And that doesn’t make any sense to you, why exactly?In post 1258, Ramcius wrote:DrewVa vent even further and said scumslip was that I didn't used "typical" as in "it's not my typical towngame"In post 1256, Thanos wrote:Well, I don't buy that anyone made a slip of that specific nature ("this isn't my towngame") as scum; if you can back that up it'll lend some amount of credibility but as far as my judgment of the legitimacy of the slip itself goes, it doesn't look like one. Also, this is a very weak push.In post 1252, DrewVa wrote:Yes but I would but then have to dig through every game I’ve ever played in, to do that. You either believe me or you don’t. It’s really that simple.
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Look, I don’t know if it’s an actual scumslip but I have seen slips like this many times in previous games I’ve played. If I knew an easy way to dig them up I would. I have a really good memory of these things but it would like take me longer than the ultimate course of this game, to look them up. But the alleged “slip”, is just one reason I am suspicious of Ram. It’s also the bad pushes, that haven’t made much sense to me. He said Karmelon “slipped”, iirc but I couldn’t find any such slip.In post 1259, Xtoxm wrote:
I mean if you want people to believe you on that bringing evidence is a lot more convincing. I'm inclined to agree with Thanos (on the original point).In post 1252, DrewVa wrote:
Yes but I would but then have to dig through every game I’ve ever played in, to do that. You either believe me or you don’t. It’s really that simple.In post 1250, Thanos wrote:
The current subject is the legitimacy of the alleged "scumslip".In post 1246, DrewVa wrote:At worst, I’m not wrong. At best, it’s NAI. Because I have seen it happen, more often than not.
What you're saying in the quoted can be applied to anything anyone said.
(Assuming by "it" you refer to slips like this)
If you have seen slips highly similar to this one, can you quote them?
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Here, i'll go first...Evidence of me digging through my game history in previous games to back up my argument that I was witnessing scum indicative behavior. And, um, me doing it right now to back up this argument? that i'm making.
Exhibit 1
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It’s okay Auro, we both know you have no clue how to read me.In post 1260, Thanos wrote:
I did read that.In post 1258, Ramcius wrote:DrewVa vent even further and said scumslip was that I didn't used "typical" as in "it's not my typical towngame"
DrewVa's asking you for your defense against TLK when it's so easy to read your ISO and find 1127 and 1218 makes her push seem lazy, and the lack of willingness to back her claim of seeing similar scumslips is bothersome.
The feeble push here with that serious tone feels a bit scum-motivated to me *shrug*
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It’s not for me because it’s easier for ME to make sense of them, APART from TLK’s posts. It’s obviously up to you though. *shrug*In post 1290, Ramcius wrote:
it would be easier to me, if you just find my answer to all TLK accusations, it's in one postIn post 1284, DrewVa wrote:
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@Something_Smart, who are you voting for, in your ACTUAL confessional?In post 1292, Xtoxm wrote:
I'm going to have to wade in here. If your clear use of vote tags should be disregarded as a joke, at what point do you draw the line between assuming a vote is a joke and a vote is real? The most sensible course of action is to take literal votes at face value, and you told us that you're voting yourself. If you don't want that in the artificial VC, go ahead and change it.In post 1282, Something_Smart wrote:TLK. I have a question. I made that self-vote very early on as self-admittedly half a joke egopost and the other half a reaction test. I also said that I understand that's not how real votes were placed. When you put your votecounts together, why did you not even ask if I had actually voted myself in my confessional before writing my vote there?-
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Okay, fair enough. I didn’t take that into account. However, for native English speakers, what I said, has been demonstrated to be correct. more often than not.In post 1294, Ramcius wrote:
i will answer this one - i didn't used "typical" or any other similar word, because Cheeky didn't used it in their question. Now you would say it doesn't make sense, but english isn't my first language, so when i have answer question, i look for what i was asked. I often forget some things like "the" and such, english grammar is a bit different from my native, so adding extra details, when they wasn't included in question simply doesn't come to my mind. Cheeky said towngame, so i say towngame, on top of that it's easier to understand each other, when you use same wordingIn post 1287, DrewVa wrote:
And that doesn’t make any sense to you, why exactly?In post 1258, Ramcius wrote:
DrewVa vent even further and said scumslip was that I didn't used "typical" as in "it's not my typical towngame"In post 1256, Thanos wrote:
Well, I don't buy that anyone made a slip of that specific nature ("this isn't my towngame") as scum; if you can back that up it'll lend some amount of credibility but as far as my judgment of the legitimacy of the slip itself goes, it doesn't look like one. Also, this is a very weak push.In post 1252, DrewVa wrote:Yes but I would but then have to dig through every game I’ve ever played in, to do that. You either believe me or you don’t. It’s really that simple.
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I honestly don’t understand. either yours or Alonzo’s pushes this game. And you accusing Karmelon of scumslipping, when I didn’t believe he had. you’re agressive response to RCE from what read to me as an entirely NAI statement. But perhas, I misunderstood why your scumread on TLK would be affected by him being the counterwagon. It didn’t make any sense to me at the time but I should have asked you to explain your reasoning for it, rather then just assume.-
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If we somehow wind up with an entirely shocking lynch, we’ll know that someone - most likely scum. has obviously been lying with their votes.In post 1296, The Last Knight wrote:
I took a template and copied it, to be honest, and your name was right there at the top. I did think about taking your vote off but it also seemed like an obvious enough joke. I figured I could leave it there and change it later if/when you decided to go public. Just a sillier unknown.In post 1282, Something_Smart wrote:TLK. I have a question. I made that self-vote very early on as self-admittedly half a joke egopost and the other half a reaction test. I also said that I understand that's not how real votes were placed. When you put your votecounts together, why did you not even ask if I had actually voted myself in my confessional before writing my vote there?
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We’re hated? I thought that was just Alonzo. Can someone tell me, why he’s town here? Like, I understand he has this troll meta but I don’t necessarily see why that should be an excuse to townread him here.In post 1303, Nero Cain wrote:Someone is going to have to explain the Drewva and TLK hate. I asked Elsa earlier but they ignored me.-
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I am not scum here. Some of my reads may be possibly wrong but that doesn’t make me scum.In post 1273, Ramcius wrote:
I think he's scum and his buddies DrewVa and Gamma are trying save his sorry ass, is that enough?In post 1272, Elsa Jay wrote:How do you know you aren't the dead weight here then?
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Yes, Elsa is a he.In post 1310, Nero Cain wrote:Is Elsa the he here b/c Nancy is a girl, guy.-
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In post 1305, Ramcius wrote:
I will say one last time - i didn't called TLK scum for counterwagon, i was asked about him, I said I disliked his early pushed and that I dislike how I become his counterwagon from nowhere, I didn't voted him either, so I appreciate, if people stop spreading this false info about me trying lynch TLK or calling him scum for being his counterwagonIn post 1299, DrewVa wrote: Okay, fair enough. I didn’t take that into account. However, for native English speakers, what I said, has been demonstrated to be correct. more often than not.
I honestly don’t understand. either yours or Alonzo’s pushes this game. And you accusing Karmelon of scumslipping, when I didn’t believe he had. you’re agressive response to RCE from what read to me as an entirely NAI statement. But perhas, I misunderstood why your scumread on TLK would be affected by him being the counterwagon. It didn’t make any sense to me at the time but I should have asked you to explain your reasoning for it, rather then just assume.
Also, I have very aggressive playstyle and my comment to RCE was quite peaceful, Gamma and Nero can vouch that i can be really aggressive and pushy, that's NAI thing to me
So tell me, how you trust TLK so easily, when you were torn between voting him and me, also, I want remind that I literally told you to keep your vote on me, when you was considering jump on his wagon again
Lastly, your opinion on Gamma? He says he have no confidence in reading me anymore (never saw my scumplay), yet comes with really weak reason to vote meIn post 1127, Ramcius wrote:Yes, i don't like, when people make conclusion purely from speculations without any basis, why that's wrong?
What i contradict? That my playstyle wasn't my usual town at that time? I guess you know better my townplay than I
Cheeky wasn't talking to me, so i had to ask. But i was speaking with Elsa way before that, how that's a contradiction?
I don't even comment on RCE quote
I have no clue what are you talking, only PL i wanted was Elsa, not you, i never expressed intend to vote you, what PL we even talking? Also, have you seen me trying PL someone as a scum to say it was a lie?
Only thing that i said was that i dislike how people suddenly got interested in me, when your wagon grew, i. e. i'm becoming your counterwagon
I’m legit confused now. Either I am correctly reading you or we have a REAL misunderstanding in our communication styles?In post 1047, Ramcius wrote:
He already voted to end day, so he have no more powerIn post 1046, DrewVa wrote:
Okay, something we actually do agree on.In post 1045, Ramcius wrote:Alonzo is a troll, i stopped pay attention to him long ago
Him having the power to end the day, is concerning though.
What’s you read on TLK?
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That makes absolutely no sense.In post 1307, Ramcius wrote:Alonzo isn't town, but there's no reason to scumread him either-
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Dave was? I must have missed it. I’m starting to question my read on Ram. I think Alonzo is scummier.In post 1308, Nero Cain wrote:I don't think you are hated, I just like Dave and Ram scum reading you and I guess Alonzo?-
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Agreed. He wanted to lynch me for giving him an FOS for his extremely suspicious end the day vote.In post 1309, Xtoxm wrote:
i don't see any indication of town. he's either playing in a anti-town way or scum openly pushing a scum agendaIn post 1304, DrewVa wrote:
We’re hated? I thought that was just Alonzo. Can someone tell me, why he’s town here? Like, I understand he has this troll meta but I don’t necessarily see why that should be an excuse to townread him here.In post 1303, Nero Cain wrote:Someone is going to have to explain the Drewva and TLK hate. I asked Elsa earlier but they ignored me.
I think I feel better about this vote. for now.
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In post 1315, DrewVa wrote:
That makes absolutely no sense.In post 1307, Ramcius wrote:Alonzo isn't town, but there's no reason to scumread him either
I recall a post by Boon saying this is singleball and that there’s no SK.In post 1309, Xtoxm wrote:
i don't see any indication of town. he's either playing in a anti-town way or scum openly pushing a scum agendaIn post 1304, DrewVa wrote:
We’re hated? I thought that was just Alonzo. Can someone tell me, why he’s town here? Like, I understand he has this troll meta but I don’t necessarily see why that should be an excuse to townread him here.In post 1303, Nero Cain wrote:Someone is going to have to explain the Drewva and TLK hate. I asked Elsa earlier but they ignored me.
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In post 397, Boonskiies wrote:Technically, SK doesn’t count as being Multiball anywhere on site. However, I advertised the game implying it was Single Ball, and generally if I’m going to straight up confirm it’s not Multiball, I’m not going to put a SK in the game.-
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Not town/anti-town cannot ever be 3P in this game.In post 1321, DrewVa wrote:In post 397, Boonskiies wrote:Technically, SK doesn’t count as being Multiball anywhere on site. However, I advertised the game implying it was Single Ball, and generally if I’m going to straight up confirm it’s not Multiball, I’m not going to put a SK in the game.-
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In post 1326, Cheeky Dancer wrote:
Upon an ISO, I also tr him. But because of his vc tracking and interactions from him look like sorting.In post 1124, Almost Chara wrote:i'm also townreading TLK here. especially with the context of his mafia experience.
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@TLK thanks for tracking the vc btw. It's become frustrating to solve without frequent updates, because I want to work off vca too.
What does the 2nd sentence mean though?
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Upon an ISO, I also tr him. But because of his vc tracking and interactions from him look like sorting.In post 1124, Almost Chara wrote:i'm also townreading TLK here. especially with the context of his mafia experience.
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@TLK thanks for tracking the vc btw. It's become frustrating to solve without frequent updates, because I want to work off vca too.
What does the 2nd sentence mean though?
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In order to teach the ways of Forum Mafia to Mister Boon's friend, clearly the best course of action is to lynch him day 1 as a lesson in what NOT to do here.In post 37, Boonskiies wrote:In post 36, The Last Knight wrote:/in dis shitFeel free to give this guy a lot of crap in game. He’s my noob friend. (He’s pretty good at mafia, just never played forum mafia.-
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Which is?In post 1328, Cheeky Dancer wrote:In post 1145, Karmeleon wrote:Checked Thanos' ISO. Should I be worried when only one head is posting?
I think it's only been auro too. I have experience with lames and she is somewhat difficult to read, and has an odd playstyle. Problem for that head is I have them at null in here , and auro was also difficult to read in the newbie game we finished.In post 1147, Karmeleon wrote:Only Auro seems to be actually posting though, maybe not even Auro.
I still am null on alonzo but feel like he is more easily sorted later in the game.In post 1149, Alonzo wrote:
You'd be more believable if you came out and just said 'I'm having trouble sorting Alonzo'In post 1133, DrewVa wrote:If Ram flips red, I think people should take another look at you.There is a specific tell of his that has been so far, reliable.
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It’s not that hard to tell which head has been posting. Lamees can’t count apparently and doesn’t seem have a clue about the setup.In post 1328, Cheeky Dancer wrote:In post 1145, Karmeleon wrote:Checked Thanos' ISO. Should I be worried when only one head is posting?
I think it's only been auro too. I have experience with lames and she is somewhat difficult to read, and has an odd playstyle. Problem for that head is I have them at null in here , and auro was also difficult to read in the newbie game we finished.In post 1147, Karmeleon wrote:Only Auro seems to be actually posting though, maybe not even Auro.
I still am null on alonzo but feel like he is more easily sorted later in the game. There is a specific tell of his that has been so far, reliable.In post 1149, Alonzo wrote:
You'd be more believable if you came out and just said 'I'm having trouble sorting Alonzo'In post 1133, DrewVa wrote:If Ram flips red, I think people should take another look at you.
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Noted.In post 1327, Elsa Jay wrote:
My gender is Snow Queen, thank you very much.In post 1312, DrewVa wrote:
Yes, Elsa is a he.In post 1310, Nero Cain wrote:Is Elsa the he here b/c Nancy is a girl, guy.
In one game, I counterclaim a literal Daycop claim for shits and giggles as scum day 1.Cheeky Dancer wrote:
I am no longer opposed.In post 1102, Elsa Jay wrote:By the way, hypothetically, if I had a gun, who would be opposed if I shot Nero Cain?
Also, I disagree with outing your role so early. I think it would've been fine if you kept it secret because now scum has that info.
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In another, I claim Neutral Doctor with the ascetic modifier, later on saying I'm a 1 shot BP day 1. I was a neutral Hider.
In yet another game, I claim day 1 to be a Ninja Lawyer. I was a town ninja lawyer.
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Why does Nero have a strike though it?In post 1332, Cheeky Dancer wrote:
Yeah, after a catchup it's mostly been Auro .In post 1331, DrewVa wrote:
It’s not that hard to tell which head has been posting. Lamees can’t count apparently and doesn’t seem have a clue about the setup.In post 1328, Cheeky Dancer wrote:In post 1145, Karmeleon wrote:Checked Thanos' ISO. Should I be worried when only one head is posting?
I think it's only been auro too. I have experience with lames and she is somewhat difficult to read, and has an odd playstyle. Problem for that head is I have them at null in here , and auro was also difficult to read in the newbie game we finished.In post 1147, Karmeleon wrote:Only Auro seems to be actually posting though, maybe not even Auro.
I still am null on alonzo but feel like he is more easily sorted later in the game. There is a specific tell of his that has been so far, reliable.In post 1149, Alonzo wrote:
You'd be more believable if you came out and just said 'I'm having trouble sorting Alonzo'In post 1133, DrewVa wrote:If Ram flips red, I think people should take another look at you.
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Huh, ok - so a Kokichi #2.In post 1327, Elsa Jay wrote:In one game, I counterclaim a literal Daycop claim for shits and giggles as scum day 1.
In another, I claim Neutral Doctor with the ascetic modifier, later on saying I'm a 1 shot BP day 1. I was a neutral Hider.
In yet another game, I claim day 1 to be a Ninja Lawyer. I was a town ninja lawyer.
Claiming day 1 as any alignment seems to be my specialty.
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In post 1342, Alonzo wrote:In post 1317, DrewVa wrote:
Agreed. He wanted to lynch me for giving him an FOS for his extremely suspicious end the day vote.In post 1309, Xtoxm wrote:
i don't see any indication of town. he's either playing in a anti-town way or scum openly pushing a scum agendaIn post 1304, DrewVa wrote:
We’re hated? I thought that was just Alonzo. Can someone tell me, why he’s town here? Like, I understand he has this troll meta but I don’t necessarily see why that should be an excuse to townread him here.In post 1303, Nero Cain wrote:Someone is going to have to explain the Drewva and TLK hate. I asked Elsa earlier but they ignored me.
I think I feel better about this vote. for now.
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VOTE: Alonzo
Thanks for misquoting me. Yeah, definitely townlocking you now.In post 1317, DrewVa wrote:
Agreed. He wanted to lynch me for giving him an FOS for his extremely suspicious end the day vote.In post 1309, Xtoxm wrote:
i don't see any indication of town. he's either playing in a anti-town way or scum openly pushing a scum agendaIn post 1304, DrewVa wrote:
We’re hated? I thought that was just Alonzo. Can someone tell me, why he’s town here? Like, I understand he has this troll meta but I don’t necessarily see why that should be an excuse to townread him here.In post 1303, Nero Cain wrote:Someone is going to have to explain the Drewva and TLK hate. I asked Elsa earlier but they ignored me.
I think I feel better about this vote. for now.
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+1In post 1367, Almost Chara wrote:this is a big game, and i don't care too much about getting our scumreads lynched right away.
what i do care about is making sure my townreads don't get lynched, and i don't want TLK going down today. if we end now, that's pretty likely to happen. and even if town does get lynched, i'd rather see more people make a stand on whether or not they want that to happen so we can read it later.
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I can tell you that they frequently get wrongly scumread and I think that might possibly be the case here? \_0_/In post 1362, Almost Chara wrote:talking about how the game is going to die before it has, and that we should lynch for the sake of doing so instead of because you have someone who's scum, isn't a good look.
that's to Elsa and Alonzo.
Theta Alpine's ISO speaks for itself, to me and to Almost. if someone thinks they're town i'll listen.
and no, it has nothing to do with number of posts.
TLK, some players call mafia wolves interchangeably.
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They haven’t done a lot that it is townie, I’m null on them rn.-
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Okay, I honestly don’t have a clue who to vote for today.In post 1374, Alonzo wrote:
Yeah thats my bad, It wasn't meant as a FTFY, just raw sarcasm.In post 1371, DrewVa wrote:In post 1342, Alonzo wrote:In post 1317, DrewVa wrote:
Agreed. He wanted to lynch me for giving him an FOS for his extremely suspicious end the day vote.In post 1309, Xtoxm wrote:
i don't see any indication of town. he's either playing in a anti-town way or scum openly pushing a scum agendaIn post 1304, DrewVa wrote:
We’re hated? I thought that was just Alonzo. Can someone tell me, why he’s town here? Like, I understand he has this troll meta but I don’t necessarily see why that should be an excuse to townread him here.In post 1303, Nero Cain wrote:Someone is going to have to explain the Drewva and TLK hate. I asked Elsa earlier but they ignored me.
I think I feel better about this vote. for now.
UNVOTE:
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VOTE: Alonzo
Thanks for misquoting me. Yeah, definitely townlocking you now.In post 1317, DrewVa wrote:
Agreed. He wanted to lynch me for giving him an FOS for his extremely suspicious end the day vote.In post 1309, Xtoxm wrote:
i don't see any indication of town. he's either playing in a anti-town way or scum openly pushing a scum agendaIn post 1304, DrewVa wrote:
We’re hated? I thought that was just Alonzo. Can someone tell me, why he’s town here? Like, I understand he has this troll meta but I don’t necessarily see why that should be an excuse to townread him here.In post 1303, Nero Cain wrote:Someone is going to have to explain the Drewva and TLK hate. I asked Elsa earlier but they ignored me.
I think I feel better about this vote. for now.
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VOTE: Alonzo
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In post 1380, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
It depends on whether the main wagon flips red or green.In post 1379, Elsa Jay wrote:Yeah, I may or may not have changed my vote with the recent information. But hey, since I'm about to go to sleep...
The person with the most votes after the person lynched is the one who gets shot. Is that a decent deal?
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Nero, Karmeleon, AlmostChara, Xtoxm, Nev and Max, McQueen, Gamma, TLK, Elsa.In post 1377, Alonzo wrote:When I say Emperor Flippynips you say...
I think I’m currently townreading all of these slots.
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A combo. DVa townreads reads Karmeleon and Gamma (and I agree), I think she also agrees with me on AC. As far as I know. she doesn’t disagree with me on any of them. Well, she might have Elsa at nulltown. \_0_/In post 1389, RCEnigma wrote:I'm not caught up at all, getting kind of drowned out tbh. Can you explain the karmeleon read drewva? Also are those Hydra reads or Nancy reads?-
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Kind of null on him, I guess but I didn’t like his Nero push.In post 1390, RCEnigma wrote:Townreads are BEF, drewva, Elsa, Nero, nev, Alonzo, McQueen, almost Chara lightly. Fine shooting anyone else. Who all are currently townreading Profii?-
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I dunno, everytime, I scumread someone for being lynchbaity, they usually wind up flipping town. :/In post 1391, RCEnigma wrote:Still don't like TLK's VC it's busy work and I'm not a fan.-
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What do you think of Ram, Thanos and lurkers, who are AWOL?In post 1395, RCEnigma wrote:The pushes that claimed to vote tlk we're very apathetic or based on me vs him. Which is weak imo, as opposed to reading him on what he is doing. So idk I don't think he's lynchbaity. I didn't know he was a new player till you or Elsa quoted boonskies on it so that kind of changed my perspective on our early interactions but doesn't reconcile my issues with his later play.-
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Aiuro is just naturly scummy.In post 1397, RCEnigma wrote:Don't know if confessionals are quotable but I've been using mine to gather my thoughts and the lurkers was one of them. The chance scum is in there is pretty good but being so close to the holidays it's not going to be my day 1 push. After the holidays is another story. Ramcius is leaning town, I don't know how aggressive he is as scum though. Thanos is on the scummy side of null.-
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In post 1415, Thanos wrote:
Is DrewVa that readable? I have one completed scumgame with DVa but I think she's not at easy to read; I'll look up scumgames of the other head, any that come to mind?In post 1412, Cheeky Dancer wrote:I kinda townread this post as I remember thinking the same when I first did ISO skims like forever ago. Also don't think Hebi takes on Drewva as scum knowing they can obv town.
DrewVa's posts seem to contain a fair bit of fluff, and their push on Ramcius deserve some scumpoints.
I don't see a read on DrewVa in your ISO, what's your opinion of that slot?
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Heroes Wanted, Overkill 1 and Halloween Dance. I agree with the above but you’d be surprised how often scum still try to push me. and they always wind up regretting it, not that it stops them, though.In post 1419, RCEnigma wrote:Not sure on Nancy's scumgame, I think Dva can be crafty scum. Nancy does bleed town given the right conditions and agree with cheeky that Nancy is not a good target for scum to try and isolate.-
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I dunno, your partner accusing us of scumreading “everyone”.In post 1437, Thanos wrote:
Thanks for that. It's expected that my playstyle would be found scummy at least on a tonal basis, but I'm currently focusing more on the scumhunting part of it than looking like how town is expected to look.In post 1431, DrewVa wrote:Aiuro is just naturly scummy.
Is there anything my slot has done so far that you read as more scum motivated than town motivated, or anti-town?
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And you assuming we’re being scummy, rather than just wrong.
Also, you could be seen as being possibly lamist or tryharding?
At any rate, if you don’t get your partner to stop voting to “end the day”, I’m seriously considering policy lynching you, and this is coming from someone who is opposed to them on principle.
Lamees can’t vote for that, so please make her stop. It’s hella annoying.-
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Agreed. Rn, it’s just random and a random lynch, is almost always bad for town.In post 1451, Xtoxm wrote:
they didntIn post 1450, mcqueen wrote:I still have no plans to vote for that to happen, unless someone made an extraordinarily good point as to why I should.-
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Okay, when you say, “scumslip”, I should always read the word “not” in front. Good to know.
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Lolwut?In post 1452, Alonzo wrote:
Imagine a huge castle with a Santa hat wearing 'Knight' and a glamourous Blonde queen with 'some childhood baggage'. Around that castle is a huge moat.In post 1450, mcqueen wrote:unless someone made an extraordinarily good point as to why I should.
Now hear me out, If we don't fill the moat with Water... you have got yourself.... The greatest dirt racetrack ever.... Ideal for a racecar such as yourself! You could race round and round forever. Steer right to go left and all that.
So then Xt gets his castle and Wife, you get a place race, and I get to dig myself a gigantic hole. We all have a great day one.
We don't even even have to give Flippynips a thing....
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“Overwhelmed”?In post 1458, Alonzo wrote:I'm very underwhelmed with ENG in this one, and a littleoverwhelmedby Drew tell the truth.
Do you think troll! Alonzo =scum? If so, Proof plz.
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In post 1470, DrewVa wrote:I think we should lynch boonskies today
I have it on good authority he is either third party or vengeful
We can't go wrong here
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+1In post 1474, Elsa Jay wrote:Could we have an alternative lynch on Flavor Leaf?
I heard he’s a really slippery bugger.
1v1 between Boon and FL...GOLast edited by Boonskiies on Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:39 am, edited 1 time in total.-
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In post 1494, Ramcius wrote:Hm, we should have vote for end of day too and if we have let's say 2/3 of players to vote for it, we should end it.
VOTE: End day
Can anyone other then Alonzo, Flips’s replacement, Xtoxm, McQueen, please stop voting to end or not end the day? You don’t get a vote. If I can’t figure out, who I think is scummy by deadline, I might be down to policy lynch anyone other than these 4, who continue to vote for this.-
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I really dislike this post.In post 1495, Thanos wrote:
That's the game thoughIn post 1446, DrewVa wrote:And you assuming we’re being scummy, rather than just wrong.
Also, you could be seen as being possibly lamist or tryharding?LAMEESist.
Nah, it's cute, and harmless.At any rate, if you don’t get your partner to stop voting to “end the day”, I’m seriously considering policy lynching you, and this is coming from someone who is opposed to them on principle.
Lamees can’t vote for that, so please make her stop. It’s hella annoying.
You keep making more like these and I may vote you.-
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Hmmmm . . OOH, I agree with you, OTOH, he’s not hiding it. I disagree with him wrt THIS game but tbf, there have been games, where I would have preferred it - only because of too many players having tunnel vision. However, that does not seem to be happening here at all, so I think, everyone ought to be as transparent as possible about their votes.In post 1506, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Fucking ewIn post 1378, Xtoxm wrote:You know, I'm quite enjoying this anonymous mechanic. I'm able to vote who I want without getting any pushback from them. It's liberating.-
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This is why I townread you and not Thanos. Their reasons for alignment sorting, seem on the whole to be really surfacey. At first, I kind of townleaned them for it but now, it’s pinging me a bit.In post 1509, Gamma Emerald wrote:
While I don’t think it’s scummy busywork it’s certainly not a reason to townread TLK. In Mod is Mafia scum!mathblade kept up votecounts and got townread for that and bamboozled everyone. Scum can be pro-town. Not that I really care as I’m townreading TLK anywayIn post 1402, Thanos wrote:
You mean the VC of public in-thread "votes" he's keeping track of? I like it, I think it's pro-town at least in that it helps keep track of sentiments.In post 1391, RCEnigma wrote:Still don't like TLK's VC it's busy work and I'm not a fan.
I encourage the 'busywork', leantown there. Bad lynch.
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They’re not answering or addressing any of my concerns.In post 1514, Something_Smart wrote:What's wrong with it?-
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UNVOTE:In post 1517, Thanos wrote:
Yeah auro went for a bit of a stretch there. It definitely isn't cute.In post 1513, DrewVa wrote:
I really dislike this post.In post 1495, Thanos wrote:
That's the game thoughIn post 1446, DrewVa wrote:And you assuming we’re being scummy, rather than just wrong.
Also, you could be seen as being possibly lamist or tryharding?LAMEESist.
Nah, it's cute, and harmless.At any rate, if you don’t get your partner to stop voting to “end the day”, I’m seriously considering policy lynching you, and this is coming from someone who is opposed to them on principle.
Lamees can’t vote for that, so please make her stop. It’s hella annoying.
You keep making more like these and I may vote you.
But can anyone else see drewva is obv scum? Or is it just me.
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I’m voting Thanos, because A) I’m starting to dislike their surfacey reads.
B) their failure to adequately adress my very valid concerns.
C) I think their posting up to now, strikes me as lamisty and tryharding.
D) Lamees in particular, reads super scummy to me.
E) Their response to my suspicion of their bad response to me, was not to attempt to further clarify my concerns but to immediately call us, “obv scum”.
Earlier, Lamees falsely accused me of scumreading “ everybody”, which was bs shade, not to mention, a flat out lie.
When does town ever respond this way?
Town doesn’t dismiss your valid concerns by bs shading and calling you “obv scum”. They press you for explanations and ONLY if they dislike said explanation - for whatever reason - do they even consider scumreading you for it, at that point.
I will reconfirm with DVa, since she has more meta on Auro than I do but I’m also not getting particularly townie vibes from that slot. In contrast, TLK reads kind of genuine to me by comparison.
Busywork in general is NAI - it all depends on sincerity of of the thought processes and reads.-
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This type of thinking rarely comes from town. You just are calling for out lynch, rather than address the concerns mentioned in my post.In post 1522, Thanos wrote:I think a drewva lynch would benefit town more than any other lynch btw
You don’t even seem at all concerned if you mislynch. I OTOH, am actually trying to sort you but your refusal to respond to my concerns is troubling and you’re calling for my lynch instead of doing that is beyond scummy.
Contrast this with how Ram responded to my push on him earlier. He only though I might be scum, because he didn’t see me fhpov, trying to sort him. It was clearly a miscommunication in that case but Thanos OTOH,immediatelyleaps to that conclusion, when all I was trying to accomplish by expressing my concerns, was to obtain some sort of satisfactory response to them, which Thanos outright dismissed.-
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Why?In post 1526, Ramcius wrote:
I still think that you are scum, simply I need Gamma's and TLK heads firstIn post 1525, DrewVa wrote:
This type of thinking rarely comes from town. You just are calling for out lynch, rather than address the concerns mentioned in my post.In post 1522, Thanos wrote:I think a drewva lynch would benefit town more than any other lynch btw
You don’t even seem at all concerned if you mislynch. I OTOH, am actually trying to sort you but your refusal to respond to my concerns is troubling and you’re calling for my lynch instead of doing that is beyond scummy.
Contrast this with how Ram responded to my push on him earlier. He only though I might be scum, because he didn’t see me fhpov, trying to sort him. It was clearly a miscommunication in that case but Thanos OTOH,immediatelyleaps to that conclusion, when all I was trying to accomplish by expressing my concerns, was to obtain some sort of satisfactory response to them, which Thanos outright dismissed.
I’m not though. If I were scum here, I would have never unvoted you. Why would I, when your wagon is clearly viable? Scum usually only jumps off a wagon, when they perceive it as not viable. I still don’t townread you, for all of the i initial reasons I originally voted you but I liked your response to it. While your scumread on me is obviously incorrect, it doesn’t read scummy to me, if that makes any sense?-
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It’s a big red flag to me that you keep hard defending her scummy posting, rather than clarifying it.In post 1528, Thanos wrote:
A) Throwing a leantown for busywork is a surfacey read, but that's all I'm going to have on D1. The scumlean on you was more than surfacey, your push on Ramcius and your "IDGAF believe me or not but I ain't providing evidence to back myself up" attitude does read scum-motivated.In post 1524, DrewVa wrote:I’m voting Thanos, because A) I’m starting to dislike their surfacey reads.
B) their failure to adequately adress my very valid concerns.
C) I think their posting up to now, strikes me as lamisty and tryharding.
D) Lamees in particular, reads super scummy to me.
E) Their response to my suspicion of their bad response to me, was not to attempt to further clarify my concerns but to immediately call us, “obv scum”.
Earlier, Lamees falsely accused me of scumreading “ everybody”, which was bs shade, not to mention, a flat out lie.
When does town ever respond this way?
Town doesn’t dismiss your valid concerns by bs shading and calling you “obv scum”. They press you for explanations and ONLY if they dislike said explanation - for whatever reason - do they even consider scumreading you for it, at that point.
I will reconfirm with DVa, since she has more meta on Auro than I do but I’m also not getting particularly townie vibes from that slot. In contrast, TLK reads kind of genuine to me by comparison.
Busywork in general is NAI - it all depends on sincerity of of the thought processes and reads.
B) Your concerns included that we're being tryhard/LAMEEST, which is a silly attack -- again, without any substantiation on your part. Also, you have more than double the posts we do, hence the lulz.
C) Again, no substantiation, and lulz
D) Town!You usually check meta before lacing someone with a strong read like that; I see you've made zero effort at looking at Lamees' meta? Do show me how this isn't her town meta, and I'll accept your read there.
E) Eh, your "concerns" are damn weak, and the threat of policy lynching on something as simple as voting to end the day is petty.
You're talking about "good town play" as you view it, but also ignoring Lamees' meta, which is a red flag.
You know damn well, if I ever responded the way your hydra partner did to my post, callling you “obv scum”,for a perfectly reasonable post, you’d be calling for my head to. Don’t even try to insult my intelligence by pretending otherwise.-
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Fine but what does our slot have anything to do with either of them? Just because I’m townreading a slot you don’t, doesn’t make me linked with them. In fact, if you knew anything at all about my meta, you’d know that I never hard defend my buddies as scum. If a slot I’m hard defending ever flips scum, it’s A) I’m town and misread them. B) It’s multiball and I’m still clueless about their alignment. C) I’m actually a scum traitor and/or my survival in a game, literally depends on them endgaming iit.In post 1529, Ramcius wrote:
If either of Gamma or TLK flips town, I promise reconsider my read on youIn post 1527, DrewVa wrote:
Why?In post 1526, Ramcius wrote:
I still think that you are scum, simply I need Gamma's and TLK heads firstIn post 1525, DrewVa wrote:
This type of thinking rarely comes from town. You just are calling for out lynch, rather than address the concerns mentioned in my post.In post 1522, Thanos wrote:I think a drewva lynch would benefit town more than any other lynch btw
You don’t even seem at all concerned if you mislynch. I OTOH, am actually trying to sort you but your refusal to respond to my concerns is troubling and you’re calling for my lynch instead of doing that is beyond scummy.
Contrast this with how Ram responded to my push on him earlier. He only though I might be scum, because he didn’t see me fhpov, trying to sort him. It was clearly a miscommunication in that case but Thanos OTOH,immediatelyleaps to that conclusion, when all I was trying to accomplish by expressing my concerns, was to obtain some sort of satisfactory response to them, which Thanos outright dismissed.
I’m not though. If I were scum here, I would have never unvoted you. Why would I, when your wagon is clearly viable? Scum usually only jumps off a wagon, when they perceive it as not viable. I still don’t townread you, for all of the i initial reasons I originally voted you but I liked your response to it. While your scumread on me is obviously incorrect, it doesn’t read scummy to me, if that makes any sense?
Checkout Heroes Wanted, where I was groupscum or any of my towngames, if you don’t believe me. I never KNOWINGLY ever go to bat for scum, unless my life in a game depends on them surviving. Why? Because I obviously know that their hypothetical red flip damns me and I’d be following in their footsteps.
Other than the above reasons I mentioned, I only ever go out on a limb for townreads. I’m town here and not a scum traitor btw.-
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No, and it’s up to your slot to link me. It’s ludicrous for you to expect me to excuse her scummy behaviour and your shade on me is just more hypocritical bs.In post 1532, Thanos wrote:
She was really confident on you being scum even before your post. She does this all the time as town -- did you check her meta?In post 1531, DrewVa wrote:It’s a big red flag to me that you keep hard defending her scummy posting, rather than clarifying it.
You know damn well, if I ever responded the way your hydra partner did to my post, callling you “obv scum”,for a perfectly reasonable post, you’d be calling for my head to. Don’t even try to insult my intelligence by pretending otherwise.
Nancy responding the way Lamees did is scummy, but Lamees responding the way Lamees usually does isn't, is what I'm saying.
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Where is YOUR metacheck on me, huh? Don’t you dare continue to keep shading me with this hypocritical bs, until you actually back it up. IOW, when you practice what you preach. I think you’re either scum here or really bad at Mafia and you defending blatant scummy behaviour by deflecting it back on me, reads super scummy to me, especially when your shading me for reasons that equally apply to you.-
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these are lies because lamees is always scummyIn post 1532, Thanos wrote:Nancy responding the way Lamees did is scummy, but Lamees responding the way Lamees usually does isn't, is what I'm saying.
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so you saying anything lamees does is not scummy is a clear misrep and is scummy, auro
you know this
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