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Trying to case people in RVS? Scummy.In post 24, Hopkirk wrote:
You've got a lot of nerve just coming into the game making jokes instead of contributing anything. I'd give you a finger of suspicion, but that would make typing hard so I'm going to have to go with a vote instead. VOTE: Windows XPIn post 22, WindowsXP wrote:I suggest we use the term Uninstall. But perhaps I am just biased.-
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Before I post about Hopkirk,I'd like to ask them to please explain their push on me and what their intention was with it.I want full honesty, as well as the reason they were shading a few other slots.
alisae I think is town. I will link some posts that I feel display a town mindset(e are by no means locktown but if e stay on the path I may locktown em). E have have the highest impact on the game so far IMO:
Spoiler: Showing a desire to start solving early on by pushing people to explain things. I find this kind of questioning to lean someone town.
Spoiler: Applying this kind of pressure and drawing analysis from it is also towny to me.
Spoiler: genuine frustration at wanting people to be open about their intents
now grumpycat is a slot I've been watching and I have a bit of suspicion of them.
and their interactions with hop are......weird, even if they are friends. there's the theory that a scum team of hop/grumpy would be trying to force a mutual townread early on so that there is justification on day 3 to not push on eachother. A lot of grumpy's posts give me WIFOM vibes. At the very least it would be most plausible that Grumpy is attempting to pocket hopkirk if they are friends/ friendly with eachother.
Spoiler: hopkirk related posts
There's also that general air of "not really trying to solve and just fucking around" I get from GC. It is still early on and they can feel free to prove me wrong but so far I think they are scum trying to wifom.
Paladin gives town vibes
Ydrasse is still null
Ico hasn't even posted yet
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In post 186, Piergeiron the Paladinson wrote:
Interesting you would think this; I had the opposite impression.In post 184, WindowsXP wrote:At the very least it would be most plausible that Grumpy is attempting to pocket hopkirk if they are friends/ friendly with eachother.
Why do you say its the opposite way?In post 189, Piergeiron the Paladinson wrote:I mean if there is a pocketing attempt in your exchange with Hopkirk I don't think it is coming from you.
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About 20% serious. It would be interesting to pursue the validity of such a strategy sometime but I understand most will not go for it. Interesting you latched onto this post of mine. Are you an ego player by any chance?In post 194, Iconeum wrote:
exactly how serious are you with this suggestion? and what size is your neck?In post 127, WindowsXP wrote:also ive been toying with the idea of NLing until D3 while i was working.
Cons: we lose a ML
Pros: getting within 2 scum is easier
Overall the mechanic makes a 2 scum lylo much more dangerous for scum since by then one scum has been poed minimum.
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Ico, do you think there is at least one scum in GC/Hop trying to pocket the other?
To be honest, your recent spam of posts are not actually very helpful and just reacting to random things.
Can you offer some analysis within those 2 slots?
You seem to be disliking the pressure that Paladin is putting on Hopkirk, so perhaps can you elaborate on where you stand on Hop. Are you getting scumpings from Paladin because you think they are trying to LAMIST or because of their push on Hop?-
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In post 199, Iconeum wrote:
you should start explaining what exactly you townread about paladinIn post 184, WindowsXP wrote:Paladin gives town vibes
I never said I townread them. But the evidence does point towards them having a town mindset in the way they are approaching this game and attempting to solve. I currently have a semi-confident scumread between GC/Hop and I do not see either of them as likely partners with Paladin so there is also more reason for me to believe Paladin being scum there.
I do hope you end up responding to my other analysis rather than pick and choose things you are saying you strongly disagree with, since you seem to be disagreeing a lot with me right now.-
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I am sorry to hear that VOTE: IcoIn post 209, Iconeum wrote:
If you think you can leash me to only talk about 2 slots, you are sadly mistakenIn post 206, WindowsXP wrote:Ico, do you think there is at least one scum in GC/Hop trying to pocket the other?
To be honest, your recent spam of posts are not actually very helpful and just reacting to random things.
Can you offer some analysis within those 2 slots?
You seem to be disliking the pressure that Paladin is putting on Hopkirk, so perhaps can you elaborate on where you stand on Hop. Are you getting scumpings from Paladin because you think they are trying to LAMIST or because of their push on Hop?
i've done my catchup, and i've commented on everything i wanted to comment on
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I asked you to explain yourself Ico and added a vote to get you to do so, and your reaction is to OMGUS?
Either you are extremely childish or you are scum trying to deflect from taking more concise stances.
And having skimmed your recent games I am leaning towards the latter.
It looks to me you are acting in a way to make something stick instead of analyzing already existing content. i.e. you give some reply to a few posts and then end up trying to shade a random slot like its still RVS.
Also as a side note, please do not use gross ableist language. I am uncomfortable with it and its grossly inappropriate to use in game.I will not be asking you directly again.-
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In post 222, Iconeum wrote:
there is so much wrong with this i don't even know where to start butIn post 214, WindowsXP wrote:I am sorry to hear that VOTE: IcoI see nothing but scum motivation to dodge what I have asked of you.
-why would you be 'sorry to hear' something you think comes from scum? This is very LAMIST, and pingy.
-i'm not dodging anything, i've directly confronted you with my answer
-I REALLY wanna know exactxly what scum motivation you see
How is it LAMIST/pingy?
You dodged by refusing to answer and this is on top of you straight up cherrypicking what you respond to and responding to things that I find strange to have responded to. Like a scum player who is looking to create a case on town player perhaps.
The scum motivation lies in your shade on paladin and subsequent refusal to make a concise statement about GC/Kirk on top of your sudden spam.-
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I believe there is no productive conversation to be had with someone who refuses to engage in good faith.
I took a look at WHAT you exactly decided to respond to - on top of your refusal when prodded to - to respond to something I thought was important, as scummy.
As for the RVS comment? - It's not RVS. And you are lying that you are truly treating it as RVS from your shade on Paladin. It was page 8 when you got on. Just because YOU were late doesn't mean we waited to end RVS with you. So stop playing entitled.
You are more excited to respond to things that are non game related. As a recent example you recently just latched onto my claim that I read a few of your recent games. I did actually. Mainly for alignment + early game play to see patterns.
Overall, if you are town stop playing like you are entitled to being townread because it's going to end in you getting policied. And I am not interested in any AtE. That shit does not work on me.-
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Hi I am working all this weekend. (Vl/a please till monday)
Got it! -D
I am not happy that Ico was hammered so soon, but they were a good PL regardless the way they were playing entitled. I think there is still scum within hopkirk/GC.
Also as for the games i "read". I must come clean and say I did lie and was using games that we both played in and was trying to apply meta. At the very least i wanted to get them to make some concrete stances that werent rooted in some 1v1.
I expected to likely die(no dead thread pm ): ) so i didn't bother using my free time i had between work shifts to draft anything up, but I will look through everyone at some point whenever i can. I'd like to play today a lot slower as we only used 1 day on d1.
There's soemthing else i wanted to share but i will out it when the time is right.-
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Oh. Lol. Hop died. That might change some dynamics. Through my skim i think dong's tone change and their defensiveness at their own vote(self conscious) scumpings me.
I will say that it is my fault for not announcing L-2.
If I had to guess though, since kirk died , someone doesnt like lots of posts in their game. I think that angle is a good one to examine.
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Are you saying its scummy? If so, why?In post 423, Grumpy Cat wrote:Looks like an attempted townslip and a very poor conclusion to draw from the nightkill
I want to keep this alt mostly secret so I won't be sharing sorry.In post 424, Grumpy Cat wrote:Who were you from Ico's previous games, XP?-
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433 - because I put my thoughts on the table whenever I can. Especially since Ico was shading me pretty hard I was a bit annoyed and wanted to explain myself.
434- I'm working 15 hour days all this weekend sorry!
435 - I disagree. But you are right it is likely not the reason. I just was trying to throw ideas out. A little brainstorming. I would have thought scum would keep hop around considering people were fosing them
442 - it was 70% serious, it definitely gave me scum pings when they did that. It would have been especially scummy however had they kept this fos based on that. Some of you may find it a bit funny but these things can be scum indicative of someone trying to build fake cases on people.-
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I have a big thinking react regarding your slot. I have a little meta on you so I'm looking forward to your thoughts so we can get into some analysis.In post 451, Ydrasse wrote:i haven't forgotten that i was gonna post here but i got caught up doing other things so expect something from me tomorrow where i have the will to sit down and try to process stuff-
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Oh sorry, i meant that I should have noticed it was L-2, I was careless and didnt check before i voted since it was early game and i was the first serious vote.
As for the hopkirk thing, I nearly never check any posts before posting my daystart thoughts.
I had some things to say and i did so without the info of the nightkill. Its a gimmick i admit.
And its been at least 3. I don't wanna alt slip this early-
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Nice tryIn post 459, Alisae wrote:
I would like some meta to verify thisIn post 455, WindowsXP wrote:As for the hopkirk thing, I nearly never check any posts before posting my daystart thoughts.-
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Clearly i didnt read it carefully then.In post 466, Alisae wrote:
the flip is in the pmIn post 463, WindowsXP wrote:Either you believe me or you don't. It is my meta and I stand by it. I check my pms, see if im dead, then post in thread wrt thoughts about hammer especially if i wasnt around for it.
Stop derailing the thread with this pointless inquiry.-
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Me saying I didn't read the kill before posting in thread.
Ive already asked and have not received an answer.
And I will say this: i would have already sacced today without giving partner tells if i was scum.
I can explain later why.
But this is not my scum play here. I play mechs. I play optimal.
I read whats optimal and do it.
Scum!windows doesn't try on d2 after a lolhammer.-
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There is enough plausible deniability that if you're going to try to use the lolhammer as an argument you are going to get no real conclusions.
Also your claim about what you'd do with Alisae as scum while simultaneously not really sorting em is odd to me Dong. How do you read the rest of eir D1 minus the lolhammer? Was it towny or scummy? Let's say that, theoretically, Ico was not at L-1 on D1 when alisae voted, and the game continued. Was their move there scum?
Let's answer some real questions about motives and analysis.
Where did I ever reach a final conclusion? I was offering a case against Ico and I was letting them refute it. Let's talk about that. Do you think my push was scum motivated? Why? What was suspicious about my posts?
Tell me what exactly struck you as scummy.
Also, important, do you think Ydrasse's d1 is town to you? They voted Ico too and did not declare L-1, and are a passive voice this game. I'm wondering what you may think about that slot.-
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It was supposed to be semisecret but yes. I'm trying a MUCH LESS spammy playstyle on an alt thats focused on group response / keeping stuff within 1 post and only posting small posts when it is a direct question to a post.
I know its pretty obvious that's me for people who know my typing style but hey!
Also I'm gonna reveal the strategy I want to employ for today on Sunday, or if I feel its good sooner. That should be enough time to have discussion that isn't tainted.-
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It's interesting Dong came in, said they were going to read the new posts, said they were up, and then dipped and haven't added anything since. Would be nice to know why ;D
Anyways I need to go to sleep.
If anyone with more free time than me would like to give me things they'd like me to give opinions on within this game I'd really appreciate it because rereading takes a ton of effort and I can only do it on days where I don't work double shifts.
and re: having an alt: people do know who I am at this point, no need to flex your tiny ego (:
re: posting games: do your own work I am too busy. I already mentioned 1 game u can go look at it yourself.-
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506 - tell me how you "accidentally" press the n key in that convenient location when typing windows. The w and s key are on the left side of the keyboard. I absolutely thought it was intentional and the fake coverup made me more agry. So get out out of here with that. Not sure why you latching onto this kinda shit as "scummy". Wanna elaborate on that? What else I've done pinged you as scummy?
Flopz do you normally only hyperfocus on meta argumenrs? I see you've done so a lot on this page.-
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Dong - the reason I said that was because I was pushing Ico to do things that are more alignment indicative. Do you think because someone presents a case on someone and pressures them they are immediately calling for their head? Look at what O said right before i went to sleep the night ico got hammered. I said i was keeping my vote there as pressure essentially. People like ico try to cruise by by playing entitled and I don't like that kind of style since it removes alignment indication.
Grumpy cat- idk how many times i need to bring this up in games but my style changes based on who's at the table and what part of my gameplay im working on. Here i was trying to be less aggro and let discussion breathe. Do you think its scummy? Why?
As for fluff /meming being scummy - it depends on context. If done to obfuscate/dodge I'd say its scummy. I dont think its ~independently scummy~ if anything.
Best way to scumhunt in a mountainous is to look at who/what is being pushed and when. This is how I've seen effective town players do so.
Do you not see that I am pushing Ico to do more however with my vote? And when they get voted their reaction is to act entitled instead of answer.-
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You know what I'm actually really annoyed at this point. Im revealing what I want as a strategy. I want to get hanged today. I want a guaranteed ML. In exchange, you guys vote who I choose. Theres a 2/5 chance of hitting right tomorrow into a full win. Its easier for scum to obfuscate when they get elimed earlier. I am a firm believer of scum teams being much more obvious over time.
Finding 1 scum out of 6 should not be difficult.
As scum i would have done 0 analysis/interacting today and just pushed ppl to get me to L-1 so i can self hammer for 5 way and no real way to determine whoever my partner may be and go back to step 1.
Right now I'm looking at Paladin/Flopz/Dong as my scumpool. It's tentative for now but I can explain later.-
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Flopz
1. This argument sucks and you're wrong so if you wanna argue in good faith i suggest you drop it because what are you trying to say? That im partners with ico and its scum theater? Get outta here
2 - i didn't realize taking a solid stance on pushes was scummy sorry m8 I'll lrn2play
3 - just give this up. I do everything i can as town to fake a townslip if i can. In the last mini normal i never bothered checking other games for how many scum there were. Its a common thing more experienced town players do from epicmafia. Trying to do things that are townslips are not scum indicative for me. I dont care how you wanna frame it.-
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Ok is it scummy to lie about that? Is that always scum to you? Or are you inexperienced?In post 593, Donempire wrote:Im stupid. Windows flips scum here all the time. Its impossible they didnt see grumpys unvote. It was to desperately play into getting some towncred for hammering themselves as scum wouldnt do that or something
My lynch today is %100 windows but i will iso ydrasse too.
If you're so sure about it and youre town feel free to self sac and get me tomorrow if youre oh so sure (:
If I'm such obvious scum then you should have 0 issue with that.-
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If you think the scumpings were from the meming then idk what to tell you.In post 594, Grumpy Cat wrote:That's what I was thinking. Like, they're pretending to be town that's quickhammering themselves while giving some final advice. Tempted to leave Wandows around to lunch tomorrow; my scumread there is still very strong.
Reason I think the Hop/I scumpings from the memeing thing is scum-indicative, is because Koba isn't a player who scumreads that sort of stuff; they do it themselves at times. When I saw Wandows doing it, I just assumed they fit into a certain archetype of (serious) player and it didn't mean much, but knowing now it's Koba means those reads are very likely to be fake.
It was the fake tone i could detect. I ignore meme posts. You get me today or never. I give you those 2 options. If you put me in lylo i never get hanged unless town desperately wants to lose.-
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Is doing fake slips scummy?In post 602, Grumpy Cat wrote:I mean, we probably shouldn't be flipping anyone until Paladin comes back.
You're so difficult to read when you keep claiming to do fake slips as town. That doesn't help people read you at all-
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"Self vote is always scummy" - ok then vote me kid. "Always gamethrowing" in case you haven't noticed there's a special mechanic on d3 and I want to utilize it. But how strange to have this conflicting statement in the same sentence.
"5 year old join date" - lol this isn't the only mafia site in existence kid. And regardless, having more completed games =/= more skill. I have seen the most terrible players be the ones that were around for longer than 5 years. So not sure why you feel the need to shade me based on that. You're obvscum whos mad they got caught and are gonna lose to a mechanic bc a town wants them bad enough that they'll self sacrifice to win the game that way.-
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"You're toxic !!!" Cries the kid who just finished trying to berate another player for having joined more recently than them and is utilizing a setups mechanic in a logical way.
And yes, town lies about shit to get townread. How many completed games do you have in mafia? Surely the number is under 2000-
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