Open 633: Near Vanilla-GAME OVER

[Killthestory]

what happened to sheeping me

[Killthestory]

when

[Killthestory]

moi youll never be able to push me

[Killthestory]

but I wanna hammer ; ) ) )

VOTE: Snarky

[Killthestory]

Fuck 'em all I'll never love 'em, I'm way up

[Killthestory]

im so good at this game

[Killthestory]

LOL MoI you simply cannot pull votes onto me. stop trying

[Killthestory]

lol you can try to irritate me but we both know who the real winner is

[Killthestory]

if u scumread me u suc!!1!

[Killthestory]

alt city

$in¢ity

[Killthestory]

I'll answer you if it isn't a loaded question and seems perfectly reasonable.

[Killthestory]

Because I'm trigger happy. Snarky was going to be lynched anyway, and the discussion stagnated. I wasn't going to defend him if he wasn't going to defend himself. It was faster to hammer, and then get real scum.

[Killthestory]

oh im tired dude. lowell is still obv scumming and im pretty sure ranger is obvtowning but yaknow

[Killthestory]

You've remained tired for three whole days? How is Lowell "obv scumming?" Can you quote the relevant posts and point out what is suspicious about them? Why aren't you voting his slot if he's so obviously mafia? What are your thoughts on his replacement Masquerade?

yes

[Killthestory]

real motherfuckin g's
real motherfuckin g's

[Killthestory]

G R E E T I N G S T R A V E L E R

[Killthestory]

I'm gonna RNG a number. Whoever it lands on is gonna be lynched today

[Killthestory]

lol

[Killthestory]

HOLY FUCK THIS GAME DOESNT MATTER ANYMORE THIS GIRL THAT IVE LIKED FOR SO LONG AND SHES HOT AND SHIT, WELL I ASKED HER OUT AND SHE SAID YES OMG

notice im not a loser, i pull girls, but she is hot and ive liked her for so long

[Killthestory]

how am i null

[Killthestory]

moi I need you to talk about me more in the third person again to other people pls

[Killthestory]

can we lynch MoI? Like I don't even care if he's not scum at this point

[Killthestory]

kek

VOTE: Masquerade

Because I'm B O R E D

[Killthestory]

will post in a bit, broke my foot

[Killthestory]

so ranger you think imperium and MoI are town? im cool with that.

can we like, lynch the Lowell slot or whoevers in it? it's clearly scum lmfao

[Killthestory]

kek sorry masq but im going to lynch you today

[Killthestory]

kek titus i think im gonna lynch you too for hurting my god rangers feelings

[Killthestory]

mayb not tho

[Killthestory]

can i be your leader? ill be the best leader kek

[Killthestory]

IVE BECOME IMPORTANT.

Masq is scum mainly because of his predecessor, and he hasn't necessarily helped himself. When it came to Lowell, Lowell posted little. When he did post, it felt off. In the last game I played with Lowell, the guy didn't seem to like me. He got me lynched because he didn't like my playstyle and thought it was scummy.

Then you have this game where in the early game Lowell was buddying the fuck outta me. He said he was gonna sheep me to victory or some shit and that I was town. That's a major jump from one game to another. It felt insincere, and his pushes lacked any sort of genuine scumhunting. It was just scummy as fuck.

Then you have Masq who's pushing good cases, but I disagree. Any case can be made to look good in the eyes of others, but it isn't necessarily true. Any mafia player knows this to be true since some players convince themselves that another town is scum when they're town. So while Masq's pushes might have looked good, I disagree with them because I'm currently townreading a couple of the people he's pushing. His defense also is lacking any sort of passion a townie might have. Not, like, anger, but more of a certain desperation. I'm feeling Masq more like an entrapped animal rather than a desperate townie trying to make others see reason.

[Killthestory]

thats my style kek

[Killthestory]

kek means lol but it's hip and gangster and what the cool edgy children use kek

[Killthestory]

im all three kekekekkeekekeke

[Killthestory]

Now I just wanna put you in my purse and have you laugh at all the bad guys.

: )

Yeah I don't do desperate. I only do frustrated so now PLEASE READ ME FOR ME AND NOT FOR LOWELL BECAUSE I CANT DEFEND AGAINST ANY OF THAT> If I didn't know my slot'sd alignment i might even agree with you.

reading you is 2 much work, plus id have to deal with more AtE bullshit from you

[Killthestory]

WHY IS EVERYBODY FEMALE AND I KEEP ASSUMING THEY'RE MALE

also, ok, i understand. see if you were a guy id have mistook that for AtE, but im a gentleman and would never do that to an attack chopper

[Killthestory]

sorry about that autocorrect corrected woman to attack chopper.

[Killthestory]

im sorry for not realizing you were an attack chopper.

[Killthestory]

MoI is the best memer known to man

[Killthestory]

VOTE: Ranger

you led me astray, a false prophet

[Killthestory]

Mod I am on V/LA til Monday morning.

This is MYLO so pretty damn sure my scum reads on kill and Rach are spot on given this power wagon attempt.

Ollie if you are Town you will unvote. Otherwise I'll assume Imperium was right on you.

NO MORE VOTES!

This is MYLO. I'm the Jailkeeper and can show you the crumb when I am not mobile posting.

you fucking suck

[Killthestory]

kek I thought I was obvtown but apparently PR has something to with it

False prophet

[Killthestory]

LOL MOI CALLED ME A VI LOL THATS SO IRONIC

[Killthestory]

RANGER IS A F A L S E P R O P H E T

[Killthestory]

Yo guys don't respond to MoI when he says I'm scum and wants explanation because it's hilarious omg.

But Ranger is obvscum and is a false prophet. He led me astray, and now I'm going to nail him to a cross

[Killthestory]

YO WHAT DONT TALK ABOUT LYNCHING ME IVE BEEN OVBTOWN THIS ENTIRE GAME WHAT

Also neither of Imp has ever played with me so thats null K E K

[Killthestory]

@Killthestory

Why is Ranger a false profit? Do you have anyone else as scum?

no

@MoI, postgame is going to be very, very satisfying because you fucking suck

[Killthestory]

MoI shut up

Ranger is obvscum he's pushing my townread because that's all he can do ez game ez life Rach is conf tomorrow if Ranger flips scum

[Killthestory]

MoI shut up

Go sit in your time-out chair child the adults are talking.

why do the adults have such low iqs then ?

[Killthestory]

titus r u rangers scumbud?

[Killthestory]

titus do you believe ranger is dirty dirty scum?

[Killthestory]

My reads are largely the same as they were in my catchup. I have far too many I am suspicious of still but I am leaning in favor of Nosferatu/Lowell/KTS having a few scum in there. I haven't reached Ranger's sub in during my catch up. I have jmo and Imperium as town. Jmo is Snarky.

hint: these are all town

[Killthestory]

Spoiler: Thoughts until post 300

35 OceanWind looks rather townie in his push here.

49 Nosferatu is far too aggressive for the situation. Personal circumstance or scum.

54 Agree with Lowell on Magna being a townread at this point. Yet, I don't like Lowell saying Magna can be annoying in the same post. It undercuts his townread.

62 I like jmo's vote on Lowell here.

69 I don't get KTS's vote here at all.

77 That's town Klingon. I am rather surprised Klingon is doing the posting here given Lowell's open invitation to murder newbies. That does not make sense. Of course, I am reading this knowing the slot is town at the outset so that may color my views.

88 Not a fan of this by KTS. He says that he'll death tunnel OceanWind if OceanWind does not got him. The push is abandoned without resolution in a "look at me" kind of way.

94 This again looks like Lowell taking an easy townread. Ohh you pointed out your traditional scum behavior, must be town. Lowell being this simplistic at this point is really starting to bother me.

97 I like 97 by Ollie. He thinks he has found an inconsistency and is pushing on it.

98-99Nosferatu seems more focused on "winning a battle" than sorting.

102 This look like theatre. How were these two sorting each other by engaging in a semantic debate and recommending how to reply in the future?

106 This reads like posturing from KTS. He's acting hyperaware of his town meta and complaining about not getting votes. If he only naturally gets pressured as town and cannot draw votes to himself to match, the likelihood of KTS being scum goes up.

132 Nosferatu has crap for reads and vote progression (unless Nosferatu is voting Ollie and I missed it). The Lowell read is tentative and Nosferatu is doing nothing to engage it. The rest just feel like obligatory names of people drawing attention outside of them.

143 I am not sure I agree with all of OceanWind's reads but we're picking up largely the same things but drawing different conclusions. The Nosferatu read looks like stubborn equals town though which is just logically bad. Some players are notoriously stubborn as scum.

144 Unless Nosferatu is an alt, I don't see how he has the experience to make that conclusion.

149 That's obvtown Ollie.

157 That's terrible posting from Lowell. You're trying to persuade people who disagree on your read when the slot has no content, I will call you scum for pressuring that. Don't think so. Theatre isn't content. He doesn't even check to see who Ollie is voting before lashing out and Lowell usually isn't careless.

187 KTS posting on this page makes me want to put a noose around his neck.

I'm commenting on less posts specifically or this will take all day.

I like Magna's push on Acryon.

213 I like this post by Imperium. We did see the behavior from KTS slot and interpreted it differently. I think we're at similar places but I lean scum with a possibility of town rather than the other way.

228 KTS wagoning himself is all about self meta. Yet, when JMO uses it, it's scummy? Rope now.

Klingoncelt is right about KainTepes 's scum meta. Was CoM lynched by scum for being right? I'd put some comments in here about ABR doing nothing but sinking his partner but those thoughts would just be the type my mother said to keep to myself.

293 ABR decides to play. He has Imperium as scum (huh?) KTS (get that one) and a secret scum read. Well that better be Kain otherwise you aren't even trying to sync up.

everyone she scumreads flips town, everyone she defends has a likelihood of being scum. buddies up to Imp early on and says that Ollie is obvtown

so if ollie was obvtown, why is he obvscum now titus?

[Killthestory]

Yeah, I just skimmed through Lowell's ISO. I'm content voting here until I am fully caught up. My biggest concern is that KTS and Nosferatu are both acting very weird about this, but I cannot get ahead of myself.

VOTE: Lowell

all three players r town

[Killthestory]

Ranger, what do you think about my reads? What should I focus on in my catch up? Why have you made no effort to talk to me since I got here?

huh

[Killthestory]

VOTE: Nosferatu

Let's fight this out.

T: Imp, Ranger,Ocean, Magna, Ollie

why do you have Ranger and Ocean as town?

VOTE: Nosferatu

Let's fight this out.

T: Imp, Ranger,Ocean, Magna, Ollie

why do you have Ranger and Ocean as town?

wait whoa whoa whoa aren't you the one who said we've been buddied and need a hard reset? what did you mean by that? And why do you have the people who I was assuming you were claiming were buddying us and we needed to reset about us as town???

I didn't actually specify who was buddying you. Yet, I don't think it's Ranger by context. I think the people buddying you were the ones not objecting to your snowman case.

I feel the Ranger and Oceanwind are pretty solidly town. They just feel like a radical departure from their scumgames.

Ranger avoids read walls for the most part and reassessment in the face of bad logic. In her recent scum Micro, she refused to consider that her buddy was scum in a 6 player lylo situation despite that situation being very viable to a town Ranger. Here, she's reconsidering a Magna read when the meta does not match.

As for Ocean, his pushes seem rather genuine. Unless you're going for a selective pushing angle (which dictates Ocean Now), I cannot see that.

H U H

[Killthestory]

VOTE: OceanWind

Tammy's taking her time to help you get better and you call it a self-righteous personal attack. You're scum. You took my townread and shitted all over it. I can't see how any player thinks Tammy is attacking them here.

Being called a "shit human being" and the worst person on site for making sure your own scumbuddy treats people with decency. Then talk to me about personal attacks.

You should be thanking her for thinking you're worth the effort if town. Just say thanks. Your advice is wrong but I appreciate the effort.

?????????????????????

A couple posts ago you said this slot was solidly town? wat

[Killthestory]

*pokes you to my question* I need guidance

after you were scumreading me?

[Killthestory]

That Micro game where you flaked as scum really supports that position too ...

Oh, right, now that you bring it up...does this Killthestory feel like the same Killthestory-as-Kanbei from that game?

It doesn't to me.

Here we go. It was KTS not Magna, Ranger was reconsidering. I think I misspoke there. It was Magna making the point though.

this was the only post about me before Titus asked for guidance.

lol what. so did you and ranger decide to just not push me or what?

[Killthestory]

VOTE: Masq

You got me there. The rolefish really hit the desperation note but it didn't seem like desperate town. More like nightkill hunting.

P.S. Trolling one liners are hard as fuck for me to read KTS.

@Imperium, I submitted a VLA for us too.

you seemed to jump on that wagon hard for mediocre reasoning

[Killthestory]

thats weird.

titus was buddying up to ranger until he started getting attacked. going for easy towncred for later?

i think it's safe to say Titus has a large chance of being ranger's bud

[Killthestory]

moi's an idiot is all kek.

also my playstyle is diff so you have to treat me special and shit

[Killthestory]

yeah my reads have been kind of shit this game and i'm disappointed. i think it's because i'm putting less effort than one i was early game so my reads were more on point then since i actually took the time to iso and read the game in depth. i got lazy end game which is one of my major flaws.

i mean, i need motivation to play. sometimes, i just dont feel like playing at all. give me something to do and i think ill do it

[Killthestory]

titus and ranger

[Killthestory]

not sure, ranger is p obvscum at this point, should have seen it earlier. gut says titus is scum along w/ him, ISOd and seemed alright.

ranger was hard defending MoI and MoI's been tunneling me all game, so I could see MoI scum, but gut says he's just idiot town.

[Killthestory]

well thats definitely a hard one since gut tells me titus is town, but ranger is def scum so hes gotta be todays lynch

titus is very hard to read for me honestly.

[Killthestory]

if we doubt are solid reads we'll end up losing the game in itself. dealing with doubt will only lead to mislynches, we must deal with absolutes to understand how to best sort out this situation

[Killthestory]

lol moi says that but he deathtunnels me all game and no ones had a correct scumread that they got lynched as of yet

[Killthestory]

LOL.

no im not a VI, I just dont care

[Killthestory]

P sure Nos is town.

[Killthestory]

How sure are you that RachMarie is town? Enough to risk the game on?

Yes.

Titus, Ollie, KTS would be what I think the scum team would look like with you as town.

There's one minor flaw here

[Killthestory]

Team is Kill + Titus + [rach, ollie]

Or Ranger is scum.

With this outline pretty sure I'm cool no lynching.
VOTE: No Lynch

this is terrible. Now might be scum

[Killthestory]

ok that makes sense

im sorry now lets lynch Ranger kek

[Killthestory]

F A L S E P R O P H E T

RANGER'S READS TURNED US TO A MISLYNCH, SO HE MUST BE SCUM. HIS READS ARE WRONG, AND HIS READS ARE NEVER WRONG, SO HE MUST BE SCUM.

F A L S E P R O P H E T

[Killthestory]

RANGER'S READS TURNED US TO A MISLYNCH, SO HE MUST BE SCUM. HIS READS ARE WRONG, AND HIS READS ARE NEVER WRONG, SO HE MUST BE SCUM.

^Btw, Killthestory already knows this isn't true.

He's also at this point intentionally misgendering me.

d i e f a l s e p r o p h e t

[Killthestory]

This is the part where, if I was scum, I'd self-hammer to just end the day.
I'm not.
VOTE: Killthestory.

lmao

[Killthestory]

RANGER'S READS TURNED US TO A MISLYNCH, SO HE MUST BE SCUM. HIS READS ARE WRONG, AND HIS READS ARE NEVER WRONG, SO HE MUST BE SCUM.

^Btw, Killthestory already knows this isn't true.

He's also at this point intentionally misgendering me.

ALSO SHIT I KEEP FUCKING FORGETTING RANGERI IS A GOD FUAD M FUCKING GIRL IM SORRY.

anyway, ranger, you know i love you, right? but here's the thing, you're a false prophet that led me astray, so I'm going to have to nail you to the cross of love, where you will live happily ever after scumreading all the scum and being right.

[Killthestory]

oh

[Killthestory]

MoI who did you jailkeep?

[Killthestory]

nope I'm the doctor, so I got attacked because I'm a PR

[Killthestory]

ranger's read on me being the doctor was absolutely correct, and him flipping mafia proves that they'd go after me knowing i would be the doctor.

moi your reads are trash, but thank you for saving my life.

[Killthestory]

no they wouldn't what the fuck?

are you stupid? No offense, but a 1v1 tradeoff is beneficial in any situation. If the real doctor were to counterclaim me now, then it'd be a worthwhile sacrifice seeing as it's still a 1v1 tradeoff, putting us in an even better situation with confirmed scum.

[Killthestory]

shut up no ones going to counterclaim me in a 1v1 tradeoff situation so im essentially confirmed town. don't be stupid.

anyway, just to piss you off, I'm not claiming my protects you nerd. someone else ask me and i might

[Killthestory]

what the fuck is wrong with you?

A SANE DOCTOR WOULD CC ME BECAUSE IT'S A 1V1 TRADEOFF AND ANY 1V1 TRADEOFF IS GOOD.

are you guys idiotic or what? 1v1 tradeoffs are the best situation in any game.

[Killthestory]

k heres the problem:

i dont have my night action PMs in my sent messages box, and I don't remember who I picked. the only ones I remember was Night 3 was imperium, and then I forgot to protect someone last night. i'm gonna PM Kelbris to see if he could send me my night action, but idk

[Killthestory]

shut the fuck up you suck at this game i dont even want to hear it.

like it's literally obvious im the doctor, even ranger saw it. no ones even going to try and counterclaim me

[Killthestory]

im not flailing you idiot.

anyway apparently i didnt actually send a n1 or n2 actions.

[Killthestory]

ye lmao

nobodies going to counterclaim me k e k

[Killthestory]

Rach bussed hard tho, maybe

[Killthestory]

nobodies going to counterclaim me ever

l m a o

[Killthestory]

Ok if the Doctor is avoiding counterclaiming because Titus is saying not to - DON'T!

It isn't productive. I can't lynch kill if he is uncountered no matter how much of a VI he is.

hey hey man, don't blame me for your trash reads

titus is also scum btw

[Killthestory]

why do you people insist I troll? don't belittle my playstyle please, it's starting to get annoying.

[Killthestory]

thank you.

that's why I actually play the way I do

[Killthestory]

fondle memos

[Killthestory]

greetings traveler

[Killthestory]

now I'm conf town l m a o

[Killthestory]

i dont know how i feel about an ollie wagon

[Killthestory]

I mean, weren't you the player who wrote an essay about how playing aggressive is the only way to play and how you were a loose aggressive player? What are you doing right now? How are you playing aggressively right now? This is the point of the game where you step up and do some shit so that this is a game that actually stands out in your memory; if you continue doing nothing, then this will be the game that you don't really remember because other players carried you to victory or other players carried you to a loss; where you were a nonentity. If you see town getting endgamed, you won't feel a thing because you didn't put anything on the line to help us win or lose. But if you start fighting and pushing now, this can actually be a game that you looked back and fondly remember as the game where you suddenly found and lynched the scum in LyLo or where you were lolling about the entire game until you turned it on and wrecked the fuck out of the game as a result.

idk i could

i kinda feel it rn, but i dont really have the motivation to try

[Killthestory]

i personally dont care if we lose or win, i just play.

but anyways, give me a rap song and if it motivations me enough then maybe.

[Killthestory]

i personally dont care if we lose or win, i just play.

but anyways, give me a rap song and if it motivations me enough then maybe.

You want just one song or a playlist?

I'm feeling you're a hype kind of guy, but I don't know whether to go old school or new school or happy or violent or what.

whatever you want

[Killthestory]

I'm feeling this beat.

Hold up I'm gonna have to stop this real quick because I'm busy, but I'll be back.

[Killthestory]

{Ollie, Killthestory, OceanWind}
{MagnaofIllusion}
{Bellaphant, Lowell}
{Imperium}
{KTthecreeper, SnarkySnowman}

One.

already with the motherfucking high ass Ollie read, lmao, i heard someone say Ranger never bussed. well, let's see, what Ollie did was nothing top town worthy, so ye what is this readlist kek.

{Ollie, Killthestory, OceanWind}
{MagnaofIllusion, Lowell}
{Bellaphant, acryon}
{Imperium}
{Nosferatu}
{Xisiquomelir, SnarkySnowman}

Two.

still?

Imperium's progression on SnarkySnowman's slot has been fairly bad this whole time, but 32 is really what tells the story there.

{Ollie, Killthestory, OceanWind, acryon, RadiantCowbells}
{MagnaofIllusion, Lowell, Bellaphant}
{Nosferatu, Xisiquomelir}
{Imperium, SnarkySnowman}

what is this ollie keep up shit? he definitely did not turn top town at this time l ma a o o oa

{Ollie, Killthestory, OceanWind, acryon, RadiantCowbells}
{MagnaofIllusion, Xisiqomelir, Bellaphant}
{Nosferatu}
{Lowell}
{Imperium, SnarkySnowman}

And there you have it.

Imperium is conf town from all these readslist. js

You said in your Post 1280 that his posts have shown a town alignment. How?

On this page was meant as a demonstration. I showed you Ollie's posts on this page

alone

and why those made him look town. I could make that same level of analysis for literally

any

page Ollie posts on (other than a contentless prod-dodge). You asked me what Ollie has done to continue to be town. I've given examples, from this page, but they can be from any page. Ollie's posting continues to look town. This page, any page. That was my point. You're asking me why Ollie's town. I've got a better question: why

isn't

he town?

Same question for RadiantCowbells, too.

But why take that tone? Far too defensive.

What defensive tone? There is none. Simply a blunt statement. It was the antithesis of a defensive tone. I flat-out say if you have a problem with my predecessors, to vote me. I'm not defending their play because I'm not them.

the hell, ranger isn't responding back like i'd expect him to if it were TvS.

lmao Ollie is questioning him hella hard, right? But then you got Ranger passive as fuck, "That's quite alright! I respect your thought process completely, and you are top town for being so insistent I'm scum!" the fuk?

Is there reasoning beyond just the defense of Snarky?

Well given that makes up a significant majority of their iso?

Not particularly. There's little stuff here and there. How they seem to say they support lynching SnarkySnowman today but are incredibly noncommittal about it, their interactions with others defending themselves from it, but it all ties back to that basic interaction.

Your examples with Ollie aren't compelling in the least.

They aren't meant to be. You asked me why Ollie was continuing to be town. I gave contemporary posting as examples to show it. Those are things that continue to uphold the already-existing townread. The townread has existed the whole game. Ollie's posting had been even stronger back then with his early posts. I loved the RVS in 7: it was good-natured fun. 20 continued, with lighthearted banter. I liked the semi-joke yet still serious nature of 22, and when he was asked for a fully serious answer, he immediately gave one in 24. His next post, 25, followed through on this. Note also that at the time, I was seeing KTthecreeper's iso as bad, so Ollie was seeing the same thing at the same time.

This was enough to propel him

miles

ahead of everyone. In the following Nosferatu-Ollie debate, I'd side with Ollie in a heartbeat because Ollie dominated that conversation. (I happen to think it was town-town, but were I to choose one player to be scum in there, it would be Nosferatu.) Posts after the RVS continue this townread. Pick a spot, any spot, in Ollie's iso. I can name at least one post in that area I like, and if I'm not lazy I might even be able to describe why.

LOL ALL OF THESE REASONS FOR TOWNREADING OLLIE ARE SO BAD IT HURTS

Also, I just read the Ollie case. It is, quite literally,

If you were that confident in your read, I'd expect a stronger presence in the game, more engagement with people about Lowell, asking for our reads on Lowell, asking people for votes. You haven't done any of that.

This.

One line.

One line, that's it, in a post that otherwise gives all the reasons why Ollie should be a townread. And it's something that is obviously not alignment indicative. Many people this game are not putting forth a stronger presence in the game. Too many for them to be the scumteam. Do you know how many people you can apply that statement to? The acryon slot (admittedly getting replaced), the Bellaphant slot (admittedly getting replaced), Imperium, Killthestory (especially until recently), Lowell, you could argue Nosferatu, and SnarkySnowman most definitely fits in that category.

Ollie is not remarkable in that regard.

So if that's why Ollie's scum to you. Explain why all the others I just listed aren't.

OLLIE IS DEFINITELY NOT WORTHY OF BEING TOP TOWN, L M A O

AISHDUAISHDUAS

YOU WANT TO SEE MY GIRL?

IT'S A BONFIRE, TURN THE LIGHTS OUT, I'M BURNING EVERYTHING YOU MOTHERFUCKERS TALK ABOUT

It was a bit overkill and read very fake to be like, 1, 2, 3, 7, some with minimal minutes between them.

Ollie being ignorant on a first game is believable.

This is not. Tammy and Nacho both, 100%, absolutely

know

that I display this tendency in games. Of course, ongoing is ongoing, so let's use recently completed games.

Example one. Town.
Example two. Scum.
Example three. Serial killer.
Example four. Town.
Example five. Town.
Example six. Scum.
Subverted: example seven. Scum...where I did

not

do this. I put in five minutes worth of effort to fake it, then cruised the rest of the game.
Example eight. Town.

I think we can thoroughly establish this is a null tell for me.

Imperium saying otherwise when they, 100%, absolutely KNOW this is the case,

that

makes them scum.

PUT MY SOUL ON THE TRACK

says essentially that he can exclude Ollie from something he was scumreading Imperium for. k

BLACK AND WHITE MUSIC, THAT'S A MIXTAPE

You didn't notice it or you didn't care for it?

What makes these mutually exclusive? I'm townreading you hard. I'm scumreading Lowell. I didn't really notice your Lowell read, but since you've brought it to my attention, it hasn't done anything because nothing changes. I still townread you hard; I still scumread Lowell.

That seems legit but if you were really reading the game properly while you were making these lists then how did you miss this...

I wasn't up to that point in the game yet. That simple. Xisiqomelir was listed on the playerlist. He was listed as alive. I knew which slot he was in, because that was also listed on the playerlist. I did not know he was dead, because that was not listed. I brought up his death once I reached that point in the game.

I think Virtue is scum with SS based on his catchup. That leaves 1 more?

Stop stealing my scumreads before I can make them!

It's Lowell for the third, by the way.

You're not bothered by anything?

^Another reason SnarkySnowman is a scumread of mine. This is

not

the stance he takes on me when he is town. When he is town, he is always cautious of me. Always. 100%. After I snowed him in Machina, he has always been cautious of me.

motherfucker this shit is so fishy

MARTIN HAD A DREAM
KENDRICK HAD A DREAM

[Killthestory]

K I don't even need to fucking read more, Oliy is clearly scum.

Ranger is the type of motherfucker to hard defend his scum buds, I've seen it in action. His reads are good, he'll supply bomb ass reads that are right to throw people off. He gives off good ass reads, but his most important reads are wrong. He always pushes the wrongest reads as scum, but the rest of them are right.

BODYCAST ON THE STRETCHER

that's what he did with Ollie. He was pushing for a motherfuckin mislynch and keeping Ollie off the table, and she would have instant fucking won my dude. Holy fuck, I should have seen it, but she fucking buddied Ollie so god damn hard while Ollie tried to distance. Failed, weak attempts against Ranger because he never pushed him when it mattered and his case was absolute A S S .

I PRAY MY DICK GET BIG AS THE EIFFEL TOWER

Tl;dr Ranger buddied hella with Ollie, time to ISO him

[Killthestory]

VOTE: jmo16mla

Panicking already, look at his face.

LOOK AT THIS SHIT, ALREADY SETTING UP HIS MISLYNCH AYYYYY

VOTE: KTthecreeper

try hard scum

another mislynch lets go

F#ckin vampires, always out to taste my sweet townie blood.

Nosferatu what's your take on what's happened so far?

foprced

no, I'm saying that your question did not specifically ask for me to explain my vote and therefore I didn't explain it. It is completely normal for me to put a vote down and not explain it until prompted. In Game Shop Mafia, I put a vote down on davesaz and didn't explain it until I was asked much much later. If you want something from me, ask me directly and don't bullshit me with evidently purposefully vague questions in hope that I would answer what you want me to.

You're saying my question was too vague now. You're seriously telling me that you thought the answer I was looking for was what you thought had happened minus the thing that had attracted your attention the most?

forced

Magna is going to be annoying as hell, but, unfortunately, is town.

why?

KT is town.

why?

Imp, you're town.

why?

DOUBTING ALL THESE CORRECT READS WHOA DUDE CALM DOWN

acryon advocated a KainTepes policy lynch & has done nothing else.

ANTOER SETUP MISLYNCH BOISM, BUT THIS TIME HES ALSO HARD DEFENDING HIS SCUMBUD AYYYYYYYYYY

Quick I need more votes on me, or I'll be scumread late game for not being pressured enough!

Ocean if you don't vote for me I'm going to death tunnel you

Just vote me for fucks sakes

God fucking dammit no one's voting me

ay you got a problem here?

When I tell people "thanks" for naked voted its scum.

and I love how "my existence hurts the town" when I literately posted 4 times. The only way you could have a chance of reading someone in 4 post is either if they post a screen shot of their role PM or if you have played 10+ games with them.

Now I'm going to reread the game cringe a little and give my thought on this game.

I'm going to laugh when people say this post is "OMG OBV SCUM LYNCH NOW" I'm just trying to set the record straight that I was experimenting a little so if you find I'm scum with this post then by all means lynch me I could not care less. I mean if I react negative to a vote its scum, if I react positive its scum, if I don't react at all its scum, I don't know anymore.

LOOK AT THIS SHTI

MY D A DOUBLE D G

UNVOTE: KTthecreeper

I'll judge you on your scum hunting, let's see what you've got.

A
YAY
AY

Subject to massive change & IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER, so don't go getting smug Magna etc..

Town Leans

MagnaofIllusion

- pushing people hard, asking the right questions, seems healthily suspicious of every player in the game, which I like.

KTthecreeper

- early wagon puts me off when I mesh that with the explanation for the early vote & the accounts of early KT wagons being common.

OceanWind

- had alot of the same questions for Nos as me & articulated some good stuff that I couldn't, so I don't see that as riding on my coat tails.

ChurchofMercy

- coulda tried to stick the knife in when I was coming under fire, but said they supported me with no messing about. Wants killthestory to scum hunt, join the club.

Null

Acryon

- Bad start but I was right to give him a chance to do something. That something was a great point about Nosferatu. He's pretty much scum reading my town leans list, but hey great point.

jmo

- liked that he had a problem with Lowell's early town read but not much else to go on

Killthestory

- no content to read

Lowell

- his play has been mostly gathering allies, which I don't read either way

Imperium

- unsure, not just gonna scum read him for that nonsense about Nosferatu's point being the best yet or whatever but he's an inbetweener atm.

Scum Leans

Bellaphant

- Hedging her bets in the little she's posted.

Nosferatu

- How long have you got? I'm not convinced yet though. I'm not fucking Lowell am I.

Who have I missed off that list? Can't work out who is playing under a different name.

I can see alot of switching around so no one get pissy me me or I'll cut u.

ALL THE IMPORTANT SCUMREADS A RE

DE A RA D

[Killthestory]

Time to check out this dudes later ISO, gonna look at a coumple post because i dont fucking care

[Killthestory]

if you can recall i had my vote on Jim for the better part of Day 2

wait wtf, you've been null/town on that slot all along, & you were town reading Jim?

DONT YOU TRY AND PUSH A MISLYNCH ON MY BDUEDNUY DBOI

My reads look something like this atm...

Killthestory, OceanWind, MagnaofIllusion, Imperium
RadiantCowbells
Nosferatu, Massive
Virtue
Lowell, Ranger

Although RC & Virtue are where they are from my Severa (who might as well have been a different player) & Bella reads, harder to get a read on their 'replacements'. Nos I'm unsure about atm. Ranger's responses have been good lately but the Snarky scum read is convenient & I'd like to see how I read Lowell's replacement so my vote stays.

AY LOOK A MISLYNCH, ANOTHER MOOTHERFOOKIN MISLYNCH, RANGER WHOS HES HARD DISTANCING BC HES UNDER PRESSURE, NOS WHOS NULL (weird) AND THEN EZ TOWNEREADS WHAT

UNVOTE:

Why did you vote Ranger while still having questions you wanted to resolve?

My vote doesn't end the day so what on earth are you going on about?

yeah his vote doesnt end day get on his fucking level

inb4 imperium/ollie/rach scumteam sweep

Was this a serious comment? If so why did you think that?

After ISOing you I get the impression you were town reading Ranger until the hammer & yesterday. Is that true?

this coulda been communication with a scum team member...

If you're not getting anything out of this, you should probably stop doing that and try something else.

WHY WONT YOU DEFEND YOURSELF

COMMUNICATION

DEFEND YOURSELF SCUM DEFEND YOURSELF

[Killthestory]

tl;dr ollie is town

[Killthestory]

the hell is town rn?

[Killthestory]

yo hold up tell me what you see, is it money or its me

anyway, time to see whos alive

[Killthestory]

vote count 5.02

Titus (0): none
MagnaofIllusion (0): none
Imperium (0): none
Killthestory (1): MagnaofIllusion
Nosferatu (0): none
RachMarie (0): none
Ollie (0): none
No Lynch (0): none
not voting: Titus, Imperium, Killthestory, Nosferatu, RachMarie, Ollie
with 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch
day 5 has begun, it will end in (expired on 2016-06-20 16:00:00)

k so we got these motherfuckers alive, aight.

alright, so ranger scum. ez.

imperium, me, rach, moi, town. ez.

ollie conf town, ez

nos titus scum, ez?

[Killthestory]

time to ISO, let's go

[Killthestory]

ayy titus

had literally no idea it was you

So the comments about VCA needing a scumslip were a coincidence?

motherfuckas listen

NOS AND TITUS AINT ALIGNED TOGETHER BECAUSE I KNOW TITUS WOULDNT HIT SOMEONE WHOS SAME ALIGNMENT LIKE THIS FOR OUT OF GAME REASONING

i call the shots
call the cops

I TOLD THAT BITCH LIKE NA HW AY

That Micro game where you flaked as scum really supports that position too ...

Oh, right, now that you bring it up...does this Killthestory feel like the same Killthestory-as-Kanbei from that game?

It doesn't to me.

Here we go. It was KTS not Magna, Ranger was reconsidering. I think I misspoke there. It was Magna making the point though.

ranger wasunt na h a rteconsidering lam oa

got so many shades they thought i had a lazy eye

I didn't specify town reads. I just asked you to explain your reads. It doesn't seem like there's anything behind your townreads other than "they just seem like town" which doesn't make any sense to me because there has to be a reason why their posts made you feel that way.

I don't really buy into "tonal reads" but if you want to want to elaborate on your non-town reads, I'd like to hear them.

when I get a proper scum read I'll make sure to consult you.
UNVOTE:

So at this point you have no reads?

hittin' him hard, not same alignment

I'M A SPAZ ON YO ASS LIKE ONMEOAN

Ranger, Talk to me. Why haven't you asked me shit? I am going on vla soon. Need to get those questions in.

huh

Yeah I am not believing Masq is that dumb. It does look like a rolefish. I am only hesitating because I don't want to rush things.

shit this be like ," i want ta mislynch but im a hesitate to make it look like im considering it."

*pokes you to my question* I need guidance

wait for it

VOTE: Masq

You got me there. The rolefish really hit the desperation note but it didn't seem like desperate town. More like nightkill hunting.

P.S. Trolling one liners are hard as fuck for me to read KTS.

@Imperium, I submitted a VLA for us too.

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[Killthestory]

yo what happene to my shit ay what?

[Killthestory]

much better

[Killthestory]

nos felt like town with his dumbie headedness so im leaving him as town

gonna see what ranger did to titus and shit

[Killthestory]

smokin on the finest dope ayayayaa

thats the spirit

Shoddy bad ass hell, shoddy want to kiss me, but i know she sukcing dik

[Killthestory]

What do you think of our exchange on OceanWind/Rach? What do you think about Ollie?

Well it comes down at least partially to your analysis versus MagnaofIllusions, and bluntly...your analysis is done independently of my alignment, whereas MagnaofIllusion's relies heavily on a premise which is inherently false. So given that? I'd buy OceanWind/RachMarie as town and Ollie as scum.

I mostly asked about Killthestory and Titus though, because regardless of which in {RachMarie, Ollie} is scum, both Titus and Killthestory are scum, and thus, safer lynches to make.

OH SHIT BUT RANGER WAS PUSHING A TITUS LYNCH WHAT.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN

AND I THINK THAT BITCH FROM CANADA, I THINK SHE FROM THE SITH

I'd be happier if you didn't do this; I'm currently townreading both Nosferatu and RachMarie (who are in your top 2), and Ranger's responses to me haven't been at all what I expected if she was scum

Nosferatu as town is a given, but if you think I could be town and think Rach is town, what's your guess for a scumteam? {Titus, Ollie, Killthestory}?
OPH SHIT BUT RANGER NEVER BUSSES SO T I T US IS TOWN

LETS LOOK AT HIS READS ON NOS
At this point it's pretty much a given Titus and Killthestory have to be scum since I haven't been hammered. The only question I would have is on the third. How sure are you that RachMarie is town? Enough to risk the game on?

[Killthestory]

BREAKING NEWS, RANGER PUSHED TITUS

BREAKING NEWS

[Killthestory]

[Killthestory]

Serious question I want to ask to MagnaofIllusion and Imperium.
How receptive are you to the idea of lynching Killthestory today?
How receptive are you to the idea of lynching Titus today?

L O O K A T IT

@Ranger, Why did you suddenly clear Nos?

Nothing sudden about it. Nosferatu has been one of my strongest townreads since half-way through D2.

OH THERE IT IS

NOS IS CONF SUCM CUM CUMCSCUM HES SCUM

[Killthestory]

so nos and ollie are town and titus and me are scum btw

[Killthestory]

This is the part where, if I was scum, I'd self-hammer to just end the day.
I'm not.
VOTE: Killthestory.

What do you think of our exchange on OceanWind/Rach? What do you think about Ollie?

Well it comes down at least partially to your analysis versus MagnaofIllusions, and bluntly...your analysis is done independently of my alignment, whereas MagnaofIllusion's relies heavily on a premise which is inherently false. So given that? I'd buy OceanWind/RachMarie as town and Ollie as scum.

I mostly asked about Killthestory and Titus though, because regardless of which in {RachMarie, Ollie} is scum, both Titus and Killthestory are scum, and thus, safer lynches to make.

RANGER'S READS TURNED US TO A MISLYNCH, SO HE MUST BE SCUM. HIS READS ARE WRONG, AND HIS READS ARE NEVER WRONG, SO HE MUST BE SCUM.

^Btw, Killthestory already knows this isn't true.

He's also at this point intentionally misgendering me.

Serious question I want to ask to MagnaofIllusion and Imperium.
How receptive are you to the idea of lynching Killthestory today?
How receptive are you to the idea of lynching Titus today?

I'd be happier if you didn't do this; I'm currently townreading both Nosferatu and RachMarie (who are in your top 2), and Ranger's responses to me haven't been at all what I expected if she was scum

Nosferatu as town is a given, but if you think I could be town and think Rach is town, what's your guess for a scumteam? {Titus, Ollie, Killthestory}?

At this point it's pretty much a given Titus and Killthestory have to be scum since I haven't been hammered. The only question I would have is on the third. How sure are you that RachMarie is town? Enough to risk the game on?

Imperium haven't posted in over 4 days, were they on V/LA or what?

I'm pretty sure Tammy is going through some sort of difficulty, and also reasonably certain Nacho's had some restriction this whole game.

You clearly aren’t.

RadiantCowbell's combined iso is 154 very long posts. I'm sure I could find something if I read every one in detail, but I don't have that amount of willpower. massive has 16 posts. All I see is a willingness to work with me, willingness to work with RachMarie's slot, lack of desire to lynch me, suspicion on Titus, maybe some suspicion on you, possible suspicion on Killthestory, and townreading Imperium, nothing conclusive. He wasn't obviously town, I don't see any posts that could be interpreted as PR crumbs (though to be fair I'd also need to check his predecessor there), if massive has a reputation I'm unaware of it, so if it's anything, it'd be {accurate reads, status quo, not likely protect}. That's the best I've got.

For Xisi, I've isoed him many times. The only things I see are a townread on Imperium and a scumread on Tituslot, maybe one on Killthestory. He wasn't obviously town, I don't see how he could be seen as a PR (though I'd again need to check his predecessor to be sure), if Xisiqomelir has a reputation I'm unaware of it, there's not much there in regards to relevant reads, so all I've got there is {status quo, not likely protect}.

I've been going over Xisi's since D3, maybe even late D2. Every time, trying to take something from it, every time, finding nothing definitive. Feel free to iso the dead yourself and tell me what I missed.

Probably about time for you to make one of your patented “Goodbye messages to your partners” I’ve seen before.

Literally never done this in any completed game. Best not to talk about that further, though you should probably try reading games instead of skimming them.

[Killthestory]

RANGER TRIED TO MISLYNCH TITUS THEY'RE TOWN IT'S OLLIE AND NOS CONF

[Killthestory]

VOTE: Ollie

[Killthestory]

if pirus and crips all got along, they prolly gun me down by the end of the song
sing like the whole city go against me
every time i'm in the street i hear

YAK YAK YAK YAK

Brace yourself I'm bout' to take you on a trip down memory lane
This is not a song about moving crack or sling cocaine

For the bread and butter I leave motherfuckers in the gutter

[Killthestory]

RANGER TRIED TO MISLYNCH TITUS THEY'RE TOWN IT'S OLLIE AND NOS CONF

Ranger tried to mislynch you.

ye and im town, so that makes titus town as well

[Killthestory]

ayyyyyy

whos the head of this hydra rn, they're my homie slices, thinking twice before the world is mine

[Killthestory]

mayb, mayb

but Nos was their top townread for absolutely no fucking reason?

and Nos's confusion feels fake as fuck

[Killthestory]

wouldn't you consider that cutting ties and bussing?

anyway, I lost motivation again, can't do longer posts

[Killthestory]

wouldn't you consider that cutting ties and bussing?

anyway, I lost motivation again, can't do longer posts

not really, cutting ties is more when the day begins titus and ollie going "yeah ranger is so confirmed scum today" versus nosferatu telling magna that he's not his real dad and still not even calling ranger scum

lets just lynch Ollie and then focus on shit when I don't feel so lazy

[Killthestory]

i was hoping more people would push me so i could counterclaim when needed and push the scummiest of those pushing my lynch. then look for associations.

still, that was fun.

[Killthestory]

i was hoping more people would push me so i could counterclaim when needed and push the scummiest of those pushing my lynch. then look for associations.

still, that was fun.

i enjoyed the hype reading session quite a bit

lmao that was afun

[Killthestory]

Music dictates my thoughts

[Killthestory]

lol

[Killthestory]

i'm the worst PR ever LMAO.

[Killthestory]

Like I honestly am so sorry that I didn't send in those actions I could have potentially saved a couple people, like holy shit, I suck lmao.

Otherwise, my reads were pretty fantastic except for the Nos/Titus thing.

[Killthestory]

My playstyle keeps me alive. I never have to worry about not living too far, because while my reads are mostly correct, scum don't see me as much a threat most of the time. I love this about my current playstyle, but I'm gonna have to change it soon. Probably gonna get NKed a lot sooner which'll suck a lot, but you know, it is what it is.

However, yeah, I sent a single night action in holy fuck L M A O