BooneyToonz Extravaganza: LAST NIGHT TOMORROW
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Starting to read now, I'm working for 8 hours BUT I assume I can read something like.. ~4 hours of that.
That's work for you.
I'll do lots of walling and quotes and stupid self-pondering while catching up, (and I REFUSE TO CHECK WHO HAS FLIPPED SO FAR OR WHAT), and I won't be checking new posts while I do that.
So hold your questions until the end of my self-entitled monologue.
Thanks!"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Was gonna quack in my first post, good to see that Theta did that too!In post 27, Theta Alpine wrote:quack
might just have to steal a quirk of his then
surely nothing will go wrong with that
QUACK."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I like the idea.In post 49, DrewVa wrote:idk if you guys know this but if there's literally no consequence to votes then there is no reason to not use them
it's just a way to indicate thought processes in this case
the one big appeal being that there's no risk of an actual quickhammer from anyone other than the four dayenders
Then again, it's easy to come up with and use it for posing too.
There's an agenda here.In post 57, Elsa Jay wrote:But voting in-thread and later contradicting yourself with a different vote will end horribly.
Besides, if votes are at the end of the day, it could even be PR hints of who they're checking OR of who they checked and confirmed evil if they're dead.
I, for 1, will use my vote as a hint.
If nothing else, Elsa doesn't want it to become a fully approved practice within the game. (it would be harder to argue for not doing it, if literally everyone else is)
I already am that duck. I think.In post 76, RCEnigma wrote:If you turn someone into a companion duck for TW I will concede.
Or are we all ducks? I mean, the ones who aren't explicitly not-ducks?
Well.I claim duck anyway."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I really disagree with saying that it's harder for scum.In post 239, BrightEyedFish wrote:I get that, but I think keeping the votes hidden makes it harder for scum. If you want to post who you are voting for go ahead but just be careful because scum could be a Day Representative and end the day early if they see a wagon building on town.
A good scumplayer wouldn't mind voting a buddy on accident (or for distancing), as long as they can provide magnificent BS for justification.
And there's always good room for an "accidental wagon" as an explanation if the day ends suddenly."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Scummy vibes from this whole discussion.In post 138, DrewVa wrote:
I don’t know if I’m allowed to say that part of my role PM or not.In post 136, RCEnigma wrote:Let me skim the rules, don't know if you can say your wincon(?)
Yes, I just checked it and there’s a 2nd part.
+In post 161, BrightEyedFish wrote:Why did you use the word "If" as if you are just guessing what a Town Role PM says.
Such blatant bs.In post 162, BrightEyedFish wrote:SLIP-a-dee-doo-dah, SLIP-a-dee-ay
My, oh, my, what a wonderful day...
I've rarely seen worse "almost slips", faked slips and forced slips.
Slipslipslip.
OK, yea.....This should be lynched.In post 179, BrightEyedFish wrote:Ok you're right... on the 2nd point.
But I don't think someone who is town writes IF there. You don't have to see this IF as damning as I do, but don't forget it later on.
The devil is in the details.IFfor nothing else, then at least for making the discussing environment more healthy.
S_S with the most accurate description of the whole game so far..In post 206, Something_Smart wrote:How did you guys manage to add seven pages while I was asleep without saying anything useful.
Either this is a player who likes to dish out <--> retract townreads more, or this is way too early for so many names.In post 229, Karmeleon wrote:My other townreads are Gamma Emerald, RCEnigma, Ramcius and BrightEyedFish
Gutreads and soulreads aside, there hasn't been nearly enough AI-content for 4+ townreads.
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Feels like posing. Something like #worriedtownie.In post 279, Karmeleon wrote:We should vote as normal and do a votecount every like two pages.
I need to know who's the spotlight.
My thoughts EXACTLY. Nev&Max giving good vibes so far.In post 281, Nev and Max wrote:Is that going to help you explain the townreads you have on the 5 you have said you are townreading? I guess I'll have to wait until after for you to answer the question I asked way before that post was made. Just saying.
Not liking these either.In post 283, Karmeleon wrote:Elsa Jay: Can't tell. It's mostly just setup spec.
Almost Chara: Okay, one post was enough to convince me they're town for now.
Gonna say Karmeleon might just be my top scumread so far.
Neck to neck with that spiky fish.
Agreed-o. Lighting Car off with a good start.In post 296, mcqueen wrote:Relying on spirit of game is scummy. It just leaves town with as little information as possible, and that’s exactly the opposite of what we want.
Again, yes.In post 302, mcqueen wrote:But if scum have day talk, they can bunch their votes without posting here and we’d never know
A very good, original thought.
For now, this should be our leading town-voice.
Wait, why them? They have so far been possibly the least suspicious..?In post 316, Gamma Emerald wrote:Ok. I guess I find Nev and Max a little questionable.
--SO NEV&MAX PUT SOME GOOD PRESSURE ON KARMELEON AND THIS IS WHAT HE HAS TO SAY AFTER.--
I think Boon said this was on D2 when he asked me to sub in, so we should have at least one lynch so far.In post 330, Karmeleon wrote:Sometimes I'd rather not explain reads though, because from now on I can no longer trust my previous statement for example.
I really hope it was this lizard."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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This is close to N_M level of posting.In post 348, Elsa Jay wrote:Leave the cheeky one alone. Consume the fish.
I'm not entirely 100% sure if it's a good thing..
At least this isn't scum with the fish.In post 356, The Last Knight wrote:I did smell scum flakes when I read BEF's posts but I also see the chance of it being too much pot stirring to be scum. It's too attention grabbing. So I see this as trolling, at least for now.
Scumpartner would rather go for the push I'd say.
And so would scum!Knight vs town!fish.
Fish has been lynchbaity enough to not raise suspicions on wagon even with a town-flip.
So simply put - Knight is more than likely town here.
+In post 371, RCEnigma wrote:I'm not scumreading drewva. I'm semi-content with what I got out of it. I like Bef pushing there even if it was based on miscommunication. They are both just town here Imo.
Huh..and I seem to have nearly opposite first impression on all of these slots. Except maybe DVa.In post 374, RCEnigma wrote:One of Nero/the last knight, nev and max rubs me the wrong way but I can't put my finger on it, A50/Chara aren't out of their scumrange. Those aren't necessarily all scumreads since I don't have strong scumreads yet and I prefer to townhunt early.
Oh wow. And who is this?In post 399, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Karmelon and RCE are town here.
And so are you, right?In post 418, Thanos wrote:Similar slip here; town methinks. Also, this is one of the slots whose ISO actually feels like they're trying to gamesolve, I appreciate that.
Nev and Max are town.
#ThanosDidNothingWrong
Had the same gutfeeling from the last few posts.In post 466, profii wrote:Hmm salty Nero is usually scum Nero
What is it?In post 488, Alonzo wrote:Shit
Oh no, what is it?In post 489, Alonzo wrote:Shit
Shut up.In post 490, Alonzo wrote:Shit
Sad to inform you, but no it really isn't..In post 500, Xtoxm wrote:Alonzo wanting to end the day early is a little suspect.
Some players just don't mind being hasty with hammers..D1 hammers especially.
Wait, I thought you were pretty good in this game? At least if you put in the effort.In post 510, Elsa Jay wrote:Listen, I know I'm not having a grand track record in mafia. I'll probably be lynched later, so answer me this:
What do you even get if you lynch me now? What information do you get if I die?
JayDragonQueen or something.
And what on earth is this silly "I'll be lynched later" nonsense?
Raising all kinds of red flags here.
Noted.In post 524, Almost Chara wrote:
No, I think it safer to just Vig you.In post 519, Alonzo wrote:Almost Chara is voting Alonzo now, thats all that changed
Heh.In post 568, Elsa Jay wrote:Atleast it's not like saying "two Not_Mafias" or "two Elsas"
2 Boonskiies.
And just this game I said your posting was almost N_M-levels of Milkytank."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Lots of nonsense thusfar already, but this still takes the cake.In post 688, Alonzo wrote:Everyone should be voting for Gamma...
Alonzo manages to not be a townread for me.
Yet again.
This was going to be my suggestion for Day 2.In post 696, mcqueen wrote:Once 2 people vote to end the day (remember those votes go ITT), most people will start placing more serious votes.
We should have 2/4 of the "Day-Enders" vote earlier in a controlled manner.
Preferably leave two of the scummiest slots unvoted until later in the day.
This could theoretically apply pressure to 1/2 scum in the position to end the day, and also takes away all excuses of "troll-votes" or "oops my vote was accidentally still there".
I think this should be the gameplan for the future.
WHAT HAPPENS IF THE DAY ENDS WITH TWO EQUAL WAGONS? NO LYNCH AT ALL?
OK, love the fact that our thoughts went on a similar path after that last post from you.In post 707, mcqueen wrote:@Mod: What happens if the day ends and 2 people are tied for the most votes?
I hope to see you around D2.
I really think these slips are getting out of hand..In post 720, Alonzo wrote:
AC for something in the early game that seemed devious. I'm at best null on them.In post 703, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Why did you scumread those 2?
Gamma for what I consider a scumslip.
I keep forgetting dave is in the game.In post 731, davesaz wrote:I didn't notice either a question from Nero or an answer. Whatever it was must have been of dubious importance.
Must not let him surf under the radar for too long.
I get that him not being hyperactive is the norm no matter the alignment, but I think he usually manages to be more informative and analytical within the few posts he makes.
I'd argue that I'm the Expert in this field..In post 738, Alonzo wrote:Nobody knows better than Alonzo its not what you know its what you can prove
I'm thinking that the fish is scum for a similar reason.In post 767, Elsa Jay wrote:Well I currently dont like Alonzo, but that's unrelated to a scumread. Off the top of my head, I guess if I had to name the person i think has a decent chance to flip, it may actually be RCE. Seems to have went away now after stopping his engagement with TLK. Also defending BEF for no tangable reason, maybe to get towncred?
Or maybe it's just because I've been bingereading multiple pages at a time, but I feel like they disappeared completely after there was some heat on them.
TAKING A BREAK HERE"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Ran into some IRL problems outside of work, but I'm back to reading now.
I also have the day off tomorrow, meaning that I'll be fully caught up within the next ~12 or so hours."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Nero, Xtoxmaxmux AND mcqueen.In post 779, DrewVa wrote:Yep, Nero is definitely obvtown this game. I also think you and Xtoxm are town as well.
I'm thinking at least one too many.
Is this profii playing at something, or..?In post 795, profii wrote:Alonzo - have your peers said much about ending the day or not? Are they waiting for anything in particular to happen?
While this is Elsas "gimmick", I still dislike townbinning anyone who refuses to provide nothing but..well..gimmick-things.In post 810, Elsa Jay wrote:I'm a Queen. Coronation amd everything. Nobody remembers that fact for some reason.
Elsas ISO so far hasn't been much else.
Disagree with MaxNed and Ultimate Liars.In post 814, Alonzo wrote:Gamma, Elsa, Drewva, Max n Ned and Ultimate Lurkers are fine Lynches for today.
Change my mind.
I think that latter slot should never be a D1 lynch..yet Kokichi should always be lynched by D4..
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Especially that last part hits home with me so far.In post 816, RCEnigma wrote:Overall though I don't have good scumreads and it's not even that there are a ton of people being town.
Not many actual "scumlocks" but even less solid townreads - only the few I've been mentioning.
Good thoughts from RCE. This might be the slot I'm most conflicted about.In post 833, RCEnigma wrote:Ahh yes I do. Profii is a more vocal/involved player as town in my opinion. He's been present sure but his early game consisted of recommending ways to bring a votecount in that just seemed of to me for a few reasons:
1.) This setup disadvantages town due to the lack of votecount but I would argue it disadvantages Scum even more which leads to point #
2.) A votecount would be nice to have but not necessary. Town can likely coordinate without it. With it present it makes it easier for scum to spread their votes and town blend or throw of votecounts. Which is unfortunate because I think Profii is strong at VCA but not a part of my scum read. Overall I think scum can't afford to look too coordinated or they risk sticking out and that kind of weakens their sway on lynches.
Might even be a building case of paranoia.
Would be my first target for an investigation.
While my predecessor didn't word his reasonings for "why", his reads appear to have been similar to mine and at least I have tried to make a point of wording my reasoning throughout the way.In post 843, BrightEyedFish wrote:
What makes us "seem" like scum?In post 838, Theta Alpine wrote: i will agree that fish and rce seem like scum
So I hope you'll read this long and dull catchup of mine and maybe then engage me in a discussion."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I subbed into this Mastina game called "Mod is Mafia"...In post 870, Something_Smart wrote:I am really unhappy with this voting mechanic. I feel like it's impossible to see anything substantial that's going on.
The mod was allowed to edit posts and even fully delete them to benefit Mafia.
It was one of my worst performances catching up, simply because it was impossible to catch up!
Was wondering where your posts have been.In post 873, Almost Chara wrote:Has Chara been doing anything productive of late? If nor, I suggest we lynch their slot.
After all, I think you should be one of the most talented hydras in this game..
This actually finally clicked with me.In post 898, Elsa Jay wrote:Well he already spoke his peace and said he's done with this day. Why would I out my vote anyway? Seems horrible atm to do that.
Outing the votes is worse if we don't have the "end of day"-vote under control.
Simply because there are two different votes to consider, either and both which might have a scum or two affecting a potential mislynch.
I hope D2 sees town at least trying to coordinate one or both of them.
I think this might be Xtoxmuxmax noticing the same thing I just noted.
Another VERY GOOD thought. Or at least original.In post 908, Elsa Jay wrote:If everyone ends up with 1/2 votes, then whoever got those votes first is the one who dies, as the moderator explains. Is it wrong to see who jumped tje gun and voted immediately in that case?
Just maybe not as useful for solving as you might think.
I've been stuck on this one single post for longer than I propably should.In post 924, The Last Knight wrote:Okay. But why don't you just post it? I'm just doing it to keep track for the rest of us townies. This is helpful for anyone who has decided to be open with their vote. Anyone at all, really. Don't get mad at me if you have also decided not add to the list.
Frankly, I found only that Ramcius wanted you dead but never felt that he wanted to vote for you.
I do not know what about it pings me.
I'm not even sure why or how.
I'm just stuck trying to interpret the mindset behind it. I think.
For now, I'll read this as gospel and sort you D2 if you've started to post more yourself.In post 930, Almost Chara wrote:Drew bled town, Gamma is towny. Ultimate Liars should be more readable shortly.
the only read here i could really agree with is Elsa, and even then he's Elsa, mr. Always Scummy.
Wasn't so sure about town!Gamma myself, but will take your word for it for now.
scum!Ramcius would fit nicely with town!Elsa here. Trying to slip into a pocket maybe?In post 963, Ramcius wrote:Karmeleon, are you trying get 2 MLs for your team? Get me first, then Elsa after my townflip?
I stopped, because I felt Elsa might be really bad town, I don't think scum would admit to not try to progress game and on top hindering our progress with 2 "for fun" scumreads on BEF and Alonso.
You ignoring whole that part, but pointing out pointless afterfight banter as a something susp is laughable
I still want Elsa dead, just to be sure, but scum lynch > PL.
VOTE: Karmeleon
All I know is that while I transparently scumread Karmeleon for their earlier posts, Ramcius takes a slice of that cake with the fakest starting lines for a post in this game.
Maybe scumtheater? Could easily explain the forced feeling I got.
A sub-par attempt to come across as town.In post 1001, davesaz wrote:Despite that, DrewVa is a townlean. Ultimate Liars is a scumlean. Karmeleon townlean. Nero townlean.
Keeping track of things is still a pain without in-thread voting, you don't get the flow info. I'm worried that town will have too little info to go on.
Not saying this was written by scum, per se, but dave is still wasting their one post for posing. Rather than trying to solve or out reads.
..but this is better.In post 1007, davesaz wrote:Don't really understand what Karmeleon is seeing in Ramcius play or vice versa. The back and forth is a bunch of I'm acting town, no you're not I'm acting town. An explanation would help.
I think what dave is saying here, is that he agrees with my previous assessment.
The passing interaction between Ramcius and Karmeleon feels forcerd.
And I'd go as far as to argue it's not TvT.
Townpoints for dave though.
Why write something like this?In post 1024, The Last Knight wrote:C'mon guys, you don't want to vote to lynch me... Not if you're town anyway. Scum can vote for me all they want. Careful of that hammer!
Doesn't seem to have anything to decipher.
HERE HERE!In post 1033, Ramcius wrote:Karm, Profil, Drew, Gamma want my head suddenly, anyone else interested too?
Also something that crossed my mind:with a scum!Ramcius flip down the road, there's at least one scum in Karm/Profii/Drew/Gamma.
Would explain why scum!Ramcius would make a deal about it."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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And this6"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Fck my mouse with sidenumbers to hell"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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OK, I'm officially getting too tired to make a good catchup, since I've reseted two walls already.
All you guys need to know, is that I'm currently at this post:
..and will finish the rest of my catchup after I've slept. It's 1:40 (AM?) in here, but I have the day off tomorrow so I should be finished soon enough.In post 2351, Xtoxm wrote:we didnt have a formed wagon last night- Emperor flippyNips
• Alonzo
• Mcqueen
Xtoxm
If there is a bullet point,
that means they have voted
to end day.
who do you think we had a formed wagon on
3 or 4 claimed votes on someone in a 23p game is near meaningless
With more walls to come once I stop deleting them on accident."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Interesting claim.In post 2299, profii wrote:With plurality in effect it seems there may be a risk of my gettingnlynched so I’ll claim
I can modify 1 person each night with these 3 thingys and give them +1 shot
(Ascetic, Loyal, Loud)
So like 3 nights work if that makes sense
Looking forward to seeing how N1 plays out.
Really?In post 2303, Xtoxm wrote:there's decent utility there profii
could be strong in late game if you make it
not worth throwing them in the wind on n1 imo
I would've used "Loyal" to my top scumread.
^^thisIn post 2312, Elsa Jay wrote:If you use "loyal" on a goon, does that mean they can only hit other mafia?
Nevermind, I don't think this works.In post 2319, profii wrote:It says I give them a +1 charge
So I guess the modification is perm
But I guess there are a lot of x-shot whatever’s
I read this as: "your target has one shot with this modifier" and "your target can decide if and when to use that charge"..
Not TvT. One of CheekyDancer/profii is scum.In post 2321, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Profii who do you think had the worst reasons to scumread you? Do you remember all the people scumreading you?
~ C
I'm in a similar position.In post 2341, mcqueen wrote:I actually just did a readslist in my confessional to gather my thoughts. It's surprising how many townreads/nullreads I have, yet how little hard scumreads I have.
However, I do not understand why you would post your thoughts and reads into your confessional instead of giving town more to analyze and information to work with.
Well at least I'm glad you didn't.In post 2356, Almost Chara wrote:Why are we not lynching Theta Alpine again?
..or did you?
Am I..dead?
Gotta come back to this post after the first flip.In post 2389, Xtoxm wrote:15mins.
im on nips.
could move to theta.
its looking like a low threshold plurality lynch
5ish votes i'd expect, unless scum group on someone
There could be a narrative on the works here depending on who flips and what.
Same with this one.In post 2392, Elsa Jay wrote:Btw I also moved my vote to Theta. Also shitposting in my confessional.
...aaaand this.In post 2397, Almost Chara wrote:Not sure about Ramcius, myself. He's a Town lean for me. I'd say vote Theta and shoot Flippy
Three posts like this on one page, apparently close to the first deadline.
Someone is likely telling a story.
Especially considering that people haven't been very open about their votes or reads until this point.
Didn't see this one coming.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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..but this makes a lot of sense.
They didn't get to do much D1, but I'd argue this slot would've likely been the strongest town-presence and leader in the coming days if left alive.
Didn't know this.In post 2404, Boonskiies wrote:Did you know...that the Mafia Team has an additional factional ability that allows them the opportunity to pick one of themselves as a Day Rep? They don't have to use this ability, but starting Night 1, it definitely became available!
I wonder if scum knew it from the start of the game, or if they were told last night.
But I'd bet a lot of MafiaScum-dollars saying that they chose one of themselves to be a Day Rep today.
Simply because they couldn't have foreseen Boon sharing this info with us at the start of the day, meaning that they thought there would be no downside to it.
So, now that I've seen the two flips thusfar, I'd like to make some bold accusations.
All town in: Alonzo [12/26, 18:53], DrewVa [12/27, 17:01], Xtoxm [12/28, 16:53], Cheeky Dancer [12/28, 17:48]
Mainly because the votes have all been added so close to the deadline.
MAX ONE SCUM IN HERE IMO, AND THEY WILL BE HARD TO CATCH IF SO.
Assuming there's a daytalk for scum, I'd say TWO scum in either of the two other wagons.
Karmeleon[12/19, 08:19], Emperors New Groove [12/24, 08:34],Ramcius[12/24, 11:45]
This would also fit my previous reads perfectly.
Based on my reads btw, this second line is quite useful as well.
Almost Chara[12/27, 14:50],Elsa Jay[12/28, 17:41], The Last Knight [12/28, 17:35]
Almost Chara actually flipped town, and I'm thinking Elsa...should?...be townread for now.
The one I didn't green out is TLK, but consider scum!TLK.
THAT WOULD MEAN THAT BOTH RAMCIUS AND KARMELEON WERE ON THEIR TEAMMATE CLOSE TO THE END OF D1.
That makes no sense. (since in this game scum have no idea who is ACTUALLY the leading wagon until the list drops. I doubt they'd go for a hard buss on scum!TLK WHEN ANOTHER BUDDY WAS LIKELY THE OTHER LEADING WAGON.)
So I'm actually willing to say town!TLK -> the designated mislynch for scum D1.
So what follows, is that we are looking forRamcius + Karmeleon +one in...the remaining wagons with all 2 votes in them.
We have to look for a name that kept coming up the most during D1 as a potential lynch in the pool ofUltimate Liars, Xtoxm, DrewVa.
One of the six who was on these three is the remaining scum."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I now see there's still time for the deadline.
And two of my main suspects are DayReps.
I'm going to vote for Ramcius/Karmeleon in my confessional right now, and will start to read their full ISOs now instead of chronologically catching up. For now.
I need to know if there have been any claims or results that matter, but outside of those chances, I'm only voting for Karmeleon or Ramcius today."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Also, since I'm taking a break from my walling...
I want to hardclaim Duck once more.
I do my best work D3 anyway, but it's good for everyone to know that there's a Duck amongst them."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I'm better at scum than town I'm afraid.
I have no "range" - it all depends on how much time and energy I have to spend to a game."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Either a poor attempt at a joke, or just plain wrong.In post 3880, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Oh no Una is scum
You're terrible with your logic slips as scum Una lmao."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Yea, we moved on from that already.In post 3891, Ramcius wrote:I read this and I just can't contain my laugh - I just don't see why would I ever agree as a scum to let BEF to bus me and on top so blatantly call him town from early D1
Or at least I did.
Blowfish can be town for now since you flip scum."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I was actually reaction testing profii, not you.In post 3879, Cheeky Dancer wrote:
Explain please?? O_oIn post 3867, UnaBombaH wrote:Not TvT. One of CheekyDancer/profii is scum.
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Yet you provided the result I expected from them..how does that work out?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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No actual idea, and I suck at setup spec'ing, but..I'm willing to humor 3 or 4 alive. I think?In post 3905, Gamma Emerald wrote:How many scum are you thinking are in the game rn?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Is it possible to have scum!Cheeky with town!Performer?
I legit wanted a reaction from profii to that "one of these is scum", but you just got there first.
And I THINK Cheeky has no reason to go for a scumread on me right away, but then again..apparently they scumread Thetas lurkiness already or something. Dunno, don't care right now.
We should really lynch Ramcius or Karmeleon today."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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First of all, it stings me to my very core when you guys say I have a "scum tell" and make "terrible slips as scum"..In post 3902, profii wrote:
This is a good scum tell on Una generally - however like they’re obvious when you’re watching from a dead thread - hes good at getting away with it when you don’t know the game solution - if he has made an obvious derp id be amazed - una has a high BoP from me though, he’s sneakyIn post 3880, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Oh no Una is scum
You're terrible with your logic slips as scum Una lmao.
Especially since I think that so far neither of you has never caught me as scum..right?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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As a matter of fact - screw this.
This assessment by Cheeky/profii is not fair at all.
I want examples where I have made a "similar mistake" as to what you think I have made here (?).
Because I just checked my magnificent history as scum, and I don't think any of my losses (or even lynches) fit the description."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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And I like to say that I don't have much of an ego."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I'll say in my defense that I'm tired and had a few beers as well.
So I'll go to bed now, and after work tomorrow, I'll be my humble self.
Promise."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Hmm...one of profii/CheekyDancer is scum."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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But in all seriousness, why Karmeleon over Ramcius?
I would've likely gone the other way around."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Is MC really the main wagon?In post 3948, Ramcius wrote:You say that and Mc is main wagon, hm, interesting, is it not?
Really?
We need to pile on one slot to overweight that then - I'll move my vote to Karmeleon right away then.
CheekyDancer should do the same ASAP unless they are already on him.
Meaning that based on the latest posts we should be able to get at least 5 votes on Karmeleon(?) and maybe convince others to join as well.
Elsa is a hard slot to read, mainly because I find it very hard to do the effort and actually READ them."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Alonzo has managed to "obv.town" mainly through wagon-analyzing, but should absolutely offer more in terms of gamesolving.
They have a good head, it's just that they seem to enjoy sassing and provocating more.."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Karmeleon is Creature.
I do not see town!Creature outing himself when about to be lynched, but maybe that's just me.
I can, however, see scum!Creature trying this as a last ditch effort."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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In post 4036, Nev and Max wrote:
Wait. Karm is actually creature? Is that what you're saying here?In post 4034, UnaBombaH wrote:Karmeleon is Creature.
I do not see town!Creature outing himself when about to be lynched, but maybe that's just me.
I can, however, see scum!Creature trying this as a last ditch effort.OK, timeout here.
I thought that was confirmed?
Obviously it could've just been that Karmeleon asked for a replacement in silence and Creature was ready to replace in very quickly..?
If it was just a "normal" replace out-replace in by two totally different players, then it's obviously 100% NAI."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I'm not comfortable voting anyone outside of Creature/Ramcius today.
They've both come across scummy to me.
They are both day-reps, and I feel certain there's at least one scum in that group as well.
And to top it off, I have no trouble seeing them BOTH as scum either, so I think it's sade to lynch either/both.
You guys do you, but if we don't at least lynch in todays day-reps, I'll be disappointed."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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..and then it would be dave or drewVa..
Nah, I take that last part back then.
I'll be disappointed if we lynch anyone other than Creature/Ramcius."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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This is you trying to pull off a narrative.In post 4245, Xtoxm wrote:we get to sub 24h and a speedwagon pops up away from mcqueen
after i cant get more than 4 or 5 votes on him all day
thats definitely a thing that happens to town
i knew this would happen
creature might be town just based on how many people are jumping on him
hes the leading wagon for sure
It's not because we are sub 24h that a wagon has emerged.
It's because multiple players are feeling there are better lynch options for today, and I hope we manage to group enough people together to actually make it happen.
Instead of Creature, vote for Karm if you're worried Creature is town.
Or do you argue that BOTH of the wagons I promote are mislynches vs your McQueen push?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Yea, we could.In post 4271, Creature wrote:You know, we can easily get four town day reps.
I personally wouldn't want to be in a list of four names as scum.
But I just don't think we do.
If I was scum, I would have made it a priority to pick a Day-rep. on my team, simply because it's one more level of control I could potentially use/manipulate.
The question isn't "why take it?" the real question is "Why wouldn't I take it everytime?"
Now, we all knowNOWthat there was a potential "penalty" of sorts hanging around.
(Meaning that we all got the info at the start of today that scum can pick a Day-rep. amongst themselves if they feel like doing so.)
But I'm willing to bet my ass that they didn't know that before us either, and therefore should've picked one 10/10 times.
There's at least one scum in todays day-reps.
Guarantee it."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Not gonna move my vote from Ram at this point.
And I don't feel like arguing this any further, but giving the scum the option to be a day-rep., telling them we will all be told the same thing in the morning (??), and only then telling us almost seems like giving scum the full advantage with the rule.
Why not inform all players before the night?
During the night?
In the morning?
Scum were told before the rest of us. So I'll keep my assessment unless Boon denies it."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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..and if this isn't scum trying to devalue my push in their own defense..In post 4285, Ramcius wrote:Btw, day reps don't have that many power as you may think - you can change your vote after day end. We can cast our votes until end of twilight according to rules (not sure if that counts for day end without reps voting for it, this is in day reps part of rules)
But seriously though, I'm not overestimating the power of a Day rep.
I just think scum should always be looking for a chance to manipulate and push an agenda, and there are multiple ways to do that with just a vote..so why not have another vote to use?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Don't do this profii.In post 4286, profii wrote:Gonna go back to mcqueen - I’d still prefer TLK but it’s not like anyone’s jumping in following the convo earlier and saying “nah profii you are on it TLK is the way to go”
Trust my Duck-sense."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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What on earth is this post supposed to be?In post 4484, Xtoxm wrote:did someone let una win a prize
Anyone who ends up reading Boonus Room A at any future point should be able to clearly see that I had no selfish agenda last night.
Also wanna play ball with everyone here - apparently some think it's better to not out who won/didn't win, and why.
Why is that?
If Boonus Room B had scum winning the game, their team already knows they won, and WHAT they won.
So why not give the town the same information?
Gives the scum less room later...or am I missing something?
WHY ARE WE THEORIZING ABOUT WHY/WHO GET TO BE DAY-REPS?
Outside of the obvious "scum can choose one day-rep" there's no incentive to do that.
And after D2, I don't think it's worth it to guess how someone became a rep. or not.
It only meant something last gameday, because I'm still arguing that scum couldn't have known that their ability to choose one of themselves was going to be outed.
At least not as soon as it did get outed.
At least one scum in D2 day-reps. I'm not gonna change my view on that even if Ram flipped town.
I'm at this post for now.In post 4548, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Also, I have some interesting news I feel like sharing, which could possibly help us. It's regarding the BOONus game.
Have to work a little, and will catch up tonight."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Just to comment on this briefly - I felt comfortable with you/me not winning, only because then pink winning would've required Elsa to play "dirty".In post 4954, mcqueen wrote:I should’ve won, but Una ruined it.
So I was more or less giving Elsa the chance to bone me/us (assuming they were pink) if they felt like being selfish.
Therefore "Elsa solo-winning only by showing their "true colors" < "no one winning" > "you solo-winning" (as I couldn't be sure about your alignment either)
That is also why I made sure to draw the line so that I'd handle our actions as a direct extension of the actual game.
I dislike the way Dva took their "victory" N1. I don't think it outright pins them as scum obviously, but I still think their approach to the game wasn't townlike."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Am town.In post 4603, profii wrote:Which reminds me to reconsider Una as he was the AC read we all noticed when AC was pushing theta then died - might be useful as we kinda went “meh theta inactive” but now we have a bit of content
Although I have no trouble saying that out of this playerlist, Almost Chara would've easily been my first candidate for a nightkill. #muchrespect"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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So the scumteam is TLK+?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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BTW, anyone hear me "Quack" last night?
I specified my night-action to do it so that my neighbours couldn't hear it, but I might have gotten too carried away with it..
I hope I didn't disturb anyones sleep!
Also: voted for TLK in my confessional."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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It means the same thing I've been saying since the beginning - I am a Ducky.
Towns very own Ducky.
Not actually sure if there are multiple Duckys around, or if I'm the only one, but I'm a Ducky."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Asking something like this might not be good for your health..In post 5018, mcqueen wrote:are you claiming what i think you’re claiming elsa
And me answering that question wouldn't likely help either of us as I have no way of knowing what you think you now know, and therefore confirming/denying anything makes no sense.
Just remember that I am a Ducky.
Not a joke.
I will flip "Town Ducky" when dead - guaranteed."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Creatureeeeee.......................why are you scum?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Now hold on for a sec.In post 5052, RCEnigma wrote:Mastina is the other head, why are you still metareading malakitty?
Mastina is in this game?
Malakittens isn't?
Malakittens = formerfish?
Who is Nev? (assuming mastina is Max)
How does any of this help me?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I feel so bad for replacing into this game thinking I could be of any help to town..
Boon managed to make me feel "special" when asked me to replace in, and here I am - agoldfishDucky amongst sharks and whales.."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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..as in Formerfish?In post 5055, Thanos wrote:Nev is FF"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I get it now. It is actually a funny name for a Hydra.
I think alts and hydras should all have funny names."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I've played with Malakitty once before. (them as Malakittens)
It was a noobie, they were scum.
They were very busy at the time (if I remember correctly they work in a hospital or something), and tried to fakeclaim Doc in the old noobie-setup to escape lynch.
We got 'em, but lost to an in-replacing RC who destroyed my ass as a revenge for some other game where I won them..good times.
Formerfish I THINK I've bumped into somewhere, but can't say where.
Can't because I don't remember for sure..and it might have been on my alt whom I love deeply.
So basically next to no experience with that hydra."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Can't make a coherent summary myself either!In post 5059, Thanos wrote:UnaBombah, if you can, a small summary of D2 so far? I'm still busy
The main gist of things seems to be this whole "fruit-no fruit"-claimage.
TLK claims to have received a sticky fruit, but neither profii or PP claims to have sent them one.
At least that is what I managed to glean from all that.
With the above in mind, it now seems as if TLK claimed to have received a fruit as a hasty fakeclaim because PP was hinting to them that they should've received SOMETHING last night.
So I voted for TLK with many others (I think?), and now there doesn't seem to be a clear line of discussion that involves everyone.
That is why I have fallen for the depths of semi-shitposting."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Don't try to take these out of context or make me claim anything - I will claim and eventually flip nothing else, but Town Ducky.In post 5080, DrewVa wrote:
So you’re in a hood?In post 5015, UnaBombaH wrote:BTW, anyone hear me "Quack" last night?
I specified my night-action to do it so that myneighbourscouldn't hear it, but I might have gotten too carried away with it..
I hope I didn't disturb anyones sleep!
Also: voted for TLK in my confessional.
You’re loud?
That's that.
However....it WOULD be interesting if someone DID claim to have heard something...or to for someone specifically to claim they heard NOTHING.
Right Creature?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Yes. 100% no joke.In post 5086, DrewVa wrote:You mean this is an actual role?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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This is performer speaking about me..In post 5089, Cheeky Dancer wrote:I don't.
Then again, I've been teamed as scum with una before, AND saw his scum game with okapoka on his team....AND he's the theta slot.
Does this mean that you don't trust me because you think I could deceive you as scum?
But then again, I have already fallen under suspicion for multiple people, which I would absolutely not want happening if I were scum here.
My MO is actually quite easily read nowadays since I've given my best to all of my most recent scumgames.
I only lost one of them, but all of them show similar characteristics.
I don't think I'll be winning any scumgames any time soon.
And just a btw, I'm not scum here, I'd take this stupidly seriously if I was."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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UnaBombaH Jack of All Trades
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- Joined: June 27, 2017
- Location: Finland
I've actually played with Creature a lot.In post 5091, DrewVa wrote:In post 5040, Creature wrote:I think Nero Cain is pretty much town atleast
Are you totally unfamiliar with Creature meta?In post 5042, UnaBombaH wrote:Creatureeeeee.......................why are you scum?
I mean, I've finished a little under 40 games on site, and played with Creature something like..ten times? Ballpark."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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UnaBombaH Jack of All Trades
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- Location: Finland
I was actually very surprised to get this role when replacing in!In post 5174, DrewVa wrote:I don't know what your association with the duck is, but I thought he was most known for faking town power roles as scum?
If I'm not mistaken, I was IC in BuDuckys first newbie game.
I know he has become rather well-known and popular since those days, but I still think fondly of those times..
He's been one of my favorites ever since."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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UnaBombaH Jack of All Trades
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- Posts: 6538
- Joined: June 27, 2017
- Location: Finland
Sure I do, JayDragonking. We were scum together and you carried us to a victory after I got guiltied N1?In post 5202, Elsa Jay wrote:You were also the IC in my first ever game, Una, if you remember.
You got murdered day 2 though. Back then Jaber had a Shadow avatar.
I think I should get back to IC'ing.
I'm think I'm good at being a "good guy" - alignments aside.
Time to stop pretending I can actually play!"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una