VOTE: datisiIn post 11, Datisi wrote:fair warning that i am going to be extremely lazy this game but will still solve the game anyway ok cool thanks
Got u boo
VOTE: datisiIn post 11, Datisi wrote:fair warning that i am going to be extremely lazy this game but will still solve the game anyway ok cool thanks
I read Gamma's post like 4 times and I'm not sure if I actually learned anythingIn post 20, Datisi wrote:everyone who has posted so far is town, with the exception of dwlee (whose first post is nullishly scummy) and gamma (whose post i did not bother to read). please discuss.
classic distance into chainsawIn post 24, Datisi wrote:oh no baltar rolled scumIn post 22, VP Baltar wrote:I read Gamma's post like 4 times and I'm not sure if I actually learned anythingIn post 20, Datisi wrote:everyone who has posted so far is town, with the exception of dwlee (whose first post is nullishly scummy) and gamma (whose post i did not bother to read). please discuss.
It's not about you reading me though. It's about "can datisi remember thing I told him" and the answer is obviously yes since you remember like every game every person has played in.In post 36, Datisi wrote:don't see why it should be, not like i suddenly got better at reading you or faking paranoia.In post 35, VP Baltar wrote:Why do you think I'd put stock in a tell of yours that I explicitly called out before? Isn't it essentially invalid now that you're aware?
You're not going to do this the whole game are you?In post 39, Rhyme and Reason wrote:To post perchance to hunt, to find the scum
A challenge hard and harder still for we
A post restriction have — we must of old
Out write our words — ten beats the line no more
No less, a pattern of da-dun da-dun
How Shakespeare wrote: the old pentameter
VOTE: datisi
Old friend, old foe, I greet thee here with love
~Rhyme
So do you have to write in pentameter or iambic pentameter?In post 47, Rhyme and Reason wrote:Dear friend, to break this law would bringIn post 44, VP Baltar wrote:You're not going to do this the whole game are you?In post 39, Rhyme and Reason wrote:To post perchance to hunt, to find the scum
A challenge hard and harder still for we
A post restriction have — we must of old
Out write our words — ten beats the line no more
No less, a pattern of da-dun da-dun
How Shakespeare wrote: the old pentameter
VOTE: datisi
Old friend, old foe, I greet thee here with love
~Rhyme
Untimely doom upon our heads. We must
Upkeep our way to speak, until such point
that Liberty be left to us by grace
~Rhyme
I'm not super worried about the daily post restriction. This thread will blow up while I sleep inevitably, so I'd rather interact with people before I'm behind.In post 58, fireisredsir wrote:vp it feels like you're using a lot of your limited posts on things that are unrelated to alignment or moving the game forward
This was my impression, which....In post 66, Datisi wrote:it does more often happen when i'm scum, though i think not exclusively.
Ah fair enough. I was going to blast them because they definitely broke the post restriction more than once already if they were going to claim it.In post 75, fireisredsir wrote:its literally in the setup post as an example that there won't be an Iambic-Pentameter Post Restricted role. that's clearly why he's doing it lol. sorry to ruin the joke but stop wasting posts speculating on this
UNVOTE:In post 99, Lukewarm wrote:I would like to point out that Marci voted Datisi in post 19 saying "I THINK HE COULD BE SCUM"
But the reason being presented once he became a real wagon was because he was ignoring votes - which distinctly cannot be the reason why she voted him originally in post 19, because Datisi had zero posts between Baltar casting the first vote on Datisi and Marci voting Datisi
Can you point to a specific response from Marci you think she couldn't do as scum and explain why you think that?In post 108, Fey wrote:I want to say this is Marci's towngame off the top of my head. Not freezing up, replying/responding to a few different things. Seems out of the scope for her from what I recall.
lol I really have not clue what your post restriction actually is then other than posting short half sentences then because you are definitely nowhere near iambic pentameter at this point.In post 120, Rhyme and Reason wrote:The latter; and in fact he did mess up.
But luckily we needn't be exact--
The point is just that there's an effort made.
uh, why not?In post 124, Bell wrote:Not sure Luke comes out swinging on Marc but it’s early.
What reaction were you looking for to help you decide either town or scum?In post 130, takotsubo syndrome wrote:For me my vote was more of a reaction test on Datisi. Which obviously has a chance to be skewed, but I'm ok with it for what it produced.
I came in prepared to hate this becauseIn post 131, Val89 wrote:I wonder, particularly given the use in the previous post, if I understand 'vibes' to mean something different to others. I voted datisi because something felt off about his posting in a way I was (and still am) unable to fully articulate - datisi suggests in 60 it is an awkwardness, and perhaps that is one way to describe it - if I was to make a better attempt, I think the early interactions with VP felt a little contrived, like it was trying to get out in front of something. I'm not usually a player to rely on the feels or gut, or whatever, and the fact that ping was going off at this early stage in the game was plenty sufficient for me to place a vote there.
Having not been given any articulated reasons for the suspicion falling on him, I find no fault in datisi essentially ignoring them. Takotsubo above suggests this is slightly town indicative, but putting myself in datisi's shoes, I can't see how you would play differently as either alignment, for the reasons given in 60 and therefore can't consider it alignment indicative either way. I'm left with whatever it was that pinged me in the first place, which hasn't gone away albeit datisi has had little opportunity since. I am leaving my vote there, but I do have to scratch my head at the the takotsubo unvote. I could understand moving the vote, but a naked unvote seems a little odd to me, particularly if, as claimed, the vote was intended as a reaction test.
Moving to the wagon more widely, the fact that one did build up to +50% of the votes required to hammer before encountering resistance is interesting. It appears to me that, given that nobody has come out with a good articulated reason for the wagon, either some portion of the player-list also got the heeby-jeebies from datisi early on, or mafia have taken a early run at a town!datisi and artificially inflated the feeling of unease around the slot. I also acknowledge that it could well be elements of both, but I think if so, the majority is likely to fall into the former category, given that it should be fairly obvious a quick-wagon was never going to succeed on a town!datisi without at least some semi-reasonable basis and scum could expect to be called out once it stalled. The conclusions I draw from that are: a) there may well be something in the early feelings I had around datisi, and my vote can stay there while I look into the assertion that datisi is wagoned early all the time because of an awkwardness that isn't alignment indicative (I am unlikely to have time to do so today, so help in that regard would also be appreciated) and b) I think I can reasonably be suspicious of those slots who resisted the datisi wagon and threw shade on the members of it, on the basis that there was a wagon. I would be less concerned if they had cause to townread datisi themselves, but I see no evidence for it.
I was about to spell out who it is I mean by that, but it probably obvious whom falls into that category and I am wondering if, given the invictus mechanic, if this is a game I ought to be telegraphing exactly how my reads stand at all times. In regular games, I think that is largely how one should play, although I know there are disagreements on that score, but I wonder if the argument for playing ones cards closer to ones chest is stronger in this game than others. One the one hand, if you are right and are openly suspecting scum that might dissuade them from killing you at night and leaves you alive to continue to push those scum, but if you are wrong, and scum can reasonably infer you might have another town as the target of your invictus, there is the risk of handing scum a free two-for-one. Given the number of D1 TvT shitfights I have found myself in over the course of my mafia career, I am inclined not to choreograph my exact moves at least for today and until I feel much more comfortable I am on the right track.
Apologises to those who dislike wall posts, but I not sure of the alternative here.
In post 135, Datisi wrote:VOTE: marcistar
bell - scummy because he doesn't feel like he actually wants to be here
dunn - can be slight town for 50, feels nuanced *enough*
dwlee99 - lack of presence and the quickness of 118 is town.
enchant - dead null.
fey - i think slightly scummy because the convo with me felt more like posting for posting's sake but i am not married to this read
fireisredsir - town.
gammagooey - like both of the votes they've made. don't think they're trying to give off an impression that their posts are more useful than they are. slight town.
gorilla - townie for 92.
kovu - slightly townie for 81 because i don't expect scum!them to enter like that but we'll see how this progresses.
lady lambdadelta - null.
lavarmanos - slightly scummy maybe? my eyes are glazing over reading these posts. idk jury's still out.
lukewarm - mostly doesn't make my stomach turn so can be town for now. 101 is slightly sus but otherwise all ok.
marcistar - lol scum
meuh - 63 felt too tryhardy, the points on me in 79 feel off, and the "haha i am glad to be town!! and solving!!" is forced
rhyme and reason - 120 feels kinda townie idk why call it vibes. i wanna see mena freak out that i'm townreading his slot for nonsense ok.
sircakez - slightly SLIGHTLY townie for 13 because i like the tone but it's like. 0,01% more townie than random.
takotsubo syndrome - i feel like voting someone then plain unvoting because hurr durr reaction test is not very likely to come from scum? like scum would have some sorta bigger trajectory there. can be town for now.
val89 - my eyes glazed over 131 so into the scumbin you go
vp baltar - deadass no clue what to think here, ask me later
town (from towniest to least townie): fire, dwlee99, luke, gamma, gorilla, takotsubo, rnr, kovu, dunn, sircakez
void (no order): enchant, ladyld, vpb
scum (from scummiest to least scummy): marci, bell, meuh, val89, fey, lavar
cheers
oh shit, fire gonna bust yo ass for wasting this post though.In post 136, Datisi wrote:VOTE: marcistar
bell - scummy because he doesn't feel like he actually wants to be here
dunn - can be slight town for 50, feels nuanced *enough*
dwlee99 - lack of presence and the quickness of 118 is town.
enchant - dead null.
fey - i think slightly scummy because the convo with me felt more like posting for posting's sake but i am not married to this read
fireisredsir - town.
gammagooey - like both of the votes they've made. don't think they're trying to give off an impression that their posts are more useful than they are. slight town.
gorilla - townie for 92.
kovu - slightly townie for 81 because i don't expect scum!them to enter like that but we'll see how this progresses.
lady lambdadelta - null.
lavarmanos - slightly scummy maybe? my eyes are glazing over reading these posts. idk jury's still out.
lukewarm - mostly doesn't make my stomach turn so can be town for now. 101 is slightly sus but otherwise all ok.
marcistar - lol scum
meuh - 63 felt too tryhardy, the points on me in 79 feel off, and the "haha i am glad to be town!! and solving!!" is forced
rhyme and reason - 120 feels kinda townie idk why call it vibes. i wanna see mena freak out that i'm townreading his slot for nonsense ok.
sircakez - slightly SLIGHTLY townie for 13 because i like the tone but it's like. 0,01% more townie than random.
takotsubo syndrome - i feel like voting someone then plain unvoting because hurr durr reaction test is not very likely to come from scum? like scum would have some sorta bigger trajectory there. can be town for now.
val89 - my eyes glazed over 131 so into the scumbin you go
vp baltar - deadass no clue what to think here, ask me later
town (from towniest to least townie): fire, dwlee99, luke, gamma, gorilla, takotsubo, rnr, kovu, dunn, sircakez
void (no order): enchant, ladyld, vpb
scum (from scummiest to least scummy): marci, bell, meuh, val89, fey, lavar
cheers
ugh, this post and the previous lengthy response to Datisi feel weirdly pure and naive to me. Thonking.In post 158, marcistar wrote:Alot of the posts you've been making i feel like are very nonwelcoming for responses I feel like you dont *actually* care about what I say, i feel like you're just being agressive to me even though im trying my best to read you... I dont really think you asking me questions is trying to make me see the light of things... why arent you trying to point out proof of why i have to be wrong instead?In post 151, Datisi wrote:you mean like when i asked you to explain how did you come around to something being definitely a scum thing for me based on nothing but your speculations about my personality? or like when i asked whether you are actually genuinely serious on scumreading me for voting a person fire also voted? when i tried to engage with you on why you were dismissing other people sarcastically when your points weren't clear? and you didn't bother to respond to any of that and instead went straight to attacking my reads? none of that happened?In post 148, marcistar wrote:hes not really trying to make me see the light of things
You cant deny "is this a joke" is a nonwelcoming thing... how was i meant to respond to that? It obviously made me feel like my line of thinking is not good in your eyes, so to me it just looks like u were trying to agressivly make me shut up..
i know im not really good at explaining things but it doesnt really look like youve wanted to help me at all..
When did I ever dismiss anyone sacrastically, and when did you try to talk to me about it? I don't remember it.
This post feels weirdly self-conscious and concerned as marci starts to take some heat and can't really explain her reads.In post 163, Kovu wrote:Yall talk way too much lol and they're giant posts... I told myself I was tryharding, and only giving 125 solid posts, but like, I can't stand reading all of them, ok um
So first off marci.
Even making the read I was debating if I wanted to townlean that slot, then was like "ehh we'll go for it" cause like, it's not like the reads aren't gonna change, anyways, I hated that post marci had like right before I entered, and it was followed by bad ones, like, I don't get why 106 was made to be giant, just to have a bunch of tiny ones after, like, a bunch of posts just responding to 1 post after another, and it's not even like a reply.. it's just you commenting on 119, 120, 121, 124, like, all seperate posts, so then why is 106 a wall? if for any reason other than this is some maf plan... idk, I'm not loving it
then you went back to going at datisi, cause that's like everyone's "go to" thing this game? you said this
> i know im not really good at explaining things but it doesnt really look like youve wanted to help me at all..
umm why would datisi want to help you??
your posts have just gone downhill, and you seem super focused on interacting in the past, like, everything is just responding to someone else, and some of those responses aren't great, and I see like no original thoughts, I really do not tr marci this game, like at all.
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Why am I bringing this up? well, I said I was town leaning marci, and I KNOW someone else here was calling marci town, I saw that catching up. like, no... nothing from marci's play seems too towny, and honestly, I'm thinking the largest red flag is like, the 1 wall of responding to posts... followed by a bunch of individual posts, like, that's maf realizing it'll take a while to hit 125 that way, and literally just going "I need more posts cause more posts = townier"
Why do you think I'm scummy again?In post 199, Dwlee99 wrote:First two people I just found independently scummy and the "last vote more scummy than 3-5" is kinda baseless beyond I feel like it
The basic logic, as I see it, is Marci voted datisi, got pushed as to why and then came up with post hoc reasoning that doesn't make a lot of logical sense.In post 202, gorilla wrote:The reasoning for marci being scum seems rather tenuous to me. Of course maybe I'm just too dumb to understand it. That happens a lot.
Your reasons don't actually make sense though....In post 213, marcistar wrote:my vote was like page one, i just explained my reasons later so whats so impossible of those being actual genuine reasons?
Andante thinks she is the center of all thought, which is maybe +town for herIn post 230, Dunnstral wrote:I mean, why do you think the mafia team is discussing your identity? How did you get to that?
hottest take is probably you could be scum here.In post 239, Datisi wrote:@baltar, give me your hottest take on this game, stat
Bro, you gotta stop with this shit every game. It feels like groundhog day every time I'm in a game with you. Here is a good tell for you to know instantly if I'm town or not: if you scum read me for nonsense like not caring hard enough about post restrictions and not conforming to your view of what is a valid way to read people or ask questions, I'm definitely town. E.V.E.R.Y.G.A.M.E.In post 241, fireisredsir wrote:idk it just kiiiinda sounds to me like you want to find me as town here and are trying to come up with a reason why. maybe im being not very generous here, idk. but im not really sure if the reason makes sense given previous reasons you've had
I actually don't think you've been shit posting exactly. I understand you have a lot going on, so I don't even care about how much hunting you're doing. It's more your self-consciousness at your shitposting that bothers me. You brought up the "I'm being awkward thing", which I didn't even think you were being that awkward. I'm sort of concerned about you because I think town!Datisi would have seen that wagon on you was all fluff and wouldn't really even be concerned about it.In post 242, Datisi wrote:i've done nothing but shitpost, this is colder than room temperatureIn post 240, VP Baltar wrote:hottest take is probably you could be scum here.
(though i'm assuming you framed it like that for SHOCK VALUE because you are responding to me, which like. meh. if you wanna jam about it ig)
ik you said gut but can you articulate which posts gave you the gutIn post 240, VP Baltar wrote:Second hottest (with absolute zero reasoning beyond GUT) is there's one scum in gorilla/gamma.
why dunnIn post 240, VP Baltar wrote:On the town side, my takes right now are that fire, Dunn and Val are all town.
Yeah, that is exactly my point. Like, you're wrong in every game with me. You call me town when I'm scum, and scum when I'm town. You can point to me being suss of you for bad reasons in past games, but the fact is that I arrive at the correct answer on you fairly quickly, and I've basically got your meta as "inability to read me accurately." You saying I should be suss of your bad reasoning when I know this (and frequently point out in other games that I know this) is a pretty dim view of my ability to learn from past games, yeah?In post 249, fireisredsir wrote:ive been wrong before.
Datisi wrote:i dunno. when you lay it out like that, it definitely doesn't look great but i'm not sure it's that damning. i like that you noticed it, though.
In post 182, VP Baltar wrote:UNVOTE:In post 99, Lukewarm wrote:I would like to point out that Marci voted Datisi in post 19 saying "I THINK HE COULD BE SCUM"
But the reason being presented once he became a real wagon was because he was ignoring votes - which distinctly cannot be the reason why she voted him originally in post 19, because Datisi had zero posts between Baltar casting the first vote on Datisi and Marci voting Datisi
VOTE: marci
Doing my daily catch up currently, but I think fire's exchange with marci probing their thought process and how it doesn't actually track (posts 84 and 86), as well as Marci's tepid response, combined with luke's point here are pretty solid reasons to think Marci could be scum who got a little too overconfident early.
That is not what that post is about. Are you even reading the game?In post 256, Bell wrote:The baltar whine about not being read correctly by red sure is a post of very low quality
That is why I said it is a hot take!In post 260, Datisi wrote:i find it funny how baltar says how i might be scum yet keeps sheeping me on my every vote
curious
Like all the scum or a scum?In post 273, gorilla wrote:Enchant
Fey
LavarManos
marcistar
Rhyme and Reason
SirCakez
takotsubo syndrome
VP Baltar
Scum in here, maybe?
I'll try to give this a read later. Most times I have seen Dunn scum, he hasn't seemed very comfortable or proactive D1, which is the vibe I'm getting this game. Admittedly, it's a very weak reason to meta read someone. Definitely not a lock read for me, but I had recently written that in my notes when datisi asked for takes, so I figured I should just disclose to give us something outside bell/marci/datisi to talk about generally.In post 306, Gammagooey wrote:As a sidenote, I disagree with your Dunn townread - I think I've seen like 3 people say they townread him and to me he looks the same as he did in the last game I was in where he was scum (Slaughter Hour), and I don't remember him being different in World of Tomorrow where we were both scum with him either (though my memory of that game isn't great tbf and I checked out a bit after I died). Like I haven't seen him as town in ages and it's still early game, but his vibe still seems like *he exists a little bit but never sticks his neck out and makes a big deal of anything relevant*.
In post 332, Kovu wrote:honestly I'd love to hear more on the Bell TRs, cause this isn't exactly mirroring the bell!town I'm familiar with, this bell isn't doing too much, but it's also like half this freaking table is doing nothing, soooo idk, someone called enchant town right? I'm also really curious on that.... cause enchant is one that still has 0 content
Why are you complaining so much this game? There was just a string of posts from gamma/bell/fire/meuh that you could have said something about. This feels performative.In post 334, Kovu wrote:In what world does enchant give MORE as scum? we barely even get anything from town!enchant as it is, like, the fact this game is
- no one doing anything
- making bad reads like this
I am genuinely just annoyed tbh, like can people DO SOMETHING??? like literally, half the table is doing nothing, has done nothing, I don't care that half yall are V/LA, you gave nothing when you were here, so am I just supposed to sit here for 3 more days just waiting for you to show up and say something? this is seriously annoying
You're fucking boring and not actually pushing anyone. You gave a pointless reads list on like page 4 that was based in nothing. Half the time, you spend complaining about people not posting.In post 368, Kovu wrote:wanna ellaborate more on how my posts are shit? I'm all ears.In post 356, VP Baltar wrote:I'd look at Kovu and Enchant next. Both are making nonsense posts that aren't pushing anyone.
Both are being independently useless and bemoaning in their own way how people posting in the game right now, which is primarily coalescing around a Bell yeet today, fmpov.In post 373, Meuh wrote:...and how do those reads relate to the prospect of Bell flipping scum?
In post 323, Bell wrote:Meuh seems town to me.
Fire seems town to me.
Marci seems likely town to me, but I'm uncomfortable saying that when Lukewarm has a ping there. Then again, not listening to Lukewarm has been A+ the last 2 games lol.
Dwlee, I'm not sure they embarrass themselves by thinking the Marci/Bell wagon has scum in it as scum, it's fairly risky and gives them heat later that they don't really need.
Datisi, is just....Meh this game. They feel plain. But I don't know what to make of it.
Tbh, beyond a few sparks of slight creativity Baltar feels the same as last game. They got mad, but all I got from it was a brain dead vote on me, it was probably the worst vote this game, but hard to tell if it's just a character trait or not given they're relatively new to me.
I roughly agree with the universe aligning with Kovu, they're just as odd as usual. I dunno know that automatically makes them town but it might.
I actually think heart syndrome sounds vaguely town but they're sort of a none presence so it's hard to know for sure.
That's all I got so far.
This isn't antispew btw, in case you were wondering.
No real stances taken here, lots of fence sittingIn post 324, Bell wrote:Dunnstrall feels very dunnstral this game.
I don't really agree with Val reads, they haven't really passed the bar yet.
Gamma's fine...Ish one ping here or there.
Already talked about Fey. One scum ping. I might actually have an alt guess that is accurate for once. But it doesn't help. Since they're kinda lackadaisical as either alignment.
Rhyme and reason's posts are bad. But it's hard to tell with their hard commit to posting gimmick.
LLD is V/LA until Tuesday.
Wants literally anyone but Bell to be the yeet.In post 390, Val89 wrote:Still skimming, but is anyone else getting the feeling from the last couple of pages that Kovu really wants someone to scumread me for a lack of activity, and is getting frustrated noone is biting?
Wtf does this mean? Are you calling kovu scum? Val town?In post 392, Bell wrote:No. Because there are plenty of other miseliminations in the sea for scum to go for?
I'm saying if Bell flips scum, it makes Kovu look worse. Like, I explicitly said that. That's not world building, it's trying to read the game state (and maybe kick a little sand to see what stirs up).In post 397, gorilla wrote:I mean, you are correct in that she has openly stated she doesn't want to elim Bell today. That's not really a secret.In post 391, VP Baltar wrote:Wants literally anyone but Bell to be the yeet.In post 390, Val89 wrote:Still skimming, but is anyone else getting the feeling from the last couple of pages that Kovu really wants someone to scumread me for a lack of activity, and is getting frustrated noone is biting?
The question follows: are you postulating that they are scum together?
Because that seems like such an over the top surface-level sort of worldbuilding that means you're either putting no thought into the game at all or are scum.
Don't think you ever answered this either gorilla. If I missed it, pls quote.In post 282, VP Baltar wrote:Like all the scum or a scum?In post 273, gorilla wrote:Enchant
Fey
LavarManos
marcistar
Rhyme and Reason
SirCakez
takotsubo syndrome
VP Baltar
Scum in here, maybe?
I think you are wall paper to the extreme this game. you're not really taking stances. Most reads you've given seemed couched in "it could be this, but it could also be that!"In post 401, Bell wrote:Why do you want me dead again?
I try not to make assumptions about people's meanings and would rather ask "dense" questions, as Bell put it, than to take an implication as a given.In post 408, gorilla wrote:Because I think it's self-evident what I meant with a little bit of critical thinking and given that you're bringing it back up to passive-aggressively attack me, I really don't care to answer. You either think you're being clever and trying to trap me or are being intentionally malicious, but in either case it's a waste of my time. Part of me says scum wouldn't be so inflammatory toward every single detractor this early on, but at this point I don't find this worth bothering with, so I'm going to do something else instead.In post 404, VP Baltar wrote:@gorilla - it's a pretty straightforward question. Why are you being obstinate?
This is wildly incorrect, ftr. Enchant town definitely tries in his own way and it is easy to see his mind working in his limited posts when he's town.In post 348, Bell wrote:I've never seen Enchant do a goddamn thing as either alignment.In post 346, Kovu wrote:what are your thoughts on Lava calling Enchant town cause "scum enchant would do more"In post 343, Bell wrote:Yes, please sheep your meta unto scum me.
Why are you townreading Kovu exactly? How much experience do you have with Andante?In post 414, Meuh wrote:I don't really get which way someone can look at the game and come out of it thinking Kovu's scum
In post 89, gorilla wrote:I think he seems unbothered by the votes which suggests he has no hidden guilt, which would be a reason to feel nervous.In post 86, marcistar wrote:I don't really see why it has to beIn post 84, fireisredsir wrote:and like ok fine you don't have the same meta read as i do thats not scummy, but... i also don't quite get it cause like... you're saying that you think he lacks confidence as town and that you think his mafia game is similar... so why is him not responding to votes more likely to come from scum than town? like whats the difference there that you expect to see?
it sounds like you're saying "you're like this as town" -> "i expect you to be like this as mafia too" -> ??? -> "so the way you acted makes you scum"
and i don't get what the missing step there isso, so, sohard for you to understand what im seeing... but okay!
datisi being town just seems more unlikely, i think theres more benefits for scum him to ignore the votes on him.. whats so hard to understand about it???
In post 415, gorilla wrote:Was a rough guess at a POE.In post 409, VP Baltar wrote:I try not to make assumptions about people's meanings and would rather ask "dense" questions, as Bell put it, than to take an implication as a given.In post 408, gorilla wrote:Because I think it's self-evident what I meant with a little bit of critical thinking and given that you're bringing it back up to passive-aggressively attack me, I really don't care to answer. You either think you're being clever and trying to trap me or are being intentionally malicious, but in either case it's a waste of my time. Part of me says scum wouldn't be so inflammatory toward every single detractor this early on, but at this point I don't find this worth bothering with, so I'm going to do something else instead.In post 404, VP Baltar wrote:@gorilla - it's a pretty straightforward question. Why are you being obstinate?
You've spent more energy not answering than simply stating clearly what you mean.
How many scum do you think are in that list? 1,2,3,4,5? This isn't passive aggressive, I actually want to know your meaning and thoughts. Christ.
Mostly assessing for internal logic. I hear you that it's hard to sort people D1. It mostly piqued my interest that your PoE was so narrow at this point. Certainly much more clearly defined than I feel like I'd be willing to commit to at this point. You also gave me shit for "world building" because I flagged what I saw as a potential associative in a scum!Bell world, so that obviously makes me curious on the nuances of how you arrived at your PoE.In post 434, gorilla wrote:I'm not sure what you're hoping to get out of asking me why someone is more nulltown than nullscum to me.
Tbf, I did have kovu as +town points earlier in the game, but this whining about inactivity on a holiday weekend is getting to me as an excuse to not do much/LAMIST.In post 473, gorilla wrote:And also frankly I disliked it because I don't think it's particularly hard to read Kovu as town here.
Wild. Tell me more?
Nothing has changed from what I stated before. Post hoc explanation of the datisi vote primarily.In post 499, LavarManos wrote:VPB, why is marci scummy?