Chaos Omega's game (cannot remember)
The New York game she referenced herself


That's five right there.

can I have links plz?

[pirate mollie]

I got bored halfway through.

RC isnt scum you funduddies.
Mollie, otoh, is still in the running. Can we now kill the scumzor mollie?

yes can we plz lynch me

I have hope for you that someday you will get better at mafia.

what do you think of titus always saying that she relies on vca and discards meta when she is using meta on rc right now?

what do you think of titus and fire saying that rc "always does this" when fire has yet to cough up a game and titus cld produce only 1?

these are the questions that you really shld be asking. but you want cos your deathtunnel fetish fanfiction is so much more appealing isn't it. LETS LYNCH MOLLIE COS FOR STUPID REASONS THAT NEVER APPLIED IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!

okay so we lost this game. yaye I can not care about it!! \o/

U say this but I keep seeing no reason not to.

how about you explore the law of gravity with a cable chord attached to the ceiling that is wrapped around your neck?

[pirate mollie]

Just forget everything I've said up to now.

Why is Scum!RC flying in to counterclaim cop then inevitably get lynched before LyLo?

Like, seriously. If you're claiming a scumread on me, address that in your next post.

And JJ, you're being 151 different kinds of a numpty here if you're town.

if you want to help town then put up a reads list. that is the correct play.

[pirate mollie]

links?

I want more than 1 game. I mean if he does this "all of the time" it shldn't be hard.

I ain't hunting for links for you mollie.
Recently RC has:
Claimed he was mason with me in order to save me from getting mislynched, RC was scum.
Claimed he was a Bus Driver and got massive town credit for that lynch, RC was scum.

RadiantCowbells loves gambits more than I love AtE.

And I god damn love AtE

RC faked in a mini theme Myko hosted
RC may have faked a guilty on me in Chaos Omega's game (cannot remember)
The New York game she referenced herself


That's five right there.

can I have links plz?

1)http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=64408

2)forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=64284&f=23&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&user_select%5B%5D=24645&user_select%5B%5D=0&user_select%5B%5D=0&user_sort=Go

Myko's game and bus driver, which I quoted before

The NY game men I don't think RC is lying about it but there's a town and scum one.

was he town or scum in those games?

cos he is not arguing that he does not do this what he is saying is that he does it as town and to do it as scum after lynching a scummate on d1 and doing it on d2 is suboptimal play if he was scum.

[pirate mollie]

PM I made my reads list.

can you link the current 1?

[pirate mollie]

DO NOT MAKE POSTS LIKE THIS MOLLIE. THEY COME ACROSS AS WISHING IRL HARM TO HIM. I DOUBT YOU MEAN THIS. STILL PLEASE DON'T.

I am pretty sure that pisskop and I have an understanding at this point. he tries to lynch me and I think of creative ways to tell him he is wrong. its like we are married. but if you wanna report it that way N can fuck up the game even more than he already has then by all means do so.

there is a reason the "details to follow" is posted or waiting until postgame to suspend some1.

titus you had an entire night round to do vca and you didn't. your "I will do it tomorrow" reeks of your procrastination to do so in hu2. I think you are scum.

pisskop what is your read on rc?

also rc what is your favourite alignment? just curious.

[pirate mollie]

rc why is wake null when he was in a neighbourhood with scum!dave and dn whom you think is the sk?

[pirate mollie]

@Mollie, He was scum where he faked in 2. He had us thinking he was town bus driver.

@Pisskop, Scum Mollie let's me wait on VCA and murders or discredits me in the meantime. She doesn't push for it.

I am not waiting for it I think if you had any intentions on doing it you wld have done it by now

[pirate mollie]

Because he hasn't posted any fucking shit at all and I'm not willing to clear him for being in a neighbourhood.

so you think 2 scum neighbours in a hood with a supposed sk wld pass normals review?

guy tried this in a game once in large themes and he was crucified. ap likes to make things interesting, not fuck town over.

[pirate mollie]

Titus replaces Zulfy, starting right now! Thanks Titus!

bullshit titus. you replaced in on monday you have had plenty of time. in prozacks game you had less time than that and you hit the floor running.

[pirate mollie]

So if you all did lynch nero

A) what the hell yo

B) Are we going to lynch RC when he flips cop? Can we lynch mollie after that?

Your slot revealed that it knew that the RC claim was legit and then tried to set up two mislynches.

I think we're done here?

Already answered that. Total misread. He was saying that Nero is town and this sets up the game for scum.

which makes perfect sense coming from scum.

[pirate mollie]

No. miller can exist as either. And since there was no alignment in the role there no reason to believe he is confed.

can you point me to the game where you saw a scum miller? I mean I have seen scum claim to be miller but I haven't actually seen a scum miller flip it wld have to be advertised as a bastard game since it wld be misleading mod info based on roles.

wicked and wake slot are both probably confirmed town but I probably need to look up the rules and set up design for normals. it doesn't help that both slots have been lazy and apathetic but wicked did post before the end of the previous day round so there is that. we just need to find a way to get him engaged and focused.

[pirate mollie]

from the wiki link on normals:

Roles which are explicitly Normal for any alignment include:
Bodyguard, Commuter, Sane Cop, Doctor, Follower, Gunsmith, Jack of All Trades, Jailkeeper, Motion Detector, Neapolitan, Neighbor, Neighborizer, Roleblocker, Rolecop, Rolestopper, Tracker, Universal Backup, Vanilla Cop, Voyeur, Watcher
Roles which are explicitly Normal for Town include:
Vanilla Townie, Friendly Neighbor, Innocent Child, Mason, Miller, Vigilante, any roles listed "for any alignment"
Roles which are explicitly Normal for Mafia only include:
Mafia Goon, Encryptor, Godfather, Ninja, Strongman, Traitor, any roles listed as "for any alignment"
Roles which are explicitly Normal for Serial Killer only include:
Serial Killer, Investigation-Immune, Ninja, Strongman, any roles listed as "for any alignment"
Modifiers which are explicitly Normal for any alignment include:
Ascetic, Backup (with or without primary role present), Bulletproof, Enabler (with or without primary role present), Even/Odd Night, Macho, Neighbor, Non-Consecutive Night, Weak, X-Shot

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game

to clear some stuff up

[pirate mollie]

yep wicked is conftown

[pirate mollie]

I am glad that I looked this up cos now I can rule out pisskop being a lyncher cos I was starting to wonder if that was the source of his weird fixation on this slot.

wake is more than likely town since 2 scum neighbours wldn't pass review I think.

yeah those 2 slots are town.

eta: lol, a miller is not a variant role holy cow

[pirate mollie]

New/variant roles may be included in limited number (no more than 1 in a Mini, 2 in a Large), and should be based on the usual role mechanics: Killing, Protecting, Investigating, Blocking, Voting, Enabling and Communication.

[pirate mollie]

so rc, what do you think of pisskop now?

also pisskop if you answered my question I must have missed it!

[pirate mollie]

I want to hear your thoughts on everyone not called pisskop.

We have plenty of time to discuss your reads.

hey keyser

I am not really seeing where you scumread rc before your list. I do see where you went after pisskop which makes this post kind of strange.

[pirate mollie]

rc and pisskop are you guys gonna answer my questions?

[pirate mollie]

so rc, what do you think of pisskop now?

also pisskop if you answered my question I must have missed it!

[pirate mollie]

hey keyser

I am not really seeing where you scumread rc before your list. I do see where you went after pisskop which makes this post kind of strange.

Read from http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p7518997. Here, RadiantCowbells became a scum-lean (day two activity).

ty

I think rc is the optimal lynch for the day unless some1 can give me a good reason why not. if ap wanted to do mod fuckery he cld easily have put it in themes.

I still don't like titus's use of meta on rc and not doing a vca when she had 4 days to do 1 I think that slot is scum. I think zulfy might have replaced out cos he was being hard bussed and didn't like it.

nero was smart as fuck to clear wicked. I am only just now realizing what he was trying to do. sorry nero

@ wicked

hey bud we really need you right now!!! can you plz find some way to get engaged? pretty plz?

pisskop's

[pirate mollie]

See, this is fapterbation.

Keysor isnt explaining his scumreads.

yeah you tried this bullying bs with me all day in the previous by saying I was not producing content and not producing reads when I had done both way more than you.

are you going to answer my question or are you going to ignore it.

in b4 "what was the question"

[pirate mollie]

I'm 2-shot cop.

I'd like to at least live till tomorrow so I can out whether DN is ascetic or whether I got roleblocked.

If I'm getting lynched, you better lynch the shit out of Keyser and Titus tomorrow.

omg we are lynching this

[pirate mollie]

just in case any1 is confused

[pirate mollie]

I retain my shot and want to try to use it or force scum to kill me if we lynch the roleblocker.

I'm not being lynched today. flat out.

if scum force it through and town doesn't autolynch for it you deserve to lose.

if you were roleblocked like you are claiming then your shot is used up lol omg I know how this shit works this is like easily verifiable through normal set ups

[pirate mollie]

Nero CCed me and I lynched him for it. Go bitch at AP if you want to bitch at anyone.

Keyser has absolutely batshit bad associatives with Daves that I already pointed out and is now trying to strongarm a lynch onto cop.
Zulfy made a case for FA!scum contingent on RC!scum then voted FA and backtracked on the entire case when called out on it.

I made the right fucking play in any game where the mod wasn't a gigantic fucking troll

you cced nero. not the other way around.

ap wldn't troll in normals. or probably troll as a mod really. we have both been on the receiving end of unperceived mod fuckery.

[pirate mollie]

But I asked Mala about that in 557 and she said that if I targeted an ascetic/rolestop it wouldn't use a shot.

SO I want mod clarification.

in 557 of what

you cld also always ask deathy if he is an aesthetic his answer wld be telling

[pirate mollie]

I am still waiting for pisskop and rc to answer my questions

[pirate mollie]

I am also waiting for vc and to hear back from wicked

eta: xpost! I am waiting on some things to happen. can you repeat what you think of pisskop?

[pirate mollie]

Talking with PK last night also convinced me that he was town. I don't at all see any signs that he knew Nero was going to flip town.

But seriously, Zulfy just slipped. Can we lynch the fucking slip today and maybe it flips roleblocker and we don't have to do this shit?

no we are lynching you. if you are town then I am sorry but your claim wld have been infinitely more believable if you wld have full claimed when you were lynching nero. your play looks like a botched fakeclaim.

and no, you cced nero not the other way around. you insisting that this is not true does not make it so.

[pirate mollie]

Asking mod to confirm publicly that role blocks and ascetics do not consume shots of abilities

How this interaction works will depend on how individual role PMs are phrased. There is no hardfast rule about how these interactions will happen in this game.

can we have a vc pretty plz with sugar on top?

[pirate mollie]

and no, you cced nero not the other way around. you insisting that this is not true does not make it so.

I am a cop and he claimed role cop.

At the time I perceived it as him claiming the role I have. Counterclaiming me.

I counterclaimed him publicly, yes.

your play looks like a botched fakeclaim.

Botched?

How was this supposed to end well for me if I was mafia?

How does Scum!RC benefit from being put on a timer?

well

the obvs benefit is you get the role cop lynched while thinking you cld talk your way out of it. I am sure that that wld be the plan if you were scum.

I mean, if you are town then recognize that your lynch is optimal play and try to stop acting like survivalistic scum but I bet that will be hard for you cos you are probably scum.

[pirate mollie]

Mollie, answer me this: how was that post by Zulfy not a scum slip?

cos it is not a scumslip? at least not by my book.

I can show you what a scumslip looks like if you want.

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: mollie

I like this.

Why are you voting her though?

same reasons I was voting her yesterday. She's anti-town as shit and the lynch she pursued as an alternative to her own flipped town.

so what am I doing that is anti town?

[pirate mollie]

from the wiki link on normals:

Roles which are explicitly Normal for any alignment include:
Bodyguard, Commuter, Sane Cop, Doctor, Follower, Gunsmith, Jack of All Trades, Jailkeeper, Motion Detector, Neapolitan, Neighbor, Neighborizer, Roleblocker, Rolecop, Rolestopper, Tracker, Universal Backup, Vanilla Cop, Voyeur, Watcher
Roles which are explicitly Normal for Town include:
Vanilla Townie, Friendly Neighbor, Innocent Child, Mason, Miller, Vigilante, any roles listed "for any alignment"
Roles which are explicitly Normal for Mafia only include:
Mafia Goon, Encryptor, Godfather, Ninja, Strongman, Traitor, any roles listed as "for any alignment"
Roles which are explicitly Normal for Serial Killer only include:
Serial Killer, Investigation-Immune, Ninja, Strongman, any roles listed as "for any alignment"
Modifiers which are explicitly Normal for any alignment include:
Ascetic, Backup (with or without primary role present), Bulletproof, Enabler (with or without primary role present), Even/Odd Night, Macho, Neighbor, Non-Consecutive Night, Weak, X-Shot

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game

to clear some stuff up

yep wicked is conftown

look how anti-town i am!!!!!!

I cleared wicked. oh the horror!

[pirate mollie]

what is it that happens in normals and pple get mindboggingly dumb? I don't get it. it is why I usually avoid normals like the plague. but I wanted to help ap out.

[pirate mollie]

Wicked was one of the towniest slots in the game before he got confirmed.

I don't think anyone was seriously considering that Wicked may be a scum miller?

then you were not reading pisskop's posts

[pirate mollie]

We can talk about how you're trying to lynch the cop today.

Pretty effing anti town imo.

it isn't anti-town it is optimal play. any1 who plays mafia or strategy games wld know this.

[pirate mollie]

so why do you think that there is a role cop and a sane town cop in play rc

[pirate mollie]

Not being able to figure out whether DN is ascetic or not is not optimal play.

but that is who you chose to view! so if you really think he is an ascetic bp neighour sk I am not quite sure how you think we can solve this in any other way other than lynching you!

[pirate mollie]

Besides, when I die my reads have a tendency of getting ignored.

There's lynches that need to happen and I don't trust you guys to pull your shit together.

you have your top 2 townreads wantng to lynch me based on derptard reasons I lost for a town win long ago.

if ap is not going to do a vc then okay. idgf

VOTE: titus

I only politely asked for it twice.

[pirate mollie]

from the wiki link on normals:

Roles which are explicitly Normal for any alignment include:
Bodyguard, Commuter, Sane Cop, Doctor, Follower, Gunsmith, Jack of All Trades, Jailkeeper, Motion Detector, Neapolitan, Neighbor, Neighborizer, Roleblocker, Rolecop, Rolestopper, Tracker, Universal Backup, Vanilla Cop, Voyeur, Watcher
Roles which are explicitly Normal for Town include:
Vanilla Townie, Friendly Neighbor, Innocent Child, Mason, Miller, Vigilante, any roles listed "for any alignment"
Roles which are explicitly Normal for Mafia only include:
Mafia Goon, Encryptor, Godfather, Ninja, Strongman, Traitor, any roles listed as "for any alignment"
Roles which are explicitly Normal for Serial Killer only include:
Serial Killer, Investigation-Immune, Ninja, Strongman, any roles listed as "for any alignment"
Modifiers which are explicitly Normal for any alignment include:
Ascetic, Backup (with or without primary role present), Bulletproof, Enabler (with or without primary role present), Even/Odd Night, Macho, Neighbor, Non-Consecutive Night, Weak, X-Shot

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game

to clear some stuff up

yep wicked is conftown

look how anti-town i am!!!!!!

I cleared wicked. oh the horror!

yes, posting obvious as fuck shit is pro-town.

If only you knew about my naturally occurring perpetual sarcastic tone. Then you could hear, no,

see

it ooze through my teeth when I say this.

It's literally taking a list and saying miller is a normal role. Why this is pro-town to you is far beyond my inferior 14 year old mental capabilities. Please elaborate, not just for me, but for the whole town to hear your wisdom and take it to heart as our gospel. I await your response with a feverish temperament and a fire of anticipation in my heart.

pedit: why is everyone having a hissy fit over RC? Lynch someone else and have scum kill him, which they will. Leaving a cop alive is way more risky then NKing him. I also doubt RC would bus the shit out of his partner for no reason on D1.

oh. this is a lld alt.

that makes sense.

[pirate mollie]

who the fuck is lld? Usually they accuse me of being a GIF alt.

don't even try

VOTE: radiant cowbells

I donnae think he will flip town.

but ffs titus but it seems like she wld have nked me I think

[pirate mollie]

so titus/mollie 2morrow? open to keysor too

sure lynch me

try it

[pirate mollie]

@ ap - I think the game is a wash and you shld just call it. no1 is going to likely replace wake. call it, get the mods to support you and mebbe we can finally have a discussion in md about the sitewide don't be a dick rule that is largely ignored.

[pirate mollie]

@ ap - I think the game is a wash and you shld just call it. no1 is going to likely replace wake. call it, get the mods to support you and mebbe we can finally have a discussion in md about the sitewide don't be a dick rule that is largely ignored.

@ mod - mastina might do it. or mebbe marquis or hiplop

[pirate mollie]

why are you pushing for the game to be called? How silly. If every large called itself every time a slot went unfilled for a few days we'd never have a completed game.

the game is pure poison and I can only imagine that it is stressing ap out. you and rc are making the game unplayable. it doesn't help that nos/lld wants to lynch me just because. rc is already eating a suspension. whats ironic is that rc's name popped up and the person i was talking to said they thought rc was a dick and I stuck up for him. its funny how the very next night I can kind of see where they are coming from. I still like rc tho.

titus is the scummiest player on the site no matter what her role pm is and you guys are making her look good but i guess your options are getting closed off huh.

[pirate mollie]

Keyser is theorizing about a scum-team of 3 obvtown, I can't even tbh.

you are not obvtown like not even close.

the correct play is to lynch rc. also keser is thinking like town. he asked if wicked was conftown and wicked is. pisskop tried to throw shade on wicked by saying that he cld be a scum miller <----- no way is that a town mindset.

[pirate mollie]

Me/RC

Not Pirate mollie whose own immaturity has fueled it, or this being Laisse Fare RC and not that outrageous at that.

No mollie. Its all us and never you.

nope. i own my part in the shitwar. but i am pretty sure a cple of pple were chased out of the game before I got here including the slot I am currently in. zulfy specifically replaced out cos of rc.

[pirate mollie]

Me/RC

Not Pirate mollie whose own immaturity has fueled it, or this being Laisse Fare RC and not that outrageous at that.

No mollie. Its all us and never you.

nope. i own my part in the shitwar. but i am pretty sure a cple of pple were chased out of the game before I got here including the slot I am currently in. zulfy specifically replaced out cos of rc.

[pirate mollie]

You seem to have enough experience with Titus to know her and yet you arent willing to assess her in light of her slot's play an her own? Are you lazy or insulting her?

lol you are not going to be able to drive a wedge in between titus and I.

[pirate mollie]

Spoiler:

So if you all did lynch nero

A) what the hell yo

B) Are we going to lynch RC when he flips cop? Can we lynch mollie after that?

Who said nero claimed cop?

I didnt post the scoreboard yesterday cuz I was tired, I planned on doing so today but I have no time to format my scoreboard as I work the nfl game, but it's there, as a notepad file.

As I said before, RC is in the lead

Pedit: Im just tryna follow along to this torrent as best I can PK, didnt he?

Not at all

He said he investigated Wicked?

he did. he also claimed wicked returned 'Miller'

I'm the town role cop, I investigated wicked last and he came up as miller which is why I said he's town in my first post today.

Youve never weighed in on this.

because I didn't have to, it is a convo that was between you and zulfy.

[pirate mollie]

lol thats not what I said to do. Im saying that if you are town you are insulting all of us here by refusing to seperate her town and scum games. Theyre different enough.

Y U so scured of the titus pressure?

lol

scum always get so pissy when their plans get ruined.

it makes no sense for their to be a cop and role cop in the same game scum wld have to have a cannon to balance all of the potentially cleared town. the passed normal review and I am pretty sure ether is still the 1 who is reviewing normals I am telling you it wldn't have passed.

[pirate mollie]

Maybe I should just leave Titus' flawed arguement as to why Im scum alone, and let hr lynch me.


pedit: Nope

Wrong answer. Thats a part of the game, and you dont even have the decency to tell us how valid it is? How the hell can you simply avoid content like this? is it a scumslip, or isnt it. why? this is how we move the game foreward, and yet nobody seems to want to.

I already said that zulfy didn't scumslip. like a cple of times.

[pirate mollie]

Y doesnt it make sense for there to be a cop and a rolecop? do they do the same things, or get the same results?

nope but they functionally serve the same purpose. looking at the roles list for normals a role wld make sense since we can somewhat determine the alignment of some of the roles.

true story: in mine and ap's first game together we mislynched twice cos we convinced ourselves that there was a framer in the game. they updated the normals role lists after that and added framer to the non normals list.

here is the game:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=25367

[pirate mollie]

Do that instead of responding with inane posts. kthnx.

AHAHAHAHA

[pirate mollie]

two shot cop to cc the role cop leads to both prs dying and add in an ascetic bp sk balance.

how many games have you run dwlee?

[pirate mollie]

Since when has a rolecop determined alignment?

Because scum/town jailkeepers dont exist. Neither do scum/twon trackers, rolecops, neighbors, roleblockers, rolestoppers, docs, or cops.

I put a scum doc in my JoaT in my normal game. like serious? Right now, youre being serious?

I will use wicked as an example! there are no scum millers in normals

[pirate mollie]

Okay. So you have an exception to the rule. Cool.

u mad bro?

[pirate mollie]

u sound mad

[pirate mollie]

Mollie is still ignoring questions that dont have convenient answers for her. Its clear we are done here.

Once you guys get done lynching RC Ill be around to help you get back on track.

I haven't ignored jackshit. you just don't like the answers, like you sound like you really hate the fact that wicked is cleared town.

[pirate mollie]

Where have I shown that I hate wicked clearing?

See mollie, you can say a whole bunch of stuff, but you can never back it up.

here:

No. miller can exist as either. And since there was no alignment in the role there no reason to believe he is confed.

and here:

Well there we go. Itd take up 1 nonnormal slot of this large.

then you got pissy.

you have been blatantly lying about what I have been doing all game. the narrative on keyser looks forced and it is bad cos you are doing the same thing to him that you did to me.

rc shld have viewed me like he said he was going to, not view some1 whom he was solidly thinking was a sk. rc;s cop claim looks like a botched fakeclaim which is what I have already said. you are defending him and yet every now and then you throw out a little suspicion on him my guess it is to distance from him.

[pirate mollie]

I dont agree with mollie being town for asking you for something thats a staple from you.

My case on mollie is far from non-issues, and Im not getting how you think it is. Its probably because you havent read?

your entire case case on me is made up and not based in reality what so ever.

its like you say these things and think that if you repeat yourself it somehow makes it true.

eta: froggy has jar jar has keysor has and titus you just are not hearing what you wanna hear.

[pirate mollie]

I don't.

That's why I think it's not a slip. "Cop" and "role cop" are not mutually exclusive descriptors.

P-edit: he said that after the 'slip', but I believe that's what he meant all along. That's how I read his 'slip' post...

THANK YOU!!!!

[pirate mollie]

Lol @ mollie telling me that Im the one repeating montras.

I have post after post quoting you saying the exact same thing and even Frogger told you to stop and shut up about it. But youve suddenly conveniently forgot it now that he's dead, hunh?

froggy never told me to stop and shut up he told us both to stay away from each other and focus on other things.

posts like this are why i think you are scum cos you keep lying over and over again it is just as bad as rc rewriting history by saying nero cc'd him when it was clearly the other way around.

[pirate mollie]

froggy has jar jar has keysor has and titus you just are not hearing what you wanna hear.

have they? Just quote them then.

I see them call you town, but nowhere are they giving more than situational reasons. Like titus saying 'he demanded vca'?

no way in hell am I gonna do your busy work for you

every1 has given reasons that you keep trying to ignore while insisting that no1 is giving reasons. you keep trying to tie up the game in circular thought processes that is scum 101. rc's view choice on deathy makes zero sense but by all means ignore it.

[pirate mollie]

Here's where I'm at right now...

Comfortably town reading: Dwlee99, Keyser, pisskop, Titus

Slight town lean: DN, mollie

Neutral;
Firebringer (didn't like Cow's most recent catchup post, not sure why he earned town credit for it)
JarJar (felt good about his day 1 stuff, the town read has kinda faded though)
Nosferatu
RC (I was strong town reading him yesterday, but am reconsidering after Nero's flip and today's events)
Wake (I like his replace out, but that's the only positive thing I can say)

pisskop shld not in anyway shape or form be a townread for you, do you think deathy is an sk and I waffle on dwlee. wake is likely town since there has already been a scum neighbour flip.

if pisskop and rc are town and we lose cos of their shit play I am gonna be pissed.

[pirate mollie]

Normally I'd support letting the cop claim survive to investigate again, but it seems very unlikely that he'll have a result for us tomorrow even if he's town.

I'll be honest, even though I am skeptical of RC, I wasn't aware that two investigative roles in one large game was the big no no that people are describing it as.

the passed normal review and I am pretty sure ether is still the 1 who is reviewing normals I am telling you it wldn't have passed.

Do you have any evidence of Ether being opposed to two cop setups?


If we're setup speccing, one issue I have with RC is that a 2-shot cop just seems kinda out of place / random. I can't understand RC thinking he's the only investigative role in a large normal when he only has two shots...

On the other hand, I'm struggling to see RC-scum make this play too.

no wicked, it is just things that ether has discussed in site chat and I have a feel for how she thinks. I have had limited shot roles before where I was roleblocked and the shot was used up. rc's claim is like 50 shades of wrong. it isn't a nono to have 2 investigative roles in the game but I feel like it is unlikely since funtionally the roles can possibly serve the same purpose albeit town role cop is the weaker of the 2 but that wld make more sense then having both in the same game.

I wld still like to hear titus's vca tho and it is worrying me that keysor seems giddy. but pisskop's play is VERY scum motivated.

if there is a doubt in your mind that I am not town then freaking lynch me cos I am so fucking done with this game.

[pirate mollie]

no way in hell am I gonna do your busy work for you

This is because it doesnt exist. But you know what, you keep saying it does and maybe just like you kept shouting about how I was trying to push you for meta before you replaced in and maybe somebody will believe you.

erm, I never said you were pushing me for meta yeah?

you keep making shit up

[pirate mollie]

pisskop's play is VERY scum motivated.

how? Like im beating my head on a wall here trying to decide if youre actually pushing this because you believe it or are scum.


-You scumread people until the stop suspecting you.

-You ignore questions like:

Mollie, I'd like a link to your last town game that you

REPLACED INTO.

and answers to your own questions like the 6 times I answered your question and the 3 times I quoted those 6 answers and the 3-4 times I answered Frogs/jar's Questions about this same subject

-You promise to read, and then just off that the soonest you can. You put forward nothing that suggests you even ISOed dave, and your excuse for not reading was that RC voted you and you got mad.

-You repeat these montras and oppurtunistically push new points when other people introduce them. When yelling at people didnt work you started telling them that you were hurt and that they were being unfair and that I was being sexist. You keep pulling up new ways to try to win people over instead of consistantly doing any of them. Or you know, dropping the emotional appeals and using game logic.

-Ive laid out cases on you, and Ive told you Im tired of it. Ive explained how youre anti-town, and Ive tried to engage you. Theres nothing in the way of content that can be examined on later days to tie you to reads and opinions. And thats scumy in itself.

-Youre not doing yourself favors, and when RC goes and flips town its Titus then you.

well

nero and I had just finished a game where we were both town that we referenced. like it is literally in this thread soyeah i did answer his question.

but keep the lies coming!!!!

[pirate mollie]

Hi remember the part where you had scum cases to construct?

^^ Keysor

you mean the big long walls that you complained about and wanted ap to spoiler tag them?

yeah those

[pirate mollie]

Hi remember the part where you had scum cases to construct?

^^ Keysor

you mean the big long walls that you complained about and wanted ap to spoiler tag them?

yeah those

[pirate mollie]

I am not answering you cos I am tired pisskop and I think your deathtunnel is hugely scummy. you change your narrative whenever you are refuted and then flood the game with bullshit and do nothing but lie deflect and pretend that things do not exist. you pull posts up to push your narrative while accusing other players of doing that and you have been doing this the entire game. you look desperate.

we are lynching rc today cos it is the correct play. you look like unhappy scum right now.

eta: keysor has given a recent read on you see this is you bullshitting and mist spreading cos it isn't like you have done anything town since then.

anyways I am done. I am back to thinking ap shld call it. you are making the game fucking unplayable and i think you are doing this as scum cos your goal is to try to wear pple down in order to induce apathy cos your posts are bullshit and you keep driving circular arguments and when they are addressed you move to another point only to keep coming back to the same bad points after that is refuted.

it is why I have no interest in playing this game with you. you are

lying

and have repeatedly lied throughout the whole game. your posts are very scum motivated and are not trying to sort things out only push a tired ass narrative that no1 is interested in following.

I am at the point where I don't give a fuck. hey! now you and rc can call me legitimately anti-town!

[pirate mollie]

strictly on my ignore list with the exception of general questions.

so in other words you are not going to answer keysor's question while scumreading me for....not answering questions when I did.

okay

[pirate mollie]

After my flip you're going to lynch these 3 people in this order.

Titus -> Keyser -> Mollie

If you're going to play a 13 day day phase where you talk about future actions based off of an inaccurate flip all you're going to do is completely tunnel yourself on the wrong people.

PK is town. Dwleee is null but not a scumread. The 3 mentioned above are scum.

I'm just about done here.

so you think there are 4 scum plus an sk in a 16 player game? do tell.

you KNEW that nos/lld was going to continue to vote me today I MEAN THEY PRETTY MUCH INDICATED THAT WERE GONNA LYNCH ME NO MATTER WHAT and I find it hard to believe that you did not think that pisskop was gonna stop pushing me after a town!nero flip. you have let him trash me all game when you cld have yanked him off of me at any point in time. do you know how 1 way you cld have done that? by viewing me. I was unlikely to be nked and it wld have given town cleared town. instead you used on some1 you were sure was the sk when nobody was arguing that deathy was not the sk. so no, if you are town it was terrible play and a terrible way to use your role and I guess I think you are better than that.

^ this is why I think you are scum rc. if you are town then I am truly sorry. if you are town then fucking get pisskop and nos/lld off my back and help me.

UNVOTE:

I need to think about some things.

@ titus - I was under the impression that your vca last night was preliminary and that you were gonna do more today and now today you are saying that you gave it last night. not to mention what you coughed up last night does NOT look like a town!you vca.

[pirate mollie]

Post 5183 is near perfection. The only thing I disagree with mollie on was that it was anti-town to post it.

it was anti-town to post what? my post?

[pirate mollie]

okay i follow you

[pirate mollie]

you KNEW that nos/lld was going to continue to vote me today I MEAN THEY PRETTY MUCH INDICATED THAT WERE GONNA LYNCH ME NO MATTER WHAT and I find it hard to believe that you did not think that pisskop was gonna stop pushing me after a town!nero flip. you have let him trash me all game when you cld have yanked him off of me at any point in time. do you know how 1 way you cld have done that? by viewing me. I was unlikely to be nked and it wld have given town cleared town. instead you used on some1 you were sure was the sk when nobody was arguing that deathy was not the sk. so no, if you are town it was terrible play and a terrible way to use your role and I guess I think you are better than that.

^ this is why I think you are scum rc. if you are town then I am truly sorry. if you are town then fucking get pisskop and nos/lld off my back and help me.

I'm not voting you. I'm voting Titus.

I'm still not sure if I trust you because of how you 180'd your super strong townread on me.

I agree that, particularly considering that he is prob ascetic, it was a bad check. I should have checked you but I got into some huge DN paranoia last night.

Help me lynch scum and we can move forward from there.

it isn't paranoia when you think he is an exposed sk, it looks like you are throwing your use of your "ability" away by wasting it on some1 who you were already convinced was the sk. <------- this is why it looks like a botched fakeclaim.

so you didn't answer my question; do you think it is 4 scum + sk in a 16 player game? with no secondary nks?

the numbers don't play out.

[pirate mollie]

wHoly cow. Buddy some.

rc if you were town this ^ is the shit you shld be stopping. his deathtunnel doesn't even make sense anymore and I really feel like a town!you wld have seen this and called him out on it.

eta: then that is shit play cos this is normals and reasonable expectations are in place. 4 scum + sk makes zero sense in a 16 player game you seem to play a lot of normals you shld know this.

[pirate mollie]

Also, remember the way Zulfy slot jumped on you early D1?

That scum flip would pretty much clear you as well, no?

no it wldn't. cos i was not here for d1. also cos town get derpy all of the time plus zulfy is new plus I put him in teenage age range guess who is not posting like they are from the teenage age range. I think nos/lld might be town tho. just being passive aggressive about some imagined slight.

[pirate mollie]

Why would RC be responsble for my behavior? Youre trying to guilt people into helping you instead of living up to the standards that nobody else seems to have issues with.

Titus is certainly taking advantage of your conversation with RC to drop so sickening posts.

Titus hasnt said boo to RC, and now she's following suit behind you despite not having time to contribuite?

rc I wld really love it if you cld explain the town motivation of these posts. cos i don't see any especially since if he were town and thought we were scum together the posts wldn't be "sickening" they wld be construed as scum working together but that is not his angle.

HE HAS BEEN LYING ABOUT WHAT PLAYERS HAVE BEEN DOING THE ENTIRE TIME I HAVE BEEN IN THIS GAME.

the froggy nk looks like a fire nk tbh. froggy can read fire pretty well.

[pirate mollie]

We can try this for kids:

You try to appeal to me as being a fed up townie ala 5200.
You then criticize my attempts to imagine you as town.

Or were you just acting when you posted 5200?

STOP MISREPRESENTING ME!!!!

I NEVER SAID OR IMPLIED THAT I THOUGHT YOU WERE TOWN COS I DON'T. YOU ARE TRYING TO CONSTRUCT A LOGIC CHAN THAT DOES NOT EXIST AND YOU HAVE BEEN DOING THIS ALL GAME AND I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY RC KEEPS IGNORING IT. HIS ANSWER WILL GIVE ME INSIGHT INTO RC.

[pirate mollie]

PK is hard defending me at a point where it would be far easier for scum to just let my lynch go through.

Especially when I'm cop.

I understand where his meta read on FA came from, I understand why he'd be so certain about your slot's alignment, and I think PK is not always consistent even as town.

I don't consider him being scum to be a real possibility; he has no motivation defending me here. Even after my townflip I don't think he'd get towncred for it because people would just say he's white knighting anyway, and he's pretty abrasive in general and with scum slots leading the lynches right now I could easily see him getting lynched later even after I'm confirmed town.

And yeah, I strongly dislike the Fire slot right now, if only because it random voted me and I feel like scum chat was all about quicklynching me today.

he wld have every motivation to hard defend you if you were scum with him which is what i thought earlier in this day round and said so.

how about we talk about his shitty read on me. tell me more about that.

[pirate mollie]

We can try this for kids:

You try to appeal to me as being a fed up townie ala 5200.
You then criticize my attempts to imagine you as town.

Or were you just acting when you posted 5200?

the post is not even directed to you I am talking to rc. I am trying to sort his reasoning out cos his claim looks like a botched fakeclaim.

you keep painting a scenario that is divorced from reality. and you wonder why I think you are scum. and you wonder why I think rc is your buddy for not even looking at your posts. I am trying to read rc cos I think he is the better player and if I can somehow manage to formulate a townread on him it will give me insight into you. so far I am just thinking that he is scum.

both of you are stonewalling me like you are totally ignoring that rc is not answering my question about whether or not he really thinks there are 4 scum + 1 sk in a 16 player set up. and trying to mask it as "oh I only look for scum independently" when I know this is a lie.

[pirate mollie]

he wld have every motivation to hard defend you if you were scum with him which is what i thought earlier in this day round and said so.

how about we talk about his shitty read on me. tell me more about that.

If your case on him involves me flipping scum then it's a broken case.

why wld that be

[pirate mollie]

If there are 4 scum, I do not think there is an SK.

I believe that there are two possible setups here:

3 scum + 1 SK
4 main faction scum

okay so do you think that deathy is an ascetic bp sk still?

[pirate mollie]

why wld that be

because I am the goddamn cop and will flip the goddamn cop and if you're town you're sheeping a maf wagon that can easily be pushed on you tomorrow.

I unvoted you.

cos the feels pull at the heartstrings so I have been trying to sort you both. mostly you rc cos a town flip from you wld sort pisskop for me.

but neither of your reasoning makes sense and it just looks like scum theatre at this point.

VOTE: radiant cowbells

like I literally don't give a fuck. rc totally fucked town over if he is actually a cop by not viewing me. he had every reason to do so but instead is giving a throwaway view on a player he was already reading as sk and nobody was disagreeing with it. this is why I think the claim is fake.

[pirate mollie]

So the main reason thats bullshit is because it is soooo much more likely and easier to just say you were roleblocked instead of assuming something like Ascetic.

My initial reaction would always be roleblocked then maybe my target was jailed or something. Ascetic is so far down the list. You are just hugging to that because you don't want to lose credit by dropping your guns. In reality, you are just scum who is trying to survive another day because thats a huge win for you and your team.

I most likely won't be lynching deathy in the near future!

[pirate mollie]

So the main reason thats bullshit is because it is soooo much more likely and easier to just say you were roleblocked instead of assuming something like Ascetic.

My initial reaction would always be roleblocked

then maybe my target was jailed or something

. Ascetic is so far down the list. You are just hugging to that because you don't want to lose credit by dropping your guns. In reality, you are just scum who is trying to survive another day because thats a huge win for you and your team.

You can investigate jailed targets. Are you talking about your SK kill?

hey guys call me crazy but this is what an actual scumslip looks like!

[pirate mollie]

Who are you proposing we wagon instead?

I could do DeathNote, Keyser, or Mollie.

Do you think RC is scum? If so, vote her. No shiny distractions. I think Mollie is obvtown and have less than zero desire to vote her.

Note distancing from my town flip by calling me a shiny distraction as opposed to scum.

what happened to your confscum read on titus?

lemme guess you just wanna lynch whoever you can as long as they are not on your scumteam.

nos/lld you are such a nasty piece of work but I bet no1 will give a shit that you are playing directly against your wc cos I know that if you are town you wld know that I was too but by all means hide behind passive aggressive alt hiding bs

[pirate mollie]

what happened to your confscum read on titus?

lemme guess you just wanna lynch whoever you can as long as they are not on your scumteam.

I'd rather lynch someone who has a chance of being scum over risking the lynch of a town PR before they use their second shot.

If you'd stop voting me like a complete weapon I could stick it out with regards to pushing little miss moonlogic over there.

Otherwise, I have to seek other lynches. Or at least I do once the game resumes.

you wanting to lynch me cos....I am voting you when I was a townread in the previous day round does not inspire a townread from me. you literally look like you want to lynch any1 but pisskop, you, dwlee and nos/lld which is the very definition of opportunism.

[pirate mollie]

RC, have you tried to lynch jarjar yet? Or Wake?

pisskop's lynch pool: me, titus, jar jar, wake, keyser

like he is not even pretending to try to find scum.

wicked plz just do it

VOTE: radiant cowbells

[pirate mollie]

Who are you proposing we wagon instead?

I could do DeathNote, Keyser, or Mollie.

Do you think RC is scum? If so, vote her. No shiny distractions. I think Mollie is obvtown and have less than zero desire to vote her.

Note distancing from my town flip by calling me a shiny distraction as opposed to scum.

what happened to your confscum read on titus?

lemme guess you just wanna lynch whoever you can as long as they are not on your scumteam.

nos/lld you are such a nasty piece of work but I bet no1 will give a shit that you are playing directly against your wc cos I know that if you are town you wld know that I was too but by all means hide behind passive aggressive alt hiding bs

Mollie, calm down. This is a game where scum aren't going to bus unless forced to. RC and Pisskop are scum that need to be lynched by town unity. I don't know who the other scum is/are. Yelling at people and saying they are pieces of work will not be effective.

Let me guide these lynches. I trust you. Let me do this.

I am not letting you guide shit I wanted rc lynched when nero flipped.

don't taalk to me in that condescending patronizing voice again and you can stfu about me calling nos/lld a piece of work I mean stay the fuck out of it

[pirate mollie]

we are lynching rc period end of story.

that is what we are doing cos that is the correct play. set up design in no way shape or form points to a role cop and a town cop in the same game. rc is playing purely from a survivalistic mindset at this point he doesn't give a shit who is lynched as long as they are not on his scumteam.

[pirate mollie]

if you make me deal 1 more day with pisskop's bs I will hunt you down and pee on your shoe, keyser.

VOTE: pisskop

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: pisskop

kinda thinking it's PK and fire.

I am not happy about fire either!

I think dwlee is just young tbh. I think he just got caught up in everything.

[pirate mollie]

cant fix stupid I guess

so who do you think is stupid pisskop?

[pirate mollie]

lol @mollie can still be scum.

11:3:2?
or the sk?
11:4:1 still does work

we are lynching pisskop today. period end of story.

no1 has claimed doc or jk and there has not been a second nk like ever. I am sure there is some kind of protective role this game. if deathy is sk he is helping us lynch scum so back off.

[pirate mollie]

what are aliens?

They are powerful scum, but only have 1 night kill the entire game.
I don't know if they feature in Normal games on here? Could be cult? Werewolf? It doesn't matter right now.

All we know is that AngryPigeon would not have thrown in a Mafia Cop for no reason. I say we still hunt mafia today.

none of that is in normals and I even linked to the normals game roles.

[pirate mollie]

if you make me deal 1 more day with pisskop's bs I will hunt you down and pee on your shoe, keyser.

Can we please have no in-fighting today We're in a stronger position now.

good then you won't mind lynching pisskop.

[pirate mollie]

There cant be a cult in a normal. Fuck cults.
So who is that teammate nos?

[pirate mollie]

I don't appreciate being threatened @RC, even if it is just you spouting nonsense because you were lynched.

I think the lynch is between PK or Dwlee correct? Is it possible for someone to buddy and defend his scumpartner as hard as Dwlee did? Jeeze, he made some crazy posts that look scummy as all hell after an RC scum flip but no scum in their right mind would stick there neck out for their cop claimed partner right?

I guess if he was bad enough and knew the cop claim was legit, then he would have tried a little harder convincing people.

What was RC's original target when he claimed cop? He didn't start off with me, who was it that he fakeclaimed on?

@MOD- is wake getting replaced?

aero!

who conveniently died. but he was supposed to view me on n2 but didn't probs cos I had already claimed vt.

I have a bunch of stuff I really wanna say!

[pirate mollie]

I don't appreciate being threatened @RC, even if it is just you spouting nonsense because you were lynched.

I think the lynch is between PK or Dwlee correct? Is it possible for someone to buddy and defend his scumpartner as hard as Dwlee did? Jeeze, he made some crazy posts that look scummy as all hell after an RC scum flip but no scum in their right mind would stick there neck out for their cop claimed partner right?

I guess if he was bad enough and knew the cop claim was legit, then he would have tried a little harder convincing people.

What was RC's original target when he claimed cop? He didn't start off with me, who was it that he fakeclaimed on?

@MOD- is wake getting replaced?

are you getting PMs about the game from rc too?

the game is broken IMO

[pirate mollie]

It was a fake guilty on titus.

sure that is exactly what happened.

[pirate mollie]

keyser it is still playable IMO only cos I have been on other sites where we had PMs.

I thought rc was just raging but no he is still trying to play mafia despite his lynch.

[pirate mollie]

It was a fake guilty on titus.

sure that is exactly what happened.

to start yesterday, RC said he had a redcheck on titus and retracted it 10 minutes later.

link?

[pirate mollie]

How have my posts been scummy?

I think you scumslipped D1 tbh.

so why exactly have you not brought this before now?

[pirate mollie]

like he has not even showed up on your radar

[pirate mollie]

Like a townie that realizes his reads have been completely garbage should maybe try to listen to the people that have been carrying the town.

[pirate mollie]

I am wanting to lynch Pisskop today but have Mollie and I hammer.

I want to eliminate moon logic scenarios. However, discussing them here would likely detract from lynching Pisskop which is what we need to do.

Although Dwelee is posting total crap attacking townreads, he's using facts in the thread.

Mollie, if you are willing to look into my moonlogic scenarios not involving you scum. That would be great.

Keysor, I would like you to look into moon logic scenarios involving Mollie. (I don't want to ankle bite her but at the same time, I want to eliminate things.)

we are lynching pisskop today. unless you wanna lynch lld. those are the only 2 I will vote.

[pirate mollie]

After glancing at colored vcs pk looks suspicerous

But I am town nos :/

sk. I am very doubtful he is groupscum

if you are town then shut up about an sk when there hasn't been a nk.

I don't think he is. if he is then he will not win the game cos there is no endgame with him as an sk and winning scenario.

the person you just spent talking to flipped scum. lemme spell it out for you:

rc flipped scum

. if you even have where you feel like you are not that confused then listen to the pple who are not as confused as you.

we are lynching deathy over my dead body. at least for right now.

[pirate mollie]

How have my posts been scummy?

I think you scumslipped D1 tbh.

so why exactly have you not brought this before now?

because it was brought up several times already?

can you point to me where you pointed it out once I joined the game?

[pirate mollie]

oh you did. okay.

eta: why is pisskop not lynched yet.

[pirate mollie]

Hey guys. There's a helluva lot of pages to work through so give me around 2 days.
Looking forward to playing with you all.

YES

plz be town. are you town? plz be town.

I don't think I am crazy about pisskop.

[pirate mollie]

Jarjar you seriously saying I am scum? Just on wanting DN dead?
DN is likely SK

I think you might be scum. You're nowhere near who I want to lynch today though.

DN is not scum.

Like I've said: @ best he's an serial killer that hasn't killed. He's a terrible lynch today.

Who would you rather lynch: PK or dwlee?

[pirate mollie]

if any1 even squints at jar jar I will do...something.

can some1 plz explain how pisskop is alive ty.

[pirate mollie]

Okay. So I'd like some answers to help me catch up. the more answers I get, the better.

Which people should I be paying close attention to while I catch up?
Which people, if any, have claimed?
What are everyone's reads right now?

I'd like answers before I catch up. I understand that this will prevent me from getting an organic perspective but I am confident in my abilty to avoid confbias, and the fact that I am posing this question to everyone really gives me context as to the progression of everyone's thoughts.

you shld pay attention to rc cos he totally cosigned on pisskop's bullshit and pisskop is voting dwlee now that he can not get away with deathtunneling on my slot. cos he has been doing it since the start of the game. LIKE SINCE D1 THAT IS WHY FA REPLACED OUT.

LYNCH HIM

[pirate mollie]

we are lynching deathy over my dead body

This is why PK is a better lynch than Dwlee people. Cause PK is pushing for Dwlee and Dwlee is pushing for DN. DN isn't lynchable today.

If PK is town and Dwlee is scum then Dwlee pushes PK as an easy mislynch.

If Dwlee is town and PK is scum then PK pushes Dwlee as an easy mislynch.

Scum Dwlee pushing DN only really makes sense if PK is scum also in which case lynching PK is still fine.

how shitty.

Id have a hemorrhage if I tried to shoehorn somebody that hard based on hurt feels

lol

I love irony.

vote pisskop for justice.

[pirate mollie]

mollie:
insistent that we lynch pisskop
"we are lynching deathy over my dead body"
thinks dwlee is just young hmm
not happy about fire

you aren't reading are you

[pirate mollie]

whatever floats your boat ragaholic.

I was pushing mollie for his shit nero push since he started ignoring nero's Qs.

If you arent going to actually read and consider the possibilites just stop trying. I dont have the energy to go back and keep retrieving all the posts about how shitty a nero lynch would look for mollie, but your cherry picking is noted.

AHAHAHAHA

[pirate mollie]

God bless ig you read all the posts.

you and rc did a fantastic job of making the game unreadable!

[pirate mollie]

Dont worry i will read this game if it kills me
I might glaze over some stuff but im only human
Does anyone have thoughts on my catchup
Btw when i said i was taking a break from mafia that meant playing more mafia

you replaced into a hood with a flipped scum in a normals game. you are pretty safe for now!

I just want this game to end and we have it poe-ed out I think, pisskop is likely scum. I thought pisskop looked scummier than rc but lynching rc was the correct play. look at who argued against that. pisskop and dwlee.

[pirate mollie]

Nos too but not as directly.

which shld put her ahead of dwlee but I think she is an alt.

[pirate mollie]

VOTE PISSKOP FOR JUSTICE!!!

[pirate mollie]

oh shut up.

thanks for confirming titus and errant for town!

[pirate mollie]

titus why are you not voting pisskop?

[pirate mollie]

its because titus is a chronic tunneler and this lynch is vendetta qnd also its crap

coming from the person who has deathtunneled on my slot the entire game.

[pirate mollie]

mod - I have to out too. sorry

[pirate mollie]

For the record, I foresaw Zulfy at the beginning of Day 2 making this game utterly unwinnable no matter what we did, combined with Mollie and FA and PK fighting making this game virtually unplayable for me so I just wanted the game done and me to not have to play it.

GG!

I think you shld by all means continue to blame all of your problems on me.

ty ap <3

sorry I had to replace out

eta: titus, GO FIRE <3

[pirate mollie]

Well that's done.

GG

Thanks for modding AP

Sorry DN.

Absolutely no offense meant.

Oh please, I don't take offense very often.

I appreciate the apology though.

once, deathy and i were walking to the grocery store and he kept trying to walk on the outside and I was LOOK I AM OLDER AND MORE EXPENDABLE.

[pirate mollie]

G A M E O F T H E Y E A R
But seriously, thank you all for playing. Ultimately town had a good game despite the craziness going on. I wasn't entirely sure how this setup would go from a design perspective. Its intentionally light on town power to accommodate the traitor role. I'd hoped that the Traitor role would be interesting to play in a neighborhood with a town and a teammate. The town neighbor ended up being bulletproof in this setup because otherwise it would make sense for the traitor to claim in the neighborhood N1 and have mafia shoot the townie. The traitor was "informed" of the exact roles of the 2 people in the neighborhood with them so that they wouldn't accidentally attempt the aforementioned trick and shoot a bulletproof townie just to out two scum in the process.

thank you ap <3

[pirate mollie]

sorry nero

will you forgive meh

[pirate mollie]

sorry nero

will you forgive meh

fuck off

you love me and you know it