Heroes Wanted! (Game Over)

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Nosferatu replaces Chickadee.

Hi Nosferatu!

Sup yo?

sup
VOTE: sando

i was on like page 15 so im gonna continue with that

reads were like

{}
{}
{human, chick, molla}
{nico,brass,sakura,ircher,gamma,hebi,kokichi,mylo,nancy,rando,shiro,worst,titus,tora,muffin}
{sando, drixx, tora, cerb}
{}
{}

just so you know

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also there was pre-game scumchat

like i have no idea how that was an actual argument

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i woke up this morning and thought

"well golly it would just make my day if ircher just took a whole page to ask headass questions"

and thank my stars that wish came true

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I'm definitely not repeating that day 1 again.

And so what im doing in this game was born.

Okay. So this, along with the "deliberately ignoring thing", ping me pretty hard. Normally, when someone looks at a post I made and chooses to ignore all of it except one part, they just do so without the snarky comment included. This generally results in them getting pushed more about the part they ignored by myself, and anyone else who was interested in the point(s) I raised.

I see deliberately calling out the fact that she ignored the rest of the post as an attempt to preempt said pushing. I was debating whether to ask if that bit of flavor in Sakuras post was characteristic of her posting style, or if it had a good chance of being preemptive scum deflection, but this last post seems to support my position . Here Sakura is again, preempting questioning about her reason for playing the way she is, by posting a link and a joke. She already said it was because of a game in the past, nobody asked for a link to the game or anything, but here she is ready to justify what she's doing before the conversation gets too deep into whether her behavior is anti-town or not.

I love that sakura is being pushed for this and find your reasoning extremely villagery from you, and I was villa reading your posting before anyway so this is cool. I don't know if I agree with this, though. I don't think sakura is necessarily doing what she is doing as an excuse to not work on the game, but rather because she is the kind of individualistic millennial generation type of player. I'm sure she'll start posting reads as the game progresses regardless of her rand.

I want to take a moment to just say I hate this post

there are other posts im commenting on while i read through

but i want to just pause for a minute and say that this post in particular just rustles my jimmies in a way that quite frankly unsettles me deeply.

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FUCK my dude there is a multi quote button

seriously

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People scumreading muffin is pretty lul

Por que?

Porque HS no sabe que el esta hablando sobre.

(You can use google translate if you don't know what that means.)

i can tell you used google translate to make this post lmfao

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Yo, I'm not reading two pages of posts from one person, good luck to my replacement.

SIGGED

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Votecount 1.6

Katsuki (2):

zMuffinMan, Gamma Emerald

Wtf? Why the hell is Muffin’s vote still on Katsuki after insisting he’s not scum. This makes no sense whatsoever.

that's really all you needed to quote

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ok, I'm done reading

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i voted myself
then i voted cupcake because i wanted scum to kill him
then i voted myloninja because cupcake is probably scum and i wanted scum to kill myloninja instead
then i voted myself because i read rule 7
then i looked at the player list and realised i didn't give a shit who got voted leader
then i voted myloninja again for shits and giggles

i am completely and utterly astonished that myloninja didnt end up getting voted leader, he was clearly the most qualified candidate

Vote: Cupcake

99% sure he rolled scum this game. i may say this every game but this time i'm not joking

please help me lynch him before he is able to post

I am claiming that I voted for Kokichi.

I have no problem with people claiming them.

@mod: Shush, don't go quoting your own ambiguous posts at me. We have no reason to assume that abilities won't be available AGAIN in a future phase, so clarification was necessary.

I see absolutely no benefit to the rush of having people express their choices ASAP.

Confirmation of daychat(which we should have assumed anyways means that assuming town doesn't lie, by claiming in advance of the person "most likely" to have been selected by scum(though only marginally more likely than others, as I said before) we give scum the ability to coordinate their claims and say whatever "fits" the situation as revealed by town. If they find out that without their set of votes, their selected teammate would not have won, they can deliberately distance by only having the requisite number of them claim to have voted for that individual. This is, of course, assuming FA is actually scum, or at the least a choice scum decided to make for whatever reasons.

Also, people claiming who they voted for without saying why are being bad and should feel bad for giving out the information most useful to scum, without sharing the information that's useful to town.

VOTE: Cerberus

i thought we were gonna wait for FA, but might as well, i voted muffin coz he had epic reads on my last game with him.

also muffins > cupcakes

ill post the whole thing but just for fun ill let you guys know when i technically replaced in

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you'll see those later its ok

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Spoiler: page 1-5

i voted myself
then i voted cupcake because i wanted scum to kill him
then i voted myloninja because cupcake is probably scum and i wanted scum to kill myloninja instead
then i voted myself because i read rule 7
then i looked at the player list and realised i didn't give a shit who got voted leader
then i voted myloninja again for shits and giggles

i am completely and utterly astonished that myloninja didnt end up getting voted leader, he was clearly the most qualified candidate

Vote: Cupcake

99% sure he rolled scum this game. i may say this every game but this time i'm not joking

please help me lynch him before he is able to post

every game

I am claiming that I voted for Kokichi.

I have no problem with people claiming them.

is this just gonna be one of those games

sidenote: i love how everyone reads cerb's post about claiming your vote, and then complete disregarding it

@mod: Shush, don't go quoting your own ambiguous posts at me. We have no reason to assume that abilities won't be available AGAIN in a future phase, so clarification was necessary.

I see absolutely no benefit to the rush of having people express their choices ASAP.

Confirmation of daychat(which we should have assumed anyways means that assuming town doesn't lie, by claiming in advance of the person "most likely" to have been selected by scum(though only marginally more likely than others, as I said before) we give scum the ability to coordinate their claims and say whatever "fits" the situation as revealed by town. If they find out that without their set of votes, their selected teammate would not have won, they can deliberately distance by only having the requisite number of them claim to have voted for that individual. This is, of course, assuming FA is actually scum, or at the least a choice scum decided to make for whatever reasons.

Also, people claiming who they voted for without saying why are being bad and should feel bad for giving out the information most useful to scum, without sharing the information that's useful to town.

VOTE: Cerberus

i thought we were gonna wait for FA, but might as well, i voted muffin coz he had epic reads on my last game with him.

also muffins > cupcakes

One thing before anyone else reveals:

Should we force all the FA voters to reveal themselves first? Then they have zero info on how many they need to provide to make sure we can't see the lie.

I voted Cerberus for what should be self evident reasons.

Gut reaction to FA being chosen is that we have a WIFOM loop: either FA is scum or scum picked FA because FA was a safe pick to pile votes onto.

Sakura Hana gets first serious FOS from me.

pretty sure scum (at least if theyre smart) just voted whoever they thought they might vote as town and the majority of votes just happened to land on FA

i doubt they piled onto FA

i doubt they aren't going to truthfully claim who they voted

any smart scum would be playing the long game; whoever gets voted D1 doesn't matter (except insofar as you want to get into the league of extraordinary gentlemuffins). sac the D1 leader position (if scum gets voted, it's good for them, but if not, it doesn't matter), manipulate reads in such a way that you can vote scum on later nights is the long term plan for any smart scum team. there was obviously going to be a mass claim of votes; better to just be truthful about it D1 and manipulate shit later...

Congrats you get my first vote. I usually hang on to this a while longer.

VOTE: zMuffinMan


While we don't know wether or not scum got to talk pregame during voting, your post here reads like you know they didn't.

I like the people who voted muffin becuase their posts are a little weird and especially the second one can look like TMI, and I think the votes are pure reactions to things these people (katsuki, bbmolla and chickadee) find scummy, so I'm fine townreading all of them as much as it's possible this early.

I think the better practice would be to claim who you voted for, the reason and your favorite superhero.

Like me, I like Green Lantern, specifically, the one played by Ryan Reynolds. That movie is like Citizen Kane, but better.

Votecount 1.1

Leader: Frozen Angel

zMuffinMan (3):

BBmolla, Katsuki, Chickadee

Cerberus v666 (1):

Sakura Hana

Katsuki (1):

zMuffinMan

123456789 (0):

BBmolla (0):

brassherald (0):

Chickadee (0):

Drixx (0):

Gamma Emerald (0):

hebichan (0):

Human Sequencer (0):

Kokichi Oma (0):

Myloninja13 (0):

Nancy Drew 39 (0):

Nico Robin (0):

randomidget (0):

Sakura Hana (0):

Sando (0):

Shiro (0):

the worst (0):

Titus (0):

Toranaga (0):

Not Voting (18):

Everyone Else

With

23

players, it takes

12

to lynch.
The day ends in (expired on 2018-07-15 18:00:00).

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my favorite superhero is goku.

Dragon Ball Z is also like Citizen Kane, but better.

I guess I'm just saying I did not like Citizen Kane that much.

lol, you are. I don't love citizen kane and find it funny it's considered the best movie ever or whatever it is when there's much better film noir and even much better orson welles movies.

rvs and fence-sittery

"Because it's RVS and because of this other real reason" - wat?

I voted Cerberus for what should be self evident reasons.

Gut reaction to FA being chosen is that we have a WIFOM loop: either FA is scum or scum picked FA because FA was a safe pick to pile votes onto.

Sakura Hana gets first serious FOS from me.

And your gut would be wrong.

I voted Frozen.
VOTE: 123456789

you should explain your reasons in clear manner so everyone knows what your mindset really is instead of playing mysteriously like your read is so relevant it should be left for later because of reasons. IDK what fence-sittery means and rather have it spelled it out for me and the thread.

I understand what fence-sitting means, basically lack of commitment to reads.

But you can't say:
This is an RVS vote oh and by the way you're also fence-sitting which is scummy.

RVS is random, it does not pair well with a legitimate read.

RVS isn’t really random past the first vote...

FA I think for now you're someone who flat out shouldn't post their votee.

I can see the point of forcing you to generate a list of people to vote-claim in though. But that might be busy work and understandably tedious, dunno if anyone agrees with me on this point.

Random notes: FA and Cerb not scum together if either is scum.

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WHAT THE FUCK


that actually just submitted for no reason. i wasnt done yet

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Spoiler: page 1-5

i voted myself
then i voted cupcake because i wanted scum to kill him
then i voted myloninja because cupcake is probably scum and i wanted scum to kill myloninja instead
then i voted myself because i read rule 7
then i looked at the player list and realised i didn't give a shit who got voted leader
then i voted myloninja again for shits and giggles

i am completely and utterly astonished that myloninja didnt end up getting voted leader, he was clearly the most qualified candidate

Vote: Cupcake

99% sure he rolled scum this game. i may say this every game but this time i'm not joking

please help me lynch him before he is able to post

every game

I am claiming that I voted for Kokichi.

I have no problem with people claiming them.

is this just gonna be one of those games

sidenote: i love how everyone reads cerb's post about claiming your vote, and then complete disregarding it

Also, people claiming who they voted for without saying why are being bad and should feel bad for giving out the information most useful to scum, without sharing the information that's useful to town.

if everyone is vanilla rn why tf would it not come down to anything but personal preference lmao

VOTE: Cerberus

oh dear

i thought we were gonna wait for FA, but might as well, i voted muffin coz he had epic reads on my last game with him.

also muffins > cupcakes

Some people like cupcakes better. I, for one care less for them!"
Arrogantly twisting the sterile canvas snoot
Of a fully charged icing-anointment utensil
He poots forth a quarter-ounce green rosette
Near- ha, ha
Let's try that again-
He poots forth a quarter-ounce green rosette
Near the summit of a dense-but-radiant muffin
Of his own design
Later he says:
"Some people, some people like cupcakes exclusively
While I myself I say there is naught
Nor ought there be nothing so exalted
On the face of God's grey earth
As that Prince of foods... the Muffin!

One thing before anyone else reveals:

Should we force all the FA voters to reveal themselves first? Then they have zero info on how many they need to provide to make sure we can't see the lie.

we've just proved how good people are at following instructions

I voted Cerberus for what should be self evident reasons.
Sakura Hana gets first serious FOS from me.

this ostensibly makes no sense

While we don't know wether or not scum got to talk pregame during voting, your post here reads like you know they didn't.

im like 200% sure scum had a pregame chat

I like the people who voted muffin becuase their posts are a little weird and especially the second one can look like TMI, and I think the votes are pure reactions to things these people (katsuki, bbmolla and chickadee) find scummy, so I'm fine townreading all of them

as much as it's possible this early.

except for kats i agree

I think the better practice would be to claim who you voted for, the reason and your favorite superhero.

Like me, I like Green Lantern, specifically, the one played by Ryan Reynolds. That movie is like Citizen Kane, but better.

this better be leading up to the sickest crumb of all time

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i used to crush on shadowcat when i was like 11
shit, not that long ago...

my favorite superhero is goku.

Dragon Ball Z is also like Citizen Kane, but better.

I guess I'm just saying I did not like Citizen Kane that much.

lol, you are. I don't love citizen kane and find it funny it's considered the best movie ever or whatever it is when there's much better film noir and even much better orson welles movies.

i know, what's so important about a sled biography?

rvs and fence-sittery

"Because it's RVS and because of this other real reason" - wat?

you're trying my dude

I voted Cerberus for what should be self evident reasons.

Gut reaction to FA being chosen is that we have a WIFOM loop: either FA is scum or scum picked FA because FA was a safe pick to pile votes onto.

Sakura Hana gets first serious FOS from me.

And your gut would be wrong.

I voted Frozen.
VOTE: 123456789

are you saying you as scum voted frozen for reasons other than her being a safe pick lmfao?

RVS isn’t really random past the first vote...

alright can we fucking not

So Toronaga town, Human scum, got it....
VOTE: Human

this makes no fucking sense to me

FA I think for now you're someone who flat out shouldn't post their votee.

I can see the point of forcing you to generate a list of people to vote-claim in though. But that might be busy work and understandably tedious, dunno if anyone agrees with me on this point.

there's no point to this post

Random notes: FA and Cerb not scum together if either is scum.

this seems completely random

{}
{human, chick, molla}
{nico,cerb666,brass,sakura,ircher,gamma,hebi,kokichi,mylo,nancy,rando,shiro,worst,titus,tora,muffin}
{sando, drixx, tora}
{}
human's whole interaction with tora seemed legit and tora came off like he was tryharding in an awkward way.
sando just makes unnecessary posts
drixx just made a post i didnt really like
chick and molla made that vote i dont remember that i liked

ok this is the actual finished page 1-5 catchup thing

note the use of multi posts, ircher

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Spoiler: 5-17

Dunno, but scum having day chat and not pregame chat seems rather silly to me.

literally this

this could be the one and only game ever run on MS where scum didn't have pregame chat

seems likely

elaborate why it is likely

i laughed so hard reading this

well i just think after thousands of games that have been run with pre-game chat, brian decided "you know what? pregame chat sucks and i hate scum and i'm not gonna let them have it" and so he didn't

it just makes sense

muffin's town just for this

i voted muffinman cuz he was doing a good job of leading town last game till somebody killed him

While we don't know wether or not scum got to talk pregame during voting, your post here reads like you know they didn't.

err, how?

VOTE: toranaga

pretty sure scum (at least if theyre smart) just voted whoever they thought they might vote as town and the majority of votes just happened to land on FA

If they have pre-game chat, they would have coordinated. Do you disagree? This comment seems to disagree with that sentiment.

this is a bit of a headass post. Why could they not have collectively decided not to pile on one person and vote randomly to some degree?

sando is towny

yeah

i must be living on some alternate reality

I can tell you that I'm like 95% sure that I had 2 more votes from the remaining playlist and that they would vote me regardless of alignment.

I can even see myself have upto 4 votes between the remaining playerlist.

Looking at this and the votes that are already claimed, it feels like that the scums were uncoordinated pregame or if they were coordinated they were not coordinated enough to bypass the votes on me (or they thought it's unnecessary)

one other theory is that they did pile up on me because they saw sign up thread and felt like I might have some votes so they just halped it happen to put me in spotlight but that feels kind of suboptimal. and they must be lieing about their votes if that's the case. or the people who would vote me regardless of alignment can be those scums.

In every game I’m in, I always go with Occams Razor. The simplest explanation always makes the most sense. I don’t think it makes a lot of sense for scum to lie about their votes. Why make things harder for themselves? I think we can WIFOM ourselves to oblivion about if scum are lying about their votes or not. What we ought to be doing instead, is what any good villa does: focusing on the

mindset

behind the vote. Did a player make their vote with town’s best interests in mind or not?

this is the most hurr durr post ive read all day

I can tell you that I'm like 95% sure that I had 2 more votes from the remaining playlist and that they would vote me regardless of alignment.

I can even see myself have upto 4 votes between the remaining playerlist.

Looking at this and the votes that are already claimed, it feels like that the scums were uncoordinated pregame or if they were coordinated they were not coordinated enough to bypass the votes on me (or they thought it's unnecessary)

one other theory is that they did pile up on me because they saw sign up thread and felt like I might have some votes so they just halped it happen to put me in spotlight but that feels kind of suboptimal. and they must be lieing about their votes if that's the case. or the people who would vote me regardless of alignment can be those scums.

In every game I’m in, I always go with Occams Razor. The simplest explanation always makes the most sense. I don’t think it makes a lot of sense for scum to lie about their votes. Why make things harder for themselves? I think we can WIFOM ourselves to oblivion about if scum are lying about their votes or not. What we ought to be doing instead, is what any good villa does: focusing on the

mindset

behind the vote. Did a player make their vote with town’s best interests in mind or not?

Yep. Nancy is 100% correct here. Though I am concerned about scum lies, I don't actually find them particularly likely with regards to this at least, UNLESS they all piled on a teammate who *didn't* get it and who they don't have verifiable reason to vote for that's unrelated to this game in particular. The reasoning though, that's the thing. The thought process they used to make that decision, and whether that thought process is in line with town!them...that will be useful to at least some people here.

you say yep like she had a point are you scum my dude

I voted Cerberus for what should be self evident reasons.

Gut reaction to FA being chosen is that we have a WIFOM loop: either FA is scum or scum picked FA because FA was a safe pick to pile votes onto.

Sakura Hana gets first serious FOS from me.

And your gut would be wrong.

I voted Frozen.
VOTE: 123456789

Yo, why did you self vote?

he probably sensed the scumpost
sidenote: gamma starts his eternal catch-up dear god

Good thing this isnt MU then.

We can have some of their good habits here

maybe that will help ms towns

Oh dear lawdy are you gonna be Mulch 2.0

mulch was closer to FA 2.0 really

Toranaga explain that vote

I didn't like that midget opened with that post and didn't follow up with anything, and saying "to be honest" can be a dishonety tell so I voted there. it doesn't amount to much but it's where I'm at.

are you fucking serious

I voted Cerberus for what should be self evident reasons.

Gut reaction to FA being chosen is that we have a WIFOM loop: either FA is scum or scum picked FA because FA was a safe pick to pile votes onto.

Sakura Hana gets first serious FOS from me.

And your gut would be wrong.

I voted Frozen.
VOTE: Human

Yo, why did you self vote?

I didn’t.

WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS VIVE LA FRANCE

yeah come 2022 selecao will reign again
sidenote: the amount of setup bs on these pages is just making my eyes glaze

I'm pretty sure purely random out of

5/22

is almost guaranteed to wind up with a scum. Purely random with a smaller number of people selected *might* be optimal, but really, I think that's a silly line to take.

huh?

23 total....FA is one of them, so 22 remaining...she picks *5* OTHER players...so 5/22 can be selected at most.

Assuming Frozen is town (18 / 23):

We have 17 town, 5 scum remaining.

The probability that Frozen picks an all town team is thus: (17 / 22) * (16 / 21) * (15 / 20) * (14 / 19) * (13 / 18) ~ 23.5%
Then the probability that Frozen picks at least once scum randomly is ~(100% - 23.5%) = 76.5%

Assuming Frozen is scum (5 / 23):
We have 18 town, 4 scum remaining.

The probability that the rest of the people Frozen picks are all town: (18 / 22) * (17 / 21) * (16 / 20) * (15 / 19) * (14 / 18) ~ 32.5%
Then the probability that the other members Frozen picks possess at least one scum is ~(100% - 32.5%) = 67.5%

The probability that the 5 members Frozen chooses contain at least one scum if Frozen chooses completely random is thus (18 / 23) * 76.5% + (5 / 23) * 67.5% ~ 75%. That's what the math says about this.

I'm not convinced though that choosing from a smaller pool will increase the odds, simply because that pool may contain multiple scum.... or it may not.

ive been skimming but you're assuming that frozen makes reads one by one (with replacements) instead of simultaneously and independantly.

I'm rooting for Croatia.

its coming home



{}
{}
{human, molla}
{nico,brass,sakura,ircher,hebi,kokichi,mylo,nancy,rando,shiro,worst,titus,tora,muffin}
{sando, drixx, tora, cerb}
{}
{}

looking at these wagons, muffin looks like a meme
ircher is a curious vote
bunch of vanity shit
I pretty much skimmed these pages, so my reads didn't change much, which sucks but people always setup spec in large themes pointlessly

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@nosferatu:I don't expect it to come down to anything other than personal preference, but it's possible that scum were deliberately getting one person the lead, and will want to conceal that...so what they say will be lies! That may or may not be easily caught. *shrug* I don't know this playerlist as well as some, so it'll be a bit harder for me to figure things out than it would have been with other playerlists.

understandable i guess

i would not figure that personal preference would be distinguishable from a lie though

pedit: yeah i started reading and taking notes before replacing in. I plan on marking where i received my role so you can note any changes or whatever, im curious if there are any.

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Spoiler: 17-35

VOTE: alisae

Ok lets discuss this

You're voting katsuki cause you think their vote on you was scummy

You think their claim is legit and that they wouldn't lie about that

These two things can coexist I'm just intrested to know how are they sitting together in your mind? what is your current read on katsuki and how are you elaborating it?

he's voting katsuki cause its their schtick

i used to love this song

I'll act as a second flavour mod since someone used a post restriction power on me that forces me to have to post a youtube vid in each post. It's rather obnoxious so I'll probably just make empty flavour posts.

VOTE: Katsuki
This is both impossible/a lie and a scum-motivated post

this is wrong but i expected town!gamma to say it

sidenote: I got the PM asking if I wanted to replace in here. I was actually reading at the time so i didnt consciously notice any shifts, lemme know if you see any.

Anyone knows why mod keep saying "LEAGUE OF ALISAE" when announcing hero powers under his vcs?

I think Alisae invents two of the powers while the mod had the rest pre-planned.

Isn't that bastard that a "future sub" player is secretly a part of mod team and is giving out powers on ms?

alisae isn't listed as a sub per se, but on a different league altogether

my theory is that alisae is a player in the game with a different wincon and on a league of er own

or something

maybe I'm wrong but that's my impression

its not bastard wtf

I see deliberately calling out the fact that she ignored the rest of the post as an attempt to preempt said pushing. I was debating whether to ask if that bit of flavor in Sakuras post was characteristic of her posting style, or if it had a good chance of being preemptive scum deflection, but this last post seems to support my position . Here Sakura is again, preempting questioning about her reason for playing the way she is, by posting a link and a joke. She already said it was because of a game in the past, nobody asked for a link to the game or anything, but here she is ready to justify what she's doing before the conversation gets too deep into whether her behavior is anti-town or not.

i rolled my eyes so hard i think they might be lodged into my skull

I love that sakura is being pushed for this and find your reasoning extremely villagery from you, and I was villa reading your posting before anyway so this is cool. I don't know if I agree with this, though. I don't think sakura is necessarily doing what she is doing as an excuse to not work on the game, but rather because she is the kind of individualistic millennial generation type of player. I'm sure she'll start posting reads as the game progresses regardless of her rand.

first off why the fuck are you taking such extreme measures to say how much you townread cerb
"i love you're pushing her for this"
"this is such a town thought process"
"i was townreading you already but wow"
immediately followed by
"i dont think she's scum for this"
either you dickride him or he's wrong
actually fucking pick one

Titus, people don't shoot me. You know that.

i fully expect cerb to be shot now

VOTE: titus

I'm doing this.

calling someone a millennial being on the same footing with shading them has to be the most nonsense thing I was ever accused with, which reminds me of when I posted a voldemort gif and you said I was claiming scum in assassins' creed.

this is what you do as scum. you throw any logic out the window to push whatever you want pushed. you'd be more reasonable as town.

if you're telling someone that they are putting themselves on a podium due to circumstances of their birth, that is shading my dude. everytime you dont like what they do you're putting yourself in a position to just say "ah those damn milennials"

VOTE: randomidget

isn't doing anything and posts are awful

this sudden vote switch off of titus is dumb and sus as fuck

Sando puts more effort into their posts than anyone else in the game - probably town

I like how UFO is pushing people hard.

Brass is definitely different here than he was in Necro - a lot more content. I like his thought processes.

FA seems to have good tone.

I’m really liking Titus - plenty of nuanced reads, good interactions, plus is adorable.

Human seems okay so far, I will need to see more from him

Gamma seems okay, some posts seem to be a bit contradictory but tone seems villagery.

Random needs to start posting more. Seems like disinterested villa

Need more on Katsuki, Kokichi and Chick

Numbers - troll lol. Are they scum or just obvious mislynchbait?

I find Sando's points to be useless and lack purpose. Where do you see effort?
What pushes is tora making?
You think brass has been giving content? I see far more movie memes than content.
What makes random disinterested town? I don't see how his posts are AI.
How is ircher (numbers) scummy?

Okay, I briefly looked at the videos Katsuki posted. Most I think are from Deemo rhythm game and are just music but the two here might mean something. I dunno. One is in Japanese (can anyone translate?) and involves a soldier and the one in English talks about putting on a show. I don’t know if this means anything or not but I found it interesting anyway.

why are you trying to find meaning in this?
the first one's title means invincible soldier btw

what makes her town? for the 1000000 time, sakura, why is katsuki town?

[ ] We're masons
[ ] I have a daycop inno on them
[ ] They are day 1 friendly neighbors
[ ] Their play is very towny
[ ] Meta says they're town.
Take your pick

This mentality is so unbelievably trash

It's also nothing like your play last game
VOTE: sakura

its pretty disingenuous to find fault in her response when she's made it abundantly clear that she's not gonna elaborate in any meaningful way.

Granted 839 is the first bit of some sort of honest scumhunting i see from you.

I already don't want to lynch you anymore.

bruh

my human sequence read: "I like the way he is reading the game and things he is reacting to"
cerberus interpretation: "effort = town"

/shrug

you say that like its better

Also, Cerb I did not move the goalposts.

A good Cerb knows nightless isn't a setup town wins. A good Cerb realizes that his claim gives no invests. You're acting in your walls as if one did not exist. Mentioning something is not intellectual vigor.

It's just odd. A good Cerb knows there are serious flaws logically with you.

How is nightless not a setup town wins?

town struggles in 2 v 9 or 11, 5 v 18? Ok...sure.

You are aware nightless has the plus of if someone is irrefutably town scum can't eliminate them right?

and yet nightless games have been held where town lose.

VOTE: titus

{}
{human, molla, gamma, sakura, nancy, muffin}
{nico,brass,ircher,hebi,kokichi,mylo,rando,shiro,worst,titus}
{sando, drixx, cerb}
{tora}
after some deliberation, I decided to lose the extra brackets. I don't think I'll get any townreads that high so it seems extra.

[Nosferatu]

Most I've seen Nos ever post. He could be scum

1. im pretty sure i posted more in the last game we had together
2. first game i ever played I had the highest post count in game (memories of a hyped up 14 year old wilding out)
3. people usually form the opposite conclusion from your premise

pedit: honestly i was starting to doubt the tr i had on mine too

[Nosferatu]

Oh has Nancy posted enough to read off of yet

I'd say probably yeah

I would be so happy if you were both scum and just did that.

I'd legitimately cry if I were scum in this game given that I'd get caught in like 4 secs with this playerlist

[Nosferatu]

@nosferatu

first off why the fuck are you taking such extreme measures to say how much you townread cerb
"i love you're pushing her for this"
"this is such a town thought process"
"i was townreading you already but wow"
immediately followed by
"i dont think she's scum for this"
either you dickride him or he's wrong
actually fucking pick one

things can be towny without being right.

I have nothing to say about your other comments other than I think it comes from town a lot.

I find the way you went about expressing the thought to be more significant than the thought itself.

I do know people expect you to be lurky and useless

dread it. run from it. destiny still arrives.

Elaborate. I want to see you stoke someone's ego.

Well, I've never played a scum game where Sakura didn't scumread me by my 3rd post
I still remember a blitz game where titus caught me in exactly 17 posts
Gamma's not that bad at reading
FA hasn't played with me in a while but she can read me pretty well
And if you started wallposting at me I'd probably just lie down and take it cause defending myself would be a bother.
and ank just arrived.

[Nosferatu]

that could be a difference in how we approach mafia. btw do you agree cerb's thoughts are towny in that post, or you think I'm completely off base in townreading it?

I don't see townreading it as completely offbase, but I don't agree that its townposting. I see cerb's post as an easy opinion to have, and likewise a townread on it to be an easy opinion to have as well.

[Nosferatu]

I'm stealing Nos' format

who stole it from ranger!

[Nosferatu]

Useless or anti-town?

what's the difference

[Nosferatu]

Useless or anti-town?

what's the difference

One hurts town, one neither hurts nor helps...

How is this hard to understand as a concept?

nothing does...nothing... if that makes sense? The fact that it serves zero purpose means that people put time in energy into a waste of time and space.

idk how to make you get this. It's like saying plastic "neither hurts nor helps".

[Nosferatu]

UNVOTE:

nothing does...nothing... if that makes sense? The fact that it serves zero purpose means that people put time in energy into a waste of time and space.

idk how to make you get this. It's like saying plastic "neither hurts nor helps".

You're acting as if it was an absolute known that it would be useless...

fmpov it was useless from the beginning and it was very apparent to me.

[Nosferatu]

i...didnt mean to unvote....

[Nosferatu]

UNVOTE:

nothing does...nothing... if that makes sense? The fact that it serves zero purpose means that people put time in energy into a waste of time and space.

idk how to make you get this. It's like saying plastic "neither hurts nor helps".

You're acting as if it was an absolute known that it would be useless...

fmpov it was useless from the beginning and it was very apparent to me.

Thinking that is one thing, knowing it is another.

this is tangential

[Nosferatu]

ESKETIT
VOTE: cerb

[Nosferatu]

5 more pages?! Gah!

ur literally not allowed to say that

[Nosferatu]

People scumreading muffin is pretty lul

Por que?

Porque HS no sabe que el esta hablando sobre.

(You can use google translate if you don't know what that means.)

i can tell you used google translate to make this post lmfao

Try it the other way; you’ll get something different.

i mean you're right, i just assumed you used google translate cause its wrong lol

Ank and Nos have basically decided to have a whinge about all the useless content whilst providing, well, whinges.

keep tellin yourself that bud

VOTE: ircher

[Nosferatu]

and yes I went from wanting her dead to sheeping her. you mafiascummers just gonna have to deal with it.

I wouldnt mind, but why did you have to pre-emptively defend yourself like this?

lmao

Why is nobody else objecting to Tora's belief that because he agrees with someone they should be able to "lock clear" him?

re: bolded. being a town player is about working with other town players, finding each other and lynching scum. mafiascum is chock full of egos who don't do any of that, but where I come from town wins and I win with town. so, I'm sorry I don't play like ass, I know it sucks to suck.

1st off instead of bolding the part you're responding to, literally just only quote what's relevant
2nd why should literally anyone townread someone because they agree on shit lmfao

plus me and sando have agreed about more than a few things about this game.

like this matters

like at best, this is town hypernitpicking

at worst, it's scum hypernitpicking

truly a relevation

[Nosferatu]

just reading up to a votecount is pretty helpful imo for catching up

[Nosferatu]

ok but similar thought process is indicative of sharing an alignment not just having the same thoughts

parroting the same shit as someone else would be super town-indicative thing then wouldn't it?

you don't need to shill for MU every post you make, you don't need to be here lol

[Nosferatu]

im gonna also preempt the whole "im so happy that i annoy you by doing this" schtick youve got going on cause im not a proud member of this site or whatever and i dont care if you shit on it

i literally only play on here now because my computer broke and im on a chromebook until the end of the month where i can play actual games again

this site is literally just marginally better than flash games on armorgames

what annoys me is you being repetitive

[Nosferatu]

im gonna also preempt the whole "im so happy that i annoy you by doing this" schtick youve got going on cause im not a proud member of this site or whatever and i dont care if you shit on it

i literally only play on here now because my computer broke and im on a chromebook until the end of the month where i can play actual games again

this site is literally just marginally better than flash games on armorgames

what annoys me is you being repetitive

I only said the first paragraph once, and to human . I don't think I'm being repetitive. 90% of my posts are game related, and my criticism of this site is spot on.

im not calling your slot repetitive, youve made disparaging comments about the site more than once, but i dont wanna argue against them or whatever, idrc i just dont like seeing the same thing more than once.

ok but similar thought process is indicative of sharing an alignment not just having the same thoughts

parroting the same shit as someone else would be super town-indicative thing then wouldn't it?

you don't need to shill for MU every post you make, you don't need to be here lol

who's parroting anything, though? afaict me and sando have had similar thoughts in different moments of the game, both me saying it first, him saying it first, and only in your head would a player take a 23 player game and start parroting the same person over and over again. it's very silly.

im not saying anyone here has done it, im arguing that if person a were to have the same conclusions as person b, that you would they share an alignment which is ridiculous imo

size of the game is irrelevant

[Nosferatu]

nosferatu
i just clicked on the last.fm link in your sig accidentally and i'm in love

tyty

[Nosferatu]

i like how we just assume that a lynch pool has associative qualities

[Nosferatu]

i wish i could get neighborized irl

[Nosferatu]

where am I?!!!

good question

[Nosferatu]

Is this suppose to be an insult?

its more like a complement cause instead of calling your play derivative of mulch's i implied the opposite

idk how it would be an insult unless you really hated mulch or something idk

page 40:

FA hasn't played with me in a while but she can read me pretty well

That druid game mate. That is one of my favorite/ most memorable games ever xd

wasnt mine lmao
18 posts just to lose

Nosferatu catchup is towny. his reads are bad imo. Can't follow him at all. his questions are not reads or explanations its just stuff that he through there based on a skim. can't see agenda hunting or critical point rising there. eh

honestly i dont even really remember asking questions

i vaguely remember asking nancy some questions but in some truth i dont really care what she says about them
i still wanna see her answer it from a curiosity standpoint

[Nosferatu]

why didn't you vote back then?

cause i realise that sandos not getting lynched so keeping a vote there is kind of suboptimal

ill just vig him next time i get the chance

[Nosferatu]

{}
{human, molla, gamma, sakura, nancy, muffin,ank}
{nico,ircher,hebi,kokichi,mylo,rando,shiro,worst,titus,fa}
{sando, drixx, cerb}
{tora}

@FA: added you in

pedit: i dont think you have similar play. you just came first so it doesnt make sense to call anything of yours derivative to his lol

[Nosferatu]

titus saying they voted numbers cause they voted for me as little looks good for titus

damn it reading her this game is a little harder than usual

ive noticed that i dont really sort titus, i generally just pick an alignment for her and im usually right

[Nosferatu]

{}
{human, molla, gamma, sakura, nancy, muffin,ank}
{nico,ircher,hebi,kokichi,mylo,rando,shiro,worst,titus,fa}
{sando, drixx, cerb}
{tora}

@FA: added you in

pedit: i dont think you have similar play. you just came first so it doesnt make sense to call anything of yours derivative to his lol

I still hate your readlist. I have a hard townread on tora mainly because meta but his play is also towny ignoring the meta. I don't know why you got the cerb drixx sando tire reads and how molla is up there?

is the tier I'm in null?

its totally possible that im scumreading tora based on playstyle but eh
drixx i just always scumread cause he consistently does nothing at all in games with him
cerb just says some weird shit sometimes i dont like
sando cant make a post with purpose if his life depended on it
molla just for that one vote but he hasnt done anything since so thats a bit yikes yknow

[Nosferatu]

{}
{gamma, ank, sakura}
{human, molla, nancy, muffin}
{nico,ircher,hebi,kokichi,mylo,rando,shiro,worst,titus,fa}
{drix, cerb}
{sando}
{tora}

if i added a category for leans it would look like this if that helps you get the tiers more FA

[Nosferatu]

Okaaaaaay! I'll totes be fun if that means I can be the Ultimate Supreme Leader of this game.

FUCK

[Nosferatu]

TWTBAW

top 10 horrible fucking acronyms

[Nosferatu]

stop quoting giant posts and writing a single line in response

[Nosferatu]

TWTBAW

top 10 horrible fucking acronyms

Nancy is a MU player, be nice

i dont see what MU has to do with shitty acronyms

[Nosferatu]

especially that i never see what would be an equivalent acronym here "TSTBS"
which is also a horrible fucking acronym

[Nosferatu]

would you rather they waste space by writeing the whole thing?

this is sidestepping the issue of it being a terrible acronym.

[Nosferatu]

How come no one is scumreading me? Maybe from now on as scum I'll just do nothing all game and not be scumread. Nee-heehee~

believe it or not taking null actions will cause people to have a null read on you

[Nosferatu]

I FORGOT TO VOTE FOR LEADER
BUT WHO PICKED TITUS

INTERESTING DECISIONS

[Nosferatu]

I don't really feel like playing this anymore

Replace out

admirable

Real quick since its still early in the game if anyone can clarify this, i just don't wanna fuck up

"5. Do not use any form of provable randomness."

What is "provable randomness" mean, like making a post that means nothing? posting off topic to the game?

im pretty sure provably random usually just means dice tags.

[Nosferatu]

i also want to make it clear that since i predicted cerb's death i am thus conf town.

that will be all

[Nosferatu]

i missed deadline too, thats why i quoted the first bit of the gamma post at daystart

[Nosferatu]

No. I was probably made leader because town wanted it. I was right yesterday in that scum wanted FA. So why wouldn't town vote for me?

this is like blatantly illogical

[Nosferatu]

No. I was probably made leader because town wanted it. I was right yesterday in that scum wanted FA. So why wouldn't town vote for me?

this is like blatantly illogical

seems redundant to quote a titus post and say that

maybe fallacious is better

[Nosferatu]

EDIT: RECEIVED A PM THAT TITUS IS SCUM LAST NIGHT BTW SO LYNCH WHENEVER

VOTE: sando

hammer vote sucked o/

[Nosferatu]

Get someone to vote you for stupid reasons, works for me.

i mean you hammered while stipulating a scum team that makes exactly 0 sense but hey i guess its dumb that you lined up lynches after a day of totally useless posts

[Nosferatu]

Did you not look at Shiro's ISO before asking this?

people are definitely lurking harder

[Nosferatu]

'Nos is still my personal thing, to answer Nancy I didn't like some of his Sando progression as well.

VOTE: Drixx

this is fine too.

idk if there was really a progression

i just called him scum multiple times for the exact same reason

[Nosferatu]

Ahhh me? You came in D2 and said my hammer was scummy and voted me. How is that multiple times of the same reason?

we'll pretend that's true.

it's ok

[Nosferatu]

they barely interacted (except insofar as numbers quoted him in his first post and later drixx mentioned something about my point on numbers reads list that didnt make much sense and never amounted to anything). nothing to do with numbers really - just most of the active players are probably town and there's scum hiding in the lurkers with zero content

Outright lie by Muffin here. I complimented the point about numbers reads list and how the way it was "balanced" didn't look right.

where's the vote my guy
you think muffin is scum with titus and sando?

This is literally the least I've ever done in a game. Someone who should be scumreading right now could be maf. I'll go check reads in w bit

You could have legit wrote this in hieroglyphics and it would've made more sense.

#Prodge lol.

Do you have any actual thoughts about the current gamestate?

this is a redundant question
if he did would he be prodging so blatantly?

I was Mr. Mime, if you care.

honestly i always thought your name was some kind of 39 clues reference and i expected some sort of reference back to it on your MU name.

Wait my BS sensors have picked something up
People are suspecting Drixx for being low activity right? From what I recall he generally posts more when there's someone who's relying on him (hydra mate or scumteam, e.g.). So lower activity is probably more towntelling for him.

i dont think anyone is scumreading him for that.

[Nosferatu]

-snip-

Hmmm . . . this is interesting. This lynch would likely clear Muffin, Kasuki and whomever replaced Nico.

this makes no fucking sense

[Nosferatu]

V/LA to Drixx is like diving to Neymar Jr., happens every game

I don’t understand what this means.

YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW DAMMIT

BRASIL WAS ROBBED IN BROAD DAYLIGHT

[Nosferatu]

This quote obviously is confirmation that you fake claimed mason. This post is you also using that fake claim to advance a "cop guilty" from the supposed mason partner.

lmfao

[Nosferatu]

{sando, drixx, titus} can all go

[Nosferatu]

kk i trust

sando<< even better lynch

[Nosferatu]

Anyone who got traction said I might be town at some point.

do you have a read on titus?

I think the posts gut-strike me as town.

can we get some traction on this ^^

[Nosferatu]

kk i trust

sando<< even better lynch

Why?

legit active lurker

Sorry Ace, but i dont think we can, too late, and even then i dont think Sando's scum.

ill get it one day

or some poor sap will give me powers and ill vig him

[Nosferatu]

i forgot who the options were

[Nosferatu]

im down to give fa perma bp

[Nosferatu]

what on earth would we be talking about lol

[Nosferatu]

How is Sando an active lurker?

because his posts serve no legitimate purpose to further the game and yet show the intent to do so.

[Nosferatu]

VOTE: Sando

bless up

i take back everything about france in the world cup

[Nosferatu]

Seven hours people. Mylo looks like it today. As I said I will hammer

if its gotta be mylo it'll be mylo

but ill be damned if i dont make it known that sando was the people's choice

[Nosferatu]

Okay, Sando can go too

VOTE: Sando

CREATURE IS TOWN

Creature there's no time, pls.

WE'LL MAKE TIME DAMMIT

Fine

VOTE: Mylo

CREATURE IS SCUM

VOTE: Sando

THIS MAKES ME QUEASY

[Nosferatu]

voted fa

VOTE: Sando

got a result on sando that said "not town"

so go ahead and lynch that when you want

[Nosferatu]

Titus is scum too

lynch in whatever order you want

[Nosferatu]

that's no reason not to vote now isn't it

[Nosferatu]

awkward

[Nosferatu]

interior crocodile alligator
i drive a chevrolet movie theatre

[Nosferatu]

im gonna trust in the power in ank and say that nancy is scum too

[Nosferatu]

But I can pretty damn obviously say that Nos is

false

correct about the result, more than anyone else can, given I know my own damn alignment.

almost made a big mistake there didn't ya

[Nosferatu]

It never got to my turn to say afaik, but I voted to kill Cerb in scumchat N1.

try to stay on the ball will ya

[Nosferatu]

Am I the only one here that thinks titus is town?

you just might be

and yet i see a lack of votes on her atm which is a pleasant surprise

[Nosferatu]

how is there 7 people? Doesn't the incubation chamber only hold 6 including the leader?

[Nosferatu]

3. The Incubation Chamber may bestow up to six Superpowers each Night Phase.

[Nosferatu]

@Drixx @Mathblade @Titus I really want your opinion on if this is actually titus contacting shiro or not. ask questions that only cerb can answer or the answers will help you to evaluate him.

I am sorry. What is the “this” you want my opinion on?

She meant cerb not titus I'm pretty sure.

how is there 7 people? Doesn't the incubation chamber only hold 6 including the leader?

yeah she refused me when I asked her to make her list definite and just outed the 7 people list to put people in less danger or something which makes absolutely no sense

So there's a throwaway person in the list?

[Nosferatu]

probably one of ank or nancy was the throwaway since i dont see how you would realistically town read both of them

[Nosferatu]

POTENTIAL SCUM
Sando
Drixx

---

I voted for Nosferatu last night to be leader.

Someone has seen the light

locktown

[Nosferatu]

Math I found the answer to your question in legit 30 seconds

[Nosferatu]

Math I found the answer to your question in legit 30 seconds

Congrats Don’t share

The fact “Cerb” couldn’t makes me doubt “Cerb” is talking.

ye ok but if i can do it so easily why would shiro not do it

[Nosferatu]

how does cerb feel about getting shot after saying to titus that its unlikely that he'll be shot n1

[Nosferatu]

titus usually makes d3 vca doesn't she

[Nosferatu]

On top of that, he posted it first thing the day after going a gross misrepresentation of me. Seriously meant to just say "oh what a silly joker Nos is, with his fakeclaims of guilties on townies". Seriously?

ok but sando, you have to be town for this line to work.

Is it worth browsing through these pages?

Shiro is conf!Scum for lying about talking with Cerb more than likely.

“Cerb” refused to answer both Drixx’s and my questions.

I still see no reason for the prevalent thought in this town to be that shiro is lying

The lie that shiro is presumably perpetuating so so high risk low reward, that even in concept it makes almost no sense for shiro to make it, especially considering the amount of people that know cerb pretty intimately and have a long history with him that I'm pretty sure shiro does not have.

The two options here are: cerb doesn't want to confirm or shiro is scum lying in a weird convoluted gambit that makes ostensibly no discernible sense

use that stupid occam's razor that gets spammed on this site so much

this is so dumb to watch

[Nosferatu]

Fuck I hate I have to go to work right now Drixx or FA please explain this

ok, I've seen the whole devil whatever gambit

its stupid bottom line

there's no way shiro makes this gambit here imo

[Nosferatu]

this is going to lead to a lynch other than sando isn't it...

[Nosferatu]

What do you think about Nos claiming a guilty on Sando?

What do

you

think about it?

[Nosferatu]

I find it idly amusing

[Nosferatu]

I find it idly amusing

But Nai?

p much

i dont see a point to your questions.

[Nosferatu]

I find it idly amusing

But Nai?

p much

i dont see a point to your questions.

I was asking you for your read obviously.

Thanks for answering.

you say obviously but you asked if it was NAI and i told you
toog retains my townread of molla from before.

This guy is town!

Wait, did you scumclaim?

This guy is town!

but I need to reassess!

actually facts

1)4, thought you said 5 and cerb originially thought 2 and it was on tuesday the 24th
2) A list of different samsung brand cell phones

This is both absolutely correct and Cerb level precision. Now I'm just curious why the hell Cerb wanted to wait.

there's no way this could have been predicted

[Nosferatu]

toog retains my townread of molla from before.

Wait what exactly did you townread on molla?

why do you ask

[Nosferatu]

toog retains my townread of molla from before.

Wait what exactly did you townread on molla?

why do you ask

I dunno maybe because nothign he did was townie?

i liked an early muffin vote.

[Nosferatu]

That is it? That is your whole reasoning for a townread?

i townread him less than you think i do and i dont want to go through the effort in conveying it to you when ive already done it before for others

[Nosferatu]

id have to find it when its not something that really matters

[Nosferatu]

well I find it weird that you want to avoid the question

im not, even though that's how you're framing it. you actively don't want the answer.

[Nosferatu]

kinda skimmed back but i dont really see anything interesting to comment on and i dont feel like taking a second list

@stungun: probably sakura or the worst, maybe titus or nancy.

[Nosferatu]

honestly i dont see cerb getting drixx wrong

they know each other more than i could know either of them

i still dont want to vote him for leader though

[Nosferatu]

Nos is scum, the constant misrep and progression is basically a tool to get a townie lynched while contributing literally nothing else at this stage.

nah, pretty sure hes just town who thinks youre scum and doesnt care what you say (aint helpful if youre town, but is what it is)

Doesn't change the terrible progression and complete lack of content anywhere other than about me, and that's a clusterfuck of bullshit.

we can pretend this is true

[Nosferatu]

I'm also ready for the accusation that I just pulled off the hardest bus of all time

the burden of talent

[Nosferatu]

honestly i dont see cerb getting drixx wrong

they know each other more than i could know either of them

i still dont want to vote him for leader though

It’s the beginning of the Apocalypse. We actually agree on something.

Who are you thinking for leader?

im honestly not sure? im not keeping track of the people running for it (other than shiro ironically). ill just vote whichever possible leader's in my town reads.

[Nosferatu]

i would saying zmuffingod's opinion differing from mine would deter me

but im so beyond this lmfaoo

[Nosferatu]

Nos - I've outlined repeatedly why this is scum, but I think using a tunnel on me for three days to avoid doing anything means that some-point soon you're gonna have to sort it.

whatever helps you sleep at night my dude

[Nosferatu]

ive only had soy milk my whole life until a few months ago when i switched to rice milk

[Nosferatu]

ive only had soy milk my whole life until a few months ago when i switched to rice milk

I really really like rice milk too
basically I just drink a lot of soy milk for teh nutrition

i wanna try normal cow milk but ive never had the opportunity

[Nosferatu]

I cannot find significant contributions of Creature, Drixx, Gamma, katsuki, koichi, nos, toog, torg, the worst, and zmuffin through the posting of everyone else. Logging off and finding 10 new pages of the same people discussing mechanics makes it really hard to see things. Did scum give up or is Sando a mislynch? The hyperposting makes it hard to tell.

I haven't read anything in the past 20 pages really. I don't mind high activity but it sucks when it happens without me cause i feel no desire to catchup on what i missued

[Nosferatu]

can we just lynch titus and sando

this isnt difficult

[Nosferatu]

771 posts since I was last here? Damn you guys stay talking idly.

[Nosferatu]

can we just lynch titus and sando

this isnt difficult

This is what you sheeped onto me Duckling...this.

true... I wonder if it's just my charisma that's leading to your lynch right now...

VOTE: titus

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This game has so many lurkers with near to 0 content. and you wonder why town win rate on ms is so low? I apologize for the number of posts I had this game but I never wall post, the number is hight because my posts are discrete and I phone post a lot. I was not even active for most of this game and I was really busy or I would probably have even more post number.

would rather read 1 wall than 4 posts strung together by the same person

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sweetheart is kinda condescending

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with a tinge of sexism/misogyny

just a touch

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I don't mechanics talk nearly as much as scum. Open 730.

Open 730.

Open

my dude

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This game has so many lurkers with near to 0 content. and you wonder why town win rate on ms is so low? I apologize for the number of posts I had this game but I never wall post, the number is hight because my posts are discrete and I phone post a lot. I was not even active for most of this game and I was really busy or I would probably have even more post number.

would rather read 1 wall than 4 posts strung together by the same person

yes, I understand that. That is a reasonable request and I'll try to remember to do that as much as I can.

thats a personal opinion. i dont really care about the speed of the game since I remember gistou was legitimately 100 pages per day at one point and nothing can faze me now

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also ill vote sakura over math

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must be Nos. who are the 4 remaining scum?

i forgot to reply to this

uh in no particular order

nancy
stun
sando
titus
kokichi
hebi
creature
tora
math

are varying degrees of sus to me

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Zzzzzz, your desperation to take everything I say out of context is noted.

i didnt take anything outta context my dude

I'm attacking Nos...sorry for defending myself against someone deathtunnelled on me for 2 days.

oi we're voting the same slot right now

camaraderie

must be Nos. who are the 4 remaining scum?

i forgot to reply to this

uh in no particular order

nancy
stun
sando
titus
kokichi
hebi
creature
tora
math

are varying degrees of sus to me

damn that’s a large scum pool, and with 5/9 players that seem to be upper level in activity (nancy, stun, sando, titus, and mathblade), i don’t really like your poe scumpool here

its not poe

nancydrew39
toranaga (i kinda want to trust ank here)

you trust ank on tora but not on his strongest scumread?

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didn’t like answer she gave to my question, and generally haven’t liked the lack of stances she has taken and her avid support of majority lynchwagons (titus and sando here)

i asked nos who he/she would neighbourize.

kinda skimmed back but i dont really see anything interesting to comment on and i dont feel like taking a second list

@stungun: probably sakura or the worst, maybe titus or nancy.

the worst doesn’t seem towny enough to neighbourize, and neither does titus, and in fact given that titus has been in her scum pool what is she wanting to get out of that?

1. Support of majority lynch wagons is not scummy. You scum read titus as well. It's dumb that you even bring it up as a point.
2. the worst i would neighborize because he hasn't caught up and neither have i and as town i have a vested interest in bringing him up to speed, and reading is better when you have something to bounce thoughts off of. the worst previously mentioned that he wanted an accountability buddy. This would be fulfilling that request in a sense.
3. I would neighborize titus simply because i find talking to her interesting as she makes no sense 75% of the time.
4. I think nancy is sus based on ank's read. Neighborizing is an easy way to sort.

a titus-nosferatu-toogeloo-one of katsuki/kokichi scum team isn’t looking bad to me at all. nos comes out to start this day phase with a fake cop guilty on sando to distract votes right off the bat away from titus while also saying she advocates a titus wagon, she advocates “maybe” wanting to neighbourize a titus that she thinks is scummy (and advocates neighbourizing another scumread in nancydrew).

1. why is this indicative of me and titus being scum together at all? I took a vote off of sando to vote titus. Makes no sense.

if you’re referring sando, nosferatu

I'm referring to the person I quoted the post around.

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am i not reading the right game

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am i not reading the right game

Apparently not. Stun already busted you for distorting Ank’s read on me.

he hard scumread you d1 so i remembered that

he reset after the ircher flip

you make it sound like he never scumread you at all.

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this convo feels sketchy somehow lmao

Nos is shading me. I’d definitely call that sketchy after Stun already debunked what he said, he still persists in not only misconstruing Ank’s words but mine as well.

how did i miscontrue your words...

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am i not reading the right game

Apparently not. Stun already busted you for distorting Ank’s read on me.

he hard scumread you d1 so i remembered that

he reset after the ircher flip

you make it sound like he never scumread you at all.

What about me saying that was on D1? Nice backpedal. Not buying it.

i didnt backpedal anything

you keep using these words but you dont use them right

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like im not shading you, i was sheeping what i thought was ank's read before he died, I simply remembered the wrong EoD posting.

i didnt backpedal, i havent gone back on anything

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thats not misconstruing your words

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like misconstruing is would be me intentionally misunderstanding what you're saying to make you seem scummy but i havent done that

i thought ank was scumreading you so i had my eye on you cause i trust ank's reads. i was townreading you otherwise.

ank didnt scum read you end of d2 so youre no longer sus

this isnt that complex

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You’re trying to push a mislynch on me

yeah ok point out to me when this happened

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ok but what there made you think that I would stop trying to lynch sando or titus, to stop and lynch you for no reason because SOMEONE ELSE scum read you?

keep in mind sando just said that I was basically misrepping and lying about his every post to get him lynched

why in the everloving fuck do i dump all of that shit, and try to start a lynch on you?

what made you think this thought?

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oh yeah and stun, who "busted me" also just commented on me wanting to neighborize YOU if I had the opportunity to

why do you think I would do that if I planned to get you mislynched today? or tomorrow? or whenever?

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ok but what there made you think that I would stop trying to lynch sando or titus, to stop and lynch you for no reason because SOMEONE ELSE scum read you?

keep in mind sando just said that I was basically misrepping and lying about his every post to get him lynched

why in the everloving fuck do i dump all of that shit, and try to start a lynch on you?

what made you think this thought?

I can’t mindread, I can only tell you how it looked to me at the time.

It did look like to me, like a suspicious push. I’m sure you’d view it similarly if the situation was reversed.

I mean its not really "at the time" because "at the time" was literally not even an hour ago

Also I would not view it similarly, because people have called me sus this game and I haven't accused them of trying to lynch me.

It

appears to me

as if you don't fully consider the likelihood of actions before you accuse other people of them.

oh yeah and stun, who "busted me" also just commented on me wanting to neighborize YOU if I had the opportunity to

why do you think I would do that if I planned to get you mislynched today? or tomorrow? or whenever?

When did I ever say you were planning to do that

tonight

specifically?

I don't know where you're getting this from.

It feels like you're waiting for a "gotcha!" moment that will probably never come.

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^

kokichi getting super powers should be our #1 priority

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{Frozen Angel, MathBlade, Drixx*}
{stungun0404, Nancy Drew 39, Toranaga*}
{zMuffinMan, Gamma Emerald, hebichan, Sando}
{Creature**, the worst}
{Katsuki, Nosferatu, Kokichi Oma, Shiro, Toogeloo}
{Titus}

ur list is almost upside down smh

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i kinda wanna go back to sando

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{Frozen Angel, MathBlade, Drixx*}
{stungun0404, Nancy Drew 39, Toranaga*}
{zMuffinMan, Gamma Emerald, hebichan, Sando}
{Creature**, the worst}
{Katsuki, Nosferatu, Kokichi Oma, Shiro, Toogeloo}
{Titus}

ur list is almost upside down smh

I don't see any reason you should be saying this about certain people and it makes me worried this is just shade

the fuck does this post mean

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It means I don't like your post

hurr durr

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VOTE: Creature

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read: lurkier players voting a lurker out.

looks bad to the eyes for a last minute vote push

Nos and Toog are not lurkers.

all a matter of relative opinion, but this day phase i feel both slots have largely stayed out of the limelight in times where the heat was hot in the thread, times when it would be exceptionally easy for any scum slot to just say “fuck it” i don’t want to post. for example, when mathblade and i were going at it, or as goes the whole shiro argument, which i don’t think either has commented much on but i may be wrong - this is mainly off memory

I gave my piece on the shiro thing as it was happening

i didnt even know you and math did a thing.

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Creature (6): zMuffinMan,

the worst, Titus, Toogeloo, Nosferatu

, stungun0404

Holy shit this is ugly.

these people left the titus lynch so what does that say about titus's wagon eh?

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town!creature is legitimately a spam poster so idk how you let creature lurk to endgame ever @stungun

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VOTE: Titus

yeah back over here lol

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just lynch for the sake of everyone's minds

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pedit: I think that titus's day phase play had content today
pedit2: ty tora i somewhat acknowledge that my suspicion of your slot is mostly due to playstyle.

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math thinks titus is scum almost every game

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math thinks titus is scum almost every game

Above average yes
But if town literally is antitown simply because I scumread Titus then that is complete and utter BS.

Titus is scum I have given undefended reasons
I am defenseless confirmed town screaming what is possibly my last fucking will

If I am wrong then you all can laugh and ridicule me and Titus and Shiro can spirit medium mock me for all the damn time if Shiro lives

I only mention it because tora implied that you had a good handle on titus's meta

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friendly reminder to lynch sando tomorrow if this flips town

or if this flips scum

really doesn't matter all that much

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ok titus readslist was wolfy

I'm relieved

How was it wolfy?

it's just empty

you're not town if those are your reads

there's no nuance there dear

that opinion feels like you wanted something other than what you asked for

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MathBlade has been elected Day 4 and Night 4 Leader.

huh

well uhh

wonder how that happened

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Creature's probably scum tho.
His meta points to Creature scum, and me saying that Titus was busing Creature and she invoking her meta leads me to think that was her intention.

this does suck but idk if i were town!stun i wouldnt have even dropped the long ass post after it was already wrong

along with the vote on shiro

issa lil sus

LAST NIGHT RECEIVED A GUILTY RESULT PM ON SHIRO

APPARENTLY MODS MISSED MY REPLACE OUT BUT ILL DROP A VOTE ON SHIRO IN THE MEANTIME

VOTE: SHIRO

oof

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uh in no particular order

nancy
stun

sando

titus

kokichi
hebi
creature

tora

math

toog

are varying degrees of sus to me

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hmm yeah did Titus claim her team?

Yes her team was: FA, Math, Nancy, Shiro, Ank and herself, Ank also died that night so it's unconfirmed and since Titus was scum it's very unlikely that she did get any power.

all town team here?

I voted sakura last night.

same

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we need to get kokichi powers

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i had had a whole pack of skittles and half of one of those big bags of nerds so im on a little bit of a high

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also fun fact: im so colorblind i cant even tell skittles apart

i just shove them apart and hope i get green apple

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apart? shove them in my mouth

how did I do thaot?

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I can only imagine the amount of BS flying around if Shiro were alive and had been negated...I imagine scum would see the same potential, so if scum had it I'd say it was Titus that had that power.

Titus cannot have Power Negate unless Math is scum, both confirmed to each other to have precog

Correct.
I can also use my precog again since I won’t die tonight if it helps clear some things up for people.
Since I couldn’t actually use protection and Titus almost wasn’t lynched I actually took petrification. I am very rarely ever a nightkill so I figured it’s a safe bet since I am regarded as dumb.
Since it’s 9v9 for leader votes as per the plan I guess if it’s between me or Sakura then scum picked me?

I quite frankly forgot that you were in the running for leader. I don't know what the scum motivation for picking you over sakura would be for scum except maybe to shoot sakura for tonight? I'd think they'd want to get you out of the way first though, seeing that you're near conf-town status atm

I didn't vote anyone for lead last night. Didn't read the game either, but technically speaking I didn't specify when I was going to read it. Safest lynch today is me tbqh. Get me out now before I become a mislynch later. I'm not going to get power or be elected leader, like ever, which basically makes me a Vanilla, and I'm not putting in enough effort to really be a useful Vanilla even.

VOTE: Toog

I am okay with this lynch because Toog made a promise and didn’t follow through with it. The lawyerese speak reeks of Titus coaching. While technically true it’s something my sister has said to me in strategy/deception games numerous times. It’s like trying to dodge the lynch 101. And if Toog is town it does provide analysis towards the day end events to find scum. I think it’s a scum ploy to avoid the wagon.

I agree with this. Titus flip makes Toog look mad sus
VOTE: Toog

Just find a vig and shoot me

honestly if i got powers and vig was up, I'd take it and shoot sando

he's probably town, but I've got to be consistent. At least that's what Titus told me in scumchat before she died.

It’s much more in our interests to lynch elsewhere imho and among Titus’s defenders imho.

Do you not think Titus was bused?

for that to work they risked ank getting mediumed which would out titus or they thought the people with medium will out themself and they can kill them all in time which seems ridiculous.

or nancy is the scum in titus list who got power negate and used it for scum team in titus behalf

I kinda think titus gave an all-town list.

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i had had a whole pack of skittles and half of one of those big bags of nerds so im on a little bit of a high

no such thing as a sugar rush I heard

this is for the most part true but if you don't eat sweets that much and then suddenly eat a shit tonne like what happens when I do it, your endorphins and dopamine shoot to the moon which is an up.

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he's L-2? Are we gonna get a lynch before I finish reading?

wild

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We actually need to make nancy claim her night 2 too. everyone else with power claimed it from n2.

also maybe her night 1

nancy has been away from this game for awhile i dont remember any of her posts as of late anyhow. Is she not in other games as well?

@Tora, agree current string of posts is town!Creature scented.

i disagree but he's probably not scum by virtue of the behaviour other flipped slots.

btw please take the wagon as a compliment.

So what really happened there?

Scum spent all day trying to get me lynched instead of Titus and when that failed they flailed onto wagons like you to desperately keep their superhero Titus alive.

Like who?

Yeh, Sando feels better today.

imo no he doesn't but like I said for your slot, other flip scum make him an unlikely team mate.

the worst

either

town

or extremely good wolf

i concur

Sorry can't help, currently 100% for voting scum this game, need to keep my perfect record

i mean you voted drixx and me so you already fucked that up my dude

I feel like I haven't really captured the likeable aesthetic of Shiro's pitch. damn.

quite frankly yours is a little bit frightening

Especially with how much resistance there was to the titus wagon

^ unless stun went for the hardest bus of 2018, mad doubt that he's scum

@fa, why did you want to redirect a kill to sando?

i think ur town but i also think u like to ask useless questions.

Also Shiro flip = scum didn't want an Anka mediumship? Talk to me someone

This...actually hit a very important vein in the discussion. I think it's very likely Ank was not given a power n2 and the kill was to cover-up the fact. Any objections?

this seems to be the popular opinion.

-snip-

this is weak honestly
prob scum.

I find toranaga to be likelier to be town on the focus of his content than mathblade

I would also agree with this.

p sure shiros an antideathmiller

Ahahaha you fucking dimwit this game isn't bastard, go sit in the corner and stfu and let the adults talk

i read this so aggressively that i choked a little bit

who should be elected as leader?

I have one shot BP thing so maybe not me?

I already said I want one of Creature/sando

why creature for leader?

Let's not hammer toog until tomorrow. He said he'd be able to pop in then, and i want to see his defense to mathblade

I don't think we're gonna get much better than that post he already gave.

-snip-

Titus was insulting me/my play/my ability the entire day. If scum had to choose between me who Titus thought sucked and Sakura who Titus didn’t insult, who do you think scum would pick?

-snip-

Can you please stop doing what I think are jokes? I struggle with that

-snip-

It’s possible but more likely than not due to the resistance scum were trying to save Titus

-snip-

I think it’s all town or she gave one to scum after killing Ank

See underline.

1. I mean Titus was demeaning your play but that's cause she was scum and you thought she was. I don't see why the scumteam would continue to take that to heart when they know you're correct and she's discrediting to save herself
2. I'm partly not joking. I'd probably shoot sando.
3. Ok. The wagon split off seemed more like town indecision to me though.
4. I mean that's a possibility. Did she have more people in her list than what were available to give town to? If so then she probably gave it to scum!nancy. Otherwise I'm inclined to think that the list she gave was all town and she gave it to scum not in the list.

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can't work out whether the anxiety of not knowing which skittle comes next or the ecstatic feeling of netting a green apple skittle is better

guess it's not a bad compromise

well i mean i almost always do cause i put like 10 in my mouth at once

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ive been colorblind a long time now

its been done

ive also done it with m&ms

and most any color-coded candy

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VOTE: nancy

there counter wagon

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oh shit this game still exists

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I'm actually thinking that stun might be best for the fifth power slot. I'm warming up to him a lot. What do you guys think?

don't think that was a very town indicative post but he's a pretty town slot overall
no objections.

Drakura Sixx sounds like a band name

anyone wanna start a band?

down
can play almost any instrument necessary

@drixx: you take lead and I'll do rhythms?

interesting, but you would have neighbourized scum by choosing titus, which might have been a bad usage of it there. would it concern you at all if you had a neighbourize power and you neigbourized scum —> especially in a game with powers —> in case you gained any?

I was voting titus when I made that post iirc so im pretty sure no?

it’s also interesting that there is a game related reason to both nancy drew there and the worst, but not titus?

cause i would neighborize titus cause i think it would be interesting.

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damn nero is in this game now?

[Nosferatu]

fuck off and die.

LOL but why tho

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fuck off and die.

LOL but why tho

Don't you lurk and do shit all as town?

no i do that as scum

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Questionable people detonate other questionable people.

i want in on this

also lurk creature is scum creature. kill that?

Creature isn’t lurking?

he has less posts than me lmfao

Town block says (this is an example it may need tweaking )
Sando you blow up on Worst
Nos you blow up on Kokichi
Creature you blow up on Hebichan
Tor you blow up on Theta
Stun you blow up on <fuck I forget who is left in the pool>

if kokichi cannot obtain powers

i will take up the mantle to put him out of his misery

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@nosferatu, this is an interesting train-of-thought —> so if kokichi is scum, what do you think his strategy is for this game? because i do not really think i grok one myself. and after thinking it over do you feel he is more likely scum or town?

i think he just lowkey forgot the game existed, let it pile up cause he wasnt interested in catching up and it has snowballed past the point of return

its a coinflip but i would bet scum tbh

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He fakeclaimed a gulity on Sando soon after he replaced into Chicadee slot.

It was actually like a whole 2 game days after I replaced in but more importantly you can't prove its a fake claim until I flip!

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An unpopular opinion would be Nero, mostly coz this looks more like his town meta than his scum meta, im not 100% sure how good Nero would be at replicating his scum meta at this point, but i've had a couple encounters with his scum meta and he was... way less active.

I literally cannot ever remember nero's scum meta, although I know for sure I've played with it before.

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Nos had a slightly different take from memory, but his fake-guilty sums up the quality of his arguments tbh.

little bit unfair to insult my argument when it was founded by a purely objective pm from the mod but ok

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incisive commentary

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Gamma and Nos were pretty happy about that.

not completely sure if this is ironic

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He fakeclaimed a gulity on Sando soon after he replaced into Chicadee slot.

It was actually like a whole 2 game days after I replaced in but more importantly you can't prove its a fake claim until I flip!

Don’t you mean, when Sando flips?

nope!
i couldve been redirected this whole time

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which is Math/titus of opposite alignments will get into a fight.

they'll fight if they're both town so its more like math will always call titus scum unless they are scum together

titus calls math scum every other game, but will discredit every time.

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@nero: to ur knowledge has cerb ever misread drixx

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He fakeclaimed a gulity on Sando soon after he replaced into Chicadee slot.

It was actually like a whole 2 game days after I replaced in but more importantly you can't prove its a fake claim until I flip!

Don’t you mean, when Sando flips?

nope!
i couldve been redirected this whole time

The setup states that we all start off as vanillas and the only PRs are those who were either elected leader or picked as superheroes. To the best of my recollection, you have been neither.

thats to ur knowledge innit

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no but I don't think I've ever played with a cerb-drixx town

i ask because ive been scumreading drixx for a lot of the same reasons you have since i replaced in d1 but cerb had a strong townread on him

but as of late ive been deferring to cerb's read on the count of their deep personal relationship and confidence in reading each other.

so ive you've got any evidence to the contrary id be happy to hop back onto drixx, but until then i think most cases that you make will be dismissed.

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It’s expressly stated in the setup.

u cant know what you dont know

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I'd just like to mention im 100% in favour of the bomb squad as long as i am able to join it tia

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we're still lynching Toog right

i sure hope so for his sake

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im gonna be voting for sakura, not sure if we're going 12-4 on this or not? Saw a sando post with him and some other peeps on fa.

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wow this is still going jesus

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VOTE: toog

L-1 now

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1 hour later...

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wowie i have not read shit

can i bomb someone know or what

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But There is a cult goo for real. I'm alarmed af. let me search the wiki

FRIENDLY REMINDER THE GAME IS MOD-CONFIRMED TO NOT CONTAIN CULTS THANK YOU

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i volunteer to be the lone bomber

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@Nero - I'd appreciate a concise and specific list after the game of what is "bad" and what is "scummy" and why. Bad needs fixing. Scummy to casual view I don't give a shit about. My job isn't to be the most obvious townie who ever towned and get myself night killed straightaway. Especially since I'm hilariously bad on day one. It's basically a signature of Drixx play that you are going to suspect me.

this makes me want to self-harm

and by self-harm i mean bash my head into a wall repeatedly