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Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Tue May 10, 2011 6:43 am

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VOTE: Ghostlin

For quoting Bon Jovi. (I love them.)
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Post Post #19 (isolation #1) » Tue May 10, 2011 3:51 pm

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Aw, C-Worl, I'm flattered. :P
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Post Post #45 (isolation #2) » Wed May 11, 2011 10:12 am

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1. I have completed several games on this site (see my wiki) and have been nominated for Most Outstanding New Player. I also play extensively on another site and won Female MVP and Best Mafia Debator there.

2. I am a musician and future English educator and writer.

I have been busy since day start and I'm currently in car en route, so I'm here-ish, but my effort will probably be minimal for a couple of days (just as a heads up).
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Post Post #70 (isolation #3) » Wed May 11, 2011 6:48 pm

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Zmuffin coming out worse in this exchange, but still not convinced.
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Post Post #72 (isolation #4) » Wed May 11, 2011 8:51 pm

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Quilford, why unvote but not vote your top scumspect?

Unvote; Vote Quilford
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Post Post #75 (isolation #5) » Wed May 11, 2011 9:35 pm

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See, Quilford, I'm just not buying it. You don't FoS someone and then say you thought you voted them. It just doesn't work that way.
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Post Post #81 (isolation #6) » Thu May 12, 2011 4:26 am

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Zmuff, are you dense? You have been arguing extensively with someone (guess who) and I think you look worse in the exchange.

Also your flip flopping on andrew became way obvious and then you went "haha reaction fishing," just as scum would to pass off a poor attempt at an attack on an easy lynch target.

After that, I will be happy to vote you, but your wagon is growing quickly so I'll stick with my Quilford suspicion for now.
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Post Post #83 (isolation #7) » Thu May 12, 2011 6:11 am

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Let me be very clear:

You have had a long exchange of posts with Ghostlin, who was questioning you about your motivations. The answers revealed a lot of internal conflictions and had an overall tone that I think is more likely to be scum than town.

However, a couple of people have gotten on the wagon in ways I didn't like- namely, Quilford. Your talk of me being "passive" in this matter is pure bullshit, as I have actually gone after Quilford quite aggressively given his content level and the gamestate.

I am less inclined to vote you after seeing someone scummy slide onto your wagon like that. Even if Quilford is scum, it doesn't mean you cannot be scum, but for the moment, I'm more content with a Quilford vote.

I haven't liked anything Quilford has done, and his reponse to C-Worl's obvjoke showed that he has a heightened sense of perceived threat, indicative of a scum mindset. My vote on him is absolutely not fluff.

Others on your wagon for shaky reasons:

Edmund: did give reasoning, not as bad as Quilford
Andrew: RVS vote that hasn't been removed, though his strange post last night seemed to indicate he has developed a true suspicion of you

I want to hear more from these two (and several others off the wagon), but the others on the wagon I think are there for good, solid reasons.
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Post Post #84 (isolation #8) » Thu May 12, 2011 6:14 am

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Speaking of Quilford, I'm still waiting on a better explanation of your "FoS" and how you supposedly forgot to place a vote in the same post you FoSed and unvoted C-Worl?
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Post Post #86 (isolation #9) » Thu May 12, 2011 6:46 am

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Such as whether not Andrew was scummy to you or whether he was a PL. It seemed to me like you couldn't quite make up your mind.

The flippancy of your answers is one thing that bothered me about your tone. You couldn't come up with a satisfactory answer as to why C-Worl and andrew were scumbuddies on page one after two posts from C-Worl and one from andrew, so instead you gave a snarky answer, something like "next time I will ask permission before giving scumreads.". This is a deflection; it is not an answer to the underlying question about how you arrived at that conclusion so quickly.

As for Quilford, we may just have to agree to disagree on this point as we obviously see it differently. I could have phrased that post better, but it was meant as pressure, telling Quilford I didn't buy his bs and he needs to try harder.

I did not express my dislike of his attack on C-Worl for two reasons. The main reason is that I wasn't around at the time when that exchange happened. The other reason is that I wanted to attack him myself and see how he reacted. I waited until he did something else scummy and voted him. His reaction has not been satisfactory thus far.

Do you know what disliking the growth of your wagon even means? It means I don't think a wagon without scum on it would grow so fast. I find you scummy but instead wanted to see who was on your wagon and why. Scummy attacks on you make me less confident of my scumread on you, so for now, I'll focus on the scummy attacks. I also don't want a quicklynch.

I've been thinking and the andrew/zmuffin conflict might have been staged pre-game as a distancing tactic. Not saying it was. It just occured to me as a possibility.
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Post Post #90 (isolation #10) » Thu May 12, 2011 8:19 am

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Funny you should mention that... That is a possibility I've put forward. I also think it could be just you as scvum who couldn't fecide which angle to attack andrew from.

Show me what made you think cworl and andrew are scum and scum together at that point in the game. That's the "simple answer" I'm looking for.

Yes; what I wanted to comment on was you at the moment and I was short on time. And yes, sometimes the best scumhunting strategy is "wait and see." One scummy comment isn't enough to convince me, but two scummy incidents is enoigh for me to take it seriously. I wanted to see how several scummy and/or lurky characters, including and especially Quilford, reacted when your wagon started gaining more support. Would they join in? With what reasoning? However, I wasn't sure of you myself and didn't want to give the wagon more vote momentum at that particular time.

When you talk about something or express suspicion of someone, it can affect their behavior. Sometimes the best strategy is to lay traps and wait. Sometimes, it's not.
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Post Post #92 (isolation #11) » Thu May 12, 2011 8:28 am

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Tragedy, why is it strange to NOT OMGUS? Am I reading you wrong?
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Post Post #95 (isolation #12) » Thu May 12, 2011 9:04 am

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I obviously misunderstood you.

"Quil, why would ZMuffin would be your top FoS, despite he didn't call you scum?"

In English, this sentence means, "Quilford, why would you suspect zmuffin even though he had a town read on you?"

I guess that's not what you meant.


It does bring me to something I overlooked: if there is scum on your wagon, zmuffin, who are they? Saying "this isn't an all-town wagon" is unspecific, unhelpful, and not scumhunting. It's attempting to throw aspersions onto your wagon without substance.

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Post Post #97 (isolation #13) » Thu May 12, 2011 9:33 am

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Are you asking me that, Tragedy? If you're really asking that, you need to read my posts.
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Post Post #101 (isolation #14) » Thu May 12, 2011 9:57 am

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Apparently she didn't mean that. Or something.
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Post Post #104 (isolation #15) » Thu May 12, 2011 10:39 am

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Aw, come on, Grey. I was hoping we could form an awesome alliance if you were town but our reads are exact opposites so now I can never be sure enough for an alliance. ;(

:P. Seriously, though, why Ghostlin?
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Post Post #106 (isolation #16) » Thu May 12, 2011 11:41 am

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But I have a townread on Ghostlin. Enlighten me. Humor me.
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Post Post #108 (isolation #17) » Thu May 12, 2011 1:15 pm

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Hmm, not according to zmuffin.

Tragedy is defending him.
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Post Post #110 (isolation #18) » Thu May 12, 2011 2:07 pm

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Did I just see the phrse "overzealous town?" Lol
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Post Post #115 (isolation #19) » Thu May 12, 2011 3:34 pm

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^C-Worl, did you just say the thread needs a penis? Teehee.

Now on to my reply to zmuffin:

I've ALREADY SAID. I am so tired of repeating myself to you. I think you guys could have set it up pre-game as a distancing tactic. Or, you could be acting independently and WIFOMing town on purpose. Or, you could be misguided town, though I'm doubting it more and more.

Also, either learn to read or stop misrepresenting me. This discussion grows tedious. I said SOMETIMES it is a good idea to wait things out and see where they go. And I never attacked anyone for anything that isn't scummy. Sometimes, this is not a good idea. It is SITUATIONAL.

I don't know how extensive your game experience is, since you played on another site, but I'm going to extend a guess that it's either not extensive or that site is VASTLY different in gameplay.

Metas are different. I, for example, lay traps much less on this site due to the (lack of) acceptability in meta.

Stop arguing with me about theory. It's not even remotely productive. I don't care if you disagree with how I play the game. It doesn't make either of us scummy, but you trying to add it to your non-existent case IS scummy.

You still have not explained what made Andrew and C-Worl stand out as scumbuddies on page 1. At this point, the only reasonable explanation of this is because you CAN'T because explaining it would show your scum motivation.
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Post Post #117 (isolation #20) » Thu May 12, 2011 3:46 pm

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>.>

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Post Post #118 (isolation #21) » Thu May 12, 2011 3:47 pm

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I think it might be bad that "hammer" did not even occur to me.
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Post Post #122 (isolation #22) » Thu May 12, 2011 4:00 pm

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ONCE AGAIN, just because you disagree with me on a theory point does not make me scummy. I have caught many scum this way and I will catch many more scum this way, whether or not I have your newbie stamp of approval or not. Either way, even if I am delusional, it is irrelevant to my scumminess.

Answering RQS questions requires no thought. Commenting on the game does. When I had time, I did. I have been traveling for DAYS. This game started at a shitty time for me. There are others who contributed less than I have and continue to do so. Stop selectively applying supposed scumtells. You are OMGUSing sooo bad.

By the way, what you supposedly did with C-Worl and andrew is a trap. But they're passive and nonsense, right?

And once AGAIN, I find you scummy and a distraction to town at best.

However, I have not seen enough content from other players to end the day yet. I also want to pursue my suspicion of Quilford.
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Post Post #124 (isolation #23) » Thu May 12, 2011 4:06 pm

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Someone not underage could whip it out?
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Post Post #125 (isolation #24) » Thu May 12, 2011 4:07 pm

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Seriously though, I actually WANT to hammer.

I am just not sure it is the best move.
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Post Post #128 (isolation #25) » Thu May 12, 2011 4:11 pm

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zMuffinMan wrote:
By the way, what you supposedly did with C-Worl and andrew is a trap. But they're passive and nonsense, right?


I don't understand what you're asking here.


First of all, you haven't analyzed anyone's intentions that wasn't attacking you.

But seriously, how can you not get it? It was sarcasm.

You just sat there and called me scummy for laying traps and reaction fishing and in the SAME POST admitted to laying a trap and reaction fishing!
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Post Post #131 (isolation #26) » Thu May 12, 2011 4:18 pm

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I explained the entire "trap" to you. Was it perhaps the most effective one? No. But I was busy and rushing. It happens.

This is one of the least fruitful lines of discussion EVER.
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Post Post #138 (isolation #27) » Thu May 12, 2011 4:36 pm

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GreyICE wrote:So you like lynching town on page 5?


It's page 6. >.>

But I am truly not convinced on zmuffin. His more recent posts are reading as more emotionally genuine to me. I think he is just freaking out under pressure, maybe.


But zmuffin, stop saying I'm mudslinging. It's just silly. Can't you just scumhunt instead? You think your logic makes sense but it doesn't. Some of it does, but it's not as good as you think it is.

LURKERS POST, DAMNIT
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Post Post #147 (isolation #28) » Thu May 12, 2011 5:08 pm

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Grey: Only ISO #2 looks bad to me on Ghostlin. He's putting in effort, at the very least.

zmuffin:

I'm tired of explaining the same things to you over and over again.

I think you may be trying to scumhunt me, but it's not very productive. Scumhunt me if you want, but do it better. No more theory arguing and baseless accusations. I am so bored with this line of discussion.

MORE SEXINESS IN THIS THREAD PLZ

Less repetitive arguments. kthx
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Post Post #154 (isolation #29) » Thu May 12, 2011 5:40 pm

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zMuffinMan wrote:

@Amrun,

I think you may be trying to scumhunt me, but it's not very productive. Scumhunt me if you want, but do it better. No more theory arguing and baseless accusations. I am so bored with this line of discussion.


How is it not very productive to try to get a read on you? Even if you were town, it would still be productive for me to question your motives and form a proper read on you.

I'm not arguing theory. I'm not making baseless accusations.

Fact:
You posted nothing of substance and called it trapping, but you have yet to explain how this was actually trapping.
Fact:
You said you found early posts by Quilford and I suspicious, but neglected to elaborate on why until I badgered you about it. In fact, you neglected to bring it up at all until you were badgered.

The rest of my reasons for suspecting you're scum are, of course, based on my intuition, but they really aren't "baseless" accusations at all. Your actions simply don't give me a town feeling.


No, I think you should question me etc. I just think you aren't drawing logical conclusions from your questions.

Your first "fact" is not a fact at all. I have explained what I did and how I did it. To summarize, I saw a scummy post by Quilford, but it wasn't a lot by itself. I expressed support of your wagon but didn't vote to see what kind of reactions it would draw, particularly from Quilford. I wanted to gauge his reaction and felt that addressing his previously scummy post first would alter his reaction. It is not that hard to grasp. Don't sit there and pretend I haven't explained this when I have.

Your second fact is also not a fact. You were not "badgering" me. At that point, I viewed our exchanges as merely questioning, discussing, etc. as is normal. I explained then because it was clear that Quilford wasn't going to respond any time soon. I wanted to address his scumminess to HIM after I saw how he responded to your wagon,but he isn't around so instead I explained it to everyone by explaining it to you. How can I have neglected to bring it up? That doesn't even make sense.

You can go on with your gut read on me, but my point is that you have already made up your mind on that and are not achieving anything further with this silliness, so find some NEW points to talk about with me or other people. What I mean is we have been talking about the same things forever and I'm tired of it. I have repeated myself so many times that I'm losing my mind a little bit.
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Post Post #157 (isolation #30) » Thu May 12, 2011 6:07 pm

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Amrun wrote:1. I have completed several games on this site (see my wiki) and have been nominated for Most Outstanding New Player. I also play extensively on another site and won Female MVP and Best Mafia Debator there.

2. I am a musician and future English educator and writer.

I have been busy since day start and I'm currently in car en route, so I'm here-ish, but my effort will probably be minimal for a couple of days (just as a heads up).



Quoting this post to emphasize that when you attack me for not posting content, I told everyone why I could not.


Amrun wrote:Zmuffin coming out worse in this exchange, but still not convinced.


Whether you like it or not, THIS was my prompting "trap" post. I have said that SO many times. Was it the most well-laid trap? No. But I was rushed and distracted and this is what I had time for -- and it bore fruit. I have explained more than once about this and I am tired of it.
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Post Post #162 (isolation #31) » Thu May 12, 2011 6:46 pm

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LDKJFA;SKLFDJASD

I WILL NOT EXPLAIN MYSELF AGAIN

RE-READ THE 27 TIMES I ALREADY ANSWERED THOSE QUESTIONS
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Post Post #164 (isolation #32) » Thu May 12, 2011 6:50 pm

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His low reading comprehension doesn't mean he's necessarily scum, unfortunately. x.x
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Post Post #166 (isolation #33) » Thu May 12, 2011 6:57 pm

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People sliding onto the wagon in shifty, scummy ways -- which I HAVE said. It's hard to predict reactions. You see what happens and evaluate on a case by case basis.

And the other question should be self evident. You say to someone, "X action is scummy and I suspect you," tips them off that they are being scrutinized and they will alter their behavior. It's just basic psychology, which is what this game is all about.

And AGAIN about the post, answering RQS does not require thought, but posting real content does. I thought while I was notifying people of my semi-absence I might as well answer RQS.
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Post Post #170 (isolation #34) » Thu May 12, 2011 7:48 pm

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This is so ridiculous.

Andrew voted in rvs and then has lurked. If he posts one more time without content, that may be my limit, but there's no point in grilling someone with no content.

Edmund has some reasoning, but more importantly, he's early in the wagon - not sliding on at all. Theirs are less substantial votes on the wagon but not worth attacking.


Quilford's slide on is scummy precisely because he HAS no reasoning. When his scummy slide on was pointed out, he has said something. That I expect an elaboration on his entire thought process about this is implicit. He'll give it if he wants to live.

It's honestly like I'm talking to a brick wall. I didn't like Quilford's reaction to pressure but I didn't want to tell him that because I wanted to see if he would react badly again! You tell someone that his reaction to pressure was scummy for x reason, and the next time they are pressured in th game, they won't do that again. It makes the reaction more forced, less genuine, and less useful in ascertaining alignment.

I am simply more concerned with finding scum than with covering my own ass. If this means I have to withhold sometimes, I'll do it. It's not something I do all the time, but in this case, I thought it was best.

If you think skimming the game and answering RQS takes just as much effort as reading carefully and formulating thoughts, it's not surprising that I think you should read more carefully. Please re-read the posts you are responding to before you post again and ask these questions: "Has this been answered before? Is the answer implied by a previous answer? What is there to gain by seeking this information?"

I apologize to everyone else in this game for being forced to spam it with repetitive shit.
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Post Post #172 (isolation #35) » Thu May 12, 2011 8:07 pm

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I AM asking him to explain himself. He damn well better do so -- and soon.

Sometimes, it is good to force a change of behavior for analysis. Most of the time, even. Once again, this is theory discussion. It's pointless. Stop.

I formulate thoughts when I read things, but I usually try to read several times before posting -- but at the time, I was literally IN THE CAR posting from my phone while navigating for my mother. I had neither the time nor the inclination to type out an organized, readable post right then, and the main point of that post was to notify people of that.

ALL OF THIS SHOULD BE SO OBVIOUS.
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Post Post #175 (isolation #36) » Thu May 12, 2011 8:29 pm

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My phrasing wasn't the best, but it is implied. I want an explanation from him.

I am saying that different tactics should be employed in different situations ... which is the same thing I have been saying all along.

This is SO pointless. I want to pull my hair out. Please, drop this stupid line of questioning that has no discernible benefit for anyone ever.
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Post Post #177 (isolation #37) » Thu May 12, 2011 8:36 pm

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And now they're sheeping each other. Oh, joy. They really might be scum together.
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Post Post #180 (isolation #38) » Thu May 12, 2011 9:15 pm

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In everything I said to Quilford it was implied.

I didn't say I was never going to explain why I found Quilford scummy -- and indeed I have! I just delayed it by like 1 real life day. Not even that much, I think.

That last was poor phrasing from me. Andrew is sheeping you. You are not sheeping him. Nevertheless, there is a connection between you two.

It's kind of cute you think you have out argued me.
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Post Post #183 (isolation #39) » Thu May 12, 2011 9:30 pm

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Neither of those are my arguments. Please read more carefully if you're going to drag things out like this.
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Post Post #186 (isolation #40) » Thu May 12, 2011 9:41 pm

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Once again, NO.

I'm done repeating myself. DONE.

Still not convinced you're scum, though. But your reading comprehension might be an issue.
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Post Post #189 (isolation #41) » Thu May 12, 2011 10:45 pm

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Why do you know better, Snake?
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Post Post #201 (isolation #42) » Fri May 13, 2011 7:54 am

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Hmm.

I'm seeing Ghostlin more now. Still not the lynch I want for the day, but it isn't as bad as I thought.

His insistence on drawing an andrew/muffin connection is so strong that he's much closer than muffin to doing what he accused muffin of: setting up lynches.

There's a difference between acknowledging the possibility and sounding super sure of a pair without any flips.
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Post Post #203 (isolation #43) » Fri May 13, 2011 8:16 am

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... Quilford. Have you read?
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Post Post #208 (isolation #44) » Fri May 13, 2011 8:51 am

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I also disliked his reaction to the C-Worl thing.
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Post Post #213 (isolation #45) » Fri May 13, 2011 1:17 pm

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So suggesting a policy lynch is scummy in and of itself?
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Post Post #215 (isolation #46) » Fri May 13, 2011 1:23 pm

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Disliking it as a point in theory doesn't make it scummy. How is it scummy?
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Post Post #217 (isolation #47) » Fri May 13, 2011 1:24 pm

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I know that, Tragedy.

I don't care what Quilford thinks about policy lynches except as it applies to his treatment of zmuffin.
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Post Post #224 (isolation #48) » Fri May 13, 2011 2:44 pm

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Quilford wrote:whoops

UNVOTE: zMuffinMan

because I don't like anyone else on the wagon


Who on the wagon don't you like and why?


Andrew, it's true that you can't use a chainsaw without flips, but you need to post some real content and reads. After such an extended absence I expect a reads list.
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Post Post #228 (isolation #49) » Fri May 13, 2011 4:09 pm

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Who?
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Post Post #229 (isolation #50) » Fri May 13, 2011 4:09 pm

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Oh, you just told me.

Hmm.

I missed that.

Good find, Tragedy.
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Post Post #231 (isolation #51) » Fri May 13, 2011 8:33 pm

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You don't think andrew was sheeping you, zmuffin? lolwat

Ghostlin is null leaning scummy for me now.
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Post Post #233 (isolation #52) » Fri May 13, 2011 9:02 pm

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Because you were the only one who expressed any sort of suspicion on me and the only thing he's talked about all game is you.
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Post Post #235 (isolation #53) » Fri May 13, 2011 9:40 pm

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It was the timing of it, obviously.

If he magically comes in here and has some case on me that is separate from yours, I'll retract it. Until then, no.
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Post Post #252 (isolation #54) » Sat May 14, 2011 7:18 pm

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dvdkid, quilford, and andrew.

Waiting on content.
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Post Post #254 (isolation #55) » Sat May 14, 2011 7:35 pm

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He probably meant AtE, in which case, he's full of shit.
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Post Post #256 (isolation #56) » Sat May 14, 2011 9:40 pm

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That is not actually how hypoclaiming works.

Everyone claims random innocents AND guilties so that we don't out the cop.

But in this case, edmund's idea might work better.

We KNOW there's not a scum RB, which is basically the only way it could work.


I'm for it. I think it's a good idea.


Also, Quilford is content-dodging here but replaced into another game. Suspicion rises higher.
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Post Post #258 (isolation #57) » Sat May 14, 2011 9:44 pm

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Want to quote my supposed AtE then?
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Post Post #266 (isolation #58) » Sat May 14, 2011 10:19 pm

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Andrew, that is not AtE. You perhaps need a lesson on AtE.

That, my friend, is a huge amount of frustration being expressed in the kindest way possible. Why you think that would invoke pity or sympathy I do not know. It is actually quite antagonistic.


Quilford needs to read more carefully.

The proposed plan of hypoclaiming is that EVERYONE claims innocents ALL THE TIME until the real cop gets a guilty.

Yes, it outs the cop, but it outs the cop with a guilty and a string of innocents, which may very well win us the game.

There is no RB to throw a wrench in this plan.

Also, Quoraoth lurked this hard one other time I've seen him, he was scum.
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Post Post #268 (isolation #59) » Sat May 14, 2011 10:49 pm

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Hmm.

Good point, there.

But cop isn't the only PR and even if the cop gets killed before he gets a guilty then we get a couple of innocents which would be awesome.
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Post Post #270 (isolation #60) » Sat May 14, 2011 11:01 pm

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No, today is better. We should decide for or against today.
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Post Post #283 (isolation #61) » Sun May 15, 2011 3:01 pm

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It would still wifom scum.

But I really don't care either way.
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Post Post #286 (isolation #62) » Sun May 15, 2011 4:19 pm

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Tragedy, please translate that post into English.
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Post Post #288 (isolation #63) » Sun May 15, 2011 4:22 pm

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What was it saying about me, though?

I honestly tried to read it.
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Post Post #294 (isolation #64) » Sun May 15, 2011 9:03 pm

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So andrew just asked us to help him not read the thread.

Want to know who has motivation to not read the thread and only avoid suspicion by answering questions to him? Scum.
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Post Post #296 (isolation #65) » Sun May 15, 2011 9:08 pm

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Show me evidence you've read the thread.

I usually post MORE when I'm sick.
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Post Post #300 (isolation #66) » Sun May 15, 2011 11:11 pm

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Cworl, what about andrew then?
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Post Post #302 (isolation #67) » Mon May 16, 2011 6:00 am

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I believe edmund was referring to CryMeARiver's Follow The Cop ... Or Not. Link is in my wiki.
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Post Post #306 (isolation #68) » Mon May 16, 2011 8:57 am

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Ghostlin, that is the worst vote ever.
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Post Post #311 (isolation #69) » Mon May 16, 2011 2:14 pm

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Quilford, Ghostlin, and andrew are my top 3, in order. Ghostlin is starting to fight for first place.
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Post Post #313 (isolation #70) » Mon May 16, 2011 2:16 pm

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Welcome, redcobalt. Looking forward to your thoughts.
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Post Post #347 (isolation #71) » Tue May 17, 2011 2:05 pm

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UNVOTE: Quilford

VOTE: Tragedy
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Post Post #357 (isolation #72) » Tue May 17, 2011 5:17 pm

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Mod: Can the MadLibs "thing" be penis? >.>

To be more specific, I'm looking for three nouns. ~ CHK


I need to check out the Ltragedy doesn't vote as scum" meta, though I do remember her voting more as town.

Can someone give me a link?
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Post Post #359 (isolation #73) » Tue May 17, 2011 7:03 pm

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Mod: Penis is a noun. It could be one of three. >.>
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Post Post #364 (isolation #74) » Tue May 17, 2011 9:32 pm

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Execution Mafia in my wiki is one example of Tragedy town I can think of where she lived a long time. Of course, that game functioned without normal votes... I think I've played with her elsewhere, but I can't recall. In Execution, she did express her reads more, and they were better.
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Post Post #367 (isolation #75) » Tue May 17, 2011 9:53 pm

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I didn't care that you got sick and went on v/la, andrew. You don't get it, still. NOT READING THE THREAD DOES NOT MAKE YOU GOOD AT MAFIA.

Not being useful to the town is scummy, which makes you scummy, andrew.

My vote is not on you, but have done nothing and that post happened to announce that you never plan on being useful to the town, only avoiding your own death, which is ... you guess it ... SCUMMY.
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Post Post #371 (isolation #76) » Tue May 17, 2011 10:42 pm

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C-Worl wrote:
Amrun wrote:
To be more specific, I'm looking for three nouns. ~ CHK


Penis, ass, and hammer



Ding ding ding. We have a winner.

This is so shameless.
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Post Post #381 (isolation #77) » Wed May 18, 2011 7:28 am

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Redcobalt, if someone is asking you questions, do you think it is pro-town to ignore them?

What about changing your vote is scummy?
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Post Post #388 (isolation #78) » Wed May 18, 2011 12:12 pm

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Redcobalt, I was not referring to previous questions. What I mean is this:

If player X is questioning Player Y, is Player Y scummy for answering?

I dislike this apologizing for experience level and blatant incorrectness on basic mafia theory, and in thread, as it's not like I've been passing out votes like candy.
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Post Post #395 (isolation #79) » Wed May 18, 2011 10:01 pm

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Andrew, don't you think it's more likely that snake just messed up the tag? What a stretch. And you did not answer Ghostlin's questions properly. Please do so.

Snake, Cworl, red: content please.
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Post Post #398 (isolation #80) » Thu May 19, 2011 12:39 am

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Who is David?
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Post Post #402 (isolation #81) » Thu May 19, 2011 12:55 am

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My bad; add GI to the needs content list.

Tragedyy, what is your alignment?
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Post Post #405 (isolation #82) » Thu May 19, 2011 1:00 am

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Andrew and Ghostlin, what is your previous experience with dvdkid?

Tragedy, I'm waiting.
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Post Post #410 (isolation #83) » Thu May 19, 2011 1:27 am

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My god. It's like none of you read your role PMs.
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Post Post #419 (isolation #84) » Thu May 19, 2011 1:58 am

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Yes, I was.

Not everyone is South-Park aligned. I am not, for example. Inb4 everyone thinks I'm scum.

Way to ruin valid questions, guys.

Tragedy scum now has plenty to fabricate, if she was going to.
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Post Post #421 (isolation #85) » Thu May 19, 2011 2:19 am

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Well, the "who" would be town. The where is the different part. It will be my little secret, for now. I have a theory but it isn't prudent to say just yet.
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Post Post #436 (isolation #86) » Thu May 19, 2011 11:14 am

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Redcolbalt wrote:
Amrun wrote:Redcobalt, I was not referring to previous questions. What I mean is this:

If player X is questioning Player Y, is Player Y scummy for answering?

I dislike this apologizing for experience level and blatant incorrectness on basic mafia theory, and in thread, as it's not like I've been passing out votes like candy.


Well, that depends. Player X could be scum , looking for PR's. Or... Player Y could actually be scum, and player X is trying to show the rest of the town that he is scum.



This is not an answer. If one player addresses another, is it scummy to address that question, even if you determine answering it isn't the right thing?
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Post Post #437 (isolation #87) » Thu May 19, 2011 11:16 am

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Also,

Unvote; vote Quilford
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Post Post #440 (isolation #88) » Thu May 19, 2011 11:56 am

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If you can't produce content, replace out for the good of us all.

Tragedy should be protected tonight. That way whomever Tragedy protects isn't going to already be protected.
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Post Post #444 (isolation #89) » Thu May 19, 2011 1:52 pm

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Red, then why am I scummy for responding to zmuffin's questions and comments to me?
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Post Post #452 (isolation #90) » Thu May 19, 2011 7:56 pm

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Grey, try content.

Snake... There are no words for you.
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Post Post #455 (isolation #91) » Thu May 19, 2011 8:16 pm

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Oh my God, our reads are like exactly the same. That's creepy, actually. It reassures me, though.

Me and you mini voting bloc? >.> Never done one, but ... this game. I think you know.
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Post Post #456 (isolation #92) » Thu May 19, 2011 8:18 pm

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Well, minus Tragedy. I believe her.

Also, what is your read on Quilford?
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Post Post #473 (isolation #93) » Fri May 20, 2011 10:19 am

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Hmm, Grey, what do you make of Ghostlin's claim? I think the Satan part, and especially how he danced around it, could be indicative of scum, given the flavor, which we have to guess at.

However, I keep flip flopping on ghostlin as a whole.

VOTE: RedCobalt

Voting bloc is a go, though I think we should consider snake today as an alternative.
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Post Post #488 (isolation #94) » Sat May 21, 2011 3:20 am

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LolQuilford.
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Post Post #495 (isolation #95) » Wed May 25, 2011 2:21 pm

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VOTE: Quilford
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Post Post #497 (isolation #96) » Wed May 25, 2011 5:19 pm

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You don't see any town motivation for NOT claiming for no reason? Why WOULD I do that?

And you probably need to learn what a voting bloc is.
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Post Post #500 (isolation #97) » Wed May 25, 2011 8:09 pm

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Uh, andrew, that game didn't invent voting blocs. And the bloc in that game was particularly pathetic and started by scum and full of scum.

This is basically just an alliance between me and Grey because we have mostly the same reads and can work well with each other.

Inevitably, we'll disagree about something and dissolve it.
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Post Post #510 (isolation #98) » Thu May 26, 2011 3:33 am

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VOTE: RedCobalt

I feel that Snake is a better shot, here. Request consider moving to snake?

Tragedy is what she says she is.


Scum:
Quilford
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Among these, thar be treasure.
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Post Post #518 (isolation #99) » Thu May 26, 2011 10:51 am

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zMuffinMan wrote:It's not "smart" play to avoid killing a faith healer.


When they can hunt for the other or the cop?

9/10 the other faith healer protected Tragedy last night.

A 50/50 chance of killing a faith healer, or a 100% chance of killing some other townie that might be a pr?

Plus the wifom of leaving Tragedy alive and hope for a mislynch.

The best scum play would have been to leave her alive last night, so it's a nulltell either way.
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Post Post #520 (isolation #100) » Thu May 26, 2011 10:58 am

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What?
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Post Post #524 (isolation #101) » Thu May 26, 2011 1:35 pm

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Saying I'm not from South Park does absolutely nothing.NOTHING. For anyone. Not scum, not town, no one. Point is totally fabricated.

I do not totally agree that red is the way to go, but grey sees something and it's more than lurking. We are more effective paired together, as 2 votes count for more than 1. If Grey keeps ignoring my suggestions, mini bloc will resolve.

I never thought Ghostlin was scum. I wavered on him, and clearly he was acting scummy enough to be lynched, but I had a townread on him in the beginning and I never abandoned it. I didn't vote for him because I didn't think he was scum. That's generally how things work.
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Post Post #526 (isolation #102) » Thu May 26, 2011 1:58 pm

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Which means that I am aligned to another place, meaning I am from another place. I think. I didn't bother to wiki anything.
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Post Post #528 (isolation #103) » Thu May 26, 2011 2:09 pm

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So you're criticizing me and Grey for voting red, yet he's on your scumlist? Nice contradiction.
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Post Post #532 (isolation #104) » Thu May 26, 2011 2:32 pm

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Flip flopping implies I am not sure someone is scum. When I don't have a strong conviction someone is scum, I don't tend to vote for that person. It's just common sense.

And stop fishing.
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Post Post #534 (isolation #105) » Thu May 26, 2011 4:02 pm

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You know what?

Unvote; Vote: andrew


This doesn't fit his town meta.
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Post Post #548 (isolation #106) » Fri May 27, 2011 9:28 am

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I'm never wrong? What?
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Post Post #551 (isolation #107) » Fri May 27, 2011 3:32 pm

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What is a slip, andrew?

And I have, very simply, seen your town play and it is not this. I have checked out your other games you were playing at the same time, sickness and lan parties and all, and the level of effort and evidence of scumhunting is significantly higher.

This is, of course, in addition to your in-thread issues of completely unsubstantiated votes, total lack of scumhunting, and expression of survival-only motivation and declarations that you will not read the thread. And total lack of content.
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Post Post #555 (isolation #108) » Fri May 27, 2011 5:29 pm

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Dvdkid, I won't answer your questions because I do not believe it is in town's best interest. Suffice to say that I had a reason(s).

Zmuffin stated very well why this alignment shit is bogus - and he suspects me for other reasons to boot, so he has no real reason to say this.

Tragedy, where on earth did you get that and isn't it against the rules to make things blue?
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Post Post #557 (isolation #109) » Fri May 27, 2011 5:33 pm

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Way to answer the least important question only.
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Post Post #560 (isolation #110) » Sat May 28, 2011 2:34 am

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zMuffinMan wrote:I... don't even know where to begin with #558. I think it's best we all pretend that post doesn't exist.


I agree.

C-Worl, please respond to my question from before. Why are you voting for me if I'm supposedly always right?
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Post Post #562 (isolation #111) » Sat May 28, 2011 2:45 am

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That is not what your post says.
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Post Post #564 (isolation #112) » Sat May 28, 2011 2:50 am

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Okay.

Even assuming that as town, split is never wrong (which is a fallacy), how do you know split's alignment this game?
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Post Post #566 (isolation #113) » Sat May 28, 2011 2:57 am

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Then why are you sheeping him? How do you feel about me/my alignment, disregarding splitfarvle's opinoins?
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Post Post #571 (isolation #114) » Sat May 28, 2011 1:07 pm

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I know what a slip is. Lol.

I was asking you what supposed slip you were referring to.
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Post Post #573 (isolation #115) » Sat May 28, 2011 3:36 pm

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Yes... But what are you talking about?
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Post Post #587 (isolation #116) » Sun May 29, 2011 3:01 am

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Empking wrote:
Ranmaru wrote:Oh ok. I'm on pg 2. I replaced GreyIce it seems. So far, I don't like Ghostlin.


Really?

Amrun: Is the voting bloc disbanded?


Yes.

And I wasn't trying to use Grey. We get along pretty well and had very similar reads, and I trust him not to pull shenanigans.

I have no similar faith in Ranmaru.

In fact, I had disbanded it before Grey got replaced because he was stuck on redcobalt and it wasn't working out as I had hoped.

I sincerely hope Ranmaru actually posts content this game. Consider this your second chance.
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Post Post #596 (isolation #117) » Sun May 29, 2011 4:21 am

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Empking, I created the bloc and I intended it to be a compromis to get our mutual scumreads lynched, but he wasn't eally compromising and a red lynch wasn't going anywhere either so I. Gave up.
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Post Post #597 (isolation #118) » Sun May 29, 2011 4:28 am

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In other games, when we have had townreads on each other, we have done "you help me lynch x today and I'll help you lynch ) tomorrow" deals, just less formally. That's what I was proposing, but Grey obviously wasn't very interested in this game and it fell apart.
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Post Post #619 (isolation #119) » Sun May 29, 2011 7:25 am

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My reasoning was how he went after Zmuffin. Not all of his arguments were correct, especially later in the day, but the effort was good and seemed to come from a town motivation.

As his arguments suffered later in the day, I wavered, but ultimately kept my townread.

Don't think I like Ranmaru's replace in post, but my townread on grey is strong enough to outweigh that. Ranmaru's comments are hard to follow and mostly fluff.

Also her reads are terrible and basically none of the things she calls scummy from anyone actualky is scummy.


Zmuff, I think you are right on the scumteam.

Empking's weak attack on my voting bloc has been nagging me, because I've seen him propose them and lead them as town before with FAR less basis.
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Post Post #622 (isolation #120) » Sun May 29, 2011 7:41 am

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It's pretty ironic that you tell me to learn to read when you're totally wrong because you didn't read correctly yourself. Grey was directing it to Red. I proposed thhe voting bloc and Grey agreed but then wasn't here enough for it to be succesful. He chose Red; I wanted it to be on Quil on d1 and snake on d2.

I have been in games with town Emp where he led really poorly founded voting blocs with far skimpier reasoning. See chesskid's mini normal (complete) for reference. Therefore, I find his attack extremely hypocritical and don't think it's coming from a town perspective.

Zmuffin went from scummy to townish to full on town today.

Quil went from null to scummy to null leaning scum.
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Post Post #625 (isolation #121) » Sun May 29, 2011 7:55 am

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I just realized that was the game I blacklisted you for, so if you read it, you would. Have known.

And yes, you misread that.

I am not explaining my read on zmuffin from yesterday because most of yesterday was a back and forth between me and him so my thought process is quite transparent.

This tells me that though you have read, you haven't read closely. I knew that. All ready from your fluffy replace in "analysis."

Day 2, zmuffin's thought processes have followed my own quite closely which is a huge towntell for me.

Quil has been less transparent, so: null at first because he was a non-entity, scummy for previously explained reasons, null leaning scummy because he disappeared and other people rose high enough to eclipse him on the scum list.
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Post Post #629 (isolation #122) » Sun May 29, 2011 8:43 am

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Empking wrote:
zMuffinMan wrote:Requesting consideration is insidiously wresting control?


That's what it looked like.


That doesn't make sense. You have either woefully misinterpreted the second half of yesterday or are willfully misrepresented the situation. I think the latter is more likely, and only scum would do that.
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Post Post #633 (isolation #123) » Sun May 29, 2011 9:34 am

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I formed the voting bloc. Grey insisted on Red. I agreed, with the expectation that my reads would get more input the next day. He keppt voting red today when there were better alternatives, but I thought maybe he had a good reason, but I wanted to know if he thought snake was voteworthy as the nightkill somewhat implicated him. Grey replaced out.

People who ally generally share their reads and ask each other about reads. That's how it works.

If anyone wrested control, it was grey. In chesskid's game, you just declared a bunch of people town (including some scum) on like pg 1 for no reason and then demanded they switch votes with you. If the person who forms the bloc has the most power, it is impossible for me to wrest control. I didn't inetend that, though; I wanted a partnership, like grey and I had done informally in other games.
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Post Post #636 (isolation #124) » Sun May 29, 2011 9:45 am

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Empking wrote:
Amrun wrote:

If anyone wrested control, it was grey. In chesskid's game, you just declared a bunch of people town (including some scum) on like pg 1 for no reason and then demanded they switch votes with you. If the person who forms the bloc has the most power, it is impossible for me to wrest control.


Grey had the power. You wanted the power in order to neuter Grey.


What the hell are you talking about, seriously? Grey has been a non-entity in this game. His interest was clearly waning and I was hoping to revitalize it. I failed in this.

I had and still have more of a voice - ie power - in this game.

How you are coming to this wildly inaccurate conclusion I have no idea.

Ranmaru, is it possible that you are sniffing glue? Holding hands? Wtf?

Why would I need to wrest control when I already had it? Why would that be a scumtell anyway?

I know why grey replaced out of this game. The level of play is frustrating and I was hoping to keep some sanity.
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Post Post #638 (isolation #125) » Sun May 29, 2011 9:51 am

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That's useless. Never heard of it. Voting bloc actually gets shit done, which is what I was interested in. I knew I wouldn't have to spell it out for him - if he had been really playing, anyway.
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Post Post #640 (isolation #126) » Sun May 29, 2011 10:10 am

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But the voting bloc was two people. In fact, I called it a mini-bloc to distinguish. What I was proposing IS what you say I should have proposed, except I called it a mini voting bloc. You think we were going to force the town to lynch or nl with two votes? Yeah right.

The reason I only wanted me and grey was because I wasn't confident anyone else was town and I knew grey and I could be effective together.
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Post Post #647 (isolation #127) » Sun May 29, 2011 4:22 pm

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C-Worl wrote:
andrew94 wrote:a slip is where you say something that you know but not supposed to know,

post 558 is just bullshit. hes using retarded and roles that are not in this game e.g rolecop etc.
there is one way you know that tragedy is a faith healer, the way is that if you are mafia and tragedy is not your partner. you forgot to mention that?


How would I know her role if she's not my partner and there is no rolecop?


Because scum know who town is and town wouldn't claim faith healer as a lie, most likely. Derp.

Zmuff: splitfarvle is simply misguided, C-Worl is sheeping for no good reason and apprently dodging my questions, Empking is just opportunistic scum, and Ranmaru is like LOL DIDNT READ and thinks I'm scummy because I have a high post volume and he has comprehended 0 about this thread so far.
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Post Post #663 (isolation #128) » Mon May 30, 2011 6:29 pm

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He thinks it's too early to bus his scumbuddy when he smells a mislynch on the horizon. :wink:
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Post Post #667 (isolation #129) » Mon May 30, 2011 10:29 pm

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Empking wrote:Muffin: Andrew is thinking in a genuine way.


"Why did you vote for Amrun?"

"I don't remember."

That sounds genuine to you? It's not like he's been transparent.
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Post Post #669 (isolation #130) » Mon May 30, 2011 10:39 pm

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We disagree, then.
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Post Post #682 (isolation #131) » Tue May 31, 2011 2:14 pm

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Ranmaru wrote:
Amrun wrote:He thinks it's too early to bus his scumbuddy when he smells a mislynch on the horizon. :wink:


Why did you answer before Empking could answer?


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Post Post #688 (isolation #132) » Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:00 am

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Tragedy reading for ME? Lol.
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Post Post #690 (isolation #133) » Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:04 am

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You're not reading.

I detailed very clearly the in-game reasons I think andrew is scum.

I also gave reasons on RedCobalt at some point.

My reasoning on you was a bit weak, but I was mostly just riding the wagin to see what shook out. However, not laying down a vote is a scumtell, and you fit that - and it matched up with your scum meta.

I've also said mutliple times toda that andrew is scummer than Quilford.

I answered every one of these before. Please read.
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Post Post #700 (isolation #134) » Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:31 pm

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Tragedy wrote:
Amrun wrote:My reasoning on you was a bit weak, but I was mostly just riding the wagin to see what shook out.
However, not laying down a vote is a scumtell, and you fit that
- and it matched up with your scum meta.


Meta this, meta that.
Can't you just judge their scumminess on how they're currently doing, instead of trying to make yourself smarter by comparing one game to another, when we plan to play differently most of that time.


Read very carefully. I even bolded the most relevant part.
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Post Post #710 (isolation #135) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:45 am

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zMuffinMan wrote:FYI, Kyle is a jew, a ginger and is from new jersey. 3 strikes, andrew, 3 strikes.


I laughed.

Ranmaru, are you serious? I explained the pregression of my muffin read in real time, so I refuse to do it again because you're too lazy to look for yourself.
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Post Post #716 (isolation #136) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:48 am

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You need to say what is significant about those, from your point of view.
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Post Post #718 (isolation #137) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:56 am

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Agree with thing about C-Worl, disagree with thing about Muffin. He was trying to get andrew to stop slip-hunting and start scum-hunting. slip-hunting is a common mafia tactic.

We needed more andrew content before the hammer, but it fell anyway... Ugh.
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Post Post #723 (isolation #138) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:23 am

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Ranmaru wrote:Actually, Amrun, can you clarify how slip-hunting is a common mafia tactic, and not used by townies?

EMPKING, POST SOMETHING.


It just is. Do some research on it.

If scum can push a lynch through by catching "scumslips," that gets them out of REAL scumhunting while making them look productive and mostly absolves them of blame after the mislynch, since they can just say, "everyone else saw it too!"
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Post Post #728 (isolation #139) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:19 pm

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Lol.
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Post Post #730 (isolation #140) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:09 pm

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Suffer no gingers to live.
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Post Post #740 (isolation #141) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:35 pm

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C-Worl wrote:
Vote: Amrun


She's admittedly not South Park aligned.


Use your brains. Why would I say that if I were mafia? It's not like I was under pressure.

Everyone has both a town/mafia alignment AND a place. They are not related. That teacher was from South Park.


Vote: Empking



Obvious buddy is obvious.

Would also be willing to compromise on whomever replaced RedCobalt for that TERRIBLE hammer. However, there's a chance RedCobalt was just terrible town. It really did look like a scum hammer, though.
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Post Post #742 (isolation #142) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:43 pm

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I really want to hear from zmuffin.

I think Empking is almost definitely scum, though.
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Post Post #750 (isolation #143) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:06 pm

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I knew that shit. I'm the other faith healer and I protected you last night, zmuffin, because you were obvcop.

I'm Phillip and Terrence (sp) and I'm Canada-aligned ... still town. Please, can we not get into that shit again.

P sure Tragedy is the other faith healer. All of her answers to my questions matched up with my PM. I protected her n1.
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Post Post #751 (isolation #144) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:08 pm

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I would like to give jilynne time to clear up the confusion with the role pm, considering we had two replacements at the same time.

If split is scum, then the last scum is one of C-Worl, Empking, or CSL. C-Worl's buddying and continual push of split's case today makes him more suspicious if split was scum.
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Post Post #754 (isolation #145) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:24 pm

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Pushed a really stupid case on me, I'm assuming.

VOTE: jillynne
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Post Post #757 (isolation #146) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:28 pm

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Don't hammer yet. We need to coordinate night actions.
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Post Post #760 (isolation #147) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:35 pm

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Empking is still my bet, followed by CSL with an outside chance of Quilford.

I will protect zmuffin. Tragedy can protect whomever she likes that isn't zmuffin.
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Post Post #762 (isolation #148) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:39 pm

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I seriously hope you're just fucking with us.
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Post Post #784 (isolation #149) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:26 pm

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All the PRs are claimed.

Someone, make it stop.
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Post Post #805 (isolation #150) » Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:44 am

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C-Worl is probably the last scum. He used the sample VT role PM and they're probably all different. HOWEVER! Everyone should claim to verify this.

I protected zmuffin last night but I guess they got lucky. :(
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Post Post #807 (isolation #151) » Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:50 am

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Why aren't you a Chocolate Townie? :(
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Post Post #809 (isolation #152) » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:03 am

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C-Worl.

VOTE: C-Worl

He obv just fakeclaimed.
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Post Post #813 (isolation #153) » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:38 am

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Claim or die, Empking.
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Post Post #819 (isolation #154) » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:44 am

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Why did you claim before empking? No. Bad Ranmaru.

And hey, you're another Chocolate Townie. :lol:

P-edit: You're a hell of a lot scummier than anyone else, Empking, and we did not declare popcorn.

And I jsut remembered that Jimbo was the first VT role that everyne got sent before it got changed to Towellie.

C-Worl dies today.

Stop fucking ninjaing me. :(
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Post Post #821 (isolation #155) » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:49 am

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Tragedy claimed day 1, so whomever wrotw. That is stupid.
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Post Post #823 (isolation #156) » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:51 am

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Empking, you should have claimed after c-Worl, and then CSL, and THEN Ranmaru. You going last was fucking worst-case scenario..
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Post Post #832 (isolation #157) » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:18 am

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Oh my God, I forgot Quilford was playing.

Honestly, I don't care about him. C-Worl and Empking are more likely buddies. He's like 4th most likely buddy. I suspected him day 1 and I want him to post and claim, but we have enough mislynchhes that I'm not stalling the game out for him. He needs to be replaced.

Tragedy, C-Worl, Quilford: Did you not get the Jimbo VT role as a mass PM before the game started?

Ranmaru, the thief/gun thing is just flavor.

P-edit: Because I protected him, Tragedy, and if we both protect him, his chance of protection drops to zero. Are you sure you understand your own role, Tragedy?
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Post Post #838 (isolation #158) » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:27 am

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I couldn't organize the claim because it happened before I really had a say in it.

I did protect zmuffin - last night AND the night before that. Read your damn role pm, Tragedy.

Tragedy, please answer my question about the Jimbo thing.

P-edit: Only missing claim from Quilford, so good fucking luck.

P-edit 2: No, it's C-Worl today, as it's 9/10 that was a fakeclaim. If I'm wrong, we'll lynch one of CSL/Empking/Quilford tomorrow.
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Post Post #843 (isolation #159) » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:31 am

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Tragedy wrote:Jimbo, Jimbo.
I think I would believe him, honestly.


DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT RECEIVE A MASS PM CONTAINING THE JIMBO ROLE PM PREGAME? CHECK YOUR PMS.
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Post Post #849 (isolation #160) » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:38 am

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Tragedy, seriously check.

Empking was a replacement, so I doubt he got the PM.

I got a mass PM with a Jimbo VT role, just as C-Worl has claimed. Due to this mistake, the mod changed the VT role in the OP to Towelie. Brb need to check what he said about that.
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Post Post #854 (isolation #161) » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:50 am

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I can't find it now. :(

I know I read it, though. I KNOW I DID!

I lust for C-Worl's blood either way.

Everything CSL is saying about C-Worl applies ti CSL too but I don't care. C-Worl dies.
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Post Post #868 (isolation #162) » Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:26 pm

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I think Jimbo used to be the VT role PM inn the OP, but it was changed to Towelie because Towellie got mass PMed to several different players. After research, this is what I think happened.

So C-Worl hangs kthx.

That was clever, though, C-Worl!
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Post Post #877 (isolation #163) » Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:13 am

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Where are your breadcrumbs? And quit with the ad hom.

Also you're smarter than to think one of the only two people in the game claiming faith healer isn't a faith healer.

Also if I was scum and got a fakeclaim, it would be guaranteed to not be in the game.

But you know that already. :wink:
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Post Post #879 (isolation #164) » Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:50 am

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Don't worry, CSL. He's eating noose for dinner.

Someone hammer plz.

Hey, C-Worl, thread needs a penis.:P
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Post Post #884 (isolation #165) » Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:03 am

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Just because Andrew cllaimed Kyle doesn't mean they got safe claims. Kyle the Jew is a really boring name compared to the real vt claims.
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Post Post #887 (isolation #166) » Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:15 am

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Didn't the scum flip south park aligned anyway?

P-edit: it could be. He was obviously just wifoming at that point. He said he was kyle the jew and protected Tragedy and some such.
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Post Post #888 (isolation #167) » Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:15 am

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Plus there aren't usually fake claims in opens.
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Post Post #890 (isolation #168) » Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:17 am

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Oh. Whateva whateva. C Worl can't live. To. LyLo with that claim so he dies today. If he is town, we're still in a good position.
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Post Post #895 (isolation #169) » Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:37 pm

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Pretty sure he already gave them.
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Post Post #924 (isolation #170) » Sat Jun 11, 2011 3:03 pm

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Okay, this is dumb. If this is a fakeclaim you clearly had it planned since it was the PM on the beginning of the page.

BUT!

We can lynch Quilford first. I suspected him on day 1 and C-Worl is showing effort so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Post Post #929 (isolation #171) » Sat Jun 11, 2011 3:08 pm

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I am honestly willing to lynch Quil, CSL, or Empking today. CSL is probably my preference for redcobalt's terribad hammer.

Quoraoth never posted except a v/la or something.
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Post Post #960 (isolation #172) » Sat Jun 11, 2011 3:54 pm

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Eh, CSL's response seems kind of genuine to me.
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Post Post #965 (isolation #173) » Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:23 pm

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The stuff I detailed on day 1 plus PoE. Also, you totally avoided content for two scumlynches and I have to consider whether or not that was intentional.
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Post Post #970 (isolation #174) » Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:41 pm

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No, the reaction to the early game joke was pretty bad as well.

C-Worl, your AtE and ad hom is allll over the place, come on.

But C-Worl isn't female, you know.
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Post Post #988 (isolation #175) » Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:18 pm

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FUCK THIS

VOTE: Empking
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Post Post #990 (isolation #176) » Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:21 pm

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..............

May I redirect you towards the thread or if you haven't read it, please do so.
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Post Post #993 (isolation #177) » Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:46 am

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You didn't. CSL did.
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Post Post #995 (isolation #178) » Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:58 am

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Gave townish reactions.
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Post Post #1011 (isolation #179) » Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:40 am

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Tragedy has too posted...
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Post Post #1012 (isolation #180) » Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:40 am

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[Vote: C-Worl


We need a flip.
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Post Post #1019 (isolation #181) » Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:25 am

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Is everyone high or something? I put CWorl at L-1.
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Post Post #1021 (isolation #182) » Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:41 am

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Ohhh, misread CSL as C-Worl

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Post Post #1024 (isolation #183) » Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:11 am

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Doesn't make a difference. If you're going to self vote, just hammer.
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Post Post #1031 (isolation #184) » Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:59 pm

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Look. I wanted to lynch C Worl. I can't do it by myself, for Christ's sakes. This is probably a fucking mislynch and I'm displeased about it, but no one will listen to me about anything.

The last scum is in Empking or C-Worl, probably in that order, if CSL isn't it and I die overnight.
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