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[Scorpious]

What is dawn and why does it exist?

Apparently its when real adults wake up...

I dont even think it is a real thing though.

[Scorpious]

Glad I kept my schedule open for this one.

[Scorpious]

@MM3 it is possible to know what we truly deserve.
For example, I deserve praise for finding and voting scum first thing day 1.

Well done.. Nice Job..

Good for you.

[Scorpious]

I'm detecting a mild case of sarcasm in this post.

Shhh, let them enjoy it..



You are a fantastic person lo.

[Scorpious]

I give up. Won't let me quote more than 10 times and it's too hard to separate it on mobile

Hmm, soo. I guess you are scum then..

VOTE: lil uzi vert

[Scorpious]

Small talk is how most games start, so I guess technically it's relevant.

Does connect 4 count as small talk? Seems pretty irelevant to me.. That being said. I'm ok with it..

[Scorpious]

Alban,Do you plan on making one vote and sticking with it when we get into the meat of the game?

[Scorpious]

Alban,

160 please..

[Scorpious]

VOTE: Scorpious
What a substantially insignificant question.

Thank you.. Makes absolutley no sense, but cool.

Why is it "substantially insignifficant?"

Of course your answer will include a substantially significant reason this post carries a vote, no?

[Scorpious]

I honestly think you are dumbfounded on how to handle me because you have like zero meta on me,and this is all just reaction test garbage..

[Scorpious]

Scorpious what is your view of the game right now?

My view is that you decided to ask me something because you saw my activity as lacking and you thought I would be an easy way to look active.

Sorry all, RL did it's thing. Will catch up today..

[Scorpious]

Alban's is mostly NAI but I would agree that self meta is done slightly more often by scum like maybe a 4:6 T:S usage of self meta based on anecdotal evidence.

That's an interesting observation. Why is scum (slightly) more invested in self-meta? Will they do that even in a game where a substantial number has played with them before? For example, I have played with at least 3 out of 10 players here.

I think scum would be more apt to self meta, gives an excuse for content and you can try to direct impressions about yourself. That being said. I have a town read on alban

[Scorpious]

That's fair.

I will not be joining your scum driven wagon.

[Scorpious]

Prodge..

Stupid adult life.. stupid job

[Scorpious]

Also consistency is not town-indicative

I strongly disagree. Inconsistencies are more often from scum manufacturing content. It's a lot easier to get caught up in yourself when you are posting filler garbage.

[Scorpious]

Replacing out has gotten terrible on this site :/..

"Cant get into it" is a crappy way of saying. "I didn't get a role I like".. These games suffer because if it..

[Scorpious]

I call BS on innocent. You have 7 years of site experience and expect us to believe you cant play effectively because

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? Do what you want,but don't insult us..

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~Ircher

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Im getting a warning for referencing a post?

Please tell me how I referenced other games not previously mentioned by the player themselves.

I used his join date and what he said as a basis for my post.. Please tell me how that violates the rules.. Thank you

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I standy by my words but retract the tone..

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VOTE: scorpios

I say we just let the vedith claim slide for now. It'll be a waste of time. Everyone seems fairly towny except Scorpios and Mario. Right now I feel like persuing Scorpios is a good idea.

Why?

[Scorpious]

VOTE: Scorpious

Wouldn't mind a wagon here.

Why?

[Scorpious]

Just so I feel better. I'm not a troll, just expressed my opinion.

My tact was lacking,and this isn't the forum to express thoughts like that,and in that tone. Sorry to the game.. Ill be worthy of being in it from here on out..

[Scorpious]

What do you think of the wagon on you scorpious?

It's a wagon that any experienced scum could make sound good.
Although, my opinion and tone can not be AI, but I'm sure there are some here that can twist it that way.

[Scorpious]

Scorpious is this still an rvs vote or did you scumread him and keep your vote there on purpose?

I remember you said the wagon on me was scum driven after lil uzi vert voted me, but I'm not sure who specifically you meant by it.

Left my rvs vote..

UNVOTE:

"Scum driven" was poor phrasing. Not meaning anyone inparticular was scum, just that the wagon seemed based on something ridiculous.. in this case the "no lynch" vote. To me,that isn't enough to prompt votes. Like the wagon on me I feel that is making mountains out of mole hills..

However, with all that being said. I do not mind votes being placed to provide some pressure. Especially on a D1. I just dont like when they are placed for reasons that seem stretched.

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Whenever anyone feels like it can they posts whether they believe vedith's claim? I'm forced to believe it because it's a day 1 claim when he had no pressure to claim and I'm town. So far the only argument against him is his meta.

My first instinct was to believe it. It is a super powerful role though. Especially in a smaller game like this.

What bothers me is that I can't understand why you would claim it so early.

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@Scorpious: It makes sense for Vedith to out here because having three clears is really powerful. It's a role that can't exist in this game though

Ok, I have never been involved with a game featuring a sensor. My info on it comes from the wiki and this game thus far.

Just so I am clear here. You do not believe it,and your reasoning is based on how the game would be set up, correct?

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How about Scorpios.
We can do a day where I pick the lynch, then you get to pick the lynch the next day?

You fake claim and have the gall to start lining up lynches?

VOTE: Vedith

[Scorpious]

what the fuck

you guys can't read joke posts

it's obviously a fake claim, that's what vedith does

Some of us don't have the luxury of having played many games with people. I am not going to go digging through past games to compare either..

So no. It's not an "obvious fake claim"

[Scorpious]

Here, will try this tonight

[Scorpious]

I'd also loosely followed the game before I replaced IO- again, one of the reasons I came in was beacuse I knew IO was obvious town and I wasn't in the mood for a scum game atm lol

This looks so fake..

[Scorpious]

I'm sorry if I'm coming off as annoying .. I'm just really jittery right now XD

No its not..

I prefer the questions, helps me get a foothold on the game..

[Scorpious]

I've been trying as of late to not vote as much in games, mostly because it's actually developed as a scumtell that I don't change votes when I am scum and I want to eliminate that weakness in my game, and also because it makes townies for some reason scumread me for switching votes? even though it should be the opposites lmao and not just for me either

Some juicy self-meta here... mmm, delicious

[Scorpious]

Scorpious, give me your read on me right now.

Leaning scum. Your posts seem calculated and well thought upon. Not in content,but in how they will be perceived.

[Scorpious]

Disgusting. You've pointed out two posts of mine out of 30 that I've made, and the two posts are the ones that can be construyed as typically scummy that actually aren't scummy, like self meta and pointing out that IO was obvious town. Comment on the rest of my posts, or make some advanacement of the game. This is the second time you've done it and it's starting to fucking annoy me

Damn, Homie.. chill....

Why are you so concerned about which posts I comment on? Do you think I should focus on something more mundane that you might have said?

Why did you post that nonsense about kinda following the game and wanted to replace into an "obvious" town slot? What purpose other than planting your town flag did it serve?

Lets say you were wrong. What then? How would you react to having to play scum which is something you plainly did not want according to you?

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Just re-reading d1.

Alban, what was the purpose of 214?

Could you also explain to me why you go from not reading carcalilly as scum in 281,and promising reads,and not saying anything again until 281,then 390 where you are actually probing for reads and reasons.

It's not actually until 2 rl days later did you actually provide your reads.

Do you think a scum would gain any advantage to having extra time to get a feel for how others are reading the game?

[Scorpious]

Alban, how do you view Llama currently?

Who would you rather lynch between them and awesome?

[Scorpious]

What a manipulative asshole. All you did from start of d2 till now is bitch about me with Mulch. Which is why I am talking about you point by point. And no, I am defending. It's called demolishing the strawmen you have created.

So how have you advanced the gamestate?

I'm null on you, but you are very stuck on "advancing the gamestate..

I know it may seem obvious to some,buy I would like to hear it from you, Why is it so important?

And how does Alban's anger read to you?

[Scorpious]

Mulch,

Can you see my issue here?

I re-read your self meta,and I must say. Your play is entirely different from scum you. Do you see my dilemma here in trying to formulate a solid read on you?

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Alban, how do you view Llama currently?

Who would you rather lynch between them and awesome?

Scorpious I would love a reads list and also still am waiting for the answer to which questions of mine you felt I was overly preocupied to how I looked

Read lists are for scum

[Scorpious]

Like to go into WhyMafia's meta, check his games as town. He can provide them. They are a near carbon copy

On the real,

I dont

ever

look at meta.. Too easy to fake,and I am not observant enough to take anything useful from it.

100 honest. It's one of the reasons I gave up on MS a couple years back.. 23 player game and 80% of it was talk about meta. I think it kills the spirit of the game.

[Scorpious]

Right now its a toss up between you,Alban and mm4

[Scorpious]

Interesting you asked for no elaboration on my Alban read, no?

Is it because you like that wagon?

[Scorpious]

Scorpious PLEASE respond to me

If you can be patient. I will..

Just got home from adulting.. wanna have a good double S,then I'll don the smoking jacket,and provide..

[Scorpious]

What tbe actual fuck, bro?

[Scorpious]

VOTE: Scorpious

Sigh.. et tu brute?

All that nonsense,and you circle back to voting me..

Dude, i have a life.. check the sig

[Scorpious]

Yeah
I've re-read Alban's ISO
Definitely getting cold feet. If you're reading this, sorry for the tunnel Alban, but I was 99% sure you were scum, and the OMGUS didn't help ;p
Re-read Awesome's ISO, I suppose I'll go on that if we don't find a suitable lynch

IMO
Steel and Llama are pretty likely town
Mulch likely as well, but I hesitate to put him in above bracket because there's a few things that bothered me. He shouldn't be lynched anytime soon though.
Everyone else goes here
Awesome

If this isn't scum, tell me what is?
The winds changed direction after I left, and so did whymafia's tune.

I feel inclined to agree..

Are you staying?

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VOTE: Alban

I dont like replacing/not replacing being used as a tactic. Also why are you staying now, because people backed off?

The push,and retraction from Whymaf seems fake also.. I would support that lynch to today.

[Scorpious]

1) I'm not unvoting you until you respond to EVERYTHING that I've asked you to that you refuse to give reasons for

Go for it. Ill answer anything you would like to condense,and ask

I dont have time to be assed with reading the Mulch show..Especially over the weekend.

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As long as ur alive I'm 100% not being nightkilled lmao

This is something scum would say 1000000000%

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You are borderline spamming the game, yet your votes are such trash.

You just dont add up.. I dont see why a townie would act like you are..

Btw, mashing all that crap together is not what I told you to do.
New Challenge: You have 200 words to summarize your questions of me. You might have to pick and choose now. If you exceed the 200 word barrier, I reserve the right to ignore it..

Go!

[Scorpious]

List them here

[Scorpious]

Blah blah blah,"respond to more of my posts..

Pretty much all that was until this:

My Vedith vote reason was in the post. I dont ilike when lynches are lined up.

Your entire game seems to have a purpose, not just the posts o mentioned,again,asking me to aknowledge more of your finger diarreah.

I dont do read lists..

More asking for acknowledgment.. sensing a theme here. You like attention

I like awesome's reasoning and tone.

Thats about it.. now drop it..

[Scorpious]

And yes, I agree with you regarding Scorpius being scum. Lol I probs look like an idiot changing my mind so much, but lynchpool is between scorp, awesome, and alban

Why do you agree?

[Scorpious]

"scum benefit from reads lists - im not making one"

Hidden meaning: I'm not scum. It's basically subtly shouting that he is town.

There is no hidden meaning to anything I say. I don't like reads lists. I think they can be picked apart by good scum. And in my experience in mafia (about 10 games here and about 10 on another non-mafia site) they are often posted

by

scum as an easy form of content.

Any more clarification needed?

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UNVOTE: Alban

[Scorpious]

Hi Mulch..

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VOTE: Scorpius

Lol, reasons?

[Scorpious]

Steel, you changed your mind on me 3 times? With no discussion?

What prompted your change?

[Scorpious]

I think putting someone on L-1 should warrent at least something.

[Scorpious]

I'll claim on intent, not looking to if I don't have to.

[Scorpious]

Honestly, I was trying to give whymaf the benefit of the doubt considering their RL issues,and considering the time we had left. As I said. I am suspicious of them. The naked vote perpetuates that somewhat.

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Post 142 is tonally awkward and seems like someone trying to get town cred. However, his repetition on getting Alban to respond was good, but not necessarily enough to save himself. Then the fiasco with the replace out: it seems that he's angry that someone potentially more active/someone to catch on to him is going to be replacing in. I don't see why as town, someone would mind a replace out. It's not like the game progressed so that someone couldn't catch up, and it always provides a new voice to get opinions from. The Vedith vote makes him look bad as well, as it saves his scum buddy who was beginning to pick up votes.
Post 1229 is really bad. He's going with the person more voted, but then also says he'll go me. This is prime fence-sitting. He also doesn't defend others from fence-sitting, even though he did himself, hopefully to make people ignore him. Especially considering in post 1076 he had Alban, MM4, and Mulch as scum. Then he shades Steel. His posts seem to be OMGUS'y as well, and indignant. He hasn't really pursued his scum reads. He has shaded almost every player alive, yet he has only casted two votes, and it's pretty obvious he's not like the type of player who casts his vote once in a phase. He doesn't seem to be aggressively pushing anyone, just happy when the game is just floating around and really indignant when he gets voted himself. Like his responses have the feel of someone who's cornered in.
I am convinced this is scum.

This is so forced,its unreal..

VOTE: whymafia

[Scorpious]

We're not lynching Mulch

I'm not thinking I want to lynch Mulch

[Scorpious]

@Scorpious: Can you do me a favor and summarize your understanding of why people are suspecting you? Like, someone voting you has to be town; why do you think they're voting you?

Because people always do. I pick out little things seemingly at random that I question,people say it reads scummy because I am not outlining my thought process. Sometimes I go into detail but making strong cases on people just based on ligic,is sadly not my strong point.

that being said,If there is an inconsistency ,I am good at finding it.. I think my wagon has the remaining scum/s on board. I am thinking there is only one scum left because I feel I would have been hammered.

[Scorpious]

Scorp is still more likely town than scum but needs to claim here so we can figure out what needs to be done. Sooner rather than later would be great.

I will after intent has been posted. If any

[Scorpious]

^^^ I think Llama is posting intent there.

Are you sure?

[Scorpious]

I am 1-shot weak doc.

I get one heal,and I die if I heal maf.

[Scorpious]

I didn't heal anyone last night.

[Scorpious]

I didnt know who was mafia,and getting myself killed trying to heal one is pretty stupid and not helpful.

[Scorpious]

I didnt know who was mafia,and getting myself killed trying to heal one is pretty stupid and not helpful.

You didn't have one solid lock town read?

Llaama is town

[Scorpious]

Why didn't you protect them then?

I didnt know that until today, I am also very confident that Alban is town.

[Scorpious]

My scums atm are

Whymaf and you

Pedit-nothing worth risking my own life over

[Scorpious]

VOTE: NO LYNCH [\V]

[Scorpious]

VOTE: no lynch

[Scorpious]

Mm4, do you plan on giving any reasoning to any of your reads?

[Scorpious]

VOTE: scorpious

I did what I was told to do..

Idk what you want from me?

Are you going to provide the reason you are voting me?

[Scorpious]

I would have killed awesomeusername. That doesn't really matter though.

What would be your reasoning? Your kill would have failed.. You would know that it was going to fail also.

[Scorpious]

not if ur scum

He would know I'm not scum..

[Scorpious]

If everyone claims VT its whymaf or mulch for me

[Scorpious]

VOTE: whymafia

Would also support a Mulch lynch.

[Scorpious]

UNVOTE: whymafia

VOTE: alban


Why lie in mass claim?

[Scorpious]

Thats L-1